Author Topic: Silent Hill Wii (Read 5570 times)

demi · « **on:** December 09, 2009, 08:14:56 AM »

I didn't think it could be done, but we finally have a game that is worse than Silent Hill 4.

Holy. Fucking. Shit.

Third · « **Reply #1 on:** December 09, 2009, 08:18:37 AM »

Will play tonight.

Cravis · « **Reply #2 on:** December 09, 2009, 08:31:03 AM »

The Silent Hill series is pretty much dead. It needs a reinvention like Resident Evil 4.

demi · « **Reply #3 on:** December 09, 2009, 08:34:40 AM »

Quote from: Borys on December 09, 2009, 08:29:21 AM

The Room was awesome, much better than SH3 in my opinion. YMMV of course.

durrr i like inconvinient cumbersome AI to protect which determines my ending

no thanks bro.

Third · « **Reply #4 on:** December 09, 2009, 08:34:47 AM »

The Room was pretty good, it had a great concept. But I really hated those ghosts you couldn't kill.

When it comes to Silent Hill games:

1. Silent Hill 2
2. Silent Hill
3. Silent Hill 3
4. Silent Hill 4
5. Silent Hill Origins
6. Silent Hill Homocumming

If you want to play a great Silent Hill-type game, try Siren. I hope there's a new Siren in the making.

Draft · « **Reply #5 on:** December 09, 2009, 08:59:24 AM »

Quote from: Third on December 09, 2009, 08:34:47 AM

The Room was pretty good, it had a great concept. But I really hated those ghosts you couldn't kill.

When it comes to Silent Hill games:

1. Silent Hill 2
2. Silent Hill
3. Silent Hill 3
4. Silent Hill 4
5. Silent Hill Origins
6. Silent Hill Homocumming

If you want to play a great Silent Hill-type game, try Siren. I hope there's a new Siren in the making.

That's my ranking, too.

Siren is a fuck awful game, though.

demi · « **Reply #6 on:** December 09, 2009, 12:10:40 PM »

My game glitched and now my save is corrupted

Now I no longer can say 4 is the worst game. Please don't waste your time on this garbage.

demi · « **Reply #7 on:** December 09, 2009, 12:16:20 PM »

Here's the plot twist ending to the game:

spoiler (click to show/hide)

Harry Mason died in the car crash a long time ago, the person at the therapist is actually his daughter, Cheryl. She develops some sort of father issue and becomes sexually deviant and fucks older men and longs for a father like Harry. The entire game is Cheryl's messed up mind. Gone is the ritualistic demons and witches, instead turned into an MTV version of underage sex and fucked up childhoods.

[close]

My SH rating:

1 > 3 > 5 > 2 > Origins = 4 > Wii

Cravis · « **Reply #8 on:** December 09, 2009, 12:35:15 PM »

Quote from: demi on December 09, 2009, 12:16:20 PM

Here's the plot twist ending to the game:

spoiler (click to show/hide)
Harry Mason died in the car crash a long time ago, the person at the therapist is actually his daughter, Cheryl. She develops some sort of father issue and becomes sexually deviant and fucks older men and longs for a father like Harry. The entire game is Cheryl's messed up mind. Gone is the ritualistic demons and witches, instead turned into an MTV version of underage sex and fucked up childhoods.
[close]

My SH rating:

1 > 3 > 5 > 2 > Origins = 4 > Wii

Now that's just plain dumb. Here I thought it was going to try to be more in line with the film. Seems like they made a list of everything that would make a remake of the first Silent Hill cool then made it a point not to do those things.

Third · « **Reply #9 on:** December 09, 2009, 03:08:54 PM »

I've been playing the game for about an hour. It is ok.
The controls are horrible, though. The pointer controls don't always respond that well during escapes, so it makes it quite frustrating to escape from enemies. And I've encountered a few glitches already. Some doors don't open when you run through them.
The graphics are good for a Wii game. Nothing special overall.

And Cybil is fucking ugly in this game. She looks like an old hag. I want my original Cybil back.

