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Smooth Groove

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Official PS3 Update 3.01 Thread of Useless Clock Fix + Drive Killin' Fail!
« on: October 02, 2009, 02:13:57 AM »

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Y'all know I'm not fond of Sony but this is not fud.  Just wanna warn those who have OG PS3s and haven't performed the firmware update yet.

Crap, I'm gonna go see if my Blu-ray drive still works. 



http://www.homemediamagazine.com/playstation/some-ps3-owners-say-firmware-killed-their-blu-ray-17198

Sony Computer Entertainment America’s (SCEA) latest firmware updates for its PlayStation 3 gaming system offered cosmetic redesigns and were intended to improve user navigation and profile information.

But an increasing number of PS3 owners, mostly those with 60GB launch players, are saying the 3.0 and 3.01 updates had a disastrous side effect: it disabled the Blu-ray Disc player.

Those complaining about the firmware say that after the upgrade — which SCEA offers as a direct download to PS3s connected to the Internet — their systems would no longer recognize any Blu-ray Disc games or movies. Some say the systems still recognize DVDs. Others say the firmware killed all disc functionality.

Dan Lawlor, a 36-year-old IT consultant from Charlotte, N.C., is one of the PS3 owners who says SCEA’s firmware broke his PS3, as well as those of two other people he knows. He is one of many consumers posting about the problem on Web sites, signing petitions, complaining to the Better Business Bureau, and even helping to start Web sites about the problem, including ps3circleofdeath.com.

“We are now staring at well over $2,100 worth of hardware that was purchased at launch [purchased by himself and his friends], at a premium, to have the ‘best’ PS3 that Sony made. Worthless. All rendered useless by a firmware update that pushes these early launch systems beyond their original intended parameters,” he said.

Lawlor said he believes SCEA didn’t test the effect the new firmware update would have on older PS3s.

“The firmware update that was intended to decrease Blu-ray Disc read times by speeding up the motor and spindle, is causing an increased power draw,” he said. “This is fine for the newer systems made with 60nm [nanometer] and 45nm chipsets that use less power and therefore create less heat.

“But for the older, original 90nm chips, that already ran towards the hot side to begin with, it’s fatal. Too much power draw creates too much heat and leads to overheating and failure. It’s blatantly obvious to anyone who has worked with computers and laptops.”

Lawlor said a SCEA customer service representative told him that the firmware update had nothing to do with the hardware failure. He and other consumers complaining about the firmware have been told by SCEA that they can pay $150 to have their system fixed, he said.

That’s what Greg Cowtan, a 36-year-old software engineer from Oshawa, Ontario, Canada ended up doing, even though he maintains it was SCEA’s fault.

“I think they should give consumers an option to trade in their systems, or send them in to get them fixed for free, like Microsoft did with the Xbox,” he said. Cowtan referred to the widespread hardware failure problem for the competing Xbox 360, dubbed the “red ring of death.” In mid-2007, Microsoft acknowledged the problem, extended the warranties on the systems, and let consumers send in their systems to be fixed for free.

“Either someone [at SCEA] is in a bunch of trouble, or they knew it was going to happen and went ahead because it would only affect a few thousand consumers,” Cowtan continued. “I think someone over there made a mistake, a very big one.”

A SCEA spokeswoman said she was not aware of the problem, while Patrick Seybold, SCEA senior director of corporate communications and social media, posted in a PS3 Web site blog that the company was aware of “isolated issues” with the 3.0 firmware update.

“Rest assured that we are looking into the matter and will provide an update here as soon as possible,” he wrote. “We apologize for any inconvenience, as it’s our mission to deliver the best consumer experience on all PlayStation platforms.”

Andy Parsons, SVP of corporate communications and new product planning for Pioneer and chair of the Blu-ray Disc Association promotion committee in the United States, said the horror stories from some PS3 owners shouldn’t dissuade Blu-ray player owners from upgrading their firmware, which is often needed to access certain Blu-ray movie features, and in the PS3’s case, play games online and access other game features.

