Nintendo in 2010: Part 2 (The DS)

[MCD]

XBLA need more platformers like that Indie game, Arkedo Jump.

no Braid plz.

[Himu]

Come to think of it XBLA is probably the best place since the 16 bit gen to play 2d (style) games. Shadow Complex, Trilas, Pacman CE, Galaga Legions, Geo Wars etc.  Man what an amazing system.

Even places like steam and psn have an overwhelming amount of recent 2d-style games with stuff like Bionic Commando: Rearmed. Hell, Pixeljunk Shooter just came out a few days ago.

[AdmiralViscen]

I think if we learned anything with regard to 2D/3D gaming this year, it's that 3D gaming isn't so much an evolution of 2D gaming, just an optional preference. 2D titles are still very much in the game thanks to Nintendo. Sony, as the former market leader, emphasized the shit out 3D gaming and cinematic presentation to the point where it was virtually taboo, until the Big N created the perfect platform for 2D developers and illustrated BY EXAMPLE that the 2D perspective is not only a viable gaming preference but more importantly a profitable one.

Weren't you just touting the DS' 3D capability? Keep your joke character consistent

Come to think of it XBLA is probably the best place since the 16 bit gen to play 2d (style) games. Shadow Complex, Trilas, Pacman CE, Galaga Legions, Geo Wars etc.  Man what an amazing system.

Splosion Man and Lode Runner too. 2010 was the rebirth of 2D.

[originalz]

Only DS game that matters is STYLE SAVVY!

Anyway, what's with that list on the first post?  It's very inconsistent, seeming to list games that come out for each region.

The Japanese DSi store is getting a lot of shooters, I almost want to buy an LL to play them, although I've heard they're nothing special.

[Nintendosbooger]

DS can do 3D fine, but I'll be the first to admit that Nintendo probably tailored the system with 2D gaming in mind, 3D secondary. Nintendo always engineers its systems to fit the framework of their future software titles, which is why most their portable games, including their more successful ones, are 2D games.

[tiesto]

Oh yeah, OP totally forgot 7th Dragon, which is supposedly coming to the US this year.

[Human Snorenado]

The DS does 3D just fine. It's the crappy developers who don't know wtf they're doing with respect to fundamental art design. Look at the Dragon Quest and FF remakes, all beautiful for the most part. Ask the 4 million+ DQIX owners in Japan (a record for the series, btw) if the DS's 3D "shortcomings" affect them.

BEAUTIFUL!

[Great Rumbler]

People on EB like talking about specific games, even ones that they hate.

People on EB don't drool all over lists of games.

[AdmiralViscen]

DS can do 3D fine, but I'll be the first to admit that Nintendo probably tailored the system with 2D gaming in mind, 3D secondary. Nintendo always engineers its systems to fit the framework of their future software titles, which is why most their portable games, including their more successful ones, are 2D games.

Nintendo tailors their systems these days to be pieces of shit ready for high markups.

[Flannel Boy]

DS can do 3D fine

 

[pilonv1]

DS can do 3D fine

[Olivia Wilde Homo]

The DS does 3D just fine. It's the crappy developers who don't know wtf they're doing with respect to fundamental art design. Look at the Dragon Quest and FF remakes, all beautiful for the most part. Ask the 4 million+ DQIX owners in Japan (a record for the series, btw) if the DS's 3D "shortcomings" affect them.

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BEAUTIFUL!

To be honest, there's more detail in that screenshot than what is there in Wii Fit Plus or Wii Music.

[drew]

wait

what

[Third]

Yeah, but SE developed the game. Not Nintendo.  
SE usually makes good use of the hardware.

[Human Snorenado]

The DS does 3D just fine. It's the crappy developers who don't know wtf they're doing with respect to fundamental art design. Look at the Dragon Quest and FF remakes, all beautiful for the most part. Ask the 4 million+ DQIX owners in Japan (a record for the series, btw) if the DS's 3D "shortcomings" affect them.

