Mass Effect 2 Thread

[cool breeze]

yeah, new game plus makes the game even harder.  So it's more insanity+, which would be the hardest you could play on.

are you doing a fresh insanity run or new game plus?

anyway, you'll grow into it.  Don't forget that by the end of your first run you most likely had all the health and weapon upgrades.  I'm late game in my second playthrough and it's pretty easy again (only hardcore...geth rifle is awesome, btw).

also, is overload that useful? warp seems to be just as good and serve more purposes.  I keep seeing that respec sounding option at the upgrade booth and might take away overload in favor of maxing out throw, warp, and warp ammo.

Overload is awesome Vs. Robots. Also, you can use it on Blood Pack Pyros and make them INSTANTLY BLOW UP. It rules.

I'll probably try both setups and see which is better.  I realized I'm not gonna have enough points to have anything else maxed.

[demi]

Insane isnt that hard! Come on man. ITS MEANT TO BE HARD!!!!!!!!!!!!!! YOU ARE THE CANCER

[GilloD]

yeah, new game plus makes the game even harder.  So it's more insanity+, which would be the hardest you could play on.

are you doing a fresh insanity run or new game plus?

anyway, you'll grow into it.  Don't forget that by the end of your first run you most likely had all the health and weapon upgrades.  I'm late game in my second playthrough and it's pretty easy again (only hardcore...geth rifle is awesome, btw).

also, is overload that useful? warp seems to be just as good and serve more purposes.  I keep seeing that respec sounding option at the upgrade booth and might take away overload in favor of maxing out throw, warp, and warp ammo.

Overload is awesome Vs. Robots. Also, you can use it on Blood Pack Pyros and make them INSTANTLY BLOW UP. It rules.

I'll probably try both setups and see which is better.  I realized I'm not gonna have enough points to have anything else maxed.

I wouldn't max overload. It's pretty situation specific, whereas Warp is ALWAYS usefull. But drop 2 points into it and it'll do it's job. Excepting shields, it's an instakill in a lot of situations (Pyros, Combat Drones), so dropping more points into it is sort of useless. And where its not insta (LOKI Mechs), you're pecking at Health, anyway, so it's just an ammo saver.

[Stoney Mason]

I'm not saying there is anything wrong with it being extremely hard. A level called insanity should be crazy hard. It may just be too hard for me so I may have to step it down to hardcore.

I want a challenge but if the challenge is too great for me then I need to find my proper level.


But like I said I'll give it more time and give it a legit try and respec myself and my team before I drop down to hardcore.

Some of the level 4 evolution choices I picked need to be changed to do more damage I think rather than cover a wider area.

[demi]

Also, Mass Effect 3 needs to straight up steal Gears cover. Why detach from a cover then have to run to a cover when I could just direct where I should transfer and seamlessly do it in one button press.

[cool breeze]

yeah, new game plus makes the game even harder.  So it's more insanity+, which would be the hardest you could play on.

are you doing a fresh insanity run or new game plus?

anyway, you'll grow into it.  Don't forget that by the end of your first run you most likely had all the health and weapon upgrades.  I'm late game in my second playthrough and it's pretty easy again (only hardcore...geth rifle is awesome, btw).

also, is overload that useful? warp seems to be just as good and serve more purposes.  I keep seeing that respec sounding option at the upgrade booth and might take away overload in favor of maxing out throw, warp, and warp ammo.

Overload is awesome Vs. Robots. Also, you can use it on Blood Pack Pyros and make them INSTANTLY BLOW UP. It rules.

I'll probably try both setups and see which is better.  I realized I'm not gonna have enough points to have anything else maxed.

I wouldn't max overload. It's pretty situation specific, whereas Warp is ALWAYS usefull. But drop 2 points into it and it'll do it's job. Excepting shields, it's an instakill in a lot of situations (Pyros, Combat Drones), so dropping more points into it is sort of useless. And where its not insta (LOKI Mechs), you're pecking at Health, anyway, so it's just an ammo saver.

yeah, I'll probably dump the left over points into it, which would put it at lvl 2.  Besides, I always keep Miranda around and I maxed her warp and overload.  She just can't pump them out as fast as me.