“Only Sony can comment on the PS3 question of course, but from an overall point of view, we believe firmware updates are well worth installing on all players that offer them,” he said. “The BDA in fact has encouraged consumers to check our Web site frequently for links to manufacturer firmware updates, since we strongly believe that it’s important to ensure that innovative features on new titles will operate correctly on existing players. Many studios have even included instructions to this effect in some of their newer releases.”
« Last Edit: October 05, 2009, 01:01:49 AM by Smooth Groove »
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Re: Don't update 3.01 firmware on your 20gb/60gb PS3s!
« Reply #1 on: October 02, 2009, 02:16:32 AM »
Everything coming up roses for Sony lately
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Re: Don't update 3.01 firmware on your 20gb/60gb PS3s!
« Reply #2 on: October 02, 2009, 02:21:29 AM »
Sony is just copying Nintendo here, just like always.
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Re: Don't update 3.01 firmware on your 20gb/60gb PS3s!
« Reply #3 on: October 02, 2009, 02:26:10 AM »
Oh for godsakes

good thing I haven't turned on my ps3 in weeks
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Re: Don't update 3.01 firmware on your 20gb/60gb PS3s!
« Reply #4 on: October 02, 2009, 02:30:49 AM »
After studying the issue some more, it's probably best to not use the Blu-ray drive at all if you've already upgraded the firmware.  I haven't even tested it just in case it might overheat during the test. 

Luckily, I've no use for the Blu-ray drive right now but Sony better get it fixed by the time Uncharted 2 is released.  
« Last Edit: October 02, 2009, 02:33:39 AM by Smooth Groove »
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Re: Don't update 3.01 firmware on your 20gb/60gb PS3s!
« Reply #5 on: October 02, 2009, 02:49:07 AM »
I updated and watched all of Lost Season 3 with no problem.
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Re: Don't update 3.01 firmware on your 20gb/60gb PS3s!
« Reply #6 on: October 02, 2009, 02:51:01 AM »
Uhm, I know several people with old PS3s that have done this update with no problem, yet everyone that one guy knows has had problems? Not saying about the validity of the problem, but that testimonial seems real dodgy.
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Smooth Groove

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Re: Don't update 3.01 firmware on your 20gb/60gb PS3s!
« Reply #7 on: October 02, 2009, 02:52:43 AM »
Quote from: duckman2000 on October 02, 2009, 02:51:01 AM
Uhm, I know several people with old PS3s that have done this update with no problem, yet everyone that one guy knows has had problems? Not saying about the validity of the problem, but that testimonial seems real dodgy.

But have they been using the Blu-ray drive much?  That seems to be the main cause of the problems.

I know I'm not gonna take a chance with the drive until there's a new firmware. 
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« Reply #8 on: October 02, 2009, 02:54:43 AM »
Quote from: Smooth Groove on October 02, 2009, 02:52:43 AM
Quote from: duckman2000 on October 02, 2009, 02:51:01 AM
Uhm, I know several people with old PS3s that have done this update with no problem, yet everyone that one guy knows has had problems? Not saying about the validity of the problem, but that testimonial seems real dodgy.

But have they been using the Blu-ray drive much?  That seems to be the main cause of the problems.

I know I'm not gonna take a chance with the drive until there's a new firmware. 

They all play more games and watch more movies on the system than I do. Not worth taking a chance if you're worried about it, but this article seems all sorts of lulz. One dude that is seemingly in the middle of a console apocalypse, and another demanding a RROD type response and replacement plan.
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Re: Don't update 3.01 firmware on your 20gb/60gb PS3s!
« Reply #9 on: October 02, 2009, 03:00:00 AM »
If the firmware was blowing up PS3s wouldn't there be a huge GAF thread about it?

