Thread of Iron Man 2 Anti-Hype, Now w/ Real-Time Movie Discussion!

[Third]

I thought Superman Returns was better than Batman Begins. Dark Knight is better than both. And Iron Man is better than all of them.

[ManaByte]

I think Incredible Hulk was better than BB.

[WrikaWrek]

Spiderman 2 is the only close to perfect super hero movie we have.
 

This is about the only thing I've ever agreed with you on 

More than enough! We gotta keep it interesting.

[Diunx]

Incredible Hulk is better than Lee's Hulk, I don't get the hate.

[WrikaWrek]

Why would a bad film turn you off to reading what is widely considered a landmark graphic novel, and the only one one to ever win the Hugo Award? That's silly.

That's like me saying, "Man, I'm never going to read Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy after that mediocre, unfunny film adaptation!"

Regarding Watchmen.

Tried reading it, but then those animated and voiced videos of the graphic novel came out, like some sort of...audiobook or something, and i ended up seeing that instead. I thought it was amazing.

Then i watched the movie. Seeing Snyder's inability to adapt the graphic novel to the movie format was painful.

[Great Rumbler]

I thought Superman Returns was better than Batman Begins. Dark Knight is better than both. And Iron Man is better than all of them.

Iron Man's got Downey's great performance, but not much else aside from that. There story's not that great, the villains are campy, and there's only three short action scenes in the entire movie. I like it more than Superman Returns though.

[Cheebs]

This is getting hard to keep up with.    SOOOOO


ULTIMATE RANKING SHITZ OF ALL LIVE ACTION SUPER HERO MOVIES I'VE SEEN BASED ON COMICS AND WHATEVER I FEEL LIKE INCLUDING AS I RANDOMLY PUT THIS TOGETHER OR WHATEVER.
The Dark Knight
Batman Begins
Batman Returns
Superman
Batman '66
Batman
X-Men 2
Superman 2 (Richard Donner Cut, haven't seen the original since I was like 7)
Ninja Turtles
Spider-Man 2
Superman Returns
Iron Man
X-Men
Batman Forever
Batman & Robin (Yes Batman & Robin over a bunch of others, it is so terrible I kind of like it.)
Incredible Hulk
Ninja Turtles 2
Spider-Man
Hulk
Spider-Man 3
X-Men 3
Daredevil
Ninja Turtles 3
Wolverine



I am too lazy to put in the Hellboys and Fantastic Fours so fuck 'em.

[Great Rumbler]

[Cheebs]

I am curious how the critical reaction to this is going to be, critics loved the the first one.

[The Dark Shake 3000]

Why would a bad film turn you off to reading what is widely considered a landmark graphic novel, and the only one one to ever win the Hugo Award? That's silly.

That's like me saying, "Man, I'm never going to read Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy after that mediocre, unfunny film adaptation!"

The book is probably THE hallmark of comics, and one of my favorite pieces of fiction I've ever read. The movie is a forgettable, messy piece of empty fanwank. But that shouldn't stop people from checking out the source.

[Cheebs]

Hey. I've read Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy.

Too bad about the movie though because the cast was absolutely perfect.

[The Dark Shake 3000]

The Hitchhiker's movie wasn't so bad. I particularly liked that they went with Jim Henson puppets instead of ugly CG. That alone makes it at least admirable.

Plus, ya know, Sam Rockwell.

[Cheebs]

The Hitchhiker's movie wasn't so bad. I particularly liked that they went with Jim Henson puppets instead of ugly CG. That alone makes it at least admirable.

Plus, ya know, Sam Rockwell.

Yeah, the movie wasn't horrible. I loved Sam Rockwell in it. He was by far the best part. And the dude from the office was literally the only person who could play Arthur Dent. Same with Alan Rickman as the robot. No one else alive was more perfect then them.

And of course Jim Henson's puppets > cgi. 

[Great Rumbler]

The Hitchhiker's movie wasn't so bad. I particularly liked that they went with Jim Henson puppets instead of ugly CG. That alone makes it at least admirable.

Plus, ya know, Sam Rockwell.

Yeah, the movie was okay, but it felt like it rushed through a lot of things.

[The Dark Shake 3000]

As a Hitchhiker's film it was a bit disappointing, but it still works on its own fairly well. Whereas Watchmen pretty much just feels like a big, expensive ad for the book you either have already read or have no interest in reading.

[Raban]

Hey. I've read Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy.

Too bad about the movie though because the cast was absolutely perfect.

