Anyone own the various PSPs after the first one?

[Bebpo]

So I've been using my hacked PSP-1000 forever with a modded d-pad and it's been great.
But the terrible screen full of GHOSTING dark/red colors has bothered me over the years in various degrees.  Now I'm playing LBP and the game is rad but the ghosting is making it a lot less fun and harder to follow/appreciate the art.  I am almost tempted to get a new PSP finally over BF through Xmas sales.

Now I'm not sure what to get.  I definitely don't want a GO because I like owning physical UMD copies of games.  Also, unlike Steam, I have zero faith that PSN/XBL/Wiionline games will still be supported and available in 10-20 years and I don't want to lose my paid for collection at some point.

So then, PSP-2000 or PSP-3000?  I know the 2000 can be hacked and that's a big pro, but if the 3000 screen is a good deal better and the load times "supposedly" faster, then I could stick to my 1000 when needed for "try" purposes and use the 3000 for the games I buy.  Note I HATE load times (and therefore love my hacked psp), so if the loads are still pretty bad on games these days on the 3000, that would be a big turn off.  But I really want a screen without ghosting   For LBP and Especially for the new KH and MGS.

What do the psp owners here recommend?

[GoofyGoober]

I am using a PSP-1000. I want a 3000 to run OFW, I was looking at the Wal-Mart $139. Bundle closeouts, but my WM is out of the HM bundle. I'm am not will to pay more then $150 for another PSP. The 3000 that they have as a demo in BB seems great enough for the games they typically have out. But I haven't played it for longer then 30 minutes on any given game.

I can't comment on the load times. I've been running the games from MS the whole time. I did get annoyed for the loading times from the BB Kiosk, but nothing that made me want to throw it.

[Sho Nuff]

Using a modded 2000. Best handheld ever -- can't find a reason to upgrade (especially because the 3000 isn't as hackable as the 2000....right?)

[bork]

You're used to having a hacked PSP and you hate load times.  The choice is clear-- CFW PSP 2000.  It will be major improvement over the 1000, plus there's TV-out.

[dark1x]

Buy a PSP3000.  Seriously, I own two of the 1000 models and I can't stand using them anymore.  The screen on the 3000 is infinitely superior.  MUCH higher contrast ratio, much faster response time, and superior color reproduction completely change the appearance of all PSP software.  Seriously, it's truly a night and day difference here.  The LCD refreshes faster than most PC LCDs I've used as of late even, so it's really pretty quick and shames the 1000 and 2000 screens (which are the same).  It also has TV out, though the 2000 does as well.

I wouldn't even hesitate.  I'm playing Little Big Planet and LocoRoco Midnight Carnival myself right now and, really, they look like absolutely dogshit on the 1000 and 2000 screens, but absolutely lovely on the 3000 (and I assume the Go as well).  Emulators also look killer on this screen.

Using a modded 2000. Best handheld ever -- can't find a reason to upgrade (especially because the 3000 isn't as hackable as the 2000....right?)

It's not as hackable, but you can use ChickHEN combined with some Gen hacks to get it running ALL homebrew and pirated games without any problems.  You can't permanently hack it, as in, turning the system off reverts the system to legit mode, however, that isn't bad at all (just keep it in sleep mode).

That's still a slight downside, however, as the 3000 hacks are usually released a tad later.  I had to wait an extra month to get full support back for the newest games (though they now work perfectly).

[bork]

Bebpo is going to see a major difference in image quality no matter which PSP he gets.  The PSP 2000's screen is still a leap up from the 1000. 

You need to keep the system in permanent sleep mode when not in use or you'll always need to reapply the cracks when you turn it off? That sounds like a major annoyance, no thanks. Plus aren't the screens in the 3000 series worse due to severe interlacing issues or has that been fixed yet?

Yup, the 3000 is not as fully hackable as the 1000 and 2000 are.  That's why I never got one.  The interlace issues are still there AFAIK; they "fixed" it with the PSP Go. CFW 2000 is the superior PSP overall.  If the screen concerns you more than CFW features and faster load times, sure, get the 3000.