[The Fake Shemp]

This video shows why Erect 2 is so great. There's so much flavor and variety and flexibility.

"HEY, EVERYONE - THIS STORE DISCRIMINATES AGAINST THE POOR!"

[demi]

Even being a good guy makes you sound like a smartass in this game. No cheesy moralfag talk.

[Stoney Mason]

Even being a good guy makes you sound like a smartass in this game. No cheesy moralfag talk.

I was going to mention something like this...


While there is a pretty clear good or dick component to most of the situations, I love that the voice acting and the writing generally make being a good guy seem reasonable and cool rather than just being a boy scout.

This is one of those games where you can be the good guy but it doesn't always feel saccharine sweet.

[Great Rumbler]

This video shows why Erect 2 is so great. There's so much flavor and variety and flexibility.

[The Fake Shemp]

I can never bring myself to be a Renegade, but that kind of playthrough does look comical. I do like that Shepard was pretty badass in this installment even if you were Paragon.

That video also proves that Garrus rules all!

[Great Rumbler]

After watching that video, I'm definitely going to do a playthrough as a renegade. I'll probably just snag an ME1 save off the interwebs and go from there.

[cool breeze]

Even being a good guy makes you sound like a smartass in this game. No cheesy moralfag talk.

yeah, the reporter bit as a paragon is better because you shut her down hard with real talk.  It's just funny on renegade when you punch her in the face.

After watching that video, I'm definitely going to do a playthrough as a renegade. I'll probably just snag an ME1 save off the interwebs and go from there.

that's what I did.  I was lucky enough to find a female shepard with a name I liked and a near identical playthrough as my old male one.

playing as female hasn't had too many changes.  Notable moments were a turian asking for a three way with me and an asari stripper (punched him in the face too, btw) and the Garrus relationship.  Garrus is cool about the whole thing.  He tells you a story about how he had sex with some turian chick, then you suggest you two do the same, and he's just like "well you're the most respectable person in the universe, so if we can make it work, why not"

[The Fake Shemp]

You can punch the reporter in the face and still get Paragon points

[cool breeze]

That's not fair.  It's like getting renegade points for grabbing someone's arm to stop them from firing.

[Great Rumbler]

[AdmiralViscen]

I just found some shitty anomaly on a random planet and it made me insert disc 2. THAT is annoying. I figured they just had different dialogue on each disc, not whole planets and missions. Now I guess I have to switch back in 5 minutes to continue the main story.

As far as I can tell you can't back out and save it for later, either. Once the pop up comes up, you gotta switch.

[demi]

I've not had to switch back to Disc 1 yet.

[AdmiralViscen]

If I install both discs, will the game recognize that it is the same game ID and let me cross from content on one disc to another regardless of which one is in the tray?

[demi]

No, you still have to put the 2nd disc in, but you can install both games

[maxy]

I've not had to switch back to Disc 1 yet.

When you decide to take suicide mission,it will ask for disc 1.The point of no return...

If I install both discs, will the game recognize that it is the same game ID and let me cross from content on one disc to another regardless of which one is in the tray?

No,probably OS thing,MS should update that.

[fistfulofmetal]

downloading Mass1. gonna give it another chance.

[fistfulofmetal]

i wonder what they will do with Mass 3. I mean with ME1 they kind of hit the reset button at the end allowing them to have all new characters and stuff.
But that's not the case here with ME2. We have the established set of characters that are mostly all still alive. Are they gonna continue with this crew? Find a way to hit the reset button again?

I mean I wanna continue my relationship with Tali.

[Great Rumbler]

i wonder what they will do with Mass 3. I mean with ME1 they kind of hit the reset button at the end allowing them to have all new characters and stuff.
But that's not the case here with ME2. We have the established set of characters that are mostly all still alive. Are they gonna continue with this crew? Find a way to hit the reset button again?

