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Re: Thread of Iron Man 2 Anti-Hype
« Reply #1 on: December 03, 2009, 07:48:26 PM »
Movie will be meh

The first one is unwatchable the second time around. meh
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« Reply #2 on: December 03, 2009, 07:50:01 PM »
What is with you and hyperbole. "Unwatchable"?

Ugh. I'm going to ban you from the movies.
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« Reply #3 on: December 03, 2009, 07:52:30 PM »
I really hope it's good. Don't think it will be, but I want it to be good.
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« Reply #4 on: December 03, 2009, 07:53:45 PM »
Yeah, I think the odds are high that it could be a trainwreck.
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Re: Thread of Iron Man 2 Anti-Hype
« Reply #5 on: December 03, 2009, 07:54:15 PM »
I can't re-watch the first one at all!
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« Reply #6 on: December 03, 2009, 07:57:36 PM »
Yeah, I think the odds are high that it could be a trainwreck.

Maurice doesn't even see movies, so why bother?
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« Reply #7 on: December 03, 2009, 07:58:56 PM »
yea, this is a rental for me
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Re: Thread of Iron Man 2 Anti-Hype
« Reply #8 on: December 03, 2009, 08:16:44 PM »
Movie is  going to kick ass, wtf is wrong with you people?
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Re: Thread of Iron Man 2 Anti-Hype
« Reply #9 on: December 03, 2009, 08:21:35 PM »
The first one was really overrated.

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« Reply #10 on: December 03, 2009, 08:38:45 PM »
Movie is  going to kick ass, wtf is wrong with you people?

Says the man with the Deadpool avatar. Dude's been milked to death by Marvel and the fanboys are completely oblivious.
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« Reply #11 on: December 03, 2009, 08:39:21 PM »
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Re: Thread of Iron Man 2 Anti-Hype
« Reply #12 on: December 03, 2009, 08:44:54 PM »
I know he is being milked I just don't care because all his monthly tittles have been great so far.
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« Reply #13 on: December 03, 2009, 08:47:00 PM »
It reminds me of the Ghost Rider milking of the early 90s, yet the fanboys don't seem to notice.
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Re: Thread of Iron Man 2 Anti-Hype
« Reply #14 on: December 03, 2009, 09:14:27 PM »
I liked Iron Man, though it wasn't great, but I just don't feel much hype for the sequel at the moment.
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« Reply #15 on: December 03, 2009, 09:27:06 PM »
It reminds me of the Ghost Rider milking of the early 90s, yet the fanboys don't seem to notice.

Is this the world's biggest Gundam queer giving other people shit for things being milked?
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« Reply #16 on: December 03, 2009, 09:32:14 PM »
It reminds me of the Ghost Rider milking of the early 90s, yet the fanboys don't seem to notice.

Is this the world's biggest Gundam queer giving other people shit for things being milked?

 :lol

I don't really see the point in this sequel.  Why can't they just hurry up and make an Avengers/Ultimates franchise already?  It could be like GI Joe, but with even more asses in tight leather and no-name underwear models playing major characters.
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Re: Thread of Iron Man 2 Anti-Hype
« Reply #17 on: December 03, 2009, 09:43:04 PM »
The first one rocked my cock but I have no urge to see this.  It seems completely unnecessary.
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« Reply #18 on: December 03, 2009, 09:45:51 PM »
better than that transformers filth
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« Reply #19 on: December 04, 2009, 12:17:30 AM »
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« Reply #20 on: December 04, 2009, 12:20:20 AM »


I know that's not "evil Ironman", but the design is still pretty similar.

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« Reply #22 on: December 04, 2009, 12:43:07 AM »
I went into the first with nearly no expectations and ended up walking out afterwards pretty entertained.  I love Downy Jr. This, though, is probably gonna suck.
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« Reply #23 on: December 04, 2009, 12:53:38 AM »
It reminds me of the Ghost Rider milking of the early 90s, yet the fanboys don't seem to notice.

Is this the world's biggest Gundam queer giving other people shit for things being milked?

Yep!
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Re: Thread of Iron Man 2 Anti-Hype
« Reply #24 on: December 04, 2009, 01:06:12 AM »
There are quite a few strikes against this one, true. Willco is on the money.

The first one came out of nowhere; no-one thought it had a chance of being cool. This one has huge expectations to live up to, which usually means an over-inflated mess with a silly budget that tries to do far too much. All indications are that that is the case - too many new characters, too many villains, far too much fan service. It could well be headed for Spider-man 3 territory.

