Nintendo Wii: Does it really qualify as a videogame system?

[Beezy]

I don't know you anymore.

[bork]

I can't believe there are still people -intelligent people, even - falling for Nintendobooger's obvious trolls. :/

Nobody is falling for anything.  It's just having some fun -and total boredom-.

[The Sceneman]

"Flailing" your arms is probably the most exercise some of you fat-asses have seen since mandatory PE class, for which you've probably never dressed anyway.

The Wii has a great number of games that implement "waggle" either sparingly or correctly to produce the best of both worlds. Some developers like Konami. Capcom, WayForward, etc. are definitely getting it.

Developers are getting the hang of it, Sony wants to copy it (what else is new?), Microsoft wants a piece of the action, and gamers are loving it (refer to the 07-09 sales charts if you're lost at this point.)

Personally, I've had a blast with Silent Hill: SM, Link's Crossbow Training, NSMBWii, Wii Sports 1 + 2, Mario Kart Wii, Twilight Princess, Elebits, RE4Wii, RE:UC, and many many others.

lol, check the post your pic thread. The majority of EBers are sex gods

[magus]

Trauma Center Wii is omg awesome.  the sequel sucked, but I'd take the first one over half (or more) of the games on Bebpo's list.  Also listing multiplatform games

Gamecube

why you didn't like the sequel? i mean it's the same game only it comes with actual different missions

[magus]

i did but i didn't finish it,it didn't seems more unfair than the original

[bork]

This lineup here will help keep the Wii the #1 system this generation, so while you're drooling over review scores of games that won't ever achieve the level of success the Wii and its top games have seen, I'll be one of the tens of millions playing the sort of "shovelware" that's laughing at you and store shelf dust-collecting titles like Darksiders all the way to the bank.

You HD cocksuckers wouldn't get your panties in a bunch about sales-age rhetoric as much if you people actually bought video games. There is no reason why the top 10 software of this gen is occupied predominantly by Nintendo titles. Blame yourselves for talking a big game about HD titles but when they're released, you fuckers are nowhere to be seen, which is why HD sales this gen are embarrassingly dwarfed by the Wii. I actually buy games, not talk shit about buying games on forums such as this one.

That's why I couldn't care less if you downplay these great upcoming Wii titles. If these companies were in the business of catering to fickle outliers like you, they'd be bankrupt. So fuck your tastes.

What's a Wii?

The system that made Sony fanboys not want to talk about sales any more.

Because they were too busy playing real games.*

But not buying them: http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/newsArt.cfm?artid=20639

OooOooh, in your face!

i've had a wii for 8 months now and aside from loading up twilight princess to hack it i haven't played a wii game on it yet.

not even the appeal of free games can entice me enough to waste gaming time on it.

Your loss, guy.

Mario Galaxy
Metroid Prime 3
Resident Evil 4 Wii
Punch Out
Smash Bros
Wii Sports Resort
Wii Fit+
Muramasa
A Boy and His Blob
New SMBWii
No More Heroes
MadWorld

A lot more released and a lot more soon to be released, for sure. There's a reason why it's the top selling system with the top selling software this generation, and that's because it has games that HD bots wish could be on their overpriced consoles.

I'm a happy Wii owner and will continue to expand my existing Wii library with the swarm of excellent games soon to be released.

It's arguably the best home console system this generation, and only the second overall behind the DS.

What you HD fanboys can't seem to grasp is that no one outside of the universally ignored basement-dwelling community of gamers gives a kung-fu flying shit about your taste in games. If they did, HD console sales would actually reflect that and high impact "next-gen" games like FF13 wouldn't be selling on pace to match Square-Enix's shameless cash-in, FFX-2, in Japan.

The Wii is the system to own this generation. The games prove that and the numbers prove it. You don't like it? Then take your jilted asses to Gamestop and go fetch yourselves a copy of Darksiders, Demon Souls, or whatever the fuck it is you eye-candy zombies like to play -- trust me, there are PLENTY of copies of those games collecting dust on shelves.

