Nintendo Wii: Does it really qualify as a videogame system?

[Hitler Stole My Potato]

I considered myself an N-tard through much of the 90's, even though I had a pretty big hard on for the Playstation as well, but this past decade Nintendo has faded into irrelevancy, at least from my perspective.  I honestly couldn't give two shits about the Wii and have absolutely no desire to own one.  Outside of Galaxy, there is literally nothing on that system that I'm even remotely interested in playing.

If MS and Sony go down this route in the next couple of years I'll just switch back to playing on the PC primarily.

[Olivia Wilde Homo]

I considered myself an N-tard through much of the 90's, even though I had a pretty big hard on for the Playstation as well, but this past decade Nintendo has faded into irrelevancy, at least from my perspective.  I honestly couldn't give two shits about the Wii and have absolutely no desire to own one.  Outside of Galaxy, there is literally nothing on that system that I'm even remotely interested in playing.

If MS and Sony go down this route in the next couple of years I'll just switch back to playing on the PC primarily.

My Nintardism has become dormant.  I rarely get excited about the major stuff on other systems but if there is something major on the Game Cube or Wii, I want it.  It was tempted to pick up a Wii this fall for NSMB but I know for a fact there were many more better games on the 360 or PS3.  Why I don't consider them but want to play a Nintendo game (and then have it sit for the rest of the year unplayed), I'll never know.

I think Nintendo is a lot like beating a heroin addiction: you can suppress it well enough but it is always there.

[magus]

i was never a n-tard,i bought a wii because it was cheap   

[EmCeeGrammar]

You know, I think I agree with a lot of what is said in this thread.  Wii looks like ass on a hdtv, which I think is a valid concern (I voted for the no hdtv option).  The online multiplayer aspects are garbage.  But what I most agree with is that I don't resonate with other's taste which is a huge reason why I'm into the system.  Dragon Age looks like garbage to me, as does anything with generic d&d trappings and arbitrary stats. My most anticipated 'game' next year is a scuba simulator where you pet fishes.  I liked Wii Music for its open ended goals and loathe the guitar hero games.  So, big surprise, I have no problem dropping the label 'gamer'.  I don't know why you gamers hate us nongamers so.

[archie4208]

If MS and Sony go down this route in the next couple of years I'll just switch back to playing on the PC primarily.

It's already happening with Natal and the dildowand.   Good jon killing the console market, Nintendo.

PC gaming is the last hope for real gamers who don't want to flail their arms like morons.

[EmCeeGrammar]

PC gaming blows.  Its not fun sitting hunched over in a chair trying to move a guy with wasd.  Couch and buttons or waggle dancing ftw.

[archie4208]

You can hook a PC up to a HDTV and have the big comfy couch with buttons

[EmCeeGrammar]

Hmm true, I kinda wish they would sell home theater pc setups... with waggle wands.  There was some distinguished mentally-challenged gaf poster who nevertheless had a  pretty sweet setup with a gyroscopic mouse.  If I ever get that kind of money I'll look into it.

edit: then again multiplayer with people in the same room isn't even an option in most cases.

[archie4208]

When Wii emulation gets at 100%, it will be more beneficial to have a PC hooked up to the TV and a Wii emulator running than the actual Wii.

[EmCeeGrammar]

Considering the texture detail they are finding with the emulator, I'm almost convinced Nintendo is prepping their games for a wii hd down the road.  I never knew Metaknight actually had an m emblem in brawl before seeing the high res shots.

[EmCeeGrammar]

I'm feeling generous. WiiWare gets ignored in these discussions.  I'll have no qualms gifting bit trip beat and rotohex to anyone that wants it. Probably my two favorite games on the service.

[Nintendosbooger]

"Flailing" your arms is probably the most exercise some of you fat-asses have seen since mandatory PE class, for which you've probably never dressed anyway.

The Wii has a great number of games that implement "waggle" either sparingly or correctly to produce the best of both worlds. Some developers like Konami. Capcom, WayForward, etc. are definitely getting it.