Crushed · « **Reply #10 on:** December 09, 2009, 03:11:56 PM »

Quote from: Third on December 09, 2009, 03:08:54 PM

And Cybil is fucking ugly in this game. She looks like an old hag. I want my original Cybil back.

Which Cybil? There are several.

Third · « **Reply #11 on:** December 09, 2009, 03:23:09 PM »

wtf, I've only seen the middle Cybil so far.

And there's no combat in this game, GM. You can only hide and run away. You can also use flares to stun the enemies.

Bebpo · « **Reply #12 on:** December 09, 2009, 03:26:39 PM »

What signs didn't tell you this beforehand?

-Game delayed over and over
-Konami ships a whopping 2 copies per store because they have no faith in it
-Yamaoka LEAVES Konami after 16 years, probably cause this game pisses on the SH franchise he helped create
-Wii/PS2/PSP release

/still playing it once it finishes transitioning to my wii in a bit.

Third · « **Reply #13 on:** December 09, 2009, 03:35:26 PM »

Ps2 and PSP versions haven't leaked yet. And Wii is main platform.

demi · « **Reply #14 on:** December 09, 2009, 04:01:42 PM »

You get different Cybil / Lisa / Michelle / etc depending on what choices you put for the tests. I got slutty Cybil because I put that I dont drink, I've never cheated, yadda.

I mean really. Sex questions? Cmon, it's a wii game.

Bebpo · « **Reply #15 on:** December 09, 2009, 04:15:57 PM »

So all the psych test questions do is change the character models?

That sounds lame.

Yeti · « **Reply #16 on:** December 09, 2009, 04:16:06 PM »

I don't get the logic, you would think they would give slutty cybil to the people that DO drink and cheat and stuff.

I also think it is funny that slutty cybil is the one that looks most like the original.

demi · « **Reply #17 on:** December 09, 2009, 05:22:52 PM »

Quote from: Bebpo on December 09, 2009, 04:15:57 PM

So all the psych test questions do is change the character models?

That sounds lame.

Its supposed to make the game your nightmare. Straightedge virgin? Then everyone is a slut and offers you a drink

ManaByte · « **Reply #18 on:** December 09, 2009, 05:30:32 PM »

I've been living under a rock. Is this a Wii-make of SH1?

demi · « **Reply #19 on:** December 09, 2009, 05:34:42 PM »

Quote from: ManaByte on December 09, 2009, 05:30:32 PM

I've been living under a rock. Is this a Wii-make of SH1?

They call it a "re-imagining", it's definitely not a remake. It has characters that werent in the original at all. None of the locations are the same, etc.

It's more of an MTV modernization. I guess a remake would be apt by today's movie standards. If you read the plot ending spoiler I posted then it fits. Only some hack writer would use that twist ending.

Crushed · « **Reply #20 on:** December 09, 2009, 05:46:47 PM »

Quote from: Bebpo on December 09, 2009, 04:15:57 PM

So all the psych test questions do is change the character models?

That sounds lame.

it changes some environments and puzzles, and some the dialog changes. i think it also effects the ending.

demi · « **Reply #21 on:** December 09, 2009, 05:47:14 PM »

Puzzles would be reaching it

Third · « **Reply #22 on:** December 09, 2009, 06:04:27 PM »

I chose that I don't cheat on my gf and don't drink. So why is the game still punishing me with fugly Cybil? I want the blonde slutty looking one.

demi · « **Reply #23 on:** December 09, 2009, 06:05:45 PM »

I picked True for every one I think except "I find it easy to make friends"

Third · « **Reply #24 on:** December 09, 2009, 06:07:39 PM »

Quote from: demi on December 09, 2009, 06:05:45 PM

I picked True for every one I think except "I find it easy to make friends"

I picked True for that. You're such a loser, Demi.

demi · « **Reply #25 on:** December 09, 2009, 06:09:40 PM »

That's why you got not slutty Cybil. It's your NIGHTMARE

Third · « **Reply #26 on:** December 09, 2009, 06:12:22 PM »

Sillent Hill SD psychology test below:

spoiler (click to show/hide)

1.) I make friends easily

2.) Having a drink helps me relax

3.) I always listen to other people’s feelings

4.) I prefer abstract ideas

5.) I have enjoyed role-play during sex

6.) Working to plan or schedule is best

7.) I have never cheated on a partner

[close]

1. True
2. False
3. True
4. False
5. True
6. False
7. True

My answers. Don't choose them if you want to get nightmare Cybil.

