Author Topic: Wait...GT5 still doesn't have damage? (Read 4537 times)

ManaByte · « **on:** December 17, 2009, 02:52:18 AM »

According to people with the demo off the JPN PSN store there's no car damage.

How can they defend that in light of Forza 3?

MCD · « **Reply #1 on:** December 17, 2009, 03:00:51 AM »

it's a demo

maxy · « **Reply #2 on:** December 17, 2009, 03:19:06 AM »

They are still perfecting it,PD is a perfectionist-nobody is going home until it is perfect.
Perfect.

bork · « **Reply #3 on:** December 17, 2009, 04:17:24 AM »

Quote from: Borys on December 17, 2009, 03:29:48 AM

Wait for GT6!

You mean wait for GT6 Prologue, then three more years after that for GT6!

Third · « **Reply #4 on:** December 17, 2009, 04:24:18 AM »

I think we'll be seeing GT6 pretty soon after the GT5 release.
Polyphony Digital took its time to create a great new engine for the Ps3. They don't have to do this again for GT6.

bork · « **Reply #5 on:** December 17, 2009, 04:27:24 AM »

I wish Polyphony would make another Motor Toon Grand Prix or even Omega Boost.

brawndolicious · « **Reply #6 on:** December 17, 2009, 04:29:20 AM »

Quote from: Green Man on December 17, 2009, 03:19:32 AM

Some cars have damage and some don't or whatever.

Like by whole manufacturers or specific models? You can roll over practically any ecobox or sports car in Forza 3 so that doesn't make any sense. Is there at least still mechanical damage?

Third · « **Reply #7 on:** December 17, 2009, 04:36:25 AM »

Quote from: the lyte edge™ on December 17, 2009, 04:27:24 AM

I wish Polyphony would make another Motor Toon Grand Prix or even Omega Boost.

They seem to have a lot of fun making the GT games, though. I've watched a few videos of their studio and the people who are working on the game.The whole team was obsessed with cars and motorbikes. They really love making the games.

I hope the rumor is true and GT5 will have motorbikes included. WOuld be pretty good. I liked the Tourist Trophy game on Ps2.

Third · « **Reply #8 on:** December 17, 2009, 05:01:14 AM »

I'm almost sure PD will release another GT game for Ps3 after GT5. But then again, you'll never know with PD...
It also took them four fucking years to release GT4 after GT3, while GT1 to GT3 were almost released annually.

brawndolicious · « **Reply #9 on:** December 17, 2009, 05:13:44 AM »

I really hope they don't count cars with different paint jobs as new cars though. There were like 8 celica's in GT3 iirc.

pilonv1 · « **Reply #10 on:** December 17, 2009, 05:23:07 AM »

I thought damage was only for Rally Cars or something

Purple Filth · « **Reply #11 on:** December 17, 2009, 08:28:41 AM »

looks like they are still tweaking the model.

Cravis · « **Reply #12 on:** December 17, 2009, 09:01:23 AM »

Car Manafacturer's allow filmmakers to mutilate and destroy their cars in crashes. When are they going to to let game developers do the same?

Jansen · « **Reply #13 on:** December 17, 2009, 10:18:46 AM »

didn't the demo come out three years ago? i'm sure they've added damage since then!

duckman2000 · « **Reply #14 on:** December 17, 2009, 11:23:26 AM »

Drab game for the car fetishist and other Nazi types doesn't have some feature that some critically drab racing game has. How god damn interesting.

cool breeze · « **Reply #15 on:** December 17, 2009, 11:33:13 AM »

was reading impressions last night and people were saying this isn't so much a demo but just a time trial GT/Nissan academy or whatever type thing. Didn't understand until I downloaded the demo that was only 201 megs. I don't think it has a lot of other advertised features in it either. I'm hoping a real demo comes out later on so I can at least try head tracking without buying the game because Forza 3 (which I haven't even started yet) is more than enough for a few months/years.

cool breeze · « **Reply #16 on:** December 17, 2009, 12:17:43 PM »

Tried the demo. Driving actually feels good now and much better than in prologue. Graphics and all that stuff still look great and the only change there is that the game manages to have a sense of speed now. Probably will pass when it's released.

demi · « **Reply #17 on:** December 17, 2009, 01:27:16 PM »

Quote from: a slime appears on December 17, 2009, 12:20:47 PM

While I hate on GT I still like the series. Anyone have a JPN account I can use to download the demo?