A lot of folks don't agree with me on this. Seriously, the only great thing about that movie was the amazing cast. They all worked so well together. Too bad the movie was kind of disappointing.

[Cheebs]

Yeah I agree its better than Watchmen. Not great, but watchable and decent. But such a great cast

I watched like half of it on tv a few months ago again, not half-bad. If the second book was ever made into a film I would have seen it.

Seriously name one person better suited to Zaphod not named Sam Rockwell, or Alan Rickman for Marvin, or the office dude for Arthurt Dent, or Zooey Deschanel for Trillian. There isn't anybody.

[The Dark Shake 3000]

I saw it like three times in theaters for some reason. I didn't even like it that much, I guess there just wasn't anything else out at the time.

[Cheebs]

I saw it like three times in theaters for some reason. I didn't even like it that much, I guess there just wasn't anything else out at the time.

More times than Avatar. 

[The Dark Shake 3000]

Early word I've been hearing coming out of screenings is that this film stinks. And that's from people who really dug the first one, too.

This is my shocked face

[Cheebs]

WELL WHAT ABOUT HARRY KNOWLES, HE LIKED IT.

[The Dark Shake 3000]

Harry Knowles is all-knowing and wise

He'll give a rave review if the theater he saw it at served his popcorn butter at a decent temperature

[Phoenix Dark]

TDK>>>>>>>>>>Spiderman 2

[Cheebs]

TDK>>>>>>>>>>Spiderman 2

That is a pretty common opinion sir.

[Diunx]

I hope that the Thor cameo at the end is true, speaking of Thor weren't the first official pics suppose to come out this month?

[ManaByte]

Thor stuff is probably being saved for Comic Con seeing as how they've just started filming it.

[ManaByte]

Bendis liked it:

the movie is a home run. you'll see. funny, exciting. like the dark knight its a full super hero meal but with fun loving tony.

[The Dark Shake 3000]

Wow, one of the main honchos at Marvel liked a Marvel production of a Marvel property? Must be a home run.

Fuck, even Edgar Wright struggled to find something nice to say about it. Film is a hot mess.

[Ichirou]

Robert Downey Jr's career is officially over.

[ManaByte]

Wow a director of a hipster comic book movie struggled to say something nice about a comic book movie that'll make 100x more money than Scott Pilgrim? I'm shocked.

[The Dark Shake 3000]

What does Iron Man 2 probably making more money than Scott Pilgrim have to do with anything? I doubt Wright's catching feelings about fucking Iron Man of all films

The fact that you used a Bendis quote is ridiculous though. That's like me quoting an executive at Warners saying Superman Returns was the best film of the 2006. It doesn't mean anything.

[Ichirou]

He's also going to direct Ant-Man, so it's to his benefit to stay in Marvel's good graces, and even then he had to struggle to say something good about the movie.

[The Dark Shake 3000]

Wright on Iron Man 2: "Well, Sam Rockwell was funny in it."

That's the best thing he could say about it. And Wright is hardly a film snob. Iron Man 2 is d.o.a. :tbslol

[Ichirou]

Fanboys peeing their pants in fear at the crapola that awaits them in theaters.

[WrikaWrek]

Where did Edgar Wright comment on Iron Man 2?

And why are you so happy about Iron Man 2 potentially being bad? Jesus christ, it's like you are wetting your pants 

[ManaByte]

Geoff Johns liked it. He has zero reason to kiss up to Marvel seeing as how he runs DC and Green Lantern is being filmed now.

[The Dark Shake 3000]

Because all the film's flaws from what I'm hearing -- cramming too much, rushing, losing focus on the character moments to push some Avengers bullshit -- is exactly what I've been saying Marvel would do to their films since the first one dropped. I'd like nothing more than for Marvel to pull this shit and turn off audiences, thus leading to less shitty super hero films cluttering up cinemas. Or at least it might force them to actually take their time and do them the right way.

But the reality is the film will probably make money and Marvel will get to continue their quest to make comic book movies as silly and shitty as the comics themselves have become. :'(

[Cormacaroni]

as the comics have BECOME?

[The Dark Shake 3000]

Yeah, that should probably read "have been". But these days especially with fucking "big earth-shattering events" and status quo shifts and retcons and what have you every couple weeks it seems especially apt.

[WrikaWrek]

Lol, Anime effect. Look, comic books didn't suddenly start to suck because of Marvel or DC. It just so happens you aren't twelve anymore, and certain stuff starts to lose its appeal.