[dark1x]

You need to keep the system in permanent sleep mode or you'll always need to reapply the cracks when you turn it off? That sounds like a major annoyance, no thanks. Plus aren't the screens in the 3000 series worse due to severe interlacing issues or has that been fixed yet?

It's not really a hassle at all.  Reapplying the crack is very quick and simple, really.  Besides, I've always just left my PSPs in sleep mode without any issues.  It's a minor hassle made worthwhile by the awesome screen.  Using the crack involves viewing an image which reboots the machine then running one program (which unlocks homebrew).  You don't need to visit any menus or anything, you just run the program and it brings you back to the XMB ready to go.  Takes all of 30 seconds.

Those interlacing complaints were COMPLETE BULLSHIT.  I don't know who the hell thought it was worth pointing something like that out, but it's a non-issue.  The screen is *MUCH* better in every way.  You won't see the so-called "interlace artifacts" on most content and, even if you do, it's much preferable to the god awful ghosting of the older screens.

As I said, I still have two PSP 1000s and I literally can't stand using them due to the poor quality screens.

The PSP 2000's screen is still a leap up from the 1000.

That's a myth and not true.  I've directly compared all three units running side by side.  The 1000 and 2000 screens looks 100% the same.  They have the same SLOW response time and poor contrast ratio.

If the screen concerns you more than CFW features and faster load times, sure, get the 3000.

That doesn't make any sense.  ALL CFW features are available on the 3000 right now.  I can play all new releases and use all apps from the memstick without any problems.  Little Big Planet, GTA, Gran Turismo, Jak and Daxter, etc. all run without a hitch from the memstick.

[bork]

I still have a 1000 too.  I agree on the screen being the worst, but the 2000's screen is great.  The 3000's is better, and the Go's, while smaller, is the best.  But I'll still take a CFW 2000 over the semi-CFW 3000.  The problem Bebpo might have is finding any of those hackable systems new or in good shape used.

[bork]

The PSP 2000's screen is still a leap up from the 1000.

That's a myth and not true.  I've directly compared all three units running side by side.  The 1000 and 2000 screens looks 100% the same.  They have the same SLOW response time and poor contrast ratio.

The 2000 screen is better than the 1000 screen.  The colors are brighter, too.  I don't know how you can say that. 

[Himu]

Hacked 2000 is the best handheld ever

and yes, I used to have a hacked 1000

[bork]

Hacked 2000 is the best handheld ever

and yes, I used to have a hacked 1000

Hacked 2000

[bork]

You need to keep the system in permanent sleep mode or you'll always need to reapply the cracks when you turn it off? That sounds like a major annoyance, no thanks. Plus aren't the screens in the 3000 series worse due to severe interlacing issues or has that been fixed yet?

It's not really a hassle at all.  Reapplying the crack is very quick and simple, really.  Besides, I've always just left my PSPs in sleep mode without any issues.  It's a minor hassle made worthwhile by the awesome screen.  Using the crack involves viewing an image which reboots the machine then running one program (which unlocks homebrew).  You don't need to visit any menus or anything, you just run the program and it brings you back to the XMB ready to go.  Takes all of 30 seconds.

Hmmm, that's not so bad. Thanks for the info.

Please correct me if I'm wrong, but IIRC not everything you can do with CFW will work on CFW 3000s.

[dark1x]

Please correct me if I'm wrong, but IIRC not everything you can do with CFW will work on CFW 3000s.

Such as?  There hasn't been anything I could not do with the 3000.  The ONLY hitch I've encountered is a slightly longer wait to run the newest games (the CFW update wasn't released as quickly).  I've used emulators, games (even the latest), various apps, ADHOC play, etc.  I've played lots of wireless multiplayer games with friends using PSP1000 and 2000 units as well without any issues.

The 2000 screen is better than the 1000 screen.  The colors are brighter, too.  I don't know how you can say that.

