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Beezy

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Re: Super Street Fighter IV
« Reply #600 on: April 29, 2010, 10:58:20 AM »
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« Reply #601 on: April 29, 2010, 01:09:36 PM »
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Raban

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« Reply #602 on: April 29, 2010, 05:11:16 PM »
Hit Rank C, I'm on cloud nine mo'fukka!

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« Reply #603 on: April 29, 2010, 05:35:21 PM »
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« Reply #604 on: April 29, 2010, 08:01:50 PM »
I am doing much better than expected with Juri.  She may end up becoming my main and replacing Chun-Li!   :o

Satisfying shit:

-Using Juri's counter dash against Guile's SONIC BOOMS.  I can't believe that works.   :lol
-Destroying a jumping-in Boxer with Chun's Ultra II.
-Completely shutting down a T. Hawk and a Hakan with a flurry of projectiles from Juri.  She can do them fast enough that it feels like you can throw two almost at the same time...plus you can store one projectile.  Crazy.
-Doing the same thing to a Blanka player.  He can't do his low cowering thing with her lk projectile.
-Beating everyone in several rooms and getting winstreaks using new characters I have no idea how to fully use yet.  Beginners luck I am sure, but still fun!
-Making the host of a room rage quit.  Seems like it's rare among Japanese players, but me and this other guy kept destroying this Rose player with several thousand BP. He finally quit mid-match.  Glad to see that the rooms continue even if the host leaves!

Is it possible to change the country of an ID after it's created?

Not sure, but it's PSN, so just make a new account specifically for some Saudi SSF4!   :)

On 360, I am impressed with the connections.  It seems to have been improved...I am playing people from the States with no real noticeable lag, at least on my end.
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Beezy

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Re: Super Street Fighter IV
« Reply #605 on: April 29, 2010, 09:48:30 PM »
I love Makoto. I really do. But her shitty ass priority is pissing me the fuck off. Hayate is her main attack and just about everything beats it. EVERYTHING! That plus the fact that fukiage keeps coming out when I try to do hayate or her ultra has lost way too many matches for me. Oh, and let's not forget that she has no reliable anti-airs, only has one armor breaking attack and it's slow ass hell. SMH

I'm still not dropping her though. I was just as annoyed with Bison when I first used him even though he had more to work with.

iconoclast

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« Reply #606 on: April 29, 2010, 11:24:56 PM »
FINALLY cleared Ibuki's 24th trial. Now Viper's 22nd trial (j.HK, st.LK, st.LP, super jump cancel ultra) should be the last wall for me. It took me forever to clear that in vanilla SF4, but I think I remember the combo being a little different...

At any rate, I'm really liking all of the new characters, except Adon and Hakan. Cody, Dudley, Guy, Juri, Ibuki, Deejay, T.Hawk, and even Makoto all seem very solid.
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Re: Super Street Fighter IV
« Reply #607 on: April 29, 2010, 11:27:22 PM »
Didn't buy it yet (probably this weekend) but my friend brought it over. I was just playing random vs random, Juri is kinda fun but I was doing surprisingly decent with Guy (aside from Cammy, my original SF4 main). Didn't really understand how to use Hakan effectively yet, and the random select kept on giving me Abel  :-\
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Bebpo

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Re: Super Street Fighter IV
« Reply #608 on: April 29, 2010, 11:30:46 PM »
I love Makoto. I really do. But her shitty ass priority is pissing me the fuck off. Hayate is her main attack and just about everything beats it. EVERYTHING! That plus the fact that fukiage keeps coming out when I try to do hayate or her ultra has lost way too many matches for me. Oh, and let's not forget that she has no reliable anti-airs, only has one armor breaking attack and it's slow ass hell. SMH

I'm still not dropping her though. I was just as annoyed with Bison when I first used him even though he had more to work with.

I lost every match I tried playing as Makoto in.  I think she's always been a cool character but she is way too technical/gimped in SSFIV for me.  If you want to win as Makoto you gotta be fucking GOOD.  She is like the Akira of SSFIV.

otoh, Ibuki seems really good in SSFIV.  I can see why they took out her slide under fireballs ability.  If she had that she'd be the best character in the game bar none.  I think her only weakness is not being able to go under fireballs and that all her moves are pretty low damage so you need to connect a lot without getting hit much.  But her moves are so useful in this game.

Dudley is my main in SSFIV and I like a lot of his changes.  Being able to combo the jab DP into another DP, Ex DP, or even Supers/Ultras is very nice.  Plus dashing under fireballs is always a plus.

