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« Reply #1260 on: February 13, 2010, 05:55:02 AM »
I want to find the guy who decided that Chapter 14 was a good idea and kick him in the crotch repeatedly until his balls are bluer than Malek's.

Hey Kamiya, if shitty on-rails shooters were my thing, I would buy a fucking Wii.

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« Reply #1261 on: February 13, 2010, 07:12:07 AM »
Weren't you supposed to be working on more productive ways to express your anger, or was that only toward people who are actually participating in the conversation?

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« Reply #1262 on: February 13, 2010, 07:57:28 AM »
I want to find the guy who decided that Chapter 14 was a good idea and kick him in the crotch repeatedly until his balls are bluer than Malek's.

Hey Kamiya, if shitty on-rails shooters were my thing, I would buy a fucking Wii.

It was a Space Harrier parody, dude.
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« Reply #1263 on: February 13, 2010, 08:46:37 AM »
Parodies shouldn't take themselves so seriously and make you fight boss after boss with only one checkpoint in the whole thing. And it was just bursting at the seams with poor design decisions, like your ship being able to block your view of incoming projectiles, the dodge buttons spinning the screen 360 degrees coupled with the overwhelming number of times you're forced to use the dodge button (I'd never had motion sickness because of a game until now), dodging the green projectiles not triggering Witch Time and a host of other things.

Worst level of an otherwise good game ever.

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« Reply #1264 on: February 13, 2010, 09:21:40 AM »
It's so much easier than the real Space Harrier...it boggles the mind how anyone could have trouble in that section.

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« Reply #1265 on: February 13, 2010, 09:32:04 AM »
To be fair, Space Harrier is a pretty shitty game.
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« Reply #1266 on: February 13, 2010, 09:37:17 AM »
I just couldn't handle the spinning. That was the main problem I had. If not for that, I wouldn't have had much trouble at all.

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« Reply #1267 on: February 15, 2010, 12:40:00 AM »
Doing my hard run and the chapter XI boss (three heads/three tongues) was pretty hard!  Otherwise hard mode has been pretty easy/doable, but something about getting hits in while dodging the spiked tentacles and the main face was really tough.  Not looking forward to fighting him again later on!   :-\

Also doing a 2nd run makes me really hate the QTEs all the time.  I'm trying to speedrun (for the under 3 hour weapon) through the game and I have to keep mashing X all the time >_<  Also the motorbike stage is zzzzz and I'm assuming the harrier stage will be boring too.  They should let you skip those parts on higher difficulty replay! 

This hard run has been a lot of fun though.  Probably most fun game I've played this year besides KH BBS.

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« Reply #1268 on: February 15, 2010, 12:41:30 AM »
Oh and in Infinite Climax do you still get Witch Time if you parry at the last moment?

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« Reply #1269 on: February 15, 2010, 01:39:16 AM »
Nope.
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« Reply #1270 on: February 15, 2010, 02:41:52 AM »
 :'(

Will definitely give it a shot after finishing hard, but I think that may be too hardcore for me. 

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« Reply #1271 on: February 15, 2010, 02:51:06 AM »
Use the Devil Rosary accessory.  That'll help you get used to not having Witch Time.
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« Reply #1272 on: February 15, 2010, 02:52:22 AM »
The Moon sucks... use the Evil Rosary period
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« Reply #1273 on: February 15, 2010, 02:52:56 AM »
I did use it for a while but the little counter explosion thing didn't do much damage to enemies so I took it off and just kill them in witch time after parrying.

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« Reply #1274 on: February 15, 2010, 02:55:24 AM »
It clears enemies with that explosion, very good crowd control. It's also extremely useful against Jeanne, etc. when you dodge dodge dodge and you make those orbs.

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« Reply #1275 on: February 15, 2010, 03:02:03 AM »
lol

I don't know any good combos!  So I just do attacks and parry/dodging when enemies counter (which is all the time) and then finish them off in witch time.  I keep the combo meter going, but I don't do much damage until I get witch time and can do moves with big windup since I won't get hit out of them.  Without witch time I should be able to keep alive and dodge/parry incoming stuff, but I just dunno how I'll do good damage. 

What is your main weapon setup mr. bayonetta-master?  I use sword/kilgore or sword/claws

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« Reply #1276 on: February 15, 2010, 07:51:58 AM »
Sword + Durga
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« Reply #1277 on: February 15, 2010, 08:09:47 AM »
The Moon is awesome on Hard. Makes Gracious and Glorious very easy to kill, because if you get a perfect parry off them you still get witch time. Not terribly useful on Inf. Climax though, I just used it to reflect projectiles from certain bosses.