Developers are getting the hang of it, Sony wants to copy it (what else is new?), Microsoft wants a piece of the action, and gamers are loving it (refer to the 07-09 sales charts if you're lost at this point.)

Personally, I've had a blast with Silent Hill: SM, Link's Crossbow Training, NSMBWii, Wii Sports 1 + 2, Mario Kart Wii, Twilight Princess, Elebits, RE4Wii, RE:UC, and many many others.

[Olivia Wilde Homo]

I suspect Natal and the Dildowand will fail spectacularly this fall, then quietly killed off, and forgotten.

Anyone who really wanted waggle already owns a Wii and I don't see soccer mom panties getting moist over owning a 360 or PS3.  The Wii is far less intimidating, it is a direct knockoff of the Apple design (which soccer moms would like as they most likely own an iPod, if not an iMac or Macbook), and it is brain dead simple to set up.  The 360 and PS3 have none of those things going for it.

[archie4208]

Can someone name a game where motion controls have meaningfully added to the experience?  The only game I can think of is Excite Truck/Bots where the tilt controls are pretty nice, but at the same time the gameplay is fairly sloppy and precision is rarely needed. 

Pointer controls are pretty good in the right situation (Trauma Center <3), but it is still inferior to M/K for first person shooters (which was a Wiitard talking point when the controller was unveiled)

[EmCeeGrammar]

Can someone name a game where motion controls have meaningfully added to the experience?  The only game I can think of is Excite Truck/Bots where the tilt controls are pretty nice, but at the same time the gameplay is fairly sloppy and precision is rarely needed. 

Pointer controls are pretty good in the right situation (Trauma Center <3), but it is still inferior to M/K for first person shooters (which was a Wiitard talking point when the controller was unveiled)

Tiger Woods
Shaun White Snowboarding ( I personally can't stand the board controls though)
I think Wii Sports Resort shows how you could make a good bowling, sword, frisbee, etc. game, but I doubt anyone is going to follow through on it.  And before it gets said, bowling in the original wii sports sucked.  Adding spin initiated some lock-on shenanigans whereas in Resort it spins the way you tell it to.

[EmCeeGrammar]

oh shit

edit:  What do people see in the original wii sports tennis?  It only every read my lobs correctly.  Could never do a slice/drop shot consistently.

[archie4208]

I forgot about Tiger Woods.  I will concede that point.  The motion+ was pretty awesome.  Wii Sports/Resort feels like a really polished tech demo although the motion controls are generally well done.

[Nintendosbooger]

Can someone name a game where motion controls have meaningfully added to the experience?  The only game I can think of is Excite Truck/Bots where the tilt controls are pretty nice, but at the same time the gameplay is fairly sloppy and precision is rarely needed. 

Pointer controls are pretty good in the right situation (Trauma Center <3), but it is still inferior to M/K for first person shooters (which was a Wiitard talking point when the controller was unveiled)

I'll give you examples:

Silent Hill: SM (flashlight)
Modern Warfare: Reflex (called the best version of MW by quite a few reputable news outlets)
Wii Sports (will end up in Guinness as the top selling game of all time, if it's not now)
Tiger Woods Golf+ (best golf game ever)
Virtua Tennis+
Mario Kart Wii (best wheel controlled game ever, IMO)
Twilight Princess (hack and slash feature makes you feel like you're part of the game)
Wii Sports 2 (fencing game, perhaps the best competitive mini game to be released)
Light-gun games (Wii resurrected the dead genre overnight with games like Umbrella Chronicles, Deadspace Extraction, HotD, Link's Crossbow Training, RE:DC, etc.)
You've mentioned EXCITE truck/bots but it bears repeating.
So many other examples that I don't have time to mention.

[EmCeeGrammar]

Dude, I think they did a good job with the Modern Warfare port, but no.  Try tracking someone with a sniper scope beyond your initial view point.  PAIN IN THE ASS.

