Author Topic: Medal of Honor Reboot (Read 11929 times)

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #120 on:** August 10, 2010, 11:34:38 AM »

On the real tip I get why your personal taste is more towards this rather than something like BC 2. Its like the arcade version of BC 2. Nothing wrong with favoring that approach. I'm probably also in that boat in a general sense. The problem is it loses all the other stuff that makes Bad Company awesome on the MP side.

demi · « **Reply #121 on:** August 10, 2010, 11:36:00 AM »

Like what?

Exploding buildings? Not required

Open world? Yawn

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #122 on:** August 10, 2010, 11:38:45 AM »

Quote from: demi on August 10, 2010, 11:36:00 AM

Like what?

Exploding buildings? Not required

Open world? Yawn

Pretty much. But I've already expressed my opinion on all that stuff in threads over here and on GAF. I'll back it down as I don't like to sort of have a vendetta against a game. I hope they improve a lot of the stuff before release and supposedly that beta was an old build although I'm always skeptical when that is the defense for something. I like Dice. I hope they turn that beta around into something I want to play. I'm always down for another good shooter.

demi · « **Reply #123 on:** August 10, 2010, 11:44:07 AM »

After all the shit talking I read, I was expecting to come back with a face full of herpes and an anus full of aids after playing it. In fact I was really surprised.

I liked:

- How kill streaks work (you get a choice of either a mortar strike or a UAV)
- How kill streaks apply (It adds up the points you get from kills, rather than 3 kill streak, 4 kill streak, etc)
- American soldiers saying FUCK a lot

The full version needs the following:

- XP meter to know when you unlock something or level up
- "User" has connected/left
- A way to know if you killed the guy who killed you at the same time
- Better graphic for the point popups from kills (looks like a stretched out JPEG)

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #124 on:** August 10, 2010, 11:50:31 AM »

There are about a couple of dozen "little" things that I found missing in that beta that some of the more polished shooters have. But I assume (hope) a lot of that stuff is simple bug fixes or things that hadn't been applied yet.

On the higher level, I need a real reason to play it. I need a reason why I'm going to play this over Black Ops or Bad Company Vietnam or Reach, or even the games I'm playing now. Online shooters are the only genre I'm into hardcore so when one game replaces another which for me will be hundreds of hours, it needs a reason to push something else out. Despite all the little technical issues I had with the beta that was the real over-riding problem I felt. I just couldn't understand why I would play it over other titles. At best it felt average. And average isn't enough in that genre for me. And to take another game like Transformers MP, some people might also consider that average. But at least its different and unique in some areas. Same with Monday Night Combat also maybe which I plan to pick up. Medal of Honor MP has to stand out somewhere for it to be worth it to me.

drew · « **Reply #125 on:** August 10, 2010, 01:25:14 PM »

just checked xbl and i dont see anything about a demo, is there any way to get in without preordering?

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #126 on:** August 10, 2010, 01:30:19 PM »

Quote from: drew on August 10, 2010, 01:25:14 PM

just checked xbl and i dont see anything about a demo, is there any way to get in without preordering?

It's over on the 360 anyway. Ended like Sunday or Monday.

demi · « **Reply #127 on:** August 10, 2010, 01:44:33 PM »

Was going strong last night. You don't have to pre-order. There's tons of sites out there giving out codes.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #128 on:** August 10, 2010, 01:51:25 PM »

Quote from: demi on August 10, 2010, 01:44:33 PM

Was going strong last night. You don't have to pre-order. There's tons of sites out there giving out codes.

Maybe they extended it or something but it was definitely suppose to end relatively soon.

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The #MOH Xbox 360 beta ends tonight at midnight PDT, so make sure you get your game on!
about 23 hours ago via TweetDeck

drew · « **Reply #129 on:** August 10, 2010, 01:59:51 PM »

links pretty please

i finally fucking figured out why i didnt know about the beta - i was up in michigan @ the family cottage for 2 weeks with no internet

fuck my fucking life

drew · « **Reply #130 on:** August 10, 2010, 03:12:15 PM »

looks like you couldnt even redeem a key if i had one on that beta web page anymore, oh well, i cant believe i missed this. FMFL.

demi · « **Reply #131 on:** August 10, 2010, 03:13:29 PM »

You sure you are doing it right? Daddy slime redeemed a key just two days ago.

drew · « **Reply #132 on:** August 10, 2010, 03:15:27 PM »

and i quote

Quote

Hey Everyone,

The Medal of Honor Xbox 360 beta has concluded as of 12:00AM PDT on Monday, August 9th. We would like to thank all of you for participating. Please visit the forums and leave us your beta feedback.

http://www.medalofhonor.com/beta

demi · « **Reply #133 on:** August 10, 2010, 03:16:49 PM »

Pwnt, enjoy your wait

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #134 on:** August 27, 2010, 06:32:26 PM »

[youtube=560,345][/youtube]

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #135 on:** August 27, 2010, 07:15:31 PM »

Quote from: Green Man on August 27, 2010, 07:09:37 PM

So, are they doing the Battlefield thing of picking up kits? That's okay but I'd like to just pick up weapons and know what they are before I do.