I really like Hakan.  I love playing as big ugly high damage characters if they are not ridiculously slow (aka, why I don't play Tager in Blazblu).  Zangief has been my main since SF2.  Hakan has the fun of Zangief with crazy movement because of the sliding.  Very fun.  Might become my main or 2nd.

Didn't play as Juri but my friend used her a bunch and she seems really strong.  Her attacks are fast and have a huge hit radius.  Not gonna use her though because her design annoys me.  

Don Flamenco

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« Reply #609 on: April 29, 2010, 11:32:40 PM »
Hayate not having armor break properties EVEN A FUCKING EX HAYATE is the biggest load of shit in the world.  srsly guyz.  it fucks me up every time because it seems like such an obvious armor break move, but nooooo

iconoclast

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« Reply #610 on: April 29, 2010, 11:54:24 PM »
I lost every match I tried playing as Makoto in.  I think she's always been a cool character but she is way too technical/gimped in SSFIV for me.  If you want to win as Makoto you gotta be fucking GOOD.  She is like the Akira of SSFIV.

Nah, that's Viper. Hammer/knuckle feints, super jump cancels, low health, complex combos, etc. You really have to work for your wins, but if you are good she is a beast. You just have to be a high level player to be effective with her.

Makoto is definitely not as good as she was in Third Strike, that's for sure. But she still seems pretty decent to me.
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Beezy

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« Reply #611 on: April 30, 2010, 01:51:48 AM »
Hayate not having armor break properties EVEN A FUCKING EX HAYATE is the biggest load of shit in the world.  srsly guyz.  it fucks me up every time because it seems like such an obvious armor break move, but nooooo
Same here. I've eaten so many focus attacks, supers and ultras when doing EX Hayate. It hurts so bad when you see her arm already going through an enemy's body when they start their ultra, but you don't connect at all. Hayate's hitbox is fuckin distinguished mentally-challenged. I think it starts at her training bra.

Smooth Groove

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« Reply #612 on: April 30, 2010, 10:29:00 AM »
Fry's is giving away SSF4 if you buy a TE stick.  I'm sorely tempted.

Also, Madcatz pads are discounted to $29.99.

Don Flamenco

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Re: Super Street Fighter IV
« Reply #613 on: April 30, 2010, 01:38:51 PM »
Fry's is giving away SSF4 if you buy a TE stick.  I'm sorely tempted.

Also, Madcatz pads are discounted to $29.99.

wow, killer deal on both of those.  I might need a new pad soon...had mine since weeks before the SF4 launch and it's getting kinda mushy.

Smooth Groove

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« Reply #614 on: April 30, 2010, 01:59:18 PM »
I called the store and supposedly the bundle sticks are the more expensive S versions.  SSF4 is also $5 off by itself. 

Don Flamenco

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« Reply #615 on: April 30, 2010, 05:46:21 PM »
I'm loving the Arcadia and Level-Up matches on youtube.  I've never been into spectator sports, but I've been really into these narrated tournament matches lately.

Raban

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« Reply #616 on: April 30, 2010, 05:49:23 PM »
I'm loving the Arcadia and Level-Up matches on youtube.  I've never been into spectator sports, but I've been really into these narrated tournament matches lately.

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Don Flamenco

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« Reply #617 on: April 30, 2010, 05:59:58 PM »
I like Chris Hu (I think that's who it is)- "I RESPECK THAT!" :lol  dude's awesome.

and whoever keeps calling it Super Butterfinger 4.  Same guy who said "GIMME YO LUNCHABLES!" at Bison's ultra in one of the arcadia 14 final vids.

Beezy

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« Reply #618 on: April 30, 2010, 07:08:47 PM »
I like Chris Hu (I think that's who it is)- "I RESPECK THAT!" :lol  dude's awesome.

and whoever keeps calling it Super Butterfinger 4.  Same guy who said "GIMME YO LUNCHABLES!" at Bison's ultra in one of the arcadia 14 final vids.
:lol

Don Flamenco

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« Reply #619 on: April 30, 2010, 07:13:35 PM »
also, he named the move Psycho C-section :lol

Akala

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Re: Super Street Fighter IV
« Reply #620 on: April 30, 2010, 08:42:35 PM »
finally got to jump online for a bit. fun!

I've never been super great, but had a few matches where I dominated, and it felt good. Picked random the whole time, got to flail a bit with the new characters. After 30 mins or so, I started getting e. honda. twice in a row, then every other time. less fun.

will get on more tomorrow.