[Sho Nuff]

"Flailing" your arms is probably the most exercise some of you fat-asses have seen since mandatory PE class, for which you've probably never dressed anyway.

u watch it buddy. I'm doing Tae Kwon Do. And I'm good. I would just have to shout a mighty KIYAP and you would be on the floor cowering in fear. I'm almost as good as Hworang in Tekken. But you wouldn't even know because Wii doesn't have Tekken lol!!!

[EmCeeGrammar]

Hworang is what my brother played in tekken 3.  I always thought hworang looked kinda gay, maybe a bottom.  My brother came out of the closet a few years ago.  Coincidence? I think not.

[EmCeeGrammar]

Waggle made RE4 perfect. I really cant imagine playing the game without motion controls.

Modern Warfare: Reflex (called the best version of MW by quite a few reputable news outlets)

Just stop, how can the `best version` not have multi?

It has multi, with copious amounts of lag.

[Nintendosbooger]

Waggle made RE4 perfect. I really cant imagine playing the game without motion controls.

Modern Warfare: Reflex (called the best version of MW by quite a few reputable news outlets)

Just stop, how can the `best version` not have multi?

I know you were just corrected,but you're a fine example of a very uninformed gamer and one of the reasons why the Wii is so demonized by the self-deluded "hardcore community."

Wii = Obama
HD fanboys = FOX News

[Human Snorenado]

Who are these "reputable news outlets" that called the dumbed down Wiinis version of MW the best?  Show your work, plz.

[EmCeeGrammar]

Want to be wii friends Nintendosbooger    We can start a clan and join the gamefaqs community!

[Sho Nuff]

Hworang is what my brother played in tekken 3.  I always thought hworang looked kinda gay, maybe a bottom.  My brother came out of the closet a few years ago.  Coincidence? I think not.

KIYAP!

I bet that picture just made u pee your pants!!! Hworang is awesome and could kick your butt any day. loser!!!

[EmCeeGrammar]

Who are these "reputable news outlets" that called the dumbed down Wiinis version of MW the best?  Show your work, plz.

Gamefaqs reviews.
 
In seriousness, I think only 1up gave it a good score or even bothered to review it.  They gave it an a+.  I personally disagree because the single player has terrible framerate issues.  Multi is mostly good, except on certain maps teh pop-in issues means you won't know why your shots aren't connecting until you move up and a barricade materialises into existence.  But thats mostly an issue with snipers.  And from what I can tell it affects the one side of overgrown and certain sniping spots in ambush (the spawn points looking out into the no man's land)

[EmCeeGrammar]

Hworang is what my brother played in tekken 3.  I always thought hworang looked kinda gay, maybe a bottom.  My brother came out of the closet a few years ago.  Coincidence? I think not.

(Image removed from quote.)
KIYAP!

I bet that picture just made u pee your pants!!! Hworang is awesome and could kick your butt any day. loser!!!

Yoshimitsu transcends fighting game rosters and will transcend your weaksauce fighting game skills. Bring it.

[Sho Nuff]

OK U got me. Yoshimitsu is PRETTY cool. But I like when he looks like a space samurai and not an alien bug. Tekken 6 has a better Yoshimitsu I think.

Hey Nintendosbooger, I found a version of Tekken U can play! Maybe it's on virtual console!?
[youtube=560,345]6MFD2VSt9aY[/youtube]

[Third]

I can kick everyone's ass with Hwoarang and Ling Xiaoyu.

I bet Nintendosbooger's favorite fighting game is Super button Smash

[EmCeeGrammar]

Just kidding guys I just button mashed with Eddie Gordo.

[Sho Nuff]

I can kick everyone's ass with Hwoarang and Ling Xiaoyu.

I bet Nintendosbooger's favorite fighting game is Super button Smash

A better thread would be "SSBB: Does it qualify as a fighting game?"

spoiler (click to show/hide)

The answer is NO

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[EmCeeGrammar]

You guys are going to hurt archie's feelings.

[Third]

Super Smash is definitely a party game. I would put it in the same category as Mario Party and Wii Sports.