Maybe the guy in the article works for Nintenfo and wants to deflect the hate over the bricked Wiis.
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Re: Don't update 3.01 firmware on your 20gb/60gb PS3s!
« Reply #10 on: October 02, 2009, 03:04:40 AM »
this is just the 3.01 update, correct?  i'm running 3.00

edit: nevermind, just saw it was 3.0 as well.  hope my 60GB BC doesn't shit the bed.
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Re: Don't update 3.01 firmware on your 20gb/60gb PS3s!
« Reply #11 on: October 02, 2009, 03:08:04 AM »
Like I said I updated and watched all of Lost S3 in a row with no problems.
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Re: Don't update 3.01 firmware on your 20gb/60gb PS3s!
« Reply #12 on: October 02, 2009, 03:23:46 AM »
Duckman, if this really is a heat-related problem, then it's not really that far-fetched for a bunch of PS3s from a hot area to have that issue, right?
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« Reply #13 on: October 02, 2009, 04:07:22 AM »
Quote from: Smooth Groove on October 02, 2009, 03:23:46 AM
Duckman, if this really is a heat-related problem, then it's not really that far-fetched for a bunch of PS3s from a hot area to have that issue, right?

No, but it's far fetched to believe the guy (with the website, lulz) who claims that it has happened to every one he knows. It's also hard to take any article seriously that quotes a guy demanding a RROD type response from Sony. Whether the issue is real or not, this article is absolutely "fud."
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« Reply #14 on: October 02, 2009, 04:28:39 AM »
It's the PS3 Go!
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« Reply #15 on: October 02, 2009, 04:45:20 AM »
i've had no problems
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Re: Don't update 3.01 firmware on your 20gb/60gb PS3s!
« Reply #16 on: October 02, 2009, 06:16:17 AM »
beat uncharted on 3.01 with no issue...
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« Reply #17 on: October 02, 2009, 06:36:39 AM »
Quote from: Groo on October 02, 2009, 06:12:48 AM
One of the guys on OLL had his BDs stop reading yesterday, so I wonder if this is his problem too.
I'm not gonna upgrade until they fix it, but I have a feeling this is their way of "phasing out" old hardware and get ready for the PS2 Store.

That's so incredibly cynical it could very well be true  :lol
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« Reply #18 on: October 02, 2009, 07:33:34 AM »
Quote from: Groo on October 02, 2009, 06:12:48 AM
One of the guys on OLL had his BDs stop reading yesterday, so I wonder if this is his problem too.
I'm not gonna upgrade until they fix it, but I have a feeling this is their way of "phasing out" old hardware and get ready for the PS2 Store.

 :rofl


That might be the most awesome (horrible) thing ever.  You should post this over at the NeoGAF just to see how long it takes you to get banned for posting it.  Grab a stopwatch.
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« Reply #19 on: October 02, 2009, 07:48:37 AM »
Quote from: MCD on October 02, 2009, 06:16:17 AM
beat uncharted on 3.01 with no issue...
same, although my system did lock up once (which was supposed to be the problem that 3.01 fixed :-\)
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« Reply #20 on: October 02, 2009, 09:05:01 AM »
Quote from: Eel O'Brian on October 02, 2009, 03:04:40 AM
this is just the 3.01 update, correct?  i'm running 3.00

edit: nevermind, just saw it was 3.0 as well.  hope my 60GB BC doesn't shit the bed.
Where'd you see that? I'm relieved if that's so. I updated to 3.0 but haven't updated to 3.01 fearing my 60GB would die. I've played plenty of inFamous the past couple of days and had no problems, knock on wood.
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« Reply #21 on: October 02, 2009, 10:35:23 AM »
No issues on my 60GB Phat!
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Bocsius

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Re: Don't update 3.01 firmware on your 20gb/60gb PS3s!
« Reply #22 on: October 02, 2009, 10:55:30 AM »
Um.... banner?
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Re: Don't update 3.01 firmware on your 20gb/60gb PS3s!
« Reply #23 on: October 02, 2009, 12:18:57 PM »
I've got 3.00 for sure, I probably updated my FW to 3.01 and I've been playing a ton of Gundam 0081, Katamari and Ninja Gaiden Sigma 2 on my 60 GB PS3 phat. I've even played a couple DVD and Blu-ray movies without a single problem.