Are you doing Dodge Offsets bebpo? It's one of the most important aspects to Bayonetta's combat.
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« Reply #1278 on: February 15, 2010, 10:45:22 AM »
Yeah, I love parrying in this game.  Though sometimes because of the 3d camera I can't tell exactly which direction it wants me to push.

I'm not using dodge offset as much as I'd like.  I use it when I'm actually holding down a button when an attack comes in, but I don't tend to hold down attacks except for the last hit, usually I'm just tap tap tap so when I see an attack coming it's like tap, dodge instead of hold, dodge.  Doesn't make that big of difference though because like I said I don't know any good combos!

I mainly do mixups of PKP and PPKK and PKK and one of the short chains that floats (although I can only lift&juggle certain enemies) -> A+B -> juggle a bit -> hold K to bring them down

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« Reply #1279 on: February 15, 2010, 01:19:55 PM »
If you plan on tackling Non stop climax, then I definitely recommend getting down Dodge Offset.
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« Reply #1280 on: February 15, 2010, 01:20:59 PM »
You definitely do not need Dodge Offset. Evil Rosary and you are set.
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« Reply #1281 on: February 15, 2010, 02:38:08 PM »
You definitely do not need Dodge Offset. Evil Rosary and you are set.
This is true. I got lazy about learning dodge offset. Didn't use it once while playing through infinite climax. I'm guessing you might need to know it if you're trying to platinum infinite climax though.

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« Reply #1282 on: February 15, 2010, 04:34:22 PM »
Yeah I don't care about grades too much.  Continuing if you mess up > the time it takes to hit start -> title -> continue

I dunno, will try infinite climax and see how it goes.  I'm already getting way more play out of this than I do with the Ninja Gaiden games.  I beat those each once on normal and nevered touch them again.  NG Black especially was hard enough as is on normal.  Bayonetta is super fun though and not too hard so like the DMC games I want to go as far as I can in the difficulties. 

Can anyone recommend some good easy to execute combos that do good damage besides PKP?  With the lightning claw I do that as PK(charge explosion)P which does pretty good damage but I need to be in witch time for the K(charge) because I just sit there and will get hit out of it.

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« Reply #1283 on: February 15, 2010, 05:56:09 PM »
Continue using that combo if you like, but Dodge Offset with it. So YB(hold)RYR. That right there is essentially broken -- you can beat every difficulty without much trouble just doing that single move. As for other good moves, I liked to use this combo often: P<-P(hold for the lift), PPKP, A B, PPPKKK. I think that's how it went, to  be honest I've nearly forgotten how to play and it's only been a month since I PP'd everything. :-\

PP (delay) P is good, PPK(K/K/P) is good (and very very useful against Jeanne). A couple of the angel arms are pretty useful as well, like the staff and bow. Pick them up and mash B with the bow to annihilate everyone you see or B with the staff to do this spin attack that also destroys everyone around you (they also give you tons of points + multiplier).

Bayonetta's combo system is very free-form, so just experiment really. Lots of moves wind up launching the enemy and from there he's all yours. It's not as combo focused as DMC (more so linking every enemy together during the fight for the multiplier), so really just do whatever works. Take a look at the combo list next time you play and just use short attacks that end with a weave, like PKP, PPKKK, PP . P, etc.

Also, you might want to use the fire durgas, since that will leave a bomb in the air for a few seconds with its hold attack
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« Reply #1284 on: February 15, 2010, 07:51:45 PM »
The problem I had with the fire bomb is the same problem I had with the rosary with some enemies: it sits for a second and the enemy moves and it doesn't hit them.

Good info though, will try that.  I wish I could get better at juggling because if you juggle you can actually finish your combo (at least on normal/hard) without the enemy combo breaking it.  Whereas when I do ground combos the enemy every few seconds combo breaks it and counters and I gotta dodge or parry and then start over again (which is why I need to get the dodge offset down). 

I'm used to fighting games & DMC where once you start a combo the enemy is stuck in it and that's why it's a combo!

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« Reply #1285 on: February 15, 2010, 08:21:35 PM »
Use the X button to keep combos going. It serves no other purpose.

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« Reply #1286 on: February 16, 2010, 04:40:17 PM »
Got my Bayonetta tshirt today
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« Reply #1287 on: February 16, 2010, 05:36:33 PM »
How is it? Does it feel cheap? I didn't bother sending in a pic.