On the other hand, if they're smart and devote plenty of screentime to male power fantasies (i.e. Tony being awesome and banging Scarlet silly) it could still be awesome.  And Iron Man is pretty much the best LOOKING supercharacter in the movies. The suit looks convincing in a way the Hulk and Spider-man never will.

If I was in charge, I'd make the whole thing about Tony's descent into alcoholism, featuring him accidentally killing innocents and such, and eventual redemption. That's a straightforward 'power and responsibility' riff that anyone who has ever had a drink or driven a car or both can relate to. But instead I expect to see an over-produced wedding cake of a movie with 12 extraneous characters.
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« Reply #25 on: December 04, 2009, 01:16:42 AM »
What is with you and hyperbole. "Unwatchable"?

Ugh. I'm going to ban you from the movies.

You should set his username to "Black Shinobi".

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« Reply #26 on: December 04, 2009, 05:10:56 AM »
First one is the most overrated of all these comic book movies. Decent RDJ performance (but its no different than 5 other snarky performances hes given over the years), and everything else was mediocre to pure shit.

I expect this one will be the same. Crap, but met with a thunderous circle jerk.

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« Reply #27 on: December 04, 2009, 11:16:41 AM »
First one is the most overrated of all these comic book movies. Decent RDJ performance (but its no different than 5 other snarky performances hes given over the years), and everything else was mediocre to pure shit.

I expect this one will be the same. Crap, but met with a thunderous circle jerk.

All over your face boy SUCK IT DOWN! 

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« Reply #28 on: December 04, 2009, 11:31:40 AM »
Iron Man succeeded on account of Robert Downey Jr.'s humor and charisma. Take him out and there's really not much left. The action was sparse and truncated, the villains were over the top and border-line goofy, the story was fairly blunt [Self-absorbed guy makes weapons, weapons get sold to terrorists, guy decides to stop being self-absorbed and become a superhero].

It's still a fun movie, but not some amazing pinnacle of cinematic achievement.
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« Reply #29 on: December 04, 2009, 11:38:46 AM »
Iron Man succeeded on account of Robert Downey Jr.'s humor and charisma. Take him out and there's really not much left. The action was sparse and truncated, the villains were over the top and border-line goofy, the story was fairly blunt [Self-absorbed guy makes weapons, weapons get sold to terrorists, guy decides to stop being self-absorbed and become a superhero].

It's still a fun movie, but not some amazing pinnacle of cinematic achievement.
That's pretty much every superhero movie.

I think the only thing is that Iron Man rolled around in its own shit and the stink was spectacular.  It was a by the book superhero movie but did not try to be outrageously ambitious so it was hard to really fail.  But like PD said, that leaves little replay value.  I remember being pretty amazed when I saw it in theater.  Mostly amazed that it wasn't absolute crap, and then some delightful surprise here and there.  But its formula is so worn and unadventurous that it's hard to see it again. 

In short, Iron Man didn't do much, but what it did, it did well.  With it trying to be so much more this time around, there's so much more for it to fail at.

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« Reply #30 on: December 04, 2009, 11:40:39 AM »
Iron Man succeeded on account of Robert Downey Jr.'s humor and charisma. Take him out and there's really not much left. The action was sparse and truncated, the villains were over the top and border-line goofy, the story was fairly blunt [Self-absorbed guy makes weapons, weapons get sold to terrorists, guy decides to stop being self-absorbed and become a superhero].

It's still a fun movie, but not some amazing pinnacle of cinematic achievement.

This is a great description of the first film.
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« Reply #31 on: December 04, 2009, 11:56:02 AM »
Iron Man succeeded on account of Robert Downey Jr.'s humor and charisma. Take him out and there's really not much left. The action was sparse and truncated, the villains were over the top and border-line goofy, the story was fairly blunt [Self-absorbed guy makes weapons, weapons get sold to terrorists, guy decides to stop being self-absorbed and become a superhero].

It's still a fun movie, but not some amazing pinnacle of cinematic achievement.
That's pretty much every superhero movie.

That's more an indictment of the genre than praise for Iron Man.
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« Reply #32 on: December 04, 2009, 12:10:35 PM »
I loved it, but really Iron Man was a mediocre movie made exceptionally well, but apart from an alcoholism -> redemption arc, there's little other story to be told besides SOMEONE STEALS STARK'S TECH AND USES IT AGAINST HIM.