Make your own you jiggly fuckmuffin

ManaByte · « **Reply #18 on:** December 17, 2009, 02:07:25 PM »

Quote from: Cravis on December 17, 2009, 09:01:23 AM

Car Manafacturer's allow filmmakers to mutilate and destroy their cars in crashes. When are they going to to let game developers do the same?

They do...if it's Forza 3.

MyNameIsMethodis · « **Reply #19 on:** December 17, 2009, 02:56:57 PM »

If you're crashing into shit, then you're not playing Gran Turismo right. Sounds like a ADD riddled shitfest like Forza 3 is right for you. I'll take my driving simulator and drive my dream car and not get a dent on it.

ManaByte · « **Reply #20 on:** December 17, 2009, 03:07:33 PM »

Quote from: MyNameIsMud on December 17, 2009, 02:56:57 PM

If you're crashing into shit, then you're not playing Gran Turismo right. Sounds like a ADD riddled shitfest like Forza 3 is right for you. I'll take my driving simulator and drive my dream car and not get a dent on it.

Die in a car fire.

MyNameIsMethodis · « **Reply #21 on:** December 17, 2009, 03:09:06 PM »

How can I die in a car fire if I know how to drive correctly?

Third · « **Reply #22 on:** December 17, 2009, 03:44:08 PM »

and ugly

Yikes, what a turn off. I'm still getting the game, though.

Van Cruncheon · « **Reply #23 on:** December 17, 2009, 03:46:11 PM »

Quote from: duckman2000 on December 17, 2009, 11:23:26 AM

Drab game for the car fetishist and other Nazi types doesn't have some feature that some critically drab racing game has. How god damn interesting.

cosign

cool breeze · « **Reply #24 on:** December 17, 2009, 04:54:10 PM »

Quote from: dcharlie on December 17, 2009, 04:25:26 PM

hmm... handles nice

graphical ... wtf happened? i've not seen texture shimmering and weird aliasing like this since early ps2 games.

This is the PSP version upscaled isn't it?

The cars looks really good, it's the environments that still look bad. The difference in quality makes it look off.

brawndolicious · « **Reply #25 on:** December 17, 2009, 05:16:07 PM »

Quote from: MyNameIsMud on December 17, 2009, 02:56:57 PM

If you're crashing into shit, then you're not playing Gran Turismo right. Sounds like a ADD riddled shitfest like Forza 3 is right for you. I'll take my driving simulator and drive my dream car and not get a dent on it.

The main reason for mechanical damage is to give proper punishment for not doing clean passes or braking with walls, which is noob behavior but often the easiest way to win. To me, it just sounds lazy if the main competition can get all the cars they want visually damaged but the series with the longer pedigree can't.

MyNameIsMethodis · « **Reply #26 on:** December 17, 2009, 05:39:22 PM »

That's not my point, my point is that if you're crashing into shit, GT isn't your game.

brawndolicious · « **Reply #27 on:** December 17, 2009, 05:43:42 PM »

That's like saying reflections or dynamic shadows don't matter. It's just another thing to make the game look more authentic.

Olivia Wilde Homo · « **Reply #28 on:** December 17, 2009, 06:11:54 PM »

Quote from: MyNameIsMud on December 17, 2009, 05:39:22 PM

That's not my point, my point is that if you're crashing into shit, GT isn't your game.

ROFL

pilonv1 · « **Reply #29 on:** December 17, 2009, 06:13:57 PM »

they should just take the other cars off the road then. its a DRIVING SIMULATOR not a racing simulator

MyNameIsMethodis · « **Reply #30 on:** December 17, 2009, 06:30:08 PM »

If you're playing a mans game then why are you playing like a pussy?