Eh, I really didn't see that at all.  The 2000 my friend has looks exactly the same as my 1000.  It's just as slow (poor response time) and has a low contrast ratio (black levels are poor - very bright when displaying black).  The 3000 can display much richer colors.  Darker games look really good.  Silent Hill, for instance, looks properly dark on the 3000 while it was washed out on the 1000 and 2000.

If there are any improvements to the 2000 screen, they are very minor in comparison to the rift between the 2000 and 3000 screen.  The difference is enormous. 

[Bebpo]

I haven't turned off my PSP in over 2 years.  I just leave it in sleep mode.  So that doesn't sound bad.

The 3000 is really tempting.  I'd love a good screen for PSP games since they can look pretty nice!  In terms of this temp hack stuff, does it work on all 3000 models or only specific older models?  Cause if I get a 3000 I'm just going to find a new one on-sale somewhere and buy it and it'll probably be the latest model.

Thanks for all the great info dark1x

[dark1x]

From what I can tell, it should work with all 3000 models and is also necessary for some of the late 2000 models.  I suppose the latest official firmware might pose a problem, however, so that's something to look at.  No idea what 3000s ship with now.

What I'm curious about is whether the PSP Go will support CFW in this way.

[Bebpo]

Do you have to pandora it to get it started?

Hmmmm, I wonder when the 3000s start coming with the latest firmware.  What firmware do you have to be earlier than to get started on the hacking of the 3000?

[maxy]

I have PSP 3004 and the screen is really great.

If you want to hack it,firmware on it has to be exactly 5.03.
Higher firmware is no no.

Lower firmware is fine,since you can upgrade it.
When i was buying it,i asked some store drone to put battery in,to check the firmware.

Hacking is easy,i literally followed some youtube tutorial,5 min work.

No Pandora,you just make some folders on your PSP and copy some stuff.


 

[Bebpo]

Damn, 5.03 is soooooo long ago.  I have a feeling this will be difficult to find. 

Might be back to my original question then if the 3000 non-hacked is still worth it over a 2000-hacked.

[bork]

Damn, 5.03 is soooooo long ago.  I have a feeling this will be difficult to find. 

Might be back to my original question then if the 3000 non-hacked is still worth it over a 2000-hacked.

You're pretty much going to have to find it online, and perhaps be prepared to pay more than usual.  IIRC the God Of War PSP pack was the last 3000 bundle with a hackable PSP 3000.  You really should check the GAF thread for this; there's knowledgeable people in there like Meijilan who can answer all your questions.

Please correct me if I'm wrong, but IIRC not everything you can do with CFW will work on CFW 3000s.

Such as?  There hasn't been anything I could not do with the 3000.  The ONLY hitch I've encountered is a slightly longer wait to run the newest games (the CFW update wasn't released as quickly).  I've used emulators, games (even the latest), various apps, ADHOC play, etc.  I've played lots of wireless multiplayer games with friends using PSP1000 and 2000 units as well without any issues.

I don't know the details, since I don't have a 3000, but I remember reading this.  Maybe things have changed.

Eh, I really didn't see that at all.  The 2000 my friend has looks exactly the same as my 1000.  It's just as slow (poor response time) and has a low contrast ratio (black levels are poor - very bright when displaying black).  The 3000 can display much richer colors.  Darker games look really good.  Silent Hill, for instance, looks properly dark on the 3000 while it was washed out on the 1000 and 2000.

No way.  I mean, the 3000 screen is definitely much better, but the difference between the 2000 and 1000 screens is extremely noticeable.  1000 is the absolute worst, 2000 is good, 3000 is great, and Go is the best.

If there are any improvements to the 2000 screen, they are very minor in comparison to the rift between the 2000 and 3000 screen.  The difference is enormous. 

Okay, sure.  But the 2000 screen does the job nicely.  I will stick with my CFW 2000 unless the Go gets hacked or a hackable 4000 comes along.  I don't see the point in getting a 3000 when CFW is still better on the 2000 series.

If I want the best picture possible, I just hook up my PSP to my TV anyway.