Crushed · « **Reply #27 on:** December 09, 2009, 06:15:04 PM »

Quote from: Third on December 09, 2009, 06:04:27 PM

I chose that I don't cheat on my gf and don't drink. So why is the game still punishing me with fugly Cybil? I want the blonde slutty looking one.

Did you look at any posters or calendars of swimsuit models or dirty graffiti or anything like that?

demi · « **Reply #28 on:** December 09, 2009, 06:15:45 PM »

I looked at a couple posters in the beginning while screaming CHERYL a lot.

This game is so garbage

Third · « **Reply #29 on:** December 09, 2009, 06:17:48 PM »

Quote from: Crushed on December 09, 2009, 06:15:04 PM

Quote from: Third on December 09, 2009, 06:04:27 PM
I chose that I don't cheat on my gf and don't drink. So why is the game still punishing me with fugly Cybil? I want the blonde slutty looking one.

Did you look at any posters or calendars of swimsuit models or dirty graffiti or anything like that?

Yeah, I did

But I don't remember the comments anymore. The graffiti one was something like "kids these days". But I don't remember the poster with the sluts comment anymore..

Crushed · « **Reply #30 on:** December 09, 2009, 06:20:11 PM »

Quote from: Third on December 09, 2009, 06:17:48 PM

Quote from: Crushed on December 09, 2009, 06:15:04 PM
Quote from: Third on December 09, 2009, 06:04:27 PM
I chose that I don't cheat on my gf and don't drink. So why is the game still punishing me with fugly Cybil? I want the blonde slutty looking one.

Did you look at any posters or calendars of swimsuit models or dirty graffiti or anything like that?

Yeah, I did
But I don't remember the comments anymore. The graffiti one was something like "kids these days". But I don't remember the poster with the sluts comment anymore..

Looking at stuff like that is like a built-in psyche test. Depending on the stuff you pay attention to, it effects whatever you get.

Third · « **Reply #31 on:** December 09, 2009, 06:30:50 PM »

Quote from: Crushed on December 09, 2009, 06:20:11 PM

Looking at stuff like that is like a built-in psyche test. Depending on the stuff you pay attention to, it effects whatever you get.

The idea is actually pretty neat. I'm someone who checks out everything in a game. I don't know how this'll effect my progress/ending.

And the graphics effects for the first real world to nightmare world transformation were pretty impressive for the Wii. I think that was the best effect ever for a Wii game. The game has a lot of slowdowns, though. And I hate the fact that you can't hide forever for the enemies. They spot you way too fast.

originalz · « **Reply #32 on:** December 09, 2009, 06:43:38 PM »

I remember playing this game at TGS and being annoyed by the motion controls. Half the time I couldn't get the damn monsters off of me.

demi · « **Reply #33 on:** December 09, 2009, 11:34:24 PM »

Some of the endings

Bebpo · « **Reply #34 on:** December 10, 2009, 05:04:21 AM »

A few things stuck out to me.

1. The framerate is a fucking mess. This bothers me a lot because it's like HEY 60FPS and then drops to like 20s ALL THE TIME. It's always fluxuating based on how much is on screen and it's visually annoying. Should've locked it at 30fps if they could've hit that.

2. Control is interesting. Takes some getting used. I think it's good for exploring and trying to put yourself in the character's shoes, but I get the feeling it will be horrible for the chase sequences.

3. Doesn't seem to use the music much early on. Kinda dick since SH is music.

4. Graphics look nice at times, but then other times the enviornments look Dreamcasty. Plus the game is full of jaggies and dithering, but fuck that's every wii game.