Though, if the movie succeeding in large part because of RDJ's awesomeness, that was not a fluke...they had the balls to cast him as a major action hero.

I think the closest similarities to IM is Xmen 1 - a movie that was better than it had any right to be, despite sometimes lackluster action. I don't see why IM2 can't top the first just the X2 did.
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« Reply #33 on: December 04, 2009, 12:14:56 PM »
The first one was fine. It was a good comic book movie in a genre filled with mostly shitty material. Because something was popular (and slightly over-praised) doesn't mean you need to backlash in the opposite direction every time and play the rebel.

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« Reply #34 on: December 04, 2009, 12:19:12 PM »
There are too many decent comic book adaptations nowadays to use the argument of "... but compared to MOST comic book adaptations it doesn't suck!" Compared to most everything from any genre, a good film will not suck in comparison, but sadly, Iron Man isn't very good.

It was a fun, light and ultimately forgettable movie. I don't think people are out of line in calling it mediocre.
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« Reply #35 on: December 04, 2009, 12:20:56 PM »
There are too many decent comic book adaptations nowadays

No.


There have been like 2 or three decent superhero movies in this last wave of superhero money milking that are decent. The rest are complete and utter shit.

Iron Man was one of those decent ones.

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« Reply #36 on: December 04, 2009, 12:21:03 PM »
too many decent comic book adaptations?  you're crazy, will.

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« Reply #37 on: December 04, 2009, 12:21:54 PM »
There have been like 2 or three decent superhero movies in this last wave of superhero money milking that are decent. The rest are complete and utter shit.

Personal opinion. Critical and audience consensus beg to differ.

... but if you honestly consider Iron Man to be a top of the heap, your perspective is skewed anyway.
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« Reply #38 on: December 04, 2009, 12:23:03 PM »
There have been like 2 or three decent superhero movies in this last wave of superhero money milking that are decent. The rest are complete and utter shit.

Personal opinion. Critical and audience consensus beg to differ.

... but if you honestly consider Iron Man to be a top of the heap, your perspective is skewed anyway.

Name these awesome comic book movies that are constanly coming out and explain how they are better than Iron Man. The genre is mostly shit. And because people often go see shit doesn't mean shit isn't shit.

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« Reply #39 on: December 04, 2009, 12:23:18 PM »
too many decent comic book adaptations?  you're crazy, will.

I could compile a list of 20 to 25 comic book adaptations, easily, that were at least entertaining.
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« Reply #40 on: December 04, 2009, 12:24:13 PM »
That's not fair though.  Way too many movies are entertaining in a "never again' sort of way.

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« Reply #41 on: December 04, 2009, 12:32:18 PM »
That's your personal opinion. I personally wouldn't put something completely forgettable on a list. And like I said, some of the this decade's more well-known comic book adaptations have been critical and commercial successes (see: Batman Begins, The Dark Knight, Spider-Man, Spider-Man 2, Sin City, etc.).

That's not including quieter genre films that are also comic book adaptations of the spandex-free variety, such as A History of Violence, American Splendor, Ghost World, Road to Perdition, etc. Scott Pilgrim also looks ace.

If you're going to narrow it down to a sub-genre of a sub-genre (namely the superhero), guess what, the pickings are going to be slimmer. And even then, Iron Man doesn't fall into the vicinity of the top ten release within the past ten years.

And if a sub-genre of a sub-genre can put out ten entertaining to legitimately good films within a decade, that's pretty fucking good. That's like saying, "Man, there aren't a ton of good ghost movies that involve haunted houses!"
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« Reply #42 on: December 04, 2009, 12:38:49 PM »
I'll drop this argument as its kind of pointless. My points are as follows.


1.) Superhero movies are inherently fairly limited and made to be milked until they can't be milked anymore.
2.) I'm talking about the ones where people dress up in tights and run around and fight evil. Not the ones that are comic book adaptions like GhostWorld because clearly those aren't the types of movies that are blockbusters or have big budgets for the most part or the ones that draw a lot of nerd worship.
3.) Iron Man was one of the few good ones. That alone is an accomplishment.
4.) Yes Iron Man was slightly over-rated. That is most likely because the genre is so shit when it comes to movies that people tend to orgasm and turn into annoying fanboys when they find one that isn't shit. (See the Batman movies as a perfect example)

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« Reply #43 on: December 04, 2009, 12:42:12 PM »
As stated, even if you were to narrow a list down to the ten best superhero films released this decade, Iron Man would still be outside looking in. It's no better than Superman Returns or X-Men.

