Author Topic: The AV Club: 30 Best TV Series of the Aughts (Read 25743 times)

Robo · « **on:** November 12, 2009, 02:13:23 PM »

http://www.avclub.com/articles/the-best-tv-series-of-the-00s,35256/1/

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30. The West Wing (NBC, 1999-2006)
29. Wonder Showzen (MTV2, 2005-06)
28. Eastbound & Down (HBO, 2009-present)
27. Flight Of The Conchords (HBO, 2007-2009)
26. The Venture Bros. (Cartoon Network, 2003-present)
25. Buffy The Vampire Slayer (The WB/UPN, 1997-2003)
24. Dexter (2006-present)
23. Undeclared (Fox, 2001-02)
22. Six Feet Under (HBO, 2001-05)
21. Curb Your Enthusiasm (HBO, 2000-present)
20. Tim And Eric Awesome Show, Great Job! (Cartoon Network, 2007-present)
19. Big Love (HBO, 2006-present)
18. How I Met Your Mother (CBS, 2005-present)
17. Firefly (Fox, 2002-2003)
16. Friday Night Lights (NBC, 2006-present)
15. Veronica Mars (UPN/The CW, 2004-07)
14. Futurama (Fox, 1999-2003)
13. 30 Rock (2006-present)
12. Battlestar Galactica (2004-09)
11. The Office US (NBC, 2005-present)
10. The Shield (FX, 2002-08)
9. Deadwood (HBO, 2004-06)
8. Lost (ABC, 2004-present)
7. The Office UK (BBC 2, 2001-03)
6. Breaking Bad (AMC, 2008-present)
5. Mad Men (AMC, 2007-present)
4. Freaks And Geeks (NBC, 1999-2000)
3. Arrested Development (Fox, 2003-06)
2. The Sopranos (HBO, 1999-2007)
1. The Wire (HBO, 2002-08)

The Wire

but where the fuck is It's Always Sunny?

tehjaybo · « **Reply #1 on:** November 12, 2009, 02:19:49 PM »

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20. Tim And Eric Awesome Show, Great Job! (Cartoon Network, 2007-present)

Just, no. This list is VERY incorrect.

Robo · « **Reply #2 on:** November 12, 2009, 02:24:28 PM »

You're right, Tim & Eric is better than Firefly.

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #3 on:** November 12, 2009, 02:27:51 PM »

Needs more Metalocalypse.

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List redeems that omission by having no Seth MacFarlane series.

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Don Flamenco · « **Reply #4 on:** November 12, 2009, 02:28:39 PM »

*goes straight to number 1*

*nods in approval*

The Fake Shemp · « **Reply #5 on:** November 12, 2009, 02:29:57 PM »

I agree, shit like Wonder Showzen and Tim and Eric don't belong on there, and the total lack of It's Always Sunny is a travesty. I'd also include Chuck.

I think what we can all agree on is that this was the best decade for television programming since ever.

Mr. Gundam · « **Reply #6 on:** November 12, 2009, 02:31:34 PM »

I think Wonder Showzen deserves to be on there. Tim and Eric can burn in hell for all I care, though.

drew · « **Reply #7 on:** November 12, 2009, 02:33:34 PM »

Quote from: Willco on November 12, 2009, 02:29:57 PM

I agree, shit like Wonder Showzen and Tim and Eric don't belong on there, and the total lack of It's Always Sunny is a travesty. I'd also include Chuck.

smfh

Quote from: distantmantra on November 12, 2009, 02:31:34 PM

I think Wonder Showzen deserves to be on there.

:brofist

Mr. Gundam · « **Reply #8 on:** November 12, 2009, 02:35:20 PM »

Quote from: Drewsy on November 12, 2009, 02:33:34 PM

Quote from: Willco on November 12, 2009, 02:29:57 PM
I agree, shit like Wonder Showzen and Tim and Eric don't belong on there, and the total lack of It's Always Sunny is a travesty. I'd also include Chuck.

smfh

Quote from: distantmantra on November 12, 2009, 02:31:34 PM
I think Wonder Showzen deserves to be on there.

:brofist

:supermegaawesomeexplodingbrofist

Chuck, really? Yeah... no.

Robo · « **Reply #9 on:** November 12, 2009, 02:36:16 PM »

Peep Show is also noticably missing.

Flannel Boy · « **Reply #10 on:** November 12, 2009, 02:36:33 PM »

Quote from: Drewsy on November 12, 2009, 02:33:34 PM

Quote from: distantmantra on November 12, 2009, 02:31:34 PM
I think Wonder Showzen deserves to be on there.