5. It's SH1 again. Why do I care? I don't want to look for Cheryl anymore $:-\$

Bebpo · « **Reply #35 on:** December 10, 2009, 05:06:54 AM »

Also, why does demi hate SH2? Does he hate freedom as well

demi · « **Reply #36 on:** December 10, 2009, 05:52:34 AM »

It's boring and uninteresting

dark1x · « **Reply #37 on:** December 10, 2009, 07:33:43 AM »

So does it look worse than Silent Hill 3 in person? Sounds like the framerate is pretty bad. Origins had a similar issue on PSP. It would jump to 60 fps with your flashlight turned off and drop to 30 when it was on. Of course, this seems to go even lower...

It's a shame that the recent Silent Hill game have all been a technical mess (especially considering how impressive the PS2 games were).

Bebpo · « **Reply #38 on:** December 10, 2009, 12:43:25 PM »

The models are close but not quite. The environments are definitely not. They're going for having more junk on screen at the expense of framerate look. It also doesn't have the nice lighting.

SH Wii has the same problem that 99% of Wii games have: it's unpolished and no one cares to put the effort in because it's a Wii game. One area looks like a nice PS2 game, the next looks like a PS1 game? Who cares, it's on Wii. One section has 60fps until you turn your head and it drops to 30fps? Who cares, it's on Wii.

The only companies putting any real care into their products are some Japanese devs. Nintendo does for their major 1st party games of course, but in terms of everyone else only a few games like Madworld, FF Crystal Bearers, Tales of Graces, etc... really show off the screen by screen polish that was expected of major PS2 games and that we expect from AAA PS3/X360 games.

EmCeeGrammar · « **Reply #39 on:** December 10, 2009, 12:54:25 PM »

Uhh, ps2 games were quilty of inconsistent visuals and dodgy framerates ALL THE TIME. Think of the first party stuff even!

Sho Nuff · « **Reply #40 on:** December 10, 2009, 12:56:27 PM »

Who was developer on this one? Double Helix?

Crushed · « **Reply #41 on:** December 10, 2009, 12:57:18 PM »

Quote from: Sho Nuff on December 10, 2009, 12:56:27 PM

Who was developer on this one? Double Helix?

Climax UK, the guys who made Origins.

demi · « **Reply #42 on:** December 10, 2009, 12:57:55 PM »

Quote from: Sho Nuff on December 10, 2009, 12:56:27 PM

Who was developer on this one? Double Helix?

Don't I wish, then it would be at least decent.

dark1x · « **Reply #43 on:** December 10, 2009, 01:01:30 PM »

Quote from: EmCeeGrammar on December 10, 2009, 12:54:25 PM

Uhh, ps2 games were quilty of inconsistent visuals and dodgy framerates ALL THE TIME. Think of the first party stuff even!

Eh, the PS2 had the largest percentage of 3D 60 fps games of any system to date. There were tons of 60 fps games on the PS2.

I think the point was that a game like this, released on PS2, would have had more effort put into it (technically). Few developers seem interested in pushing the Wii.

AdmiralViscen · « **Reply #44 on:** December 11, 2009, 07:16:54 AM »

You know guys, I'm really starting to think that the Wii is a piece of shit.

Third · « **Reply #45 on:** December 11, 2009, 08:10:49 AM »

I'm stuck.
Currently at the Midwich Highschool and I don't know what the hell I'm supposed to do.
There are no guides on the internet yet. :'(

dark1x · « **Reply #46 on:** December 11, 2009, 09:35:01 AM »

Quote from: AdmiralViscen on December 11, 2009, 07:16:54 AM

You know guys, I'm really starting to think that the Wii is a piece of shit.

You just realized that?

twerd · « **Reply #47 on:** December 11, 2009, 02:06:02 PM »

Quote from: dark1x on December 10, 2009, 01:01:30 PM

Quote from: EmCeeGrammar on December 10, 2009, 12:54:25 PM
Uhh, ps2 games were quilty of inconsistent visuals and dodgy framerates ALL THE TIME. Think of the first party stuff even!