[furiously knocks on wood]
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Re: Don't update 3.01 firmware on your 20gb/60gb PS3s!
« Reply #24 on: October 02, 2009, 12:37:11 PM »
I'll post a banner if someone makes one.  Don't forget the wrestlers. 
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Re: Don't update 3.01 firmware on your 20gb/60gb PS3s!
« Reply #25 on: October 04, 2009, 11:22:38 AM »

This good?
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Re: Don't update 3.01 firmware on your 20gb/60gb PS3s!
« Reply #26 on: October 04, 2009, 11:47:31 AM »
Sony hating on Evilbore, who would've thunk it  ::) ::) ::) ::)
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Re: Don't update 3.01 firmware on your 20gb/60gb PS3s!
« Reply #27 on: October 04, 2009, 03:51:39 PM »
Quote from: MyNameIsMud on October 04, 2009, 11:47:31 AM
Sony hating on Evilbore, who would've thunk it  ::) ::) ::) ::)

We should all be giving high praise to Sony for the newest firmware updates! 

THANK YOU FOR FUCKING UP OUR SYSTEMS, SONY!
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Re: Don't update 3.01 firmware on your 20gb/60gb PS3s!
« Reply #28 on: October 04, 2009, 05:10:25 PM »
I'm replaying Uncharted to get the crushing trophy. Fuck, I'm getting raped.

System is doing fine, btw. 60GB model, etc.

Another Ps3 firmware, another doom and gloom article. If I'd have believed all the rumors, my system would've died 13 firmwares ago...
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Re: Don't update 3.01 firmware on your 20gb/60gb PS3s!
« Reply #29 on: October 04, 2009, 07:00:07 PM »
Quote from: MyNameIsMud on October 04, 2009, 11:47:31 AM
Sony hating on Evilbore, who would've thunk it  ::) ::) ::) ::)

nomg stop. You aren't clever.
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« Reply #30 on: October 04, 2009, 07:24:37 PM »
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Re: Don't update 3.01 firmware on your 20gb/60gb PS3s!
« Reply #31 on: October 04, 2009, 10:34:55 PM »
my 60 GB system is doing fine.  I haven't been playing any disc based games on it lately but I've been watching a ton of blu-ray movies.
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duckman2000

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Re: Don't update 3.01 firmware on your 20gb/60gb PS3s!
« Reply #32 on: October 04, 2009, 10:36:16 PM »
Quote from: Lucretius on October 04, 2009, 10:34:55 PM
my 60 GB system is doing fine.  I haven't been playing any disc based games on it lately but I've been watching a ton of blu-ray movies.

Phew, aren't you a lucky dude. I heard about this one guy, he and all of his friend lost their systems because of this!
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Re: Don't update 3.01 firmware on your 20gb/60gb PS3s! (now with crappy banner)
« Reply #33 on: October 04, 2009, 11:46:58 PM »
Launch 60GB running fine, playing discs perfectly. Never a concern.
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Re: Don't update 3.01 firmware on your 20gb/60gb PS3s! (now with crappy banner)
« Reply #34 on: October 05, 2009, 12:07:54 AM »


:rofl
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Re: Official PS3 Update 3.01 Thread of Useless Clock Fix + Drive Killin' Fail!
« Reply #35 on: October 05, 2009, 10:17:41 PM »
Both my 60's on 3.00 have been working fine. I won't hear the end of it, if the kids can't get their Snow white on tomorrow.

I want to know how this guy knows or thinks that they sped up the speed of the drive. Sony never releases details like that.
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Re: Official PS3 Update 3.01 Thread of Useless Clock Fix + Drive Killin' Fail!
« Reply #36 on: October 05, 2009, 10:25:49 PM »
Quote from: Hyoushi on October 02, 2009, 06:36:39 AM
Quote from: Groo on October 02, 2009, 06:12:48 AM
One of the guys on OLL had his BDs stop reading yesterday, so I wonder if this is his problem too.
I'm not gonna upgrade until they fix it, but I have a feeling this is their way of "phasing out" old hardware and get ready for the PS2 Store.

That's so incredibly cynical it could very well be true  :lol

It's been obvious since they removed BC that it would happen.
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