:brofist

I think that has a different connotation for distantmantra.

Quote from: Genghis Cohen on November 12, 2009, 02:35:47 PM

Chuck? Ban willco

Chuck is good escapist television.

Quote from: RoboJ on November 12, 2009, 02:36:16 PM

Peep Show is also noticably missing.

This.

Mr. Gundam · « **Reply #11 on:** November 12, 2009, 02:40:36 PM »

Quote from: Genghis Cohen on November 12, 2009, 02:39:52 PM

Although any list with two Josh Whedon shows isn't worth shit.

Buffy's best years were in the 90s, not the aughts. In hindsight, I feel comfortable in saying that the show got really lame once she went to college.

Flannel Boy · « **Reply #12 on:** November 12, 2009, 02:40:53 PM »

Quote from: Genghis Cohen on November 12, 2009, 02:39:52 PM

Although any list with two Josh Whedon shows isn't worth shit.

Yeah, neither Firefly nor Buffy of the 00s belongs on the list.

Mr. Gundam · « **Reply #13 on:** November 12, 2009, 02:41:44 PM »

Quote from: Harry Lime on November 12, 2009, 02:40:53 PM

Quote from: Genghis Cohen on November 12, 2009, 02:39:52 PM
Although any list with two Josh Whedon shows isn't worth shit.

Yeah, neither Firefly nor Buffy of the 00s belongs on the list.

Angel was much better than 00s Buffy. Not sure if I'd put it on the list, but it was sooo much better.

Flannel Boy · « **Reply #14 on:** November 12, 2009, 02:42:58 PM »

I'd put AD at number one.

The list is also missing House.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #15 on:** November 12, 2009, 02:43:52 PM »

#1 is right, I support this list

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #16 on:** November 12, 2009, 02:45:10 PM »

Nah. The Wire is better on every level, and more consistent

FlameOfCallandor · « **Reply #17 on:** November 12, 2009, 02:46:18 PM »

Freaks and Geeks!! YAY!

Van Cruncheon · « **Reply #18 on:** November 12, 2009, 02:46:39 PM »

the shield needs to be higher

FlameOfCallandor · « **Reply #19 on:** November 12, 2009, 02:47:08 PM »

There is also a serious lack of Drawn Together.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #20 on:** November 12, 2009, 02:47:52 PM »

Quote from: Genghis Cohen on November 12, 2009, 02:46:25 PM

Except it isn't funny, and hence why comedies and dramas can't really be compared.

Ah I didn't mean in that sense. Although The Wire is pretty funny at times

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Barry Egan · « **Reply #21 on:** November 12, 2009, 02:48:24 PM »

I'm glad Eastbound and Down made the list. That show is fucking awesome.

Kestastrophe · « **Reply #22 on:** November 12, 2009, 02:48:27 PM »

Sopranos above Arrested Development?

The Fake Shemp · « **Reply #23 on:** November 12, 2009, 02:48:47 PM »

Chuck is awesome, and is easily better than Wonder Showzen.

Mr. Gundam · « **Reply #24 on:** November 12, 2009, 02:49:40 PM »

Quote from: mojovonio on November 12, 2009, 02:46:07 PM

And where the hell is Twin Peaks?

The 00's, you know 2000-2009.

Quote from: Willco on November 12, 2009, 02:48:47 PM

Chuck is awesome, and is easily better than Wonder Showzen.

Someone please revoke Will's membership to the Hollywood Movie Makers Club.

FlameOfCallandor · « **Reply #25 on:** November 12, 2009, 02:51:06 PM »

Also, Big Love doesn't deserve to be on the list. It's good, but not list worthy.

Mr. Gundam · « **Reply #26 on:** November 12, 2009, 02:51:43 PM »

Quote from: Genghis Cohen on November 12, 2009, 02:50:26 PM

I still don't get the love for Breaking Bad (cue SC). I thought the show was awful.

I've tried watching it a couple time, just doesn't click with me.

The Fake Shemp · « **Reply #27 on:** November 12, 2009, 02:51:43 PM »

Quote from: Genghis Cohen on November 12, 2009, 02:50:26 PM

I still don't get the love for Breaking Bad (cue SC). I thought the show was awful.

I haven't seen it, but it gets much love.

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Chuck is the same episode repeated for two full seasons.

Obviously have not watched both seasons, or a full one.

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #28 on:** November 12, 2009, 02:52:06 PM »

Quote from: Kestastrophe on November 12, 2009, 02:48:27 PM

Sopranos above Arrested Development?
The Office US above The Office UK?

UK is at 7, US is at 11.

