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zune pass is the best fucking thing ever
« on: October 03, 2009, 12:41:26 AM »
it is
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« Reply #1 on: October 03, 2009, 12:46:55 AM »
never tried it. have to make do with youtube and isohunt.  :'(

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« Reply #2 on: October 03, 2009, 12:50:38 AM »
$15/month and a better spend than yet another mmo (tm)
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« Reply #3 on: October 03, 2009, 12:55:35 AM »
I think Rhapsody has a significantly bigger library, but you gotta deal with Real software and the compatible mp3 players kinda suck.

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« Reply #4 on: October 03, 2009, 12:56:52 AM »
i'm kinda off MMO's for right now. if I had a zune I'd probably be all over it. probably.

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Re: zune pass is the best fucking thing ever
« Reply #5 on: October 03, 2009, 12:59:00 AM »
The fact that you get to pick 10 tracks per month to keep even if you cancel the pass is pretty awesome and is what pushes the service over the top imo.  I'm asking for a ZuneHD for Crimmus, so if I get it then I plan on getting the Zune pass.
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« Reply #6 on: October 03, 2009, 01:01:12 AM »
New Zune software is also the shit. :rock
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« Reply #7 on: October 03, 2009, 01:05:44 AM »
15 bucks to only keep 10 songs per month? That's a bit lame.

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« Reply #8 on: October 03, 2009, 01:06:54 AM »
It's been good for a long time, ignoramus!

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« Reply #9 on: October 03, 2009, 01:15:58 AM »
15 bucks to only keep 10 songs per month? That's a bit lame.

You can download as many as you want, but if you decide to cancel it ever you lose everything that isn't a priority download or whatever.  I mean, $15 a month for unlimited downloads as long as you have the service plus 10 tracks per month that you get to keep is pretty good.
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Re: zune pass is the best fucking thing ever
« Reply #10 on: October 03, 2009, 01:18:46 AM »
15 bucks to only keep 10 songs per month? That's a bit lame.

while the pass is in effect you have unlimited downloads, PLUS you can keep 10/mo after you cancel the pass
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« Reply #11 on: October 03, 2009, 01:20:48 AM »
From what I read about the pass though, you have to choose which songs are the preferred downloads or whatever the terminology is when you download them- you can't go back and do it retroactively.  Also they don't roll over, so you better use your 10 per month.
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« Reply #12 on: October 03, 2009, 01:23:52 AM »
Yup,  I don't always remember to get my 10 songs each month and they don't roll over to the next month.   

I just forget 'cause the Zune pass gets me unlimited downloads anyway and I plan to have it for a long time. 

It's probably best to use those credits when you can because sometimes MS does take songs off the Zune marketplace. 

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« Reply #13 on: October 03, 2009, 01:24:44 AM »
I'm not one for renting music. If I download it, I want to own it. This might be attractive versus other programs, I don't know. But for me, I know I can buy 20-25 songs on Amazon for that $15. I think instead of a 10 song credit, you should be able to spend the spacebuck equivalent of that 15 bucks on whatever you want in the store. The music rental thing would be a thank you for signing up for the autodraft of your funds.
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« Reply #14 on: October 03, 2009, 01:29:44 AM »
No thanks, I'll just stick to Audacity and Grooveshark.


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« Reply #15 on: October 03, 2009, 02:03:44 AM »
Renting out music makes me lol

I still listen to an MP3 CD player.  Any good programs that let you drag and drop to an MP3 player?  I don't feel like spending several minutes transferring shit on an MP3 player.
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« Reply #16 on: October 03, 2009, 02:12:52 AM »
No thanks. Torrents and real CDs are better imo, also iTunes if I'm desperate.

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Re: zune pass is the best fucking thing ever
« Reply #17 on: October 03, 2009, 03:03:45 AM »
why the fuck would you pay for music
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« Reply #18 on: October 03, 2009, 03:08:35 AM »
This is my second day using the program and I'm still having issues with the library function.  It promotes it's self as not being an ugly spreadsheet but I think I liked that about Itunes. 

Plus I've got to reorganize the 30 gigs of music I have.  Luckily a compulsive non-socializing hermit like me likes that.
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« Reply #19 on: October 03, 2009, 03:14:12 AM »
New Zune software is also the shit. :rock

Yeah, and you don't need a Zune to use it. But does it work with Last.fm yet?

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« Reply #20 on: October 03, 2009, 03:33:35 AM »
the zune pass thing is tempting, but I am sort of ideologically opposed to the Zune in general.  the whole point of listening to recorded music is that you can just shut your eyes and focus on the goddamn music and totally disregard all the social bullshit etc. that surrounds it.  that is why live shows suck and recorded music is great.  and that is why the zune software with its social networking features and, like, fucking All Music Guide bios and publicity stills suspended in the air or whatever in the player when you play a track is an abomination.  music should be about music, not hairstyles or photography or biography or high school cliques
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« Reply #21 on: October 03, 2009, 03:41:20 AM »
The real problem with the Zune is that recorded music is all about collecting the appropriate album covers to strew about your apartment before company arrives, like in Play It Again Sam.