I don't care what your gripe with the system is. The blockbuster first-party games on the Wii more than make up for its alleged third party software deficiency. Can we expect third party games on the Wii to be as good as Nintendo's? Of course not. No one can beat Nintendo at this game. No one. But do I feel that the third party games adequately supplement the Wii's enormously successful first party library, to combine for a complete and unforgettable gaming experience? Absolutely. While I'm waiting for Galaxy 2 to come out, I've been playing Silent Hill: SM, Muramasa, and others. Great games that will warm me up for an even greater game.

Why would I need a new TV? Outside of using the Wii and watching my 'Skins get pummeled, I have no reason to bother with it. Maybe when the price of the HD consoles plummet to a more reasonable price (<150), I'll get one of them along with a new set.

I've played games for both systems, on HD sets. Gears of War, for example, looked clean, but I wasn't impressed all that much. If Nintendo wanted to, they could make a game look just as good, but that's not their game and they've stated that repeatedly.

I'll take gameplay over graphics any day.

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"Flailing" your arms is probably the most exercise some of you fat-asses have seen since mandatory PE class, for which you've probably never dressed anyway.

Modern Warfare: Reflex (called the best version of MW by quite a few reputable news outlets)

Wii Sports (will end up in Guinness as the top selling game of all time, if it's not now)

Twilight Princess (hack and slash feature makes you feel like you're part of the game)

Wii Sports 2 (fencing game, perhaps the best competitive mini game to be released)

Wii = Obama
HD fanboys = FOX News

Forgot to mention SSX: Blur. I had purchased it day one, and it's still one of the best snowboarding games on the market, with near-perfectly integrated motion controls.

Let me not fail to mention the early sandbox games for the Wii, specifically Scarface (motion controlled chainsaw was intuitive) and Godfather. Both games justified the Wii's revolutionary control scheme.

Hate to break it to you, but for the possible exception of the NES/GB era, I sincerely doubt Nintendo is looking at any previous generation as fondly as this one. They're seeing record breaking sales and have wisely abandoned the fickle fanbase that barely kept them on life support the last generation. You can make reference to old GC games all you want but self-proclaimed hardcore gamers like you who talk a big game now never supported Nintendo on the same level their audience is doing now, and you honestly expect the Big N to heed your desires as a gamer? After how the "hardcore" fans literally abandoned them?

I'm glad Nintendo has given you all the middle finger while they're laughing all the way to the bank, depositing cash awarded from consumers WHO ACTUALLY BUY GAMES.

Oh, *now* we don't want to bring up sales, eh? Last gen ya'll were eating that shit up. What happened to all the "N1ntend0 4m d00med" and "handheld ghetto" rhetoric? Now that the story is flipped, you want to cry foul and crawl under a rock? Newsbreak: Quality is subjective, asshole. Now take your medicine and shut the fuck up.

uh oh, it's sales-age time!  Who cares about the games?  We have the money!

It's not about the money; Nintendo software is finally being recognized and appreciated by the masses on a level never seen and Nintendo deserves it. Are their marquee games more casual friendly these days? Sure. But even Jay-Z has to simplify some of his shit for the masses to get it, but that doesn't make his albums garbage or take away his position as one of the greatest of all time.

Well, I'm convinced.  Wii is clearly the dominant console.  Selling my 360, PS3, and HDTVs off tomorrow.

[Crushed]

delete thread, leper or ban everyone who posted in it, murder willco

[cool breeze]

Really?  My wife is actually one of the better Trauma Center players worldwide (not even joking here) and she picked up on all kinds of problems in the second one that aren't in the first one.  There are weird difficulty spikes and parts of the game where oing the same thing twice will result in different results (the DS version had similiar issues).  Overall it isn't a very polished game.

really? I bought New Blood for $10 when Amazon had it on sale a while ago because I liked he first DS game.  I had trouble with the DS game.  Is new blood that much harder?

[drew]

lyte edge i think you may have a bit too much time on your hands

[bork]

lyte edge i think you may have a bit too much time on your hands

Totally.  Super Mario Galaxy 2 is months and months away, so I have nothing else to do until then.   :'(

[Oblivion]

Well, glad Lyte's not taking this seriously.

[bork]

Well, glad Lyte's not taking this seriously.

You think anything said ITT is serious?   

