NSMB Wii Thread

[cool breeze]

second coin was easy since they showed you the the exit point on the next screen.  The trick was finding out where the entrance was.

Going to start world 8 tomorrow, really liking this game except for the occasional waggle gimmick stage and music.  It's not difficult like they were saying prerelease, though.  I'm guessing World 9 is the killer.

[EmCeeGrammar]

uggghhhhh 7-mid castle fucking sucks.  This game is awesome until they go waggle crazy on you.  Like, this game is has been super easy and I got 99 lives just by playing, yet when I get to these waggle garbage sections I die a bunch.  Why would waggle be pick up enemy AND move the platform!?

it's even just a pain to play these sections.  apparently I hold controllers tilted to the left since just stepping on the platform has it fly to the left of the screen.  I have to play like fucking Frankenstein's monster.

In order to pick up the bombs you have to jump on them anyway, which deactivates the platform.  Didn't have a problem with that section and kinda enjoyed the bullet bill/bombomb barrage.

[Eel O'Brian]

can you turn off the waggle bits

[demi]

No

[BobFromPikeCreek]

lol "waggle bits"

[TakingBackSunday]

It ain't no big deal.  The only waggle parts that bothered me were the one or two levels where you controlled a moving platform with it.  I actually liked it for the screw jump or whatever - I went back to play the original DS version and found myself shaking the entire DS 

[cool breeze]

yeah, the waggle spin that's part of Mario's main moveset is fine.  Even picking up enemies with 1+waggle isn't that bad.  The stage that have platforms and objects controlled with waggle are absolutely awful.  At World 7 there have been maybe 4-5 of them in the game ranging from "this is distinguished mentally-challenged" to "this is distinguished mentally-challenged and I hate this".  One of the 7 stages has platforms that move left or right depending on where you tilt.  The best part is that if you tilt at a spin past a turtle's, the platform moves, Mario does a fucking spin jump and flies off the platform.

[TakingBackSunday]

sounds like someone isn't good at this game 

[EmCeeGrammar]

Uh swaggaz, you do know you don't have to pick up turtle shells and bomb-ombs with the waggle+1, right?  You just run into those to pick them up.

edit:
"The best part is that if you tilt at a spin past a turtle's, the platform moves, Mario does a fucking spin jump and flies off the platform."
Or do you mean, if you tilt to fast then it fucks up?

[SantaC]

so everybody hates the waggle which i pointed out in the beginning. Brandnew owned.

[Bebpo]

sounds like someone isn't good at this game 

Yeah, it's not that waggle controls in games are inaccurate compared to an analogue or a button.  People are just bad at them 

/this message was brought to you by WFFA, the waggle-free-future-association

[cool breeze]

Uh swaggaz, you do know you don't have to pick up turtle shells and bomb-ombs with the waggle+1, right?  You just run into those to pick them up.

edit:
"The best part is that if you tilt at a spin past a turtle's, the platform moves, Mario does a fucking spin jump and flies off the platform."
Or do you mean, if you tilt to fast then it fucks up?

uh, no shit you can pick them up.  But the game puts a fucking ice flower power up during that section.  Frozen enemy requires waggle+1.

sounds like someone isn't good at this game 

no dude, ya can't even joke about that shit.  Up to world 8 and the only levels I die on are the waggle ones.  That isn't an exaggeration.  I wish I could find stats to back it up, because it's ridiculous.  The only stages where Mario has a hat are the waggle ones.  Rest of the time I have 99 legit lives; not the wimp lives people get by farming a koopa shell early on.  They're just poorly designed levels to use the waggle gimmick.  As I've said, the only bad parts of this game are the waggle stages and the music.  Everything else is ace.

Uh swaggaz, you do know you don't have to pick up turtle shells and bomb-ombs with the waggle+1, right?  You just run into those to pick them up.

edit:
"The best part is that if you tilt at a spin past a turtle's, the platform moves, Mario does a fucking spin jump and flies off the platform."
Or do you mean, if you tilt to fast then it fucks up?