Van Cruncheon · « **Reply #31 on:** December 17, 2009, 06:37:37 PM »

my point is that if you're playing gt, you're better off smashing your glans with a tack hammer

MyNameIsMethodis · « **Reply #32 on:** December 17, 2009, 06:41:55 PM »

That's why you join a car club and play with other gentlemen who know how to handle a car.

brawndolicious · « **Reply #33 on:** December 17, 2009, 06:48:10 PM »

In PGR, it's WAY faster to brake by hitting the wall which is why it doesn't work as a competitive simulator. If you want to be able to compare lap times fairly, then making sure that people don't brake along the wall or cut corners is pretty necessary.

pilonv1 · « **Reply #34 on:** December 17, 2009, 06:54:19 PM »

super leper methodis

MyNameIsMethodis · « **Reply #35 on:** December 17, 2009, 07:28:57 PM »

May I reccomend you guys wear this while you play GT5?

MyNameIsMethodis · « **Reply #36 on:** December 17, 2009, 08:08:20 PM »

We don't crash, in fact, we don't even race. We just get in a line and drive around in our favorite cars in our favorite tracks while listening to the Smooth Groove channel on XM Sirius radio.

ferrarimanf355 · « **Reply #37 on:** December 17, 2009, 08:30:57 PM »

Quote from: MyNameIsMud on December 17, 2009, 05:39:22 PM

That's not my point, my point is that if you're crashing into shit, GT isn't your game.

Dude, the THREAT of damage is what keeps me straight in Forza 3. I only rolled my car once in that game, and it was to dodge some idiot AI driver who wrecked in front of me...

ferrarimanf355 · « **Reply #38 on:** December 17, 2009, 08:31:44 PM »

Quote from: MyNameIsMud on December 17, 2009, 07:28:57 PM

May I reccomend you guys wear this while you play GT5?

(Image removed from quote.)

This is the greatest comeback ever.

Fragamemnon · « **Reply #39 on:** December 17, 2009, 09:12:05 PM »

Quote from: pilonv1 on December 17, 2009, 06:13:57 PM

they should just take the other cars off the road then. its a DRIVING SIMULATOR not a racing simulator

Yeah that's my take on what's off about GT, and to a lesser extent Forza, the game feels like you are simulating driving (the act of operating a vehicle) first and racing (the act of competing and jockeying for time/position) second. The two usually can be well integrated with each other but man GT has never seemed interested in doing it.

cool breeze · « **Reply #40 on:** December 17, 2009, 09:23:27 PM »

That pretty much sums up why PGR2 (and the entire series) is my favorite racing game. The most important thing you ranked on is driving stylishly. When it comes to racing, you get points for the usual drifting and all that, but you also get points for how drafting behind other cars, clean passes, etc. It helps that it's a mix between an arcade and console sim racer, so it's fun but also not Burnout or Trackmania crazy.

The real best racing game next year is probably going to be Split/Second.

duckman2000 · « **Reply #41 on:** December 17, 2009, 09:28:20 PM »

Split Second

pilonv1 · « **Reply #42 on:** December 17, 2009, 09:35:57 PM »

Quote from: duckman2000 on December 17, 2009, 09:28:20 PM

Split Second

PURE

awesome games

OptimoPeach · « **Reply #43 on:** December 17, 2009, 11:34:16 PM »

Quote from: a slime appears on December 17, 2009, 09:30:34 PM

I thought you stat nerds would love the sim racing genre. Half of any decent sim racer is balancing your car's stats for maximum efficiency via a multitude of modification and vehicle options.

I dunno, I think cars are far too ~~prosaic~~ manly to be intriguing for your average nerd with a micromanagement hard-on. I'd much rather throw on Civ4 or something if I were feeling fastidious

brawndolicious · « **Reply #44 on:** December 18, 2009, 03:32:58 AM »

Most gearheads I've met are skinny nerds. We're definitely in the same tribe.

Olivia Wilde Homo · « **Reply #45 on:** December 18, 2009, 09:22:00 AM »

I still want to know what the final budget of this game is. If it is $50-60 million, I wouldn't be surprised. I mean, what could Polyphony be working on. It sure as fuck wasn't Gran Turismo PSP.

Sho Nuff · « **Reply #46 on:** December 18, 2009, 12:35:51 PM »

"If you're SERIOUS about racing and play the game RIGHT you shouldn't even have to worry about damage AT ALL!"

Olivia Wilde Homo · « **Reply #47 on:** December 18, 2009, 01:05:24 PM »

Methodis is being dumb. It's just a blind defense with jabs at the Xfag contingency.

Just think of all the ways shitty games can become great if you use that justification.