Beezy

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« Reply #621 on: April 30, 2010, 09:28:12 PM »
I played drohne earlier and he beat the shit out of me, especially with his Guile. He was having connection problems though and stopped playing after like 4 matches.

Btw, day 3 with Makoto was less frustrating. I learned that her 2nd ultra shuts down anyone who likes to jump around a lot.
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Raban

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« Reply #622 on: April 30, 2010, 10:43:17 PM »
I like Chris Hu (I think that's who it is)- "I RESPECK THAT!" :lol  dude's awesome.

and whoever keeps calling it Super Butterfinger 4.  Same guy who said "GIMME YO LUNCHABLES!" at Bison's ultra in one of the arcadia 14 final vids.

That is Chris Hu, the one with the extremely, but hilariously crippled english. He's not a great commentator, but quite enjoyable to listen to. "Oh he went fo' da' EFF-AY-DEE-CEE into OTRA"

The other guy you're talking about is Yipes, who is by far my favorite commentator. The shit that comes outta that man's mouth makes me fall out of my chair laughing.

Seb is the dude who you almost always hear.

Occasionally Andre will pick up the mic, and he's a really solid commentator as well.

I talked to Lyte about this, I really love watching Street Fighter vids. The commentary, the clutches, everything is so awesome to watch. I can't wait to live in New York and go to BA in person.

Don Flamenco

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« Reply #623 on: April 30, 2010, 10:50:17 PM »
Watching matches is totally awesome.  I swear, it improved my game too.  Or at least made me appreciate it a hell of a lot more.  I hope uploads of match fights with commentary becomes standard with tourneys now, since they're never in my area.

Some damn good players in ranked matches tonight.  A lot more variety in characters than during the week and much much better players.

Robo

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Re: Super Street Fighter IV
« Reply #624 on: May 01, 2010, 01:53:31 AM »
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Goddamn it, Capcom, at least tell me the room is FULL rather than this vague crap.

Also, I'm online and kinda drunk if anybody wants to jump on and horse around a lil bit.
obo

The Fake Shemp

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« Reply #625 on: May 01, 2010, 02:11:41 AM »
Sorry, Beezy, that wasn't me online - that was Disposable White Guy. I'll play with you this weekend.
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Rman

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« Reply #626 on: May 01, 2010, 02:25:32 AM »
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Goddamn it, Capcom, at least tell me the room is FULL rather than this vague crap.

Also, I'm online and kinda drunk if anybody wants to jump on and horse around a lil bit.
Same. 

This is also happened when Vanilla first launched.

Raban

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« Reply #627 on: May 01, 2010, 02:29:01 AM »
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Goddamn it, Capcom, at least tell me the room is FULL rather than this vague crap.

Also, I'm online and kinda drunk if anybody wants to jump on and horse around a lil bit.

Good matches, J! Lag was killer, though. Some of those clutch matches would've SO been mine ;)

What do you think of mah skillz?

EDIT: Also I can't use punctuation in my messages because the on-screen keyboard doesn't pick up the trigger buttons on my stick, and also I can't use a second controller to type.
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Beezy

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Re: Super Street Fighter IV
« Reply #628 on: May 01, 2010, 02:51:36 AM »
Sorry, Beezy, that wasn't me online - that was Disposable White Guy. I'll play with you this weekend.
Haha, the message he sent sounded like something you would write.

Raban

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Re: Super Street Fighter IV
« Reply #629 on: May 01, 2010, 02:52:31 AM »
Oh btw kind of a nub questions, but what are people referring to when they say "this matchup is 5/5". Is there something that'll explain this for me?

Beezy

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« Reply #630 on: May 01, 2010, 02:57:16 AM »
Seems like they're saying it's an even matchup based on the two characters picked. The winner will be the player who is better skilled.

Robo

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« Reply #631 on: May 01, 2010, 03:14:01 AM »
Good matches, J! Lag was killer, though. Some of those clutch matches would've SO been mine ;)

What do you think of mah skillz?

EDIT: Also I can't use punctuation in my messages because the on-screen keyboard doesn't pick up the trigger buttons on my stick, and also I can't use a second controller to type.

Well, you're definitely better at playing underwater than I am! 
obo

iconoclast

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Re: Super Street Fighter IV
« Reply #632 on: May 01, 2010, 03:26:35 AM »
Finally finished all the trials in challenge mode. Got stuck on Viper's challenges for like 2 hours but I finally did them. Fuck that ho.

Oh btw kind of a nub questions, but what are people referring to when they say "this matchup is 5/5". Is there something that'll explain this for me?