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« Reply #22 on: October 03, 2009, 03:50:39 AM »
 >:( 

Sansa Clip forever  :heart
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« Reply #23 on: October 03, 2009, 03:57:05 AM »
the zune pass thing is tempting, but I am sort of ideologically opposed to the Zune in general.  the whole point of listening to recorded music is that you can just shut your eyes and focus on the goddamn music and totally disregard all the social bullshit etc. that surrounds it.  that is why live shows suck and recorded music is great.  and that is why the zune software with its social networking features and, like, fucking All Music Guide bios and publicity stills suspended in the air or whatever in the player when you play a track is an abomination.  music should be about music, not hairstyles or photography or biography or high school cliques

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Van Cruncheon

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« Reply #24 on: October 03, 2009, 01:13:10 PM »
shutting your eyes, as you've suggested, would appear to solve your problem

i use none of the social features
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« Reply #25 on: October 03, 2009, 01:19:47 PM »
I wonder if they're going to allow stuff like Pandora and last.fm on their app marketplace?  I use the Pandora app all the time on my ipod touch - I plug it in to some external speakers and just let it play while I'm reading or typing or whatever.
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« Reply #26 on: October 03, 2009, 01:55:45 PM »
buying music lolol
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« Reply #27 on: October 03, 2009, 04:41:11 PM »
buying music lolol

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« Reply #28 on: October 03, 2009, 08:46:18 PM »
I pirate music like mad... unless I can't find the song, then I'll just purchase on Beatport... which means I end up spending like $100 a month on that site anyways. Or unless it's one of my friends who made the track, I'll buy their stuff.
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« Reply #29 on: October 03, 2009, 11:36:16 PM »
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shutting your eyes, as you've suggested, would appear to solve your problem

i use none of the social features

It's the principle, and also if I blow a couple hundred dollars on some sexy piece of hardware or software, I so badly want to drink the Kool-Aid and abuse all the features, so it's frustrating when I can't without feeling dirty.

It would also help if these things had decent support for classical music.  Charles Petzold has a blog post on this:

Quote from: Charles Petzold
The big problem is that MP3 players are structured around a paradigm — let's call it the Artist-Album-Song paradigm — that apparently works just dandy for commercial pop albums, but it pretty much a disaster for classical music.

For example, here's the hierarchy used to store and present music on MP3 players:

Artist: The Rolling Stones
-->Album: Exile on Main Street
---->Song: Rocks Off
---->Song: Rip this Joint
etc.
The Artist-Album hierarchy parallels the way in which CDs are shelved in a store, and songs are stored on the CD. But as you can easily confirm with a stroll through the Classical department of your local Tower Records your local Virgin Megastore J&R Music World in New York City, the rest of us don't shop that way. (Or check out ArkivMusic.com, which more than any other site knows how to present classical music to the consumer.)

We prefer a hierarchy that looks more like this (and throughout this analysis I will use the term "Artist" to encompass individual performers, ensembles, and conductors with orchestras):

Composer: Franz Schubert
-->Composition: String Quintet in C Major
---->Artist: Cleveland Quartet plus Yo-Yo Ma
------>Movement: 1. Allegro ma non troppo
------>Movement: 2. Adagio
------>Movement: 3. Scherzo. Presto – Trio. Andante sostenuto
------>Movement: 4. Allegretto

Notice the presence of the Composer, which is probably the major difference between classical music and commercial pop. In pop music, the composer is still extremely important — somebody always needs to write the music! — but is pretty much ignored by the music's consumers. (What infinitesimal percentage of Michael Jackson fans can actually name the songwriter behind "Thriller"?)

Notice the Artist is listed after the Composition but before the Movements. This hierarchy allows accessing the same Composition performed by different Artists.

And notice there's no Album in this hierarchy. The Album is a structural element in pop music, but an artifical construct in classical music. [...]

The Zune Marketplace exacerbates this problem, half of the records in the classical section have the composer as the artist and half have the performer, making it frustrating to browse and forcing you to do a bunch of fiddling with tags to have any semblance of sanity in your own collection.  It's a big mess, plus the selection is fairly limited.
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« Reply #30 on: October 03, 2009, 11:53:44 PM »
I'd pay $15/month for some unlimited prole.   :-*

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« Reply #31 on: October 04, 2009, 12:37:24 AM »
i hope your adapter can handle my bandwidth

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« Reply #32 on: October 04, 2009, 12:54:20 AM »
patel sent this to me in im :'( :'( :'(