I mean, I try playing the game and it fucks up because the waggle sucks shit in those levels.

[magus]

i finaly got a chance to play the game up to world 3 and it was good but lacking that punch to truly make it remarkable,have had no problem with the controls until now

[TakingBackSunday]

wtf at gaf bitching about this game's voice acting

[demi]

It sucks bro. Mario's line at the end of a level is weak.

[TakingBackSunday]

sgoty, confirmed

(shittiest)

[cool breeze]

Got through worlds 1 to 8

Awesome game sans waggle stage and music.  Never was difficult, but I'm on World 9, so maybe this is where it is supposed to get hard.

Also, I wish the style in the credits was used throughout the entire game.

[TakingBackSunday]

...what do you mean?  That IS the style throughout the entire game.

[cool breeze]

The characters and objects casting shadows on the background.  It reminded me SMB3 with some objects.

If you haven't finished it yet/forgot, you can see it here:

[TakingBackSunday]

I'm not sure what you mean 

The credits WERE awesome though.  Rad music, too.

[Oblivion]

I hate 9-7 sooooooooo much.

[magus]

those star coins can get so annoying to find,i swear i had to repeat the first boo house at least 10 time before finding the last one!
also i'm the only one who doesn't like the propellor suit? it's a double jump basicaly and giving mario a double jump is well... just wrong!

[TakingBackSunday]

suck a FUCK, the propellor suit is the best fucking power-up in the game.  So goddamn awesome.

[twerd]

suck a FUCK, the propellor suit is the best fucking power-up in the game.  So goddamn awesome.

if you hate platformers and suck at the game, then yes.

the penguin suit is undeniably the best power up in the game, although you could make an argument for mini-mario. check it: with penguin you make can new platforms by freezing enemies, easily dispatch enemies through sliding or through freezing them (allowing you to do the fun stuff, the platforming), you can skim on water, your traction is better on ice. the only thing cool about the propeller suit is that you look like you're wearing a dunce cap.  the hat sucks balls b/c it breaks the game and allows you to float right on by the best parts of the game. people who liked the raccoon suit and the NSMBds power up, i'm calling you out too.

i love this game to death, though. altho seriously, fuck that shake +1 button crap. unlike swaggaz i love the tilting mechanics that add to the level design, but the multiple uses nintendo assigned to one button (THE WAGGLE BUTTON) is just straight up bad design. with one misplaced shake you can pick up items you didn't mean to, suicide leap off of yoshi, propeller hat your way to your doom, or leap to your death from one of the tilting levels. this game is a 10/10 wrapped in pretty mediocre audio/visuals and some nintendo (read: bone-headed) decisions that leave you scratching your head (no online, no level editor officially, no ability to save replays, only waggle option). so i can understand the 8s to 9s the game is getting and its still the best 2d mario i've ever played.

[drew]

i just lost over an hour of game time because i accidentally pressed the power button during an underwater level

fuck my fucking life

[TakingBackSunday]

I need jarosh to back a brutha up on my propellor suit love

[drew]

and it just happened again, this time it wiped my 40 something life count down to 8, i know i quicksaved, they must wipe out all your quick saves if you shut down suddenly

yeah, that has to be it, im right back after the first castle

FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

edit:  all they had to do to avoid shit like this is put in a pop up making sure you want to shut down, especially with the button being so close to the dpad and having games where you have to hold the controller sideways

[drew]

right, i know that, im just like a deer in head lights at how easy it was to wipe 4 hours of progress with a little thumb pressure

if they want to have a save system like this they should make sure its not played horizontally, and vice versa

edit: wow, i just accidentally used an invincible star in the overworld, today is just not my day

[cool breeze]

Penguin suit is the best suit in the game.  In addition to having ice flower powers and the slide, you get a lot more control on ice and in water.  Propeller suit is awesome, too, and I don't think it's really overpowered since it shoots you straight up.  If you compare it to the cape or leaf in past games, it may seem a bit cheap, but w/e.  Actually, the only thing I dislike is that a lot of the stage aren't designed by taking it into consideration.  SMB3 and World had hidden section in the sky you could fly up to.  I guess it's because of the co-op and keeping everything on one screen.  And mini-mushroom is still lame.