I think they are just showing it off because you couldn't do it in the beta. But yeah I would prefer to know the actual weapon rather than the kit also. Honestly this isn't very much of a classed based game compared to Bad Company so they shouldn't really stick so hard to that concept probably.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #136 on:** August 27, 2010, 07:29:07 PM »

Quote from: Green Man on August 27, 2010, 07:23:01 PM

Quote from: Stoney Mason on August 27, 2010, 07:15:31 PM
Quote from: Green Man on August 27, 2010, 07:09:37 PM
So, are they doing the Battlefield thing of picking up kits? That's okay but I'd like to just pick up weapons and know what they are before I do.

I think they are just showing it off because you couldn't do it in the beta. But yeah I would prefer to know the actual weapon rather than the kit also.

Was that the case? I didn't play a lot of it since I didn't like it. Folks said that you had to hit rank 5 or whatever to pick up weapons but I was never sure if that was in the beta or not. Picking up kits made sense in Bad Company but in Medal of Honor, I never felt the game was too class oriented which is why I think they should let you pick up a weapon and tell you what it is, rather than making you pick up a full kit or just having generic tiles like "Sniper Primary" or "Rifleman Primary".

I don't believe you could pick them up but either way its fixed now. But yeah ultimately I agree. I think they are still trying to cling to the idea of a strongly delineated classed based setup but it doesn't really fit this style of game imo as the classes don't really have much secondary uses outside of the specific gun they are carrying.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #137 on:** September 02, 2010, 10:45:02 AM »

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Stoney Mason · « **Reply #138 on:** September 09, 2010, 01:56:20 PM »

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Stoney Mason · « **Reply #139 on:** September 09, 2010, 02:00:33 PM »

Quote from: Green Man on September 09, 2010, 01:58:20 PM

I like what I'm seeing but I don't like what I'm seeing. It's weird.

I'm still in the same camp I've always been in. It looks exactly like MW 2 but with the BC engine (without destruction)

So I still don't see a reason to play it on the MP side. But whatever. I'll rent it when it comes out hopefully

duckman2000 · « **Reply #140 on:** September 13, 2010, 02:43:03 PM »

So, an advanced mod/map pack then? Seems like that would be appealing to MW2 players, but hey.

I'm having problems with this game. I've always liked the idea of separate development teams since SP always seems to get the shit hand, but this is an exaggerated example. If the SP is the hot stuff that it should be then that is alright, but I could use a decent MP game as well.

demi · « **Reply #141 on:** September 16, 2010, 09:24:28 PM »

http://www.xbox360achievements.org/game/medal-of-honor/achievements/

Sho Nuff · « **Reply #142 on:** September 16, 2010, 09:30:58 PM »

I'm so confused. WHAT engine is this using, exactly?

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #143 on:** September 16, 2010, 11:39:10 PM »

Quote from: Sho Nuff on September 16, 2010, 09:30:58 PM

I'm so confused. WHAT engine is this using, exactly?

The sp uses the unreal engine. The Mp uses the frostbite engine.

Yeah its a very weird situation...

The SP is supposed to run at 60 frames. The mp wil run at 30 fps.

Yeah its a very weird situation...

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #144 on:** September 24, 2010, 01:36:34 PM »

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Stoney Mason · « **Reply #145 on:** October 01, 2010, 01:20:22 PM »

PC open "beta"

http://www.medalofhonor.com/pcopenbeta

cool breeze · « **Reply #146 on:** October 01, 2010, 01:31:00 PM »

they also are now calling the Taliban "opposing forces" because of some outrage or something. you're still americans shooting arabs in afghanistan, just the name is different.

drew · « **Reply #147 on:** October 01, 2010, 03:08:17 PM »

thats ridiculous

THEY ARE THE ENEMY

IN REAL LIFE

demi · « **Reply #148 on:** October 01, 2010, 03:26:37 PM »

taboo amerikkans strike again

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #149 on:** October 04, 2010, 07:52:28 AM »

The beta is up.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #150 on:** October 04, 2010, 08:06:58 AM »

I can't really speak to the quality as I don't play shooters enough on the PC nowadays to intelligently comment. It seemed average meaning it seems okay from the little I played but nothing that overly got me excited. When the 360 version comes in and I gamefly it, I'll comment there.