Anime, Metal Gear Solid, Final Fantasy stories, Comic Books, etc


edit:

And its twitter. Seriously, how(?) do you manage to extract negativity from this:

Am not sure whether I'm allowed to tweet about Iron Man 2 or not. But this will not spoil anything...Sam Rockwell, once again, rocks.

When does Rockwell not deliver? He has a bundle of fun trying to steal Downey Jnr's thunder in this. Very funny.

We went to Iron Man w@BRIANMBENDIS n his daughter. Lots of fun. Favorite part was Black Widow. Totally got what is cool about her.

Iron Man 2 premiere tonight!! Very fun. I love War Machine. And it's always fun seeing @brubaker and @BRIANMBENDIS.

Seems like this crazy ass mess that Marvel has done with the characters has really ruined them.

[Cheebs]

Hollywood Reporter who loved the first didn't like it:

Well, that didn't take long. Everything fun and terrific about "Iron Man," a mere two years ago, has vanished with its sequel. In its place, "Iron Man 2" has substituted noise, confusion, multiple villains, irrelevant stunts and misguided story lines.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/film-reviews/iron-man-2-film-review-1004086551.story

Seems like most of the reviews coming out are negative so far. Ouch. Outside of the two AICN guys that is.

[WrikaWrek]

Really weird review, the first one is so great but the guy can barely tell you what was so great about the first one. Shit, he even compares the action, are you kidding me? Action in the 1st one was like the worst action ever in an action movie.

[The Fake Shemp]

Geoff Johns liked it. He has zero reason to kiss up to Marvel seeing as how he runs DC and Green Lantern is being filmed now.

That doesn't mean anything. People in the comic book industry are the last people I'd trust when it comes to their opinions on comic book film adaptations.

... sounds like this movie sucks. I called it!

[Diunx]

I really couldn't care less about the reviews complaining about the avengers stuff and to many characters and all that crap, being a comic book nerd the flaws of this film will probably cause me a geekgasm.

[Bloodwake]

I'm not surprised. I have zero hype for this film.

[The Fake Shemp]

I really couldn't care less about the reviews complaining about the avengers stuff and to many characters and all that crap, being a comic book nerd the flaws of this film will probably cause me a geekgasm.

Other films Diunx is amped for: Ghost Rider 2, X-Men: The New Class

[WrikaWrek]

Stop being such a wannabe snob.

[The Fake Shemp]

I like how not anticipating what is shaping up to be a steaming pile of crap makes someone a snob.

[WrikaWrek]

It's the internet.

 

[Cheebs]

Someone explain to me why Marvel thought doing to the super hero films what made comics become such a niche market thanks to endlessly complicated continuity and over-lap between series' confusing people and only pleasing the hardcore fans would be a smart move?

It has clearly turned off critics who praised the original.

[The Fake Shemp]

u mad?

[WrikaWrek]

Critics don't matter.

We are talking about a summer popcorn movie. Seriously, since when do critics matter? If Marvel goes home with the money, then they go home with the money.

[Cheebs]

Critics don't matter.

We are talking about a summer popcorn movie. Seriously, since when do critics matter? If Marvel goes home with the money, then they go home with the money.

Yes because Marvel making money is what matters, not if its a good movie.

[WrikaWrek]

You talked about Marvel...for them what matters is how much commercial success something can have, obviously.

As far as i'm concerned, i only want my super hero movies to be big, fun, action packed. That's the whole point of making a goddamn super hero movie, to me.

I loved Transformers for example. Hated transformers 2 though. So i hope this is more Transformers 1 like, than it is Transformers 2.

[Mandark]

Critics don't matter.

We are talking about a summer popcorn movie. Seriously, since when do critics matter? If Marvel goes home with the money, then they go home with the money.

Yes because Marvel making money is what matters, not if its a good movie.

You're the one who framed the question as whether it's a "smart move" by Marvel.

[Diunx]

I really couldn't care less about the reviews complaining about the avengers stuff and to many characters and all that crap, being a comic book nerd the flaws of this film will probably cause me a geekgasm.

Other films Diunx is amped for: Ghost Rider 2, X-Men: The New Class

[Great Rumbler]

Iron Man 2 will do $400 million easily. Doesn't matter how good or how bad it is.

[WrikaWrek]

Don't see the movie doing more than 700 million worldwide.

[Eric P]

they're really doing an xmen first class?

that's kind of cool

[The Fake Shemp]

they're really doing an xmen first class?

that's kind of cool

It will suck.