Like Beezy said, it's just the numbers for that character matchup. For example, between two evenly skilled players, Seth would beat Zangief 8 times out of 10.

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Raban

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« Reply #633 on: May 01, 2010, 03:39:16 AM »
Finally finished all the trials in challenge mode. Got stuck on Viper's challenges for like 2 hours but I finally did them. Fuck that ho.

Oh btw kind of a nub questions, but what are people referring to when they say "this matchup is 5/5". Is there something that'll explain this for me?

Like Beezy said, it's just the numbers for that character matchup. For example, between two evenly skilled players, Seth would beat Zangief 8 times out of 10.



Oh alright. I just never got the numbers. Thanks.

Beezy

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Re: Super Street Fighter IV
« Reply #634 on: May 01, 2010, 03:47:25 AM »
Like Beezy said, it's just the numbers for that character matchup. For example, between two evenly skilled players, Seth would beat Zangief 8 times out of 10.
And this is why you should have to name the character (or two) that you plan to use at tourneys. This one dick I know got pretty far in a SF4 tourney at our school last year because he was being a little counterpicking bitch. He still wasn't able to make top 3 thankfully.

Btw, I'm so happy that you can't see who your opponent is picking in SSF4 when playing online.

Raban

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Re: Super Street Fighter IV
« Reply #635 on: May 01, 2010, 03:52:45 AM »
Like Beezy said, it's just the numbers for that character matchup. For example, between two evenly skilled players, Seth would beat Zangief 8 times out of 10.
And this is why you should have to name the character (or two) that you plan to use at tourneys. This one dick I know got pretty far in a SF4 tourney at our school last year because he was being a little counterpicking bitch. He still wasn't able to make top 3 thankfully.

Btw, I'm so happy that you can't see who your opponent is picking in SSF4 when playing online.

I so agree, I love that I haven't been counter-picked once the entire time I've played online.

Robo

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« Reply #636 on: May 01, 2010, 04:31:21 AM »
I somehow managed to rack up a 40 match win streak in Ranked.  :lol
obo

iconoclast

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Re: Super Street Fighter IV
« Reply #637 on: May 01, 2010, 12:01:46 PM »
I've already put 37 hours into this. :-[ Best game this gen, easily.

Going to finally start playing some ranked matches later tonight. I've mainly been playing challenge mode and endless battle (which is awesome). The netcode seems a lot smoother as well; I've only had one laggy match so far out of 80 or so. But maybe I've just been lucky.

I've only seen one flowchart Ken too! He was on my team in Team Battle.
BiSH

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« Reply #638 on: May 02, 2010, 08:45:01 PM »
I'm considerably worse at SSF4 than regular SF4 and I don't know why.  In my head it seems like my attacks do little damage while the opponent does a lot. 

Rman

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Re: Super Street Fighter IV
« Reply #639 on: May 02, 2010, 09:01:27 PM »
Any of the PS3 people want to do an endless match?

Akala

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Re: Super Street Fighter IV
« Reply #640 on: May 02, 2010, 11:13:45 PM »
doh, just got off. people are gonna have to get some endless matches in once everyone settles in. 

I'm still in 'screwing around' mode. I like DeeJay much more than I remember liking him.

The Fake Shemp

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« Reply #641 on: May 04, 2010, 06:04:55 PM »
Beezy's M. Bison is a bitch, btw.

Wait until I get the bandages off my burns, Beezy! Just wait!
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Robo

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Re: Super Street Fighter IV
« Reply #642 on: May 04, 2010, 06:17:48 PM »
You ain't got shit to counter that PSYCHO POWER (except Guile or Chun-Li :shh)!
obo

Beezy

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Re: Super Street Fighter IV
« Reply #643 on: May 04, 2010, 08:11:07 PM »
Fuck Guile! I finally overcame that bitch ass T.Hawk today and got my 10 in a row ranked wins achievement and 2 matches later a Guile ends my winning streak. I have no idea what to do against him with Bison. He shuts down everything I attempt to do.

I have gotten better since the last game, but if you think my Bison is a bitch wait until you play RoboJ. :lol

Akala

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« Reply #644 on: May 04, 2010, 08:16:35 PM »
Guile...is my main. huahua

Beezy

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« Reply #645 on: May 04, 2010, 08:30:17 PM »
leper this filth

drohne too

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« Reply #646 on: May 04, 2010, 08:38:31 PM »
I've played RoboJ in the past. Never again.
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Re: Super Street Fighter IV
« Reply #647 on: May 04, 2010, 08:43:59 PM »
 :drudge NOOB ALERT :drudge

Okay I always meant to pick up SFIV normal but never got round to it, and now Super is out.