Runs pretty decent on my machine performance wise but the servers are unstable right now so you get kicked from games a lot.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #151 on:** October 04, 2010, 08:16:43 AM »

Quote from: Green Man on October 04, 2010, 08:11:07 AM

The multiplayer is a DICE C team effort. It's really mediocre and I don't get why all the sudden EA wants to stretch these guys so thin. It would have made more sense to get some outside dudes to help Danger Close do the MP themselves using UE3 because hey, the single player looks kick ass if the official videos are to be believed.

Frankly, I feel bad for everyone involved besides the executives. I'd be shocked if Danger Close doesn't see serious lay-offs or even a full closure.

I think they picked DICE because they know DICE gives them some hardcore cred in certain communities and the gaming press. Deservedly so of course although I agree this does seem like a C team effort overall.

I think the game will sell well. I mean it won't sell anything close to a COD game but EA already says its the most preordered MOH game of all time. Honestly the SP looks more interesting than the MP so maybe Danger Close should have been given full charge on both the SP and the MP in retrospect.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #152 on:** October 04, 2010, 08:33:36 AM »

Quote from: Green Man on October 04, 2010, 08:27:24 AM

There's been so much negative word of mouth about this game (rightfully so) that it's hard for me to believe this game would sell more than, the first Army of Two, for example. I think even EA realizes that Medal of Honor won't come close to Call of Duty, with their comments on that it'll take over CoD "eventually".

Well I think in the early days of the gen any old shit would sell which is why the first Army of Two did well and the second tanked. I think MOH will do like maybe 400 to 500k on 360 for the first month. Less but closer than expected on the PS3 since they have advertised a lot on that platform. Some on the PC of course. Overall I think it will do well. Just not spectacular would be my guess.

Here is a video if you want to see it btw

[youtube=560,345][/youtube]

archie4208 · « **Reply #153 on:** October 04, 2010, 01:28:37 PM »

Played the PC beta. Feels like a reskinned CoD4. I'll wait for Black Ops.

Howard Alan Treesong · « **Reply #154 on:** October 04, 2010, 03:17:24 PM »

they should have changed their name to the Talibadds

Don Flamenco · « **Reply #155 on:** October 04, 2010, 03:22:58 PM »

Seems like EA was ready to pimp this, then they remembered they have Infinity Ward working on their real COD-killer. This game is just so they get the requisite holiday season FPS out.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #156 on:** October 04, 2010, 03:37:47 PM »

The part that tickles me is nothing was changed. (Not that anything should have been changed of course)

All somebody did was go in and edit a text string in a file from "Taliban" to something else. It would be like changing the name of the Nazi's to the Razi's.

drew · « **Reply #157 on:** October 04, 2010, 04:18:53 PM »

actually it'd still be like changing nazis to opposing forces but i get your point

ManaByte · « **Reply #158 on:** October 08, 2010, 01:23:17 PM »

LOL @ complaining at campaign length in a FPS.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #159 on:** October 08, 2010, 02:17:40 PM »

Fuck. I forgot to send in a gamefly title so now I may not get it on release day.

WrikaWrek · « **Reply #160 on:** October 08, 2010, 02:47:39 PM »

Under 4 hours?

What the fuck. The team that worked on the SP worked ONLY on the SP for like 2 years or some shit, how is that possible?

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #161 on:** October 08, 2010, 02:51:20 PM »

The length doesn't especially bother me. Lots of games range from the 4 to 6 hour mark in length based on the difficulty. If you are buying these games for solely the SP in this day and age you aren't the target market and its not like this is a new thing.

cool breeze · « **Reply #162 on:** October 08, 2010, 03:44:47 PM »

I had no idea it was coming out. At least there is footage of Frontline HD now:

[youtube=560,345]1HvcqXd0cf8[/youtube]

They apparently did more to it than expected, like higher res textures and iron sights. I haven't played the PS2 version in a long time.

Eel O'Brian · « **Reply #163 on:** October 08, 2010, 04:24:55 PM »

that's why i'm buying it (please let it be on a separate disc so i can sell the reboot)

Eel O'Brian · « **Reply #164 on:** October 08, 2010, 04:30:07 PM »

fuuuuu wait a minute, have they said whether we'll be able to buy it on the psn store or not? i know it won't be on xbla because of size restrictions.