Kestastrophe · « **Reply #29 on:** November 12, 2009, 02:52:22 PM »

Why isn't Rome on that list?

Despite all the complaints, I think its a pretty decent list as far as lists are concerned

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #30 on:** November 12, 2009, 02:52:43 PM »

Where's 24, smh

The Fake Shemp · « **Reply #31 on:** November 12, 2009, 02:53:08 PM »

Why is "How I Met Your Mother" on this list.

The Fake Shemp · « **Reply #32 on:** November 12, 2009, 02:53:20 PM »

Quote from: Phoenix Dark on November 12, 2009, 02:52:43 PM

Where's 24, smh

24 sucks, dude.

Kestastrophe · « **Reply #33 on:** November 12, 2009, 02:53:32 PM »

Quote from: Phoenix Dark on November 12, 2009, 02:52:43 PM

Where's 24, smh

Mr. Gundam · « **Reply #34 on:** November 12, 2009, 02:53:46 PM »

Quote from: Willco on November 12, 2009, 02:53:08 PM

Why is "How I Met Your Mother" on this list.

Because it's awesome, unlike Chuck.

Seriously, Jason Segel and Neil Patrick Harris are great on it.

The Fake Shemp · « **Reply #35 on:** November 12, 2009, 02:56:22 PM »

If you're arguing that the central concept of the show is the same, of course it is - that's how most television works. If that bothers you, you better not watch House or Dexter or Burn Notice or anything else in that vein.

Great character, great writing. One of the best written shows on television since the end of the first season - which was very uneven. And guess what, even the AV Club agrees.

Mr. Gundam · « **Reply #36 on:** November 12, 2009, 02:56:55 PM »

Quote from: mojovonio on November 12, 2009, 02:55:09 PM

WHERE IS METAL GEAR SOLID 4: GUNS OF TEH PATRIOTS

WHERE IS THE O'REILLY FACTOR

WHERE IS THE 700 CLUB

The Fake Shemp · « **Reply #37 on:** November 12, 2009, 02:57:32 PM »

Quote from: distantmantra on November 12, 2009, 02:53:46 PM

Because it's awesome, unlike Chuck.

Seriously, Jason Segel and Neil Patrick Harris are great on it.

Show sucks and it's been running on fumes for years now. Neil Patrick Harris is the only likable character.

Mr. Gundam · « **Reply #38 on:** November 12, 2009, 02:59:14 PM »

Quote from: Willco on November 12, 2009, 02:57:32 PM

Quote from: distantmantra on November 12, 2009, 02:53:46 PM
Because it's awesome, unlike Chuck.

Seriously, Jason Segel and Neil Patrick Harris are great on it.

Show sucks and it's been running on fumes for years now. Neil Patrick Harris is the only likable character.

I'll agree that it's been running on fumes this season, but it's still awesome.

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #39 on:** November 12, 2009, 03:00:12 PM »

I love Chuck, but it did always seem to boil down to "Sarah why don't you love me :'(" and "Chuck you're the intersect THATS WHY."

I'm very intrigued by the third season's twists though, considering where the series is going now. And Chuck is an awesome character, but his awesomeness is surpassed by most everyone around him.

The Fake Shemp · « **Reply #40 on:** November 12, 2009, 03:02:14 PM »

I don't think Twin Peaks came out this decade.

CajoleJuice · « **Reply #41 on:** November 12, 2009, 03:03:21 PM »

Quote from: Genghis Cohen on November 12, 2009, 02:58:53 PM

Nah, terrible character. Everyone else in the show carries Chuck's whiny ass. i feel the same about Burn Notice that I do Chuck, good, but not great with better side characters than the main one. Dexter and House get a pass for the formulaic nature of their shows because the main characters are so awesome.

I agree with this, and I enjoy Chuck quite a bit.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #42 on:** November 12, 2009, 03:03:58 PM »

Quote from: Willco on November 12, 2009, 02:53:20 PM

Quote from: Phoenix Dark on November 12, 2009, 02:52:43 PM
Where's 24, smh

24 sucks, dude.

24>Chuck

The Fake Shemp · « **Reply #43 on:** November 12, 2009, 03:05:09 PM »

Maybe the first season, but 24 hasn't been good for almost a decade.

Kestastrophe · « **Reply #44 on:** November 12, 2009, 03:07:34 PM »

Wasn't 24 created to justify the use of torture or something?

Solo · « **Reply #45 on:** November 12, 2009, 03:14:09 PM »

Its OK, Feder. I will bear the Chuck cross with you.

Although Cohen's comments aren't far from the truth about the formula of the show. Even if they are just making the same episode over and over, they're getting better at it.