It's not like the ending of ME1 lent itself to believing that they'd press the reset button in the sequel. I doubt they'll go the "Shepard dies and the crew separates" route again, but I imagine that they'll come up with some way to have new characters to add to your party.

[fistfulofmetal]

well i've never actually seen the ending of ME1... i assume the beginning of ME2 was the end of ME1.

[demi]

I'm pretty sure the game explicitly says "1 month after Mass Effect 1" at the very beginning

[fistfulofmetal]

must have missed it.

[maxy]

OH shit,just learned that if you

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don't go after collector ship immediately,you lose like half of your crew

[close]

Oh,well,returning 8 hours in the past and loading

[demi]

Yeah, that happens when you do the IFF mission. I'm trying to hit Level 30 before then. Level 23 right now

[AdmiralViscen]

Will i know when thats coming?

[fistfulofmetal]

Just don't go after the IFF.

[Howard Alan Treesong]

I had a really weird experience with the IFF mission:

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I never chose to go on it. I was travelling from my ship to the Quarian Flotilla, when suddenly ... everyone on my ship got on a shuttle? And my crew was kidnapped? And then everyone came back? And then I went to the Quarian Flotilla?

It made no sense at all. Is there a trigger that automatically starts the mission if certain conditions are (or are not) met?

[close]

[AdmiralViscen]

Ok, not sure i even know what that is yet.

I just did the colonist planet where you get the laser heavy weapon, and got the second batch of dossiers.

[demi]

Will i know when thats coming?

Yes, when they start saying IFF a lot of times

[demi]

I had a really weird experience with the IFF mission:

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I never chose to go on it. I was travelling from my ship to the Quarian Flotilla, when suddenly ... everyone on my ship got on a shuttle? And my crew was kidnapped? And then everyone came back? And then I went to the Quarian Flotilla?

It made no sense at all. Is there a trigger that automatically starts the mission if certain conditions are (or are not) met?

[close]

I dont know about that scene you experienced but the IFF is a story mission that cant be missed, Illusive Man calls you and discusses it after you do so many story and side missions. But you arent forced to go on it unlike Collector Ship

[maxy]

I had a really weird experience with the IFF mission:

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I never chose to go on it. I was travelling from my ship to the Quarian Flotilla, when suddenly ... everyone on my ship got on a shuttle? And my crew was kidnapped? And then everyone came back? And then I went to the Quarian Flotilla?

It made no sense at all. Is there a trigger that automatically starts the mission if certain conditions are (or are not) met?

[close]

Hmm,interesting,so you didn't have

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Legion,you get him after you finish IFF

[close]

You can do few extra missions after IFF,but then you have two way choice.

[Howard Alan Treesong]

No... Here's how the IFF Mission went down.

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I had Legion afterward, because I did go on the IFF mission. I just never CHOSE to go on the IFF mission. I was randomly forced into it in the middle of going to the Quarian Flotilla. Like, I picked the Quarian Flotilla, and then after the loading screen instead of the Flotilla I got a CG of my party members evacuating on a shuttle for indiscernable reasons, and then I played as Joker while the ship was under attack, and then I got the IFF. And then the IFF mission finished and I was still in the Quarian Flotilla system. It was totally weird and arbitrary.

I only had 3 people Loyal at the time. so of course I killed hours after the IFF mission - I guess my crew is just fucked unless I revert to a 10-hour-previous save.

[close]

[cool breeze]

For the Mass Effect 3 crew, I think it pretty much solves itself

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-Mordin was only there because he has research on the collectors
-Samara took an oath with Shepard for this one collector mission (different if you have Morinth)
-Zaeed's pay was covered by Cerberus and it was for this one mission
-Miranda is with Cerberus, Jacob too.
-Thane is dying
-Jack also had a fair trade of doing this collector mission for info on cerberus

Assuming Cerberus does cut ties with you in ME2, a lot of people would be gone.  Grunt, Legion, Tali, and Garrus are the ones there without any real catch.  Personally, I have a strong feeling that Garrus is going to die in ME3 because in ME2 he was kinda portrayed as a survivor, and that shit always runs out soon enough.