Eel O'Brian · « **Reply #165 on:** October 08, 2010, 04:31:53 PM »

also whoever is playing that is terrible

drew · « **Reply #166 on:** October 08, 2010, 04:40:21 PM »

holy shit i want that dashboard, how have i never heard of an xbox beta

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #167 on:** October 08, 2010, 04:45:20 PM »

Quote from: Green Man on October 08, 2010, 04:43:53 PM

Streaming dude just said the VIP code you get gives you MP access instead of like BC2 where the code gives you updates for free. Terrible idea.

So are you saying I need to actually buy the game otherwise I can't play MP? (or buy a MP access code) Because if that's the case then this goes right off of gamefly for me. Fuck that.

demi · « **Reply #168 on:** October 08, 2010, 04:51:36 PM »

Wow that is a bit silly. Game is gonna bomb. But I'll still play the SP anyway.

SantaC · « **Reply #169 on:** October 08, 2010, 04:52:08 PM »

why is MoH needed when there is CoD and Battlefield? Just can this series already.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #170 on:** October 08, 2010, 04:53:03 PM »

Quote from: Green Man on October 08, 2010, 04:50:28 PM

That's exactly what the dude said and It sounds right. Otherwise he wouldn't have to stop the stream to enter the code in order to show the MP.

Hmmm... that stinks.

But I think I remember hearing that you get a free rental week for the EA sports games if you rent or gamefly them so it may be worth it for me in that case although I need to look that up to verify. If its not the case then fuck it. I won't gamefly. If it is then its at least worth a week's rental for me.

I would have less of a problem with this if I knew the game was worth owning on the MP side but the beta on consoles was broken. I have no confidence in the final product if I can't even try it and there is no history to suggest I will like it.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #171 on:** October 08, 2010, 05:08:44 PM »

Quote from: Green Man on October 08, 2010, 05:06:38 PM

I sent a message to the MoH twitter account about it. Also, I'm not sure if BC2 VIP had a trial.

It did not. I also rented that from Gamefly. But at least you could try out the MP in general to see how it was even if I think all these VIP systems are bullshit.

I asked the question in the GAF MOH thread about the MP being locked up to see if anybody else knows anything.

duckman2000 · « **Reply #172 on:** October 08, 2010, 06:07:33 PM »

What, 4 hours? The fuck? Shitbin, for real. I'm usually not all that bothered by short games assuming that the quality of what's there is real high, but there's a fucking limit.

drew · « **Reply #173 on:** October 08, 2010, 06:16:59 PM »

Quote from: SantaC on October 08, 2010, 04:52:08 PM

why is MoH needed when there is CoD and Battlefield? Just can this series already.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #174 on:** October 12, 2010, 11:06:30 AM »

Reviews are up and about. They range from like 6's to the mid 8's.

I was late putting it in my gamefly queue so I didn't get it on the initial wave so now I'm over it. I'll play the sp on the PC and just pass on the game in general since it doesn't seem especially great or anything.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #175 on:** October 12, 2010, 11:19:48 AM »

You can't split the difference in development. You have to go all the way. So out modern warfare modernwarfare if you're copying modern warfare. Out Bad Company Bad Company if you are cloning Bad Company. Or have a truly original take would be your third option.

But what you can't do is sort of try to thread the needle to mimic two other game series because all people are going to realize is that its not as good as either of those other two series.

http://www.giantbomb.com/quick-look-medal-of-honor/17-3354/

Eel O'Brian · « **Reply #176 on:** October 12, 2010, 12:04:38 PM »

Quote from: Green Man on October 12, 2010, 11:15:17 AM

Also, MoH Frontline is on the disk. It's not a code.

Yeah, you have to install it, and it's over 4GB

If they sell it on PSN, they'll try to get $20 for it

It won't come to 360 unless MS changes their XBLA size limit, and they'd have to double it (it's 2 GB now)

Eel O'Brian · « **Reply #177 on:** October 12, 2010, 12:09:54 PM »

i can't believe they're trying to get $60 for the PC version

Eel O'Brian · « **Reply #178 on:** October 12, 2010, 12:13:28 PM »

i could see them releasing a disc version later on for $20 if MS doesn't loosen the size restrictions

this fucking thing is taking forever to install, btw

Eel O'Brian · « **Reply #179 on:** October 12, 2010, 12:21:13 PM »

also, that online access thing is bullshit, and the BF3 beta access has a disclaimer that it's only redeemable if the beta launches within 12 months (not a big deal to me, i couldn't care less about a console version of BF3)

you have to use your online code to get access to the beta, too

$60 PC version, online access codes, seems like they're actually going out of their way to make sure this game fails

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Author Topic: Medal of Honor Reboot (Read 11929 times)