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BEAUTIFUL!

To be honest, there's more detail in that screenshot than what is there in Wii Fit Plus or Wii Music.

Further proof that DS > Wii, although it's not like any rational minded person believes otherwise.

[Beezy]

$300? That means they'd be stuck with a shitty LCD when they can join the glorious plasma master race.

actually you couldnt be more wrong, for just $50 more you can get a 32 inch set that looks just as good as a 52 inch sony bravia (yes i own both)

http://www.walmart.com/catalog/allReviews.do?product_id=10993794

its rated in a bunch of top ten lists all over the place especially given its price

distinguished black fellow please. It's still an inferior LCD.

Kuro Elites are king. that is all.

Damn right.

[drew]

Further proof that DS > Wii, although it's not like any rational minded person believes otherwise.

yeah theres no way thats anywhere near accurate

at least the wii has a good game every 3 years

[Human Snorenado]

Further proof that DS > Wii, although it's not like any rational minded person believes otherwise.

yeah theres no way thats anywhere near accurate

at least the wii has a good game every 3 years

No, really.  The DS has some quality software- idiot child even listed some in his op, unlike in the other thread.  I don't have a ds any more because I don't like handhelds and have no use for one, but even I'll admit that the DS' software library > the Wii's abortion of a library.

[Himu]

Further proof that DS > Wii, although it's not like any rational minded person believes otherwise.

yeah theres no way thats anywhere near accurate

at least the wii has a good game every 3 years

No.

[drew]

yes

im rubber and youre glue, whatever bounces off me sticks to you

[AdmiralViscen]

I just wish they'd stop crapping out Zeldas on it. Spirit Tracks is bumming me out.

[drew]

actually twilight princess was really good but im afraid theyll fuck up the next console zelda with waggle

[AdmiralViscen]

I just wish they'd stop crapping out Zeldas on it. Spirit Tracks is bumming me out.

I dunno if I'd call two games in five years crapping them out, but it's pretty clear the Zelda franchise on the whole needs a rest.

I wasn't talking about frequency, I was talking about the odor.

[Ichirou]

The DS is awesome.  I'm almost ready for a successor that can handle 3D better, but for a system that was basically cobbled together as a stall tactic against the PSP, I think the DS has kicked a lot of ass.  Lots of stuff to buy this year, too, depending on the kinds of games you like.

The DSi is the successor, I'm pretty sure we won't see any upgraded Nintendo handheld hardware (that's not some sort of DSi variation like the LL/XL) for at least another three years.

[Eel O'Brian]

did you hear if the psp2 has another analog stick locked down, or are sony still living la vida slowca

[TakingBackSunday]

DSi a failed experiment?  really?  don't they sell more of those then the Lite's?

[demi]

DSi a failed experiment?  really?  don't they sell more of those then the Lite's?

Hell yeah its a failed experiment, it was a piracy countermeasure and that was pwned instantly.

[TakingBackSunday]

oh....well sure, in that regard, I guess.

[Nintendosbooger]

DSi a failed experiment?  really?  don't they sell more of those then the Lite's?

You have to refrain from bringing up sales into any argument here. These fellas get their cherry-colored panties all twisted when you introduce something as shamelessly subjective as hard numbers to validate anything.

[drew]

this is one of the only hobbies besides movies where fanfags talk about sales numbers, fishermen dont go back and forth about recent lure sales at cabelas, they talk about, you know, what is actually good, you and your ilk are an anomaly, and a damn disease

[Human Snorenado]

What's awesome is that last gen when they couldn't really talk about sales numbers (lol gamecube 'n all) they'd try to play the "quality" card, but now they're content to play the "quantity" card.

[Nintendosbooger]

What's awesome is that last gen when they couldn't really talk about sales numbers (lol gamecube 'n all) they'd try to play the "quality" card, but now they're content to play the "quantity" card.