[Bebpo]

Damn, the ratchet & gow psp3000 bundles go for $230-250.  I'm not going to spend that kind of money.

At this point I'm thinking I should just pay $130-150 and get a unhackable PSP-3000 to compliment my hacked PSP-1000.  If a game has really bad load times & no data install option, I'll play it on the 1000.

[bork]

Damn, the ratchet & gow psp3000 bundles go for $230-250.  I'm not going to spend that kind of money.

At this point I'm thinking I should just pay $130-150 and get a unhackable PSP-3000 to compliment my hacked PSP-1000.  If a game has really bad load times & no data install option, I'll play it on the 1000.

Definitely the cheapest way to go.  Do you usually play at 333mhz speed?  If so, that will also make a difference to how smoothly some games play.  The games with data install work great.  When I was playing Soul Calibur BD on my 1000 before a way to play it on CFW came out, it played just like I was playing it off a memory stick.

[Mr. Gundam]

I have the PSP "Lite" 2000 model. Never bothered hacking it, but it would probably be really cool.

[OptimoPeach]

Someone let me know if SNES emulation ever improves

[bork]

Wasn't there some new SNES emu that came out that fixed a ton of issues and made a plot of the problem titles 100% or close to 100% playable?

I have the PSP "Lite" 2000 model. Never bothered hacking it, but it would probably be really cool.

CFW is the only way to play PSP!

[OptimoPeach]

Wasn't there some new SNES emu that came out that fixed a ton of issues and made a plot of the problem titles 100% or close to 100% playable?

Wow, you might be right. I found this digging around at gbatemp: http://pspslimhacks.com/snes-emulator-snes9x-euphoria-r2-1/ Is that the one you were thinking of?

Has anyone here used it? I can't find much feedback other than the comments on that page

[Van Cruncheon]

You need to keep the system in permanent sleep mode or you'll always need to reapply the cracks when you turn it off? That sounds like a major annoyance, no thanks. Plus aren't the screens in the 3000 series worse due to severe interlacing issues or has that been fixed yet?

It's not really a hassle at all.  Reapplying the crack is very quick and simple, really.  Besides, I've always just left my PSPs in sleep mode without any issues.  It's a minor hassle made worthwhile by the awesome screen.  Using the crack involves viewing an image which reboots the machine then running one program (which unlocks homebrew).  You don't need to visit any menus or anything, you just run the program and it brings you back to the XMB ready to go.  Takes all of 30 seconds.

Those interlacing complaints were COMPLETE BULLSHIT.  I don't know who the hell thought it was worth pointing something like that out, but it's a non-issue.  The screen is *MUCH* better in every way.  You won't see the so-called "interlace artifacts" on most content and, even if you do, it's much preferable to the god awful ghosting of the older screens.

As I said, I still have two PSP 1000s and I literally can't stand using them due to the poor quality screens.

The PSP 2000's screen is still a leap up from the 1000.

That's a myth and not true.  I've directly compared all three units running side by side.  The 1000 and 2000 screens looks 100% the same.  They have the same SLOW response time and poor contrast ratio.

If the screen concerns you more than CFW features and faster load times, sure, get the 3000.

That doesn't make any sense.  ALL CFW features are available on the 3000 right now.  I can play all new releases and use all apps from the memstick without any problems.  Little Big Planet, GTA, Gran Turismo, Jak and Daxter, etc. all run without a hitch from the memstick.

all this. get the 3000. the interlacing complaints are largely garbage -- it's not an issue.

[Bebpo]

Groo, I'd be down to get a Go just for the novelty factor like having a Virtual Boy.  But I really don't want a digital collection in the hands of Sony.  I don't trust them enough to spend hundreds of dollars on PSP games over the next year(s) only to have to rebuy them in physical form at some point.

If only the Go had a UMD I'd be all over it.  I kind of wonder if that's how Sony will get over the Go failure.  Maybe GoV2 will have a UMD drive and be the PSP4000.  I'd buy that in an instant.