I also think Liara will return as a party member because you know there will be a Shadow Broker mission, or maybe the Renegade choice is to go with the Shadow Broker.  Maybe also the Rachni will also find some way to have a party member, maybe like how the collector leader took control of other people.

Of course this all changes depending on how ME2 ended and is just wild speculation.

[close]

[Great Rumbler]

No... Here's how the IFF Mission went down.

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I had Legion afterward, because I did go on the IFF mission. I just never CHOSE to go on the IFF mission. I was randomly forced into it in the middle of going to the Quarian Flotilla. Like, I picked the Quarian Flotilla, and then after the loading screen instead of the Flotilla I got a CG of my party members evacuating on a shuttle for indiscernable reasons, and then I played as Joker while the ship was under attack, and then I got the IFF. And then the IFF mission finished and I was still in the Quarian Flotilla system. It was totally weird and arbitrary.

I only had 3 people Loyal at the time. so of course I killed hours after the IFF mission - I guess my crew is just fucked unless I revert to a 10-hour-previous save.

[close]

The IFF mission triggers automatically shortly after you retrieve the IFF and get Legion on the ship. You can go on another mission or two, but then Joker cuts in when you try to open the galaxy map and gives you an update on the IFF.

A question about that segment:

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Is it possible for Shephard to stay on the ship or does the game force you to leave?

[close]

[Raban]

For the Mass Effect 3 crew, I think it pretty much solves itself

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-Mordin was only there because he has research on the collectors
-Samara took an oath with Shepard for this one collector mission (different if you have Morinth)
-Zaeed's pay was covered by Cerberus and it was for this one mission
-Miranda is with Cerberus, Jacob too.
-Thane is dying
-Jack also had a fair trade of doing this collector mission for info on cerberus

Assuming Cerberus does cut ties with you in ME2, a lot of people would be gone.  Grunt, Legion, Tali, and Garrus are the ones there without any real catch.  Personally, I have a strong feeling that Garrus is going to die in ME3 because in ME2 he was kinda portrayed as a survivor, and that shit always runs out soon enough.

I also think Liara will return as a party member because you know there will be a Shadow Broker mission, or maybe the Renegade choice is to go with the Shadow Broker.  Maybe also the Rachni will also find some way to have a party member, maybe like how the collector leader took control of other people.

Of course this all changes depending on how ME2 ended and is just wild speculation.

[close]

Something that interests me is that there's a lot more runoff at the end of the second game than the first. It was easy to ditch the entire crew for the second game, but now there are a lot of leftover crew members, each of whom where affected by your decisions in the game and such. The importing for the third game is going to be complex as fuck.

[The Fake Shemp]

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Can Garrus and Miranda even die in the game? If not, then those two will obviously be back.

[close]

[demi]

ME3 is going to be GALACTIC WAR

Anyone you helped will join you in the ranks - tons of hints dropped. Rachni, Wrex, Quarians.... etc

[demi]

Then Shepard sacrifices himself like Neo and everyone is happy

[fistfulofmetal]

Tali  better return

[Raban]

Tali  better return

Not in my ME3 campaign

[fistfulofmetal]

Not in my ME3 campaign

you're horrible. how could you do such a thing?

[Raban]

Not in my ME3 campaign

you're horrible. how could you do such a thing?

I purposely did it, too.

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She wouldn't shut up about how I sold her dead dad upriver. Fuck her.

[close]

It was my pleasure

[demi]

Yeah Tali is a whiney cunt. PLEASE SHEPARD DONT DO IT MY FAMILY WILL BE RUINED ;_;

[fistfulofmetal]

I don't appreciate you guys disrespecting my little beautiful Space Muslim.

[The Fake Shemp]

ME3 is going to be GALACTIC WAR

Anyone you helped will join you in the ranks - tons of hints dropped. Rachni, Wrex, Quarians.... etc

Yeah, I think this is pretty much where the series is going. Patel told me in IM that it would be awesome if you could cure the genophage in the third one, leading the way for Krogans to kick ass.