[archie4208]

You guys are going to hurt archie's feelings.

Yes. :'(

I went to smash tournaments.

[Third]

 Really

[Nintendosbooger]

Forgot to mention SSX: Blur. I had purchased it day one, and it's still one of the best snowboarding games on the market, with near-perfectly integrated motion controls.

Let me not fail to mention the early sandbox games for the Wii, specifically Scarface (motion controlled chainsaw was intuitive) and Godfather. Both games justified the Wii's revolutionary control scheme.

[archie4208]

Hate all you want, Melee is an awesome game.  Brawl sucks noodles, though. [/tourneyfag]

[Olivia Wilde Homo]

SSB Melee was fanservice but included a halfway decent party-fighter.

Brawl dropped the latter and is simply fanservice.  I don't even expect SSB4 to have any kind of fighting at all, it will be just a way to trade Nintendo related tchotchkes and music themes with others online.  They've already have this kind of set up with Animal Crossing now.

[Third]

Forgot to mention SSX: Blur. I had purchased it day one, and it's still one of the best snowboarding games on the market, with near-perfectly integrated motion controls.

Let me not fail to mention the early sandbox games for the Wii, specifically Scarface (motion controlled chainsaw was intuitive) and Godfather. Both games justified the Wii's revolutionary control scheme.

You're the perfect example of "setting the bar low"

[Howard Alan Treesong]

Forgot to mention SSX: Blur. I had purchased it day one, and it's still one of the best snowboarding games on the market, with near-perfectly integrated motion controls.

Let me not fail to mention the early sandbox games for the Wii, specifically Scarface (motion controlled chainsaw was intuitive) and Godfather. Both games justified the Wii's revolutionary control scheme.

You're the perfect example of "setting the bar low"

that's one powerful bottom

[Himu]

I still don't see it when people say wii > gc

Sure, if you consider wii can play gc games.

[cool breeze]

Wii

trade in prices for Wii games are so much higher than 360 or PS3 games.  Even old DS games are higher than 360 and PS3 games. 

[Bebpo]

I still don't see it when people say wii > gc

Sure, if you consider wii can play gc games.

Yeah I just looked through my GC collection:

F-Zero GX
REmake
RE4
Killer 7 (definitive edition)
PN.03
Baten Kaitos
Baten Kaitos II
Tales of Symphonia
Viewtiful Joe
Viewtiful Joe 2
Pikmin
Pikmin 2
Donkey Kong Jungle Beat
Mario Sunshine
Wind Waker

Those are all A-quality games.  What does Wii have so far in that bracket?  
Mario Galaxy
NSMB Wii
maybe Tales of Graces
maybe No More Heroes

I left off Twilight Princess since both camps have it, SSB and Fire Emblem since both camps have it (basically the same game w/different maps).  Result is that so far Wii is in no way comparable at all on the high end of software libraries.  In the B/C quality range of decent gaming they're probably starting to get comparable.  But GC had far more AAA games.

[Nintendosbooger]

Nintendos consoles have less and less AAA games each gen.

Hate to break it to you, but for the possible exception of the NES/GB era, I sincerely doubt Nintendo is looking at any previous generation as fondly as this one. They're seeing record breaking sales and have wisely abandoned the fickle fanbase that barely kept them on life support the last generation. You can make reference to old GC games all you want but self-proclaimed hardcore gamers like you who talk a big game now never supported Nintendo on the same level their audience is doing now, and you honestly expect the Big N to heed your desires as a gamer? After how the "hardcore" fans literally abandoned them?

I'm glad Nintendo has given you all the middle finger while they're laughing all the way to the bank, depositing cash awarded from consumers WHO ACTUALLY BUY GAMES.

[Bebpo]

uh oh, it's sales-age time!  Who cares about the games?  We have the money!

[Human Snorenado]

Nintendos consoles have less and less AAA games each gen.

Hate to break it to you, but for the possible exception of the NES/GB era, I sincerely doubt Nintendo is looking at any previous generation as fondly as this one.