[magus]

i've reached world 7 and... i don't know but i'm not feeling the game,there is nothing bad about it but if you asked me "what was the most awesome moment you had in the game?" i seriously wouldn't know what to reply because i literaly got nothing! nada! zero!

[TakingBackSunday]

That's a shame 

[demi]

Dont worry magus, I stopped playing in World 2. These guys are more hardcore than me, I dunno how they do it.

[EmCeeGrammar]

NSMBwii online just sounds like a griefers paradise.

[TakingBackSunday]

I don't like the propeller suit or the penguin suit. I wish they would have retained the huge mushroom, it was fun bursting through levels with it.

it served no strategic, platforming purpose though.  worst mario power-up ever

[drew]

my thumbs are so sore and tender from playing this with the horizontal remote setup, stupid style over functionality 90 degree edged d pad

i switched to the nunchuk and oh my god instant relief, it works really well too, just takes five minutes and its second nature, and last but not least no random accidental shut downs and loss of progress

[Crushed]

This game is fuck awesome.

[magus]

well i've finished world 8 and got the extra stuff but i really have no motivation to bother with it so i guess i'm done with the game... my opinion really doesn't change,it's mario so of course there is fun to be had but ultimately there is really no reason to pick this over super mario world or super mario bros 3 unless you really love waggle gimmick or dark levels

[TakingBackSunday]

 

"This is a fun game, but since I'm a nostalgia cigarillo, this game sucks."

[Bebpo]

"This is a fun game, but since I'm a nostalgia cigarillo, this game sucks."

why are you on everyone's ass defending this game.

Yes, we get that it's fun, but that doesn't automatically make it BEST GAME EVER.  Lots of games are fun!  People can dislike it or rate it lower than other games while still admitting it to be a fun experience.

[TakingBackSunday]

I don't have a problem with saying "oh I don't like it as much as blahblah," that's completely fine.  I'll say it as well: I DON'T like it as much as SMW or Galaxy.  But to say shit like this:

there is really no reason to pick this over super mario world or super mario bros 3

is just fucking stupid.  Really?  There's no reason at all to buy a game that stands out as one of the best in the series, even if some people don't like it as much as the "heralded two?"  It's bullshit logic.

I can give you plenty of reasons to pick this game up, and yes, over SMW or SMB3.  MULTIPLAYER is the obvious fucking one.

[magus]

oh it's not a matter of heralded two! i said it in another thread,it uses old super mario music,it uses old super mario gimmick (grates and ghost house's from super mario world,airship level from super mario bros 3... a level where you get chased by a giant fish... the koopa bro) and everytime it tries something new it's a boring level (the raft one where you stop everytime there are 5 enemies on it... the dark one where you control the flashlight with the waggle control) that is why i say there is no reason to pick this over the classic mario and why i can't call it "one of the best of the series" really... i think of this game in the same way i think of megaman power up! you could call the game "potpourri mario bros" and it would have been a more honest name... there was a time when a mario game could take place inside a giant robot and have as a boss the three little pigs and this without need to reuse any music,boss or gameplay mechanic

i do agree that multiplayer is lot of fun but i can play local only on rare occasion so it doesn't do much for me 

[TakingBackSunday]

You missed the memo: our blood has been replaced by yoshi piss

[AdmiralViscen]

I got all the secret exits, and I have all the coins in Worlds 1, 2, 3, 5 and 6. I have all the coins in the level 9 levels I've unlocked too, except for the third one in 9-6. Still enjoying the game a lot. The gay Wii channel indicates that this is in my top 5 or so played Wii games already.