[Beezy]

Really?  My wife is actually one of the better Trauma Center players worldwide (not even joking here) and she picked up on all kinds of problems in the second one that aren't in the first one.  There are weird difficulty spikes and parts of the game where oing the same thing twice will result in different results (the DS version had similiar issues).  Overall it isn't a very polished game.

really? I bought New Blood for $10 when Amazon had it on sale a while ago because I liked he first DS game.  I had trouble with the DS game.  Is new blood that much harder?

New Blood is a co-op game. I don't even know why there's a single player mode. It's impossible to beat. It's an amazing game if you have a partner though. It's one of the few Wii games that held my attention long enough for me to beat.

[Stoney Mason]

delete thread, leper or ban everyone who posted in it, murder willco

This.

This thread is as bad as the NPD threads at this point. I vote lock it up.

[Crushed]

Yeah Cohen, I have to ask about New Blood as well. I was super-hyped for it (Second Opinion was actually my first Wii game; I bought it before I even had the console), but the consistent talk of, "it's totally unbalanced for single-player" made me decide to skip it. Ever since that day, I've wondered if I made a terrible mistake. Assuage my guilty soul and tell me that my terrible choice was justified, as otherwise I have skipped a Trauma Center game for no reason, a crime most foul in the eyes of Heaven.

[Van Cruncheon]

delete thread, leper or ban everyone who posted in it, murder willco

cosign

[Purple Filth]

thread is officially garbage

[demi]

Well, glad Lyte's not taking this seriously.

You think anything said ITT is serious?   

You're completely ruining it.

[bork]

 :'(

[Sho Nuff]

KIYAP!!!

[Van Cruncheon]

AH RAAH CHAH CHAH CHAH CHAH CHAH CHAH CHAH!!!!11111

[EmCeeGrammar]

I'm feeling generous. WiiWare gets ignored in these discussions.  I'll have no qualms gifting bit trip beat and rotohex to anyone that wants it. Probably my two favorite games on the service.

Those are GBA ports.

No, bit trip beat is not what you think it is.  Look it up.

[bork]

(Image removed from quote.)

KIYAP!!!

That is some awesome hair. 

[bork]

Cool, I'll check it out.

[Crushed]

the truth is bitter, but at least i am absolved of my sins.

hopefully Trauma Team will be fuck-awesome

[magus]

Well, glad Lyte's not taking this seriously.

You think anything said ITT is serious?   

bu bu but i was serious  :'(

Yeah Cohen, I have to ask about New Blood as well. I was super-hyped for it (Second Opinion was actually my first Wii game; I bought it before I even had the console), but the consistent talk of, "it's totally unbalanced for single-player" made me decide to skip it. Ever since that day, I've wondered if I made a terrible mistake. Assuage my guilty soul and tell me that my terrible choice was justified, as otherwise I have skipped a Trauma Center game for no reason, a crime most foul in the eyes of Heaven.

The game is balanced for multiplayer, that much is true.  But the multiplayer has its own issues, and noting alleviates the fact that some of the missions are just plain broken.  My wife can still dominate the fuck out of the game, however, even on singleplayer (with the exception of the fuking heart transplant bullshit).  Overall it was a huge step backwards.

i went pretty far on my own on hard none the less,i surrended on a mission where you basicaly have to do all the previous mission all at once and when i say all at once i mean something like "6 diseases,3 rounds,2 disease at the same time each,repeat everytime you screw up on the last round") i wasn't man enough to put the game on easy or normal so i just quitted

[Van Cruncheon]

wiitards can only exercise when miyamoto-sama tells them to, unlike the rest of the actually fit world

[EmCeeGrammar]

wiitards can only exercise when miyamoto-sama tells them to, unlike the rest of the actually fit world

In wii fit's defense, my short stints with excercising where excruciatingly boring.  Im talking 3 hours a day, 5 days a week.  I kept it up for about a month until I really dreaded going back.  WiiFit I would say, "has good pacing" if you would understand that, although no its not going to be comparable to real cardio.

[pilonv1]

what the fuck were you training for where you needed to do three hours a day?

[EmCeeGrammar]

I was just trying to lose weight man.  I wasn't training for nothing.  I always have lots of free time.