Which has FUCK ALL to do with the QUALITY of the games.  But as long as your precious Nintendo is making money, I guess you don't really give a shit if Saint Shiggy is devoting his time to catering to the lowest common denominator, whether it be the elderly, soccer moms or the autistic.

[Nintendosbooger]

uh oh, it's sales-age time!  Who cares about the games?  We have the money!

It's not about the money; Nintendo software is finally being recognized and appreciated by the masses on a level never seen and Nintendo deserves it. Are their marquee games more casual friendly these days? Sure. But even Jay-Z has to simplify some of his shit for the masses to get it, but that doesn't make his albums garbage or take away his position as one of the greatest of all time.

[Nintendosbooger]

Nintendos consoles have less and less AAA games each gen.

Hate to break it to you, but for the possible exception of the NES/GB era, I sincerely doubt Nintendo is looking at any previous generation as fondly as this one.

Which has FUCK ALL to do with the QUALITY of the games.  But as long as your precious Nintendo is making money, I guess you don't really give a shit if Saint Shiggy is devoting his time to catering to the lowest common denominator, whether it be the elderly, soccer moms or the autistic.

Oh, *now* we don't want to bring up sales, eh? Last gen ya'll were eating that shit up. What happened to all the "N1ntend0 4m d00med" and "handheld ghetto" rhetoric? Now that the story is flipped, you want to cry foul and crawl under a rock? Newsbreak: Quality is subjective, asshole. Now take your medicine and shut the fuck up.

[AdmiralViscen]

A brief history of my time with the wii:  played a bunch at friends houses, got party games for it, had a blast doing all that.  Mario Galaxy came out and was enchanting.  Super hyped for Smash Brawl because Melee on Gamecube was fun with friends.  Brawl was released, no one cared, Melee was more fun and that sorta killed the wii as a social thing for me.  Since then I went through phases where I was hoping there was still something to play, wanting to check out any notable release, annoyed that there was literally nothing for it.  Skip a head to now where I've come to peace with it.  I'm not playing it much but I'm also not going to sell it.  It will sit there, waiting, until a rare good game comes out.  C/D-tier games like Silent Hill and Muramasa are getting skipped until they're really cheap.  It's not just the Wii either since I have very little expectations for the Nintendo in general; the DS just had the advantage of good third party

 

complete agreement

[Human Snorenado]

When Nintendo makes good or great games (Galaxy) I'm the first person to admit it.  But what they're doing now is not in any shape or way related to videogames.  They're interactive toys for people who don't want to be challenged.  Wii Fit is not a videogame.  Wii Music sure as fuck isn't.  I'm sorry that your blind, childlike devotion to a company that could care less about you has blinded you to these simple truths, but there it is! 

As for taking my medicine... why would I give a shit?  Nintendo's "success" in catering to the elderly, soccer moms and my autistic nephew hasn't stopped proper games from being made for me to enjoy.  I played more great games in the past 12 months or so than I have since probably 2004, but only one of those was made by Nintendo or even on one of their systems.  If anything, I'm DISAPPOINTED in Nintendo for not even trying.  Shitting out Wii Butt Plug Extravaganza can't take any effort at all; it's the height of cynicism for them to keep mining that demographic.  Eventually it will backfire on them, tho.  It's kind of sad.  I mean at least in Sega's case, they forgot how to make good games... Nintendo just doesn't care enough to do it consistently.