Quote from: Jinfash Akbar on December 18, 2009, 12:57:59 PM

I hate to so say this, but ferarriman won the thread:

Quote from: ferrarimanf355 on December 17, 2009, 08:30:57 PM
Dude, the THREAT of damage is what keeps me straight in Forza 3.

... what a coincidence, that's what keeps me straight in real life too. I'm sure PD expects us to be mature enough to not ever ATTEMPT to bump into each other.

Now shitcan this thread and methodis.

MyNameIsMethodis · « **Reply #48 on:** December 18, 2009, 01:28:50 PM »

My point is Gran Turismo is a mans game, it's not a racing game like Forza. It's a driving simulator. If you can't drive a trakc and not bump into shit, then GT isn't for you. If you can't enjoy just leisurely driving your favorite car around a famous track, then this game isn't for you, and Forza is for you, since it's for the ADD audience and shitty graphic designers like modus.

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #49 on:** December 18, 2009, 01:32:25 PM »

Quote from: MyNameIsMud on December 18, 2009, 01:28:50 PM

My point is Gran Turismo is a mans game, it's not a racing game like Forza. It's a driving simulator. If you can't drive a trakc and not bump into shit, then GT isn't for you. If you can't enjoy just leisurely driving your favorite car around a famous track, then this game isn't for you, and Forza is for you, since it's for the ADD audience and shitty graphic designers like modus.

smh

ManaByte · « **Reply #50 on:** December 18, 2009, 01:36:41 PM »

Gran Turismo 5: Casual Driving Simulator

Mupepe · « **Reply #51 on:** December 18, 2009, 01:42:21 PM »

So then why is the objective to win races??

Olivia Wilde Homo · « **Reply #52 on:** December 18, 2009, 01:42:52 PM »

Quote from: MyNameIsMud on December 18, 2009, 01:28:50 PM

My point is Gran Turismo is a mans game, it's not a racing game like Forza. It's a driving simulator. If you can't drive a trakc and not bump into shit, then GT isn't for you. If you can't enjoy just leisurely driving your favorite car around a famous track, then this game isn't for you, and Forza is for you, since it's for the ADD audience and shitty graphic designers like modus.

This doesn't make any rational or logical sense.

MyNameIsMethodis · « **Reply #53 on:** December 18, 2009, 01:45:31 PM »

Do I ever though?

Fragamemnon · « **Reply #54 on:** December 18, 2009, 01:51:34 PM »

that line of reasoning could make a game like Endless Ocean a "man's game", couldn't it?

I've played a few games-Live for Speed, NASCAR Racing 2003, GTR2 and other SimBin games, iRacing-that have amazing fidelity to the driving simulation and track recreation. They also at the same time never get so lost in their simulation building that they forget to be racing games at heart, and all offer the searing, edge of your seat intensity and competitive struggle that a good racing game provides.

BlueTsunami · « **Reply #55 on:** December 18, 2009, 05:17:42 PM »

methodis: not crashin' into wallz since 1996

originalz · « **Reply #56 on:** December 18, 2009, 09:17:17 PM »

Have you even seen professional races? People bump into each other all the time and there's damage done, not necessarily NASCAR shit but every subtle hit can make an impact.

Anyway, I played this demo and was underwhelmed. The cockpit view is absolutely beautiful, but the actual racing seems so...archaic after playing Forza 3. I was also disappointed at how poor the scenery looked.

Purple Filth · « **Reply #57 on:** December 18, 2009, 11:16:02 PM »

what the fuck is with the back and forth bitching since they are putting in damage anyways?

brawndolicious · « **Reply #58 on:** December 19, 2009, 03:37:17 AM »

There is mechanical damage, which methodis claimed wasn't necessary, but some cars don't have cosmetic damage. It just feels lazy and unfinished imo and I really wouldn't be all that surprised if they made some dlc damage models for some cars.

ManaByte · « **Reply #59 on:** December 19, 2009, 11:57:29 AM »

Quote from: Purple Filth on December 18, 2009, 11:16:02 PM

what the fuck is with the back and forth bitching since they are putting in damage anyways?

Because every single car in Forza 3 has both mechanical and physical damage, and you can fucking FLIP OVER cars.

GT5 isn't doing this and they've been working on it since the NES days.

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Author Topic: Wait...GT5 still doesn't have damage? (Read 4537 times)