I fail to see how that is much of an accomplishment.

... so now your argument is that the superhero flicks that are good are too overrated, so by default, the backlash against Iron Man makes it better than those films? ???
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« Reply #44 on: December 04, 2009, 12:46:48 PM »
If we're talking about purely comic adaptations (which I should have thought about more clearly when I posted) then I agree with your points.

But if we're talking specifically about superhero films and you're saying IM is no better than Superman Returns, then we just gotta agree to disagree. 

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« Reply #45 on: December 04, 2009, 12:48:11 PM »
... so now your argument is that the superhero flicks that are good are too overrated, so by default, the backlash against Iron Man makes it better than those films? ???

My argument is that you think there are a shitload of superhero movies better than Iron Man. And I don't agree. Mainly because most of those movies are shit or average movies period.

I liked Sin City better than Iron Man. I haven't seen the second Batman movie so I won't speak to that but the first wasn't leagues above Iron Man to me. There simply aren't a lot of great superhero movies. My argument isn't that Iron Man is fuck awesome. It's that most of the films for a fairly simple genre simply aren't better than it.

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« Reply #46 on: December 04, 2009, 12:49:33 PM »
And yes, I'd put Batman Begins, The Dark Knight, Spider-Man, Spider-Man 2, 300, Sin City, Hellboy, Unbreakable, X2: X-Men United and The Incredibles all over Iron Man. Even if you counter than 300 or Sin City shouldn't count (which I would dispute), then I'd still put an ambitious failure like Watchmen or Del Toro's woefully underrated Blade II over Iron Man. Hellboy II, as well.

None of them are bad films, and your mileage may vary depending on the source material, but all were critical and commercial success (save for Watchmen). So saying that Iron Man is one of a few good movies is pretty disingenuous, especially considering they were all released within the past ten years.

So Iron Man being "okay" is not much of an accomplishment.
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« Reply #47 on: December 04, 2009, 12:50:11 PM »
I'd put Superman Returns on about the same level as Iron Man, though slightly lower since Returns didn't have a really standout performance other than Routh doing a fairly good young Christopher Reeves impression. Villains are pretty similar too.
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« Reply #48 on: December 04, 2009, 12:53:31 PM »
I agree with Great Rumbler's assessment. Iron Man is a mediocre film, with pretty bland direction, propelled by Downey Jr.'s awesome performance. At least Superman Returns looks nice, even if it is stupid and boring.

... Stoney Mason, if your personal opinion is that you prefer Iron Man, then whatever. That's fine. Making a blanket statement that it is somehow better by virtue of the entire sub-genre being awful is pretty sketchy, and doesn't really jive with consensus. That's my point.

I mean, at least when Triumph spews hate at the entire genre, it's because we know he hates everything.
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« Reply #49 on: December 04, 2009, 12:55:58 PM »
And in retrospect, I think I might have actually enjoyed Norton's Hulk adaptation more than Iron Man, as well. Both were pretty "meh".
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« Reply #50 on: December 04, 2009, 12:56:49 PM »
And yes, I'd put Batman Begins, The Dark Knight, Spider-Man, Spider-Man 2, 300, Sin City, Hellboy, Unbreakable, X2: X-Men United and The Incredibles all over Iron Man. Even if you counter than 300 or Sin City shouldn't count (which I would dispute), then I'd still put an ambitious failure like Watchmen or Del Toro's woefully underrated Blade II over Iron Man. Hellboy II, as well.

Unbreakable. I don't consider it this sort of movie but for the sake of argument I will. Interesting movie. Incredibly flawed imo. Certainly popular among a certain niche.
300. Good popcorn movie. About on the same level as Iron Man to me.
Hellboy. Good comic book movie. Same level as Iron Man imo.
Sin City. Exceptional example of the comic book genre.
Spiderman 1. Shit.
Spiderman 2. Very good movie. I think in a way its the best pure comic book movie of this entire era
X Men 2. The first and the second are two average movies that for some reason comic book types think are exceptional.
Watchman/ Hellboy 2: Read the graphic novel for the watchman but haven't gotten around to seeing the movie yet.  Also haven't seen Hellboy 2 yet.