[magus]

uh by the way here is the mission where i just said
"fuck it!"

[demi]

uh by the way here is the mission where i just said
"fuck it!"

lol. shoot bugs: the game

i think i had this downloaded to. i'll be sure to delete it.

[cool breeze]

I have trouble with normal Trauma Center and this is supposed to be hard with co-op and impossible wtih single player? damn.  I'm at least going to try New Blood before I sell it. 

[iconoclast]

The Wii Trauma Centers suck if only because the controls are shit compared to the DS.

[archie4208]

Trauma Center Wii is one of the best things about the system.  Pinpoint accurate controls.   Last gen PS3 and 360 annihilated.

New Blood was distinguished mentally-challenged hard, though.

[TakingBackSunday]

my questions to myself:

-do I have fun with it
-does it display an avatar on a screen that mimics my actions

-yes
-yes

so, meh.

[Van Cruncheon]

my questions to myself:

-do I have fun with it
-does it display an avatar on a screen that mimics my actions
-does my sister jump and jiggle a lot while playing it with me

-yes
-yes
-don't judge me

so, meh.

fixed.

[iconoclast]

The Wii Trauma Centers suck if only because the controls are shit compared to the DS.

I originally thought this as well, but having put more hours into both than I'd care to admit (and after watching my wife do some missions so fast that she wasn't able to get the highest rank because there wasn't enough points to score) I can tell you that youa re, in fact, wrong.

Well that's nice to hear, since I played 3 or 4 missions in New Blood before I decided the Wii controls were beyond awful. I'll give it another eventually.

Actually maybe I'll play some tonight between Dragon Age and Mushihime.

[Beezy]

I have trouble with normal Trauma Center and this is supposed to be hard with co-op and impossible wtih single player? damn.  I'm at least going to try New Blood before I sell it. 

It's not hard on co-op if both you and your partner played a Trauma Center game before on the DS or Wii.

Wasn't the first Trauma Center Wii game just a remake of the first DS game? I skipped it because of this.

[EmCeeGrammar]

Void is pretty awesome and its  a little more forgiving, although when it inverts your controls I get sad.  Core is some game I'm going to have to come back to because its a total mindfuck trying to keep track of four different quadrants.

[Ichirou]

If I buy a US Wii, can I still use the Freeloader to play JP games?

[MCD]

no one uses freeloader anymore.

homebrew that shit.

[Beezy]

You shouldn't have Beezy

It fixes all the problems the DS version had (stitches, bandages especially, and the DS deadzones are nonexistent) and nails the controls perfectly.

Oh okay, I guess I'll pick it up for cheap someday.

[Don Flamenco]

"Flailing" your arms is probably the most exercise some of you fat-asses have seen since mandatory PE class, for which you've probably never dressed anyway.

this is my favourite, and it's not the first time i've seen some Wiiaboo come out with it. It's like as soon as the Wii came out, Wiiaboos discovered exercise and thought that because they were playing "tennis" that they somehow "owned" exercising. Wii Fit made things worse. I'm not shitting you - the number of Nintendo fans who SUDDENLY discovered that EXERCISE can help you *GASP* lose weight was amazing. THANK YOU FOR SHOWING ME THE WAY, MAGICAL MIYAMOTO SAMA!

The fact that they suddenly shat up the internet with this "new found knowledge", acting like no one else has ever exercised before is the height of embarrassing. It just shows they are little more than yapping puppy dogs waiting for actual LIFE knowledge to drop from Miyamoto and co's plate. If you need Nintendo to point shit like this out to you, you should end yourselves.

wow!

[recursivelyenumerable]

I think that if DivDiv would've had regenerating enemies on top of that, it would have been just too overwhelming.

Well new builds of my code do occasionally introduce regressions, but I don't know that I can plausibly blame the IDE for that.

[EmCeeGrammar]

I think that if DivDiv would've had regenerating enemies on top of that, it would have been just too overwhelming.

Well new builds of my code do occasionally introduce regressions, but I don't know that I can plausibly blame the IDE for that.

[recursivelyenumerable]

To your limited perception, I appear to have posted in the wrong thread.  To your limited perception.