[bork]

Wasn't there some new SNES emu that came out that fixed a ton of issues and made a plot of the problem titles 100% or close to 100% playable?

Wow, you might be right. I found this digging around at gbatemp: http://pspslimhacks.com/snes-emulator-snes9x-euphoria-r2-1/ Is that the one you were thinking of?

Has anyone here used it? I can't find much feedback other than the comments on that page

I haven't tried it yet.  I tend to just play the Genesis, Neo-Geo, and CPS1/2 emulators.

Groo, I'd be down to get a Go just for the novelty factor like having a Virtual Boy.  But I really don't want a digital collection in the hands of Sony.  I don't trust them enough to spend hundreds of dollars on PSP games over the next year(s) only to have to rebuy them in physical form at some point.

If only the Go had a UMD I'd be all over it.  I kind of wonder if that's how Sony will get over the Go failure.  Maybe GoV2 will have a UMD drive and be the PSP4000.  I'd buy that in an instant.

You also import PSP games, right?  It would be a real pain the ass to switch back and forth between Japanese and American accounts, since you can only have one at a time on PSP and it has to be verified in a wi-fi spot.

Still hack the PSP Go and I will likely buy one.  Even at the 3000 level.  Then it's all problems solved!

[iconoclast]

Is the PSP 2000 d-pad really that much better? I still have a launch PSP 1000 and it has the worst d-pad I've ever used in my life. Street Fighter Alpha 3 is straight up unplayable on it. Not to mention the horrible ghosting. I should probably upgrade too.

[bork]

Is the PSP 2000 d-pad really that much better? I still have a launch PSP 1000 and it has the worst d-pad I've ever used in my life. Street Fighter Alpha 3 is straight up unplayable on it. Not to mention the horrible ghosting. I should probably upgrade too.

All the later PSP model d-pads are better.   

Did you ever mess with the input settings on Alpha 3?  It helps.  Also there's that d-pad attachment thingy.  I never had a problem with fighters on PSP, even the 1000 mode, though.  Just forced myself to get used to it.  I was even able to play CvS2 on Game Cube using a standard controller back then.  Now, not so much...I tried playing it again recently and couldn't do shit with that GC d-pad.   

[iconoclast]

Nah, I never touched any input settings. I should probably give that a shot. I don't see myself getting used to that d-pad though. I mean, I can do every hard trial in SF4 with a 360 pad if I must, but even doing simple moves in SFA3 is a nightmare. Honestly I wouldn't be surprised if my d-pad was partially broken or something.

[bork]

Nah, I never touched any input settings. I should probably give that a shot. I don't see myself getting used to that d-pad though. I mean, I can do every hard trial in SF4 with a 360 pad if I must, but even doing simple moves in SFA3 is a nightmare. Honestly I wouldn't be surprised if my d-pad was partially broken or something.

You gotta be able to use the PSP 1000 d-pad then!   

[dark1x]

Someone let me know if SNES emulation ever improves

It has improved.  It's still the worst of the bunch, but many games are totally playable at 60 fps with vsync.  Oddly enough, Gameboy Advance emulation is much better and nearly perfect (though a few games still drop some frames).  Genesis, TG16, NES, CPS2, and a number of others are all virtually perfect.

[Beezy]

I was happy with what I saw in this thread up until this:

If you want to hack it,firmware on it has to be exactly 5.03.
Higher firmware is no no.

not cool

[Purple Filth]

Hacked 2000 here.

Very Awesome

[dark1x]

What about this...

Has anyone determined if it's possible to transplant the PSP3000 screen into a PSP2000?  Obviously that isn't cost effective, but it would be one way to get a 2000 without sacrificing the high quality screen.

[Bebpo]

Amazon's deal for today is
PSP-3000 + GTA Chinatown Wars (or Dissidia, but I own that already) for $169.99.

Hmmm....tempting.  Don't really want GTA that much.  Wish I could find a good deal on just the PSP-3000 itself.  Hmm...BF is only 6 days away.