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« Reply #1288 on: February 17, 2010, 04:14:55 PM »
today is the day I buy Bayonetta. I will spam this thread asking for tips from the pros here

god Im looking forward to playing something other than Peggle.

demi I double dog dare you to 200/200 Peggle XBLA
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« Reply #1289 on: February 17, 2010, 04:57:39 PM »
today is the day I buy Bayonetta. I will spam this thread asking for tips from the pros here

god Im looking forward to playing something other than Peggle.

demi I double dog dare you to 200/200 Peggle XBLA

Peggle sucks... no thanks
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« Reply #1290 on: February 17, 2010, 04:57:58 PM »
How is it? Does it feel cheap? I didn't bother sending in a pic.

It's decent I think. It's a "Jerseez" brand
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« Reply #1291 on: February 17, 2010, 06:27:56 PM »
I got the "Climax" edition and I think I stuffed up. Art book is nice, but the CD is only 6 tracks long  :( and now Im stuck with a crappy Scarborough Fair gun model. It might look good on a shelf with lots of other toys but I dont have any crap like that.

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« Reply #1292 on: February 17, 2010, 07:03:28 PM »
Nope. Cept the puzzle stuff.
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« Reply #1293 on: February 17, 2010, 08:15:59 PM »
Sceneman, I would kill for that Scarborough Fair gun model. :rock
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« Reply #1294 on: February 17, 2010, 08:51:20 PM »
where do you live? I'll post it to you if youre that keen. PM me
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« Reply #1295 on: February 17, 2010, 08:52:51 PM »
I wish! I'm in Japan, the shipping would be killer. :(
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« Reply #1296 on: February 17, 2010, 08:58:46 PM »
Its already boxed up and its pretty light, I cant see it being too expensive, I send crap to the US for secret santa and its never too bad. Is postage to Japan quite a bit more? I live in New Zealand so Japan is closer to me than the US.
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« Reply #1297 on: February 17, 2010, 09:00:36 PM »
Oh, I didn't know you were in NZ!  If you're willing to send it to me, I will love you forever.  :heartbeat

I'll PM you my address when I get home. :rock
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« Reply #1298 on: February 17, 2010, 09:04:28 PM »
yeah I just checked the shipping costs and its 10 bucks NZ (like 6 US), its no sweat.

Ive had heaps of sweet hookups from this forum (like Muckhole posting me that pandora battery modding thing all the way from Canada), so what goes around comes around eh?
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« Reply #1299 on: February 17, 2010, 09:05:24 PM »
Sweetness.  Thank you so much!
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« Reply #1300 on: February 17, 2010, 09:48:25 PM »
I dock this game for putting the best fight in the game at the end of 10 MINUTES OF SHITTY MINI-GAME.  So if I ever want to replay the fight because it's awesome I would have to sit through that entire missile crap.  Which basically means I'm never replaying that fight for fun.  :\

The last Jeanne fight was so good on hard.  Only thing I don't like is the furious mashing it requires during the constant QTEs or you get hit and take damage  :'(  My thumb is deaddddd

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« Reply #1301 on: February 17, 2010, 11:33:16 PM »
finished my hard run.  fuuuuuun.  Really really awesome game.
After my normal run I thought it was great, but not really up there with DMC3/4 & NG1/Black/2
But on hard without the cutscenes and with 100x better battles (faster, actual challenge) it was awesome.  Hard should have been the starting difficulty.  But then I said the same thing about DMC4.  Would definitely put it over NG2 and the Dante half of DMC4.  Need to replay Nero half of DMC4 again on hard to see which I still like better, but I have a feeling I like them about the same.  Bayonetta would be almost a perfect action game on replays (without the cutscenes) if it just didn't have the stupid vehicle levels and there wasn't so much QTE.  Game also needs a boss rush mode.

Questions:
1.  I just missed the 3 hour mark on this run.  Can I just go back and replay a level or two that I spent too long on and get better times to bring the total under 3 hours?  Or do I have to start from the beginning and do another entire run in under 3?

2.  How do you use the compact mirror.  I have all these halos at this point and I'm not interested in any accessories (have rosary & moon), so I'm just spending it all on costumes.  I bought the mirror and a bullet but I can't figure out where to equip it?

3.  Do you get hearts and moon pearls from the Altheim (or whatever it's called)?  I've yet to try any of the challenges and my HP and MP is REALLY SHORT (less than 1.5 bars for both).  I figure if I'm going to do infinite climax I should max out my bars first?

kinda random but I really like the boss music for the surfboard boss.  It's the most epic track in the game IMO.