[magus]

so games i think are worth a mention

Little King Story

this bears repetion,this is fucking goty material,this game is so awesome everything else implode out of the awesomeness of the game,it plays kinda like pikmin but unlike pikmin which bears barely any variety this game is totaly crazy and whack,if you still don't believe me just watch this spoilertastic video and then tell me that it isn't awesome if you can


Chocobo Mysterious Dungeon

good music remixes,nice job system,as a roguelike it's kinda too easy for veteran but that makes it more patable for people who scream like little girl when they lose all their experience,if you read japanese you can scratch this off the list because there is a ds port which actualy come with extra stuff

Opoona

ok ok i can already hear the laughs coming here and i didn't like it,why i'm putting this here? am i that desperate? nope! it's because this was probably the most fresh rpg coming out in the last 5 year,no fantasy setting,no sequel number attached to it,weird main character,wacky job related sidequest,this game was fresh! it's a shame the battle were boring and that most of the enviroment were empty

Punch-out

i don't understand why everybody forget about this,it was really fun and probably the most competent "old school reboot" i have ever seen,the pathethic sales are a slap to the face of the people that say that mario sells because of the "old school gameplay"

Zack & Wiki

it had some distinguished mentally-challenged design decision but otherwise it was a pretty original game and one of the few games out of a third party that made a good use of the wiimote

Mad World

it's repetitive,short and comes with boss that relies on QTE,it also has a rockin soundtrack,a weird art style and two guys who keep making stupid funny joke's (N.B i played this in italian which mean i got different jokes) and ehy bashing people head was the only good point of yakuza and it worked for that game!

The waggle Warioware/Wiisports/Wiisports resort combo

waggle game can be fun,not depth but fun!

Muramasa

plays better than odin sphere,still too repetitive and bland to really be called a masterpiece,at least it doesn't make you fight the same bosses 5 times,it's good but not great

Trauma Center

"but i played this on my ds" well yes but there is a sequel and you didn't play that on your ds! it's still awesome

Kororinpa

you like to roll balls,you'll like this also decent use of waggle

those One Piece game

i think i might be the only guy who played this because it was made by ganbarion (the guys who made jump ultimate super star) and not because it was a one piece game,it's a fairly standard action game but it's like a "collect stuff" maniac paradise,you get to fish and then you make a bag out of those fish and then you go catch beetles so they give you sap and you use sap to make glue to improve your fishing pole or to make sugar so you can cook cakes!

Mario Galaxy

no reason to put any text here

Twilight Princess

sure,sure you can play this on your gamecube but the wii version happened first so i'm calling dibs

Brawl

yes i love brawl! any problem with that? (i prefer melee tough)

mmm i think i could inflate this list a little more but then it would look more bloated,some title i wouldn't put in it for sure

(LIST OF BAD GAMES)

New Super Mario Bros
No More Heroes
i haven't played it but it can't be good - the Mario sports spinoff
Wii Music
i haven't played it but it can't be good - Wii Fit
Klonoa Remake
Deadly Creatures
Mario Kart
Metroid Prime (meh fps)
Fire Emblem (meh SRPG,SRPG that hate you by forcing you to restart a mission when one of the CPU unit dodge a hit with only the 5% of dodging and score a critical with again the 5% of doing it)
Capcom Shoddy Jobs (okami port,resident evil 4 wii,dead rising crappy port till you drop)
Final Fantasy Crystal Bearers
A Boy and his Blob has a sign to remind me it should be put here
Everything by Ubisoft
Everything by Sega
The Munchables
Elebits
Dewy Adventure
Animal Crossing
Let's Tap
The Conduit
i haven't played it but it can't be good - Castlevania Judgement
Tales Of Symphonia crappy spinoff
Disaster Day Of Crisis
Dragon Quest Swords
i haven't played it but it can't be good - that crappy soul calibur spinoff

dayum what a huge list of crap! maybe i should have put more title on the other side...

Yeah I just looked through my GC collection:

i don't think it's fair to compare the two library,gamecube had 6 years and half? wii barely has 3 years behind it

spoiler (click to show/hide)

and beside that list has PN 03 and killer 7 in it! and no my list with the one piece games is more awesome than your list

[close]

[Beezy]

I still don't see it when people say wii > gc

Sure, if you consider wii can play gc games.