[AdmiralViscen]

I only need coins from World 8-7, 8-Ship, 8-Castle, and 9-7 and 9-8

[cool breeze]

I need to do the World 9 levels.  I did 9-1, 9-8 and 9-7 right away to see if they were as hard as people said.  I was a bit let down.

[AdmiralViscen]

They are not that hard. I got all 3 coins in my first successful attempt on each of them, except for two of them. I got two coins in each of those.


You don't think 9-7 is hard? This level sucks. It would be easy except for the fact that every fucking pipe is half an inch taller than you can clear with a stand-still jump, and there's barely any room to build up a head of steam.

[AdmiralViscen]

I had to use a starman and a propeller hat, which I never do, and reset it a bunch of times but I got all 3 coins. And with that I have a 5-star game profile. Took a touch over 24 hours, a bit less than SMG.

[Bebpo]

I'm still on world 6  :'(

[AdmiralViscen]

I am the real Wii fan around here!


Also it looks like all the theories on profile stars on GameFAQs are wrong. I had 3 profile stars when I had nothing left to do but get the third coin in 9-7. I had already beaten the stage, and done absolutely everything in worlds 1-8. I got that third coin and got not one, but two stars on my profile.

[Oblivion]

They are not that hard. I got all 3 coins in my first successful attempt on each of them, except for two of them. I got two coins in each of those.


You don't think 9-7 is hard? This level sucks. It would be easy except for the fact that every fucking pipe is half an inch taller than you can clear with a stand-still jump, and there's barely any room to build up a head of steam.

9-7 is the worst goddamn level in the game.

[Van Cruncheon]

haha, i didn't even know the waggle wand was used as a flashlight in the dark levels, and thank god i didn't, since i really enjoyed those without it!

[EmCeeGrammar]

The dark level in world 8 was a real bitch for me personally. 

spoiler (click to show/hide)

its underwater, no flashlight, falling spikeballs

[close]

[Oblivion]

Yeah, that level was pretty shitty. Actually, I didn't like any of the ones with there being no light.

[twerd]

i liked the lightless levels because i have refined taste and do not fear the unknown.

[Bebpo]

Man, just did the mid-castle of world 7 and it was the first time waggle controls really bothered me.  The post-checkpoint star where you are on the elevator moves left/right on your tilt with all the little bombas and you need to grab one and place it 'right' next to the block and then get in there.  Doing all that while also trying to KEEP THE CONTROLLER PERFECTLY LEVEL so it didn't swing left/right was VERY HARD FOR ME.  First time I got the Luigi box  

[EmCeeGrammar]

I loved that level.  Wait till world eight which has the same tilt controlled platform but with lava and .... other stuff.

[AdmiralViscen]

Man, just did the mid-castle of world 7 and it was the first time waggle controls really bothered me.  The post-checkpoint star where you are on the elevator moves left/right on your tilt with all the little bombas and you need to grab one and place it 'right' next to the block and then get in there.  Doing all that while also trying to KEEP THE CONTROLLER PERFECTLY LEVEL so it didn't swing left/right was VERY HARD FOR ME.  First time I got the Luigi box  

Yes, that shit was distinguished mentally-challenged.

[cool breeze]

Man, just did the mid-castle of world 7 and it was the first time waggle controls really bothered me.  The post-checkpoint star where you are on the elevator moves left/right on your tilt with all the little bombas and you need to grab one and place it 'right' next to the block and then get in there.  Doing all that while also trying to KEEP THE CONTROLLER PERFECTLY LEVEL so it didn't swing left/right was VERY HARD FOR ME.  First time I got the Luigi box  

yeah, that level pissed me off big time.  Not hard or anything, just annoying.

[Don Flamenco]

gonna try this out tomorrow on my parents' wii.  can't wait

[twerd]

i liked that tilt while platforming level, it was kind of a mindfuck.