BamYouHaveAids · « **Reply #46 on:** November 12, 2009, 03:33:33 PM »

curb should be much higher, i would place it ahead of both the office shows

bump out the josh whedon shows and replace them with always sunny and supernatural

Diunx · « **Reply #47 on:** November 12, 2009, 03:33:47 PM »

Why are "How I met Your Mother" , "The Office" and "30 Rock" higher than curb? fucking piece of shit fail list.

Bebpo · « **Reply #48 on:** November 12, 2009, 03:41:47 PM »

West Wing should be higher

/haven't seen West Wing

Mr. Gundam · « **Reply #49 on:** November 12, 2009, 03:44:18 PM »

Quote from: Bebpo on November 12, 2009, 03:41:47 PM

West Wing should be higher

/haven't seen West Wing

The first few seasons of West Wing were brilliant, I'm surprised that it just barely made the list.

Joe Molotov · « **Reply #50 on:** November 12, 2009, 03:46:54 PM »

Why isn't According to Jim on there? Awful list.

Don Flamenco · « **Reply #51 on:** November 12, 2009, 03:48:14 PM »

Quote from: mojovonio on November 12, 2009, 02:55:09 PM

WHERE IS METAL GEAR SOLID 4: GUNS OF TEH PATRIOTS

IT'S FOR TV SHOWS NOT MOVIES!

but i forgive you for rooting for Twin Peaks, even though that show was out in 1990-91

also, Tim and Eric is on there

Mr. Gundam · « **Reply #52 on:** November 12, 2009, 03:49:34 PM »

Quote from: Genghis Cohen on November 12, 2009, 03:48:46 PM

There are a lot of people that don't like Curb Your Enthusiasm at all, mind you, and for good reason. It is very much a show for a select group of people.

It's funny, but I can barely get through an episode before I want to kill everyone in the cast.

Don Flamenco · « **Reply #53 on:** November 12, 2009, 03:49:52 PM »

Quote from: Genghis Cohen on November 12, 2009, 03:48:46 PM

There are a lot of people that don't like Curb Your Enthusiasm at all, mind you, and for good reason. It is very much a show for a select group of people.

white jewish people?

Diunx · « **Reply #54 on:** November 12, 2009, 03:51:05 PM »

Curb is awesome, how can anyone not like it?

Mr. Gundam · « **Reply #55 on:** November 12, 2009, 03:53:12 PM »

I totally get that that's what David is trying to do, but the whole self-importance thing is just too much for me.

Diunx · « **Reply #56 on:** November 12, 2009, 03:54:07 PM »

Quote from: Diunx on November 12, 2009, 03:51:05 PM

Curb is awesome, how can anyone not like it?

oh shit I just realize that this is a Seinfeld reference not a curb one

Don Flamenco · « **Reply #57 on:** November 12, 2009, 03:55:56 PM »

Quote from: Genghis Cohen on November 12, 2009, 03:51:22 PM

Quote from: distantmantra on November 12, 2009, 03:49:34 PM
Quote from: Genghis Cohen on November 12, 2009, 03:48:46 PM
There are a lot of people that don't like Curb Your Enthusiasm at all, mind you, and for good reason. It is very much a show for a select group of people.

It's funny, but I can barely get through an episode before I want to kill everyone in the cast.

people tend to say "white" and "jewish" as separate groups fyi.

what d'you mean?

BobFromPikeCreek · « **Reply #58 on:** November 12, 2009, 03:59:30 PM »

Quote from: distantmantra on November 12, 2009, 03:53:12 PM

I totally get that that's what David is trying to do, but the whole self-importance thing is just too much for me.

Depends on what episodes you watch though. In earlier ones his character is just completely oblivious to social etiquette, so he gets shit despite the fact that the majority of what he does is logical. In some of the episodes in the later seasons he's just being a straight up prick.

Both are pretty funny, but I can see how the latter would annoy some people.

Mr. Gundam · « **Reply #59 on:** November 12, 2009, 04:00:47 PM »

Quote from: BobFromPikeCreek on November 12, 2009, 03:59:30 PM

Quote from: distantmantra on November 12, 2009, 03:53:12 PM
I totally get that that's what David is trying to do, but the whole self-importance thing is just too much for me.

Depends on what episodes you watch though. In earlier ones his character is just completely oblivious to social etiquette, so he gets shit despite the fact that the majority of what he does is logical. In some of the episodes in the later seasons he's just being a straight up prick.

I don't get HBO (

), so the majority of what I see is when we're visiting my wife's parents in Nebraska. I think I've seen mostly later season prick episodes.

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