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« Reply #34 on: October 04, 2009, 02:25:09 AM »
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« Reply #35 on: October 05, 2009, 11:52:49 AM »
:rofl
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« Reply #36 on: October 05, 2009, 06:42:27 PM »
:lol
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« Reply #37 on: October 05, 2009, 06:44:21 PM »


somehow i knew it would exist
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« Reply #38 on: October 05, 2009, 06:45:01 PM »
if there was only a way to show how funny i found that cartoon without having to engage in the creepy groupthink
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« Reply #39 on: October 05, 2009, 07:01:26 PM »
Too late, you're already creepy.
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« Reply #40 on: October 05, 2009, 07:06:19 PM »
if there was only a way to show how funny i found that cartoon without having to engage in the creepy groupthink
i'm sure your genius will find a way--hopefully it won't be passive aggressive, like a little teenage bitch.
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« Reply #41 on: October 05, 2009, 07:27:54 PM »
if there was only a way to show how funny i found that cartoon without having to engage in the creepy groupthink

heaven forfend you try to, y'know, share in a moment
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« Reply #42 on: October 05, 2009, 07:41:20 PM »
i'm sure your genius will find a way--hopefully it won't be passive aggressive, like a little teenage bitch.

is it actual irony that the guy with "bam you have aids" username is lecturing me on passive aggressiveness, or is it just alanis-styled irony?

Too late, you're already creepy.

just as long as you don't eat me, you can toss off all the bon mots you wish

heaven forfend you try to, y'know, share in a moment

i really did find it funny but the bandwagon, it is completely full
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« Reply #43 on: October 05, 2009, 07:48:19 PM »
*Checks off groupthink and bandwagon*

If he says "circle-jerk" then I've got bingo.

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« Reply #44 on: October 05, 2009, 07:49:19 PM »
Yeah, you might as well just steal music if you aren't going to pay any kind of decent price for it.  At least then you'd have control over the bitrate and format.  And it wouldn't be DRM'ed to fuck and back.

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« Reply #45 on: October 05, 2009, 07:53:00 PM »
*Checks off groupthink and bandwagon*

If he says "circle-jerk" then I've got bingo.

Where does "On my dick" fit into this game?
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Saint Cornelius

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« Reply #46 on: October 05, 2009, 07:54:03 PM »
*Checks off groupthink and bandwagon*

If he says "circle-jerk" then I've got bingo.

I was actually going to make a comment about the hive mind before you stepped in.

Where does "On my dick" fit into this game?

With Suicide MW complaining about its' usage over at OA?
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Van Cruncheon

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« Reply #47 on: October 05, 2009, 07:56:15 PM »
why does agreeing with internet people bug you so
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« Reply #48 on: October 05, 2009, 08:34:00 PM »
I think you have it all wrong, Prole. Since Zune is a second class citizen amongst media players, I think it should embrace the contrarian nature of Saint Cornelius.

Imagine:

ZUNE
Join the anti-social.
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Saint Cornelius

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« Reply #49 on: October 05, 2009, 10:01:06 PM »
why does agreeing with internet people bug you so

It's not that I am bugged by agreeing with people; it's just that I hate to be a part of people laughing at who said what instead of what they said.

I think you have it all wrong, Prole. Since Zune is a second class citizen amongst media players, I think it should embrace the contrarian nature of Saint Cornelius.

Imagine:

ZUNE
Join the anti-social.

I'm an asshole, and you're huge. We've all got our crosses to bear; mine gave me high blood pressure, yours gave you obesity.

I don't play nice, so how about we drop it?
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« Reply #50 on: October 05, 2009, 10:06:17 PM »
Corny, how in the blue fuck can you tell if someone is laughing at someone rather than at something?  Come on now.
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« Reply #51 on: October 05, 2009, 10:10:02 PM »
My paranoia tells me what's what
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« Reply #52 on: October 05, 2009, 10:12:25 PM »
My paranoia tells me what's what

You need to switch your weed prescription then.  Change in your sativa for a nice indico.
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« Reply #53 on: October 05, 2009, 11:21:36 PM »
what the

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« Reply #54 on: October 06, 2009, 01:11:53 AM »
I'm an asshole, and you're huge. We've all got our crosses to bear; mine gave me high blood pressure, yours gave you obesity.

I don't play nice, so how about we drop it?

You think that bothers me? :lol
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« Reply #55 on: October 06, 2009, 01:29:38 AM »
Wow not even a jew joke at Wilco, what is this, alternate evilbore?
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« Reply #56 on: October 06, 2009, 03:52:27 AM »
The groupthink here is so pathetic.  That garbage didn't even get a pity chuckle out of me. 

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« Reply #57 on: October 06, 2009, 06:30:51 AM »
The groupthink here is so pathetic.  That garbage didn't even get a pity chuckle out of me. 

Yeah, wow.  Someone posted a picture, and other people found it humorous.  HOW FUCKING DARE THEY. 

HOW. FUCKING. DARE. THEY.
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