Now you're making shit up. No self-respecting Nintendo fan claimed GC had the better games. Did it have enough to justify its purchase? Sure, many times over, but the PS2 was king for a good reason.

[Beezy]

Now you're making shit up. No self-respecting Nintendo fan claimed GC had the better games.

You have a bad memory.

[Nintendosbooger]

Now you're making shit up. No self-respecting Nintendo fan claimed GC had the better games.

You have a bad memory.

No, I wasn't really around for all of that. I was actually BUYING and PLAYING games, not being a loser like you by recording/memorizing the alleged claims of system fans.

[bork]

DSi a failed experiment?  really?  don't they sell more of those then the Lite's?

You have to refrain from bringing up sales into any argument here. These fellas get their cherry-colored panties all twisted when you introduce something as shamelessly subjective as hard numbers to validate anything.

What do sales numbers prove?  Some of the biggest pieces of shit -in any form of media- have sold truckloads.  You keep bringing up sales numbers again and again...because you have nothing else to talk about.

[bork]

oh....well sure, in that regard, I guess.

Nothing big has come out to take advantage of the DSi's upgraded features, but you really have to wonder what Nintendo was thinking by making a system that could potentially split its userbase.

[duckman2000]

Now you're making shit up. No self-respecting Nintendo fan claimed GC had the better games.

You have a bad memory.

No, I wasn't really around for all of that. I was actually BUYING and PLAYING games, not being a loser like you by recording/memorizing the alleged claims of system fans.

If you weren't really around for all of that, then why are you making bold assertions about it?

[GilloD]

Thanks for the crazy list, Nintendosbooger. I like that the DS is maybe the last bastion of weirdo niche titles out there.

[Olivia Wilde Homo]

I agree about the DSi being a stopgap.  It had a few new things in it but in the typical Nintendo way: ie, old and unambitious in every aspect but is meant to keep people playing on unambitious 2004 hardware.

Since we already know about the processor the DS successor will have, it's clear that Nintendo has been shopping around this year to see what should go in the DS2.  Which is why I think 2011 is the year it will happen.  Nintendo probably already has the thing spec'd out and is no doubt working on the next Mario Kart and Zelda iteration on it as per usual.

Though it would be interesting if it wound up being a portable Game Cube that would play GC disks, which you could also play on the Wii and the Wiii to come later.

[Purple Filth]

ds2 will use exactly the same carts as DS.

anything on psp2?

memory stick?
new media?
no media?
return of UMD?

[archie4208]

The DSi XL looks sexy.  I want one of those dark red ones.

[tiesto]

The DSi XL looks sexy.  I want one of those dark red ones.

Is the DSi LL getting a US release?

[AdmiralViscen]

DSi a failed experiment?  really?  don't they sell more of those then the Lite's?

You have to refrain from bringing up sales into any argument here. These fellas get their cherry-colored panties all twisted when you introduce something as shamelessly subjective as hard numbers to validate anything.

Mentioning sales in the context of success/failure makes a lot more sense than when talking about graphics or quality.

Now you're making shit up. No self-respecting Nintendo fan claimed GC had the better games.

You have a bad memory.

No, I wasn't really around for all of that. I was actually BUYING and PLAYING games, not being a loser like you by recording/memorizing the alleged claims of system fans.

You sure seem to have the time for "all of that" now. LOL

[TakingBackSunday]

oh....well sure, in that regard, I guess.

Nothing big has come out to take advantage of the DSi's upgraded features, but you really have to wonder what Nintendo was thinking by making a system that could potentially split its userbase.

Has that really proved to be a real problem?  IIRC, the DS Lite was declining every single month in Japan and the PSP was outselling it.  I don't think it's out of the ordinary to assume that the DSi was for invigoration in its home market.  In terms of America, I'm no authority to make any sort of guess about how the Lite was doing here before the DSi...I imagine quite well?

Yeah, I'll agree with you about its features not getting enough focus.  Typical Nintendo.  Why they haven't done a Virtual Handheld service yet, beats me.