I think if you fucked over certain species (Geth, Rachni, Krogan, etc.) that you will be able to defeat the Reapers by being a martyr of sorts (you won't survive), but in order to live through the campaign, you will have needed to unite all the alien races against the Reapers. So if you flushed the Rachni queen in the first one, you die.

So many people would be pissed.

[Raban]

ME3 is going to be GALACTIC WAR

Anyone you helped will join you in the ranks - tons of hints dropped. Rachni, Wrex, Quarians.... etc

Yeah, I think this is pretty much where the series is going. Patel told me in IM that it would be awesome if you could cure the genophage in the third one, leading the way for Krogans to kick ass.

I think if you fucked over certain species (Geth, Rachni, Krogan, etc.) that you will be able to defeat the Reapers by being a martyr of sorts (you won't survive), but in order to live through the campaign, you will have needed to unite all the alien races against the Reapers. So if you flushed the Rachni queen in the first one, you die.

So many people would be pissed.

What kind of idiot would flush the Rachni queen? That shit was sad, I saved her.

[The Fake Shemp]

A lot of people did, if I recall.

I also think if you didn't save Wrex, the Krogan won't be able to unite to stop the Reapers, which will also hurt you in the end game.

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It'll be interesting to see how the choice whether or not to blow up the Collector base pans out. Maybe if you united all the species, but blow it up you still die? Maybe if you saved it, you somehow live to see Cerberus take over the galaxy?

I think regardless, the Illusive Man is being setup as the man "bad guy" in any potential spinoffs.

[close]

[Raban]

A lot of people did, if I recall.

I also think if you didn't save Wrex, the Krogan won't be able to unite to stop the Reapers, which will also hurt you in the end game.

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It'll be interesting to see how the choice whether or not to blow up the Collector base pans out. Maybe if you united all the species, but blow it up you still die? Maybe if you saved it, you somehow live to see Cerberus take over the galaxy?

I think regardless, the Illusive Man is being setup as the man "bad guy" in any potential spinoffs.

[close]

I think BioWare wants us to think that about the Illusive Man.

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I wanted to blow up the Collector ship so bad, but the crew I had with me suggested I shouldn't, so I didn't. I completely agree that you're going to have to unite the species to fight the Reapers, that's pretty damn obvious.

It would be tight if you could do a side-quest where you find the Illusive Man in his little room and just fucking kill him, cold-blooded. I would totally take the Renegade points if it meant killing that smug fuck.

[close]

[AdmiralViscen]

Can i fuck more than one woman in this game?

[demi]

Yes suh, I believe you can

[fistfulofmetal]

I was trying to bone both Tali and Jack but when I was moving in on Jack she was mentioning Tali. So I backed off because I didn't want to ruin what I had with Tali.

[AdmiralViscen]

[Raban]

I was trying to bone both Tali and Jack but when I was moving in on Jack she was mentioning Tali. So I backed off because I didn't want to ruin what I had with Tali.

You're such a vagina.

[cool breeze]

I think a different direction to take in ME3 is to have you not play as Shepard at all.  If it is about building a galactic army, it would be cool if it was like Dragon Age where you choose a race (with associated class) and began on the home planet, then eventually climb the command to fight alongside Shepard.  Basically like Dragon Age Origins.  That way they can cover any choices made in ME1 and ME2 without much difficulty.  I mean, considering one of the endings in ME2 is

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Shepard dying, this will allow them to continue to story.

[close]

Yes suh, I believe you can

they have mentioned that being unfaithful has consequences in the next game 

[Raban]

I think a different direction to take in ME3 is to have you not play as Shepard at all.  If it is about building a galactic army, it would be cool if it was like Dragon Age where you choose a race (with associated class) and began on the home planet, then eventually climb the command to fight alongside Shepard.  Basically like Dragon Age Origins.  That way they can cover any choices made in ME1 and ME2 without much difficulty.  I mean, considering one of the endings in ME2 is

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Shepard dying, this will allow them to continue to story.

[close]

Yes suh, I believe you can

they have mentioned that being unfaithful has consequences in the next game 

This is simultaneously the worst and best idea I've heard for ME3.