Yeah I just looked through my GC collection:

F-Zero GX
REmake
RE4
Killer 7 (definitive edition)
PN.03
Baten Kaitos
Baten Kaitos II
Tales of Symphonia
Viewtiful Joe
Viewtiful Joe 2
Pikmin
Pikmin 2
Donkey Kong Jungle Beat
Mario Sunshine
Wind Waker

Those are all A-quality games.  What does Wii have so far in that bracket?  
Mario Galaxy
NSMB Wii
maybe Tales of Graces
maybe No More Heroes

I left off Twilight Princess since both camps have it, SSB and Fire Emblem since both camps have it (basically the same game w/different maps).  Result is that so far Wii is in no way comparable at all on the high end of software libraries.  In the B/C quality range of decent gaming they're probably starting to get comparable.  But GC had far more AAA games.

Icon Bebpo, leper Cohen.

[duckman2000]

Nintendos consoles have less and less AAA games each gen.

Hate to break it to you, but for the possible exception of the NES/GB era, I sincerely doubt Nintendo is looking at any previous generation as fondly as this one.

Which has FUCK ALL to do with the QUALITY of the games.  But as long as your precious Nintendo is making money, I guess you don't really give a shit if Saint Shiggy is devoting his time to catering to the lowest common denominator, whether it be the elderly, soccer moms or the autistic.

Oh, *now* we don't want to bring up sales, eh? Last gen ya'll were eating that shit up. What happened to all the "N1ntend0 4m d00med" and "handheld ghetto" rhetoric?

I'm pretty sure I've never been much for sales talk, but hey. I don't know who you're really addressing here, but "ya'll" would suggest that you're referring to some collective entity here, as if one actually existed. Good grief. Also, lulz @ more sales talk from some Wiiner.

Now, it's true that Nintendo isn't doomed. Longtime fans of Nintendo games (a group of people that we have learned are not necessarily interchangeable with "Nintendo fans") on the other hand may be doomed. Sales-age corporate slobbers such as yourself are probably quite merry.

[WrikaWrek]

For the family...yes.

[duckman2000]

My kid prefers Crackdown to any Wii game I've subjected her to. Her cousin, whose family only has a Wii, is gassed about coming over so that he can play Warhawk and other cool games. Even kids hate Wii, what a shocker. It's the preferred choice for wives and mothers, and they wield a lot of power. Also, grandmothers like it, because it's safe for the grandkids, who really just want to play good games like Crackdown and Warhawk.

Wii

By the way, can't we just make that an emoticon?

[AdmiralViscen]

this thread sucks now, wheres prole

[Flannel Boy]

He's probably busy playing Twilight Princess.

[bork]

I'm feeling generous. WiiWare gets ignored in these discussions.  I'll have no qualms gifting bit trip beat and rotohex to anyone that wants it. Probably my two favorite games on the service.

Those are GBA ports.

Here's my favorite Nintendosbooger quotes from today.

Waggle made RE4 perfect. I really cant imagine playing the game without motion controls.

Modern Warfare: Reflex (called the best version of MW by quite a few reputable news outlets)

Just stop, how can the `best version` not have multi?

I know you were just corrected,but you're a fine example of a very uninformed gamer and one of the reasons why the Wii is so demonized by the self-deluded "hardcore community."

Wii = Obama
HD fanboys = FOX News

Forgot to mention SSX: Blur. I had purchased it day one, and it's still one of the best snowboarding games on the market, with near-perfectly integrated motion controls.

Let me not fail to mention the early sandbox games for the Wii, specifically Scarface (motion controlled chainsaw was intuitive) and Godfather. Both games justified the Wii's revolutionary control scheme.

Blur is total garbage.  Only the blindest of N-fans would even think about listing that as even a halfway-decent title...which it's not.

Oh, *now* we don't want to bring up sales, eh? Last gen ya'll were eating that shit up. What happened to all the "N1ntend0 4m d00med" and "handheld ghetto" rhetoric? Now that the story is flipped, you want to cry foul and crawl under a rock? Newsbreak: Quality is subjective, asshole. Now take your medicine and shut the fuck up.

 

[Oblivion]

I can't believe there are still people -intelligent people, even - falling for Nintendobooger's obvious trolls. :/