Just wanted to ask you pros, what is the learning curve like? How much practice will I need to hold my own online? 10 hours or so of playing single player? Im not terrible at games but Im not great either.

I really want to get this game beacuse it looks awesome.
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« Reply #648 on: May 04, 2010, 08:54:28 PM »
You will never be as good as the best guys here. Ever. But it's still fun.
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« Reply #649 on: May 04, 2010, 08:58:39 PM »
haha, yeah I know Im never going to be as good as the EB Elite, of course. But yeah I just wanted to get into a solid fighter for a bit. I'd be happy with a 1:4 win ratio!
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Beezy

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« Reply #650 on: May 04, 2010, 09:09:38 PM »
Single player will help you learn a character's basics, but it will never prepare you for fighting actual people.

Oh wait, you said pros. *shuts mouth*

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« Reply #651 on: May 04, 2010, 09:17:28 PM »
Beezy just beat me, because he is a bitch.

There is no way that M. Bison should be able to grab people behind him!
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Beezy

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Re: Super Street Fighter IV
« Reply #652 on: May 04, 2010, 09:29:48 PM »
Accept your abortion without complaints!

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Re: Super Street Fighter IV
« Reply #653 on: May 04, 2010, 09:42:54 PM »
I am gonna make you guys fear Juri.  Forget Bison!
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Beezy

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Re: Super Street Fighter IV
« Reply #654 on: May 04, 2010, 09:49:22 PM »
That whore is not a problem.

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« Reply #655 on: May 04, 2010, 10:01:40 PM »
I am gonna make you guys fear Juri.  Forget Bison!

I'm sick of Juri
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« Reply #656 on: May 04, 2010, 10:18:41 PM »
Fun matches, Beezy. It was nice to win a handful for once. I nursed a two win streak at one point! :lol
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Beezy

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« Reply #657 on: May 04, 2010, 10:43:20 PM »
I'm still mad about my last loss. :lol

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Re: Super Street Fighter IV
« Reply #658 on: May 04, 2010, 10:48:46 PM »
I'm still mad about my last loss. :lol

Take consolation in the fact that you'd still pwn Wilco in a real street fight. 

Robo

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Re: Super Street Fighter IV
« Reply #659 on: May 04, 2010, 11:00:03 PM »
Fuck Guile! I finally overcame that bitch ass T.Hawk today and got my 10 in a row ranked wins achievement and 2 matches later a Guile ends my winning streak. I have no idea what to do against him with Bison. He shuts down everything I attempt to do.

It used to be that you could sort of recklessly charge his ass, taking a few shots here and there, get a knockdown and push the match-up back into your favor.  He's got nothing to deal with meaty j.mk cross-up after a knockdown -- it typically beats his regular flash kicks outright -- and you're free to endlessly mix him up from there.

But NOW that they've made his damage output considerably higher, those few shots you used to take to get in on him now smashes your health bar down to nothing.  Additionally, he can throw MORE sonic booms at a faster rate and Psycho Punisher is too slow to punish them from anywhere.  In other words, he's still gonna zone you like nobody else is capable of.

You still can't directly jump on him, ever; cr.FP is murder and with Bison's big jump, he'll air throw you all day.  Standing FP seems to be ever nastier now too.  Occasionally you might be able to trick him with an empty devil reverse (don't press punch to put out the purple hand), land next to him and throw, but most of the time you're gonna take a shot.  You gain some ground from it, though. 

All I can say is EX scissor kick is your friend; if you can bait Guile into throwing a sonic boom at mid-screen and you've got the meter (if you don't have meter and he's turtlin', LP devil reverses in the corner to build), quickly EX scissor through that shit for the knockdown and start crossing that bitch up.  It might not be best to finish your combos with HP psycho crusher in this case because it puts you in a poor position to get back on top of him, but if you can land a couple, the extra stun is seriously worth it as Guile's got less stun points than average.  It's sort of a mixed bag there; I'd probably go for it if I were behind in the match.  If he's pushing you out of range, LK scissor kick on him -> FADC the first hit -> dash in and toss him into a corner.  If he whiffs a single flash kick, you know what to do: make him pay with that Psycho Punisher.  Bait that shit out with back dash and FA back dash.

Also, Guile's that sweep are dumb --block the first hit, cr.LK xx MK scissors to tag the second, or if you don't like the timing, EX scissor the second hit.  Good Guile's will almost never do this, so don't sit around looking for it.
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