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« Reply #1302 on: February 17, 2010, 11:45:24 PM »
1. Yes to the first part.
2. Press RB at the chapter menu.
3. Yes

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« Reply #1303 on: February 17, 2010, 11:55:06 PM »
Infinite Climax is the same thing as hard mode, except no witch time. Nothing is changed.
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« Reply #1304 on: February 17, 2010, 11:55:21 PM »
Just tried infinite climax and these bazillion guns.  Guns were boring, but IC is fun!  Rosary does indeed do great crowd control :o

Are the last 2 weapons cool?  As in not just being stronger but actually having fun unique moves so they play differently?

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« Reply #1305 on: February 18, 2010, 12:17:51 AM »
Pillow Talk is just a stronger sword. I haven't unlocked the gunchucks yet (100 chapters :-\), but they look really cool and play differently from what I've seen in the youtube vids.

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« Reply #1306 on: February 18, 2010, 01:20:58 AM »
The nunchuks are pretty good. I used them during my Hard and NSIC Pure Platinum runs because they are the only weapon (off the top of my head anyway) that hit-stuns enemies who are enraged. I found them very useful for that.

Infinite Climax is the same thing as hard mode, except no witch time. Nothing is changed.

I'm pretty sure some of the Alfheims are different between Hard and NSIC.
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« Reply #1307 on: February 18, 2010, 01:50:27 AM »
Enraged!

That reminds me.  I've yet to press the taunt button  :lol
What's the benefit of taunting and enraging enemies?

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« Reply #1308 on: February 18, 2010, 02:11:53 AM »
They give 1.5x as many points, are more aggressive, and regular attacks (aside from the nunchuk's) won't interrupt them, only weaves IIRC. Actually, I think <-P still lifts them - almost forgot about that. Taunting also keeps your combo going and is essential for scoring well. There's also the Gaze of Despair accessory, which auto-enrages every enemy all the time. I don't play without it. :smug

Different weapons have different taunts too. One time I accidentally did the Durga taunt right before the final climax on Ch.11... made me :lol
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« Reply #1309 on: February 18, 2010, 07:21:09 PM »
jokes on ichi, I actually Fed-Ex'ed him a KFC bucket full of horseshit  :-*
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« Reply #1310 on: February 18, 2010, 09:46:35 PM »
FFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

That was my work address too. :(
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« Reply #1311 on: February 19, 2010, 02:50:14 PM »
holy shit this game is amazing!
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« Reply #1312 on: February 22, 2010, 05:37:10 AM »
jokes on ichi, I actually Fed-Ex'ed him a KFC bucket full of horseshit  :-*
:lol

Of course, if it's KFC, how can you tell the diff between horseshit and their regular chicken?
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« Reply #1313 on: February 22, 2010, 05:55:35 PM »
unfortunately KFC is the only fried chicken chain restaurant we have here. I like their burgers.

Up to Chapter 7 on Normal now. Damn my gaming skills need honing pretty hard, been playing too much easy crap like Mass Effect and stuff. Getting the hang of the combos  (I cant believe how many moves there are!) and getting pretty good at crowd control, juggles etc. but certain enemies are still owning me. Having real trouble with those fire and lightning guys with the extendable claws, theyre pretty unpredictable and their attacks damage pretty hard. Just gotta man up and get better. Shotguns good at knocking them back and setting them up for a combo Ive found.

Characters are a little hit and miss. I like Bayonetta and Rodin, Cereza is pretty cute and charming. Luka is annoying as hell and Jeanne is a bit boring.

But yeah, awesome, awesome game. Really looking forward to working hard and mastering it :)
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« Reply #1314 on: February 22, 2010, 08:19:12 PM »
I need to go back to it and finish Infinite Climax.

Mass Effect is easy? ???
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« Reply #1315 on: February 23, 2010, 03:12:18 AM »
I dunno.  Bayonetta is easy but ME1 was pretty easy too once you got amazingly overpowered early on.  'Splosion Man is harder than both!

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« Reply #1316 on: February 23, 2010, 04:25:17 AM »
splosion man is pretty easy imo, I dunno I guess some games are harder for others
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« Reply #1317 on: March 09, 2010, 04:48:03 PM »
finally got back to playing this, OMG, I just did the level where the thread title came from... SO. AWESOME. Loved the Space Harrier remixed music, and the Outrun remix on the bike level. Nothing beats Sega fanservice! (actually a lot of things do but you know what I mean)
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« Reply #1318 on: May 09, 2010, 05:47:46 PM »
Eh, it runs really good 95% of the time.  The tearing is a little sucky, but it's not too frequent and it usually holds 60fps.

It's not the best looking game out there, but I think it looks more than fine.

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« Reply #1319 on: May 09, 2010, 06:02:22 PM »
The tearing is only really bad on Chapter 2 or 3 - the village level
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