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« Reply #51 on: December 04, 2009, 12:59:06 PM »
... Stoney Mason, if your personal opinion is that you prefer Iron Man, then whatever. That's fine. Making a blanket statement that it is somehow better by virtue of the entire sub-genre being awful is pretty sketchy, and doesn't really jive with consensus. That's my point.

What consensus?

The consensus of the internet comic book afficenados?

The consensus of movie fans?

The consensus of the box office?

The consensus of Rotten Tomatoes?

The consensus of certain well respected critics?


Of course the argument is subjective. On both sides!

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« Reply #52 on: December 04, 2009, 01:08:57 PM »
I'll even add another. I think the first Blade movie is better than Iron Man. (or at least at the same level)

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« Reply #53 on: December 04, 2009, 01:10:33 PM »
So by your own admission, you only consider one film on my list to be "shit", which is completely subjective given it's popularity with audiences and critics. And X2 wasn't just popular with "comic book types", but pretty much everyone and was a critical success, as well.

(Although, I do agree the original is quite average - about the same quality of say, Jon Favreau's Iron Man?)

I guess that means there weren't as many poor "superhero" films to stack up against Iron Man as previously thought.

... And pretty much everything I listed was commercially (indicative of popularity with mainstream audiences, and to a smaller extent, the film/comic geek community) and critically successful. If that's not a general consensus, then I don't know what is.

Do not confuse that with me telling you what your opinion should be. Opinions are like cowboy hats. I don't like The Departed for instance, and my corner is a lonely one.
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« Reply #54 on: December 04, 2009, 01:16:02 PM »
@ Willco.

My argument is that of course I'm arguing from a subjective viewpoint. That's the only real way to argue this. We can't use something like Box Office. If that was the case then shit like Transformers or Spiderman 3 come into the equation.

And critical arguments only work if we agree to use the same critics and we both agree on the merits of said critics.

My point in internet arguments is to never to say "You are wrong" or say "I am right". Because there is no wrong or right on opinions. It's simply here is my perspective. And here is your perspective. And here is where we disagree or agree. No harm. No foul.

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« Reply #55 on: December 04, 2009, 01:21:49 PM »
I've only been referencing the professional critics from RT scores, most of which have been very generous to almost all of the films I have listed - save for a select few. Even then, I think only one not listed fresh by professional critics was 300. The rest received either rave or solid reviews.

I just find it interesting that you felt Iron Man was good, simply by virtue of not being bad in a sub-genre crowded with supposedly awful films. But as we tick down our boxes, we kind of come to an agreement that it's not better or worse than most of the middle-of-the-road comic book adaptations and there aren't as many awful adaptations released this decade as previously stated.
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« Reply #56 on: December 04, 2009, 01:27:33 PM »
I've only been referencing the professional critics from RT scores, most of which have been very generous to almost all of the films I have listed - save for a select few. Even then, I think only one not listed fresh by professional critics was 300. The rest received either rave or solid reviews.

I just find it interesting that you felt Iron Man was good, simply by virtue of not being bad in a sub-genre crowded with supposedly awful films. But as we tick down our boxes, we kind of come to an agreement that it's not better or worse than most of the middle-of-the-road comic book adaptations and there aren't as many awful adaptations released this decade as previously stated.

Ultimately the difference in our positions is that you feel there are more "good" comic book movies than I do. I would classify more of the ones you classify as "good" as "average". For example I think Unbreakable is an average movie. Iron Man nudges into the "good" category for me. There may be 5 or 6 others I classify as good also (Originally I said 2 or 3 so I admit to upping that number). And maybe only 2 or maybe 3 that immediately spring to mind as definitely better from what I've seen.

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« Reply #57 on: December 04, 2009, 02:27:03 PM »
this movie is going to fucking own,  the first one holds a special place in my heart as R.Downey Jr taught me how to eat pizza properly in that movie
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« Reply #58 on: December 04, 2009, 02:30:32 PM »
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Re: Thread of Iron Man 2 Anti-Hype
« Reply #59 on: December 04, 2009, 02:42:39 PM »
In the past couple years, Iron Man, Batman and Hellboy movies were the only ones that were actually good.  You can argue if Sin City, 300 or Watchmen count; of those three, I only really enjoyed parts of Sin City.  I may be forgetting a one or two.