I think the point was that a game like this, released on PS2, would have had more effort put into it (technically). Few developers seem interested in pushing the Wii.

...can't tell if serious...

bork · « **Reply #48 on:** December 11, 2009, 04:18:33 PM »

Quote from: Third on December 11, 2009, 08:10:49 AM

I'm stuck.
Currently at the Midwich Highschool and I don't know what the hell I'm supposed to do.
There are no guides on the internet yet. :'(

Look for shit. Run from monsters. Repeat.

Third · « **Reply #49 on:** December 11, 2009, 05:07:09 PM »

Looked for shit and found my way out now.

I tried way too hard for finding the clue. The key was in the same fucking room. The puzzles are so easy. The game basically throws keys at you.

AdmiralViscen · « **Reply #50 on:** December 11, 2009, 05:08:32 PM »

Quote from: dark1x on December 11, 2009, 09:35:01 AM

Quote from: AdmiralViscen on December 11, 2009, 07:16:54 AM
You know guys, I'm really starting to think that the Wii is a piece of shit.
You just realized that?

Yea, I didn't notice before.

EmCeeGrammar · « **Reply #51 on:** December 11, 2009, 05:40:49 PM »

I think this game is mostly just a mixed bag of clever gimmicks. Its a good game if you're into novelty. That being said, they really missed the point on making it scary at all. The chase sequences are okay, as in you get worried when you realise you've run in a huge circle and now the monsters will be coming from all directions. Yet, outside of those sequences there could've been at least some roaming monsters to be creepy if not lethal.

Also, the text on your phone and on some of the signs is too small to read. this especially bothered me in the principal's office whereas you had to read a phone-number on a sticky note.

demi · « **Reply #52 on:** December 11, 2009, 05:42:30 PM »

Quote from: EmCeeGrammar on December 11, 2009, 05:40:49 PM

Also, the text on your phone and on some of the signs is too small to read. this especially bothered me in the principal's office whereas you had to read a phone-number on a sticky note.

That phone # wasnt relevant to solving that puzzle at all

EmCeeGrammar · « **Reply #53 on:** December 11, 2009, 05:46:04 PM »

Quote from: demi on December 11, 2009, 05:42:30 PM

Quote from: EmCeeGrammar on December 11, 2009, 05:40:49 PM

Also, the text on your phone and on some of the signs is too small to read. this especially bothered me in the principal's office whereas you had to read a phone-number on a sticky note.

That phone # wasnt relevant to solving that puzzle at all

The passwords are different depending on your psyche profile. In my game, you had to read a sticky note and call the number. At the number you would get the first name of the principal's ex wife.

demi · « **Reply #54 on:** December 11, 2009, 05:49:12 PM »

What a shitty game.

EmCeeGrammar · « **Reply #55 on:** December 11, 2009, 05:52:53 PM »

And fuck the memento bullshit too. I go out of my way into an area just to get some marble. It does nothing and will never be used again, then I have to turn around and walk for 5 minutes to resume whatever it is I'm supposed to be doing. You'd think they could do something cool with finding a derelict water tower in the woods but no, not at all.

Third · « **Reply #56 on:** December 12, 2009, 10:43:17 AM »

The escape sequences really hurt the game. It's not scary or tense- it's fucking annoying. The controls during escapes are so broken.
This is the least scary Silent Hill game so far. Besided being chased by monsters, nothing else happens that could possibly scare you. The game is really boring.
Can't wait to finish this.

Third · « **Reply #57 on:** December 12, 2009, 07:01:21 PM »

Just finished the game. I thought it was better than Origins and Homecoming. The game became pretty good near the end.
The game would've been better without the annoying and lame escape sequences. I want my next Silent Hill to have monster that I can kill.

Bebpo · « **Reply #58 on:** December 12, 2009, 07:18:45 PM »

What about if there were no monsters at all and it was just a mind-trip creepy adventure game?

demi · « **Reply #59 on:** December 12, 2009, 07:22:59 PM »

Then it'd be just like Another Code and put me to sleep

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