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http://www.tmz.com/2010/01/07/jay-leno-nbc-conan-obrien-tonight-show/

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We've learned Jay's 10:00 PM show will go on hiatus February 1. After the Olympics, Jay will take back his 11:30 PM time slot. What has not been decided -- whether Jay's show will be a half hour, followed by Conan, or whether Jay's show will be an hour and NBC says sayonara to Mr. O'Brien.

We're told Jay and Conan have both been told of the changes. As for Jay, interestingly, he'll get what he always wanted -- his 11:30 PM time slot.

UPDATE: A rep for NBC tells TMZ: "Jay Leno is one of the most compelling entertainers in the world today. As we have said all along, Jay's show has performed exactly as we anticipated on the network. It has, however, presented some issues for our affiliates. Both Jay and the show are committed to working closely with them to find ways to improve the performance."
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Re: Leno returns to 11:30pm...no word on Conan's fate yet
« Reply #1 on: January 07, 2010, 04:58:03 PM »
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I'll follow Conan wherever he ends up.
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Re: Leno returns to 11:30pm...no word on Conan's fate yet
« Reply #2 on: January 07, 2010, 05:03:53 PM »
fuck Leno
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Re: Leno returns to 11:30pm...no word on Conan's fate yet
« Reply #3 on: January 07, 2010, 05:04:59 PM »
jesus christ, poor conan
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Re: Leno returns to 11:30pm...no word on Conan's fate yet
« Reply #4 on: January 07, 2010, 05:05:48 PM »
jesus christ, poor conan

He was never comfortable at 11:30, and his stuff doesn't do well at that timeslot.  Probably the best thing for him, honestly.
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Re: Leno returns to 11:30pm...no word on Conan's fate yet
« Reply #5 on: January 07, 2010, 05:08:37 PM »
jesus christ, poor conan

He was never comfortable at 11:30, and his stuff doesn't do well at that timeslot.  Probably the best thing for him, honestly.

Yea, but does this mean he even gets his old show back? Doesn't seem like it. The whole thing is just a clusterfuck.
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Re: Leno returns to 11:30pm...no word on Conan's fate yet
« Reply #6 on: January 07, 2010, 05:08:59 PM »
conan actually needs to be on at 10
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Re: Leno returns to 11:30pm...no word on Conan's fate yet
« Reply #7 on: January 07, 2010, 05:09:20 PM »
Wow.


Awkward.



Leno is wretched but then that matches the taste of most people.

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Re: Leno returns to 11:30pm...no word on Conan's fate yet
« Reply #8 on: January 07, 2010, 05:09:34 PM »
http://mediadecoder.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/01/07/nbc-may-be-considering-reinstating-leno-on-tonight-show/

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NBC executives held discussions with both Jay Leno and Conan O’Brien Thursday about the future of the network’s late-night lineup. And while executives said that no final decision has been made, they did not deny that the network is considering moves that could include returning Mr. Leno to his old job as host of “The Tonight Show.”

NBC executives said a decision would definitely not be announced Thursday but did not deny a report posted by the website TMZ that NBC was considering making the switch and replacing Mr. O’Brien at “Tonight” with Mr. Leno.

TMZ reported that NBC would make the move soon to take advantage of the natural break in its schedule when it covers the Winter Olympics next month.

The late-night discussions at NBC are directly related to pressure that has been brought on NBC by its affiliated stations, which have seen ratings for their 11 p.m. local newscasts plummet this television season because of much-weakened lead-in audiences from the network in the 10 p.m. hour.

That hour has been filled by Mr. Leno’s new prime-time show. NBC has said for months that Mr. Leno’s ratings were not out of line with what they had promised to advertisers but they acknowledged that they had underestimated the negative impact on the affiliated stations.

Mr. O’Brien, meanwhile, has seen his own ratings suffer. He has trailed the CBS late-night star David Letterman by about 2 million viewers a night – Mr. Leno had easily been the winner in that time period previously.

If Mr. Leno does return to his old 11:35 p.m. there is some question about what will happen with Mr. O’Brien. He had been recruited by other networks in the past but how his contract might be resolved and how his experience at “Tonight” might affect his future prospects are unknown factors.

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« Reply #9 on: January 07, 2010, 05:10:01 PM »
conan actually needs to be on at 10

Screw that. I want 10 pm primetime programming back. Conan was better at 12:30 am, he lost a lot of that magic when he went to 11:30 pm.
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Re: Leno returns to 11:30pm...no word on Conan's fate yet
« Reply #10 on: January 07, 2010, 05:11:43 PM »
Awkwarrrrrrd.
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« Reply #11 on: January 07, 2010, 05:12:13 PM »
Conan on FOX late night?
 
I don't really care, since I haven't watched any late night show with any sort of frequency in years.
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Re: Leno returns to 11:30pm...no word on Conan's fate yet
« Reply #12 on: January 07, 2010, 05:12:20 PM »
conan actually needs to be on at 10

That still doesn't fix the affiliate lead in problem

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« Reply #13 on: January 07, 2010, 05:12:31 PM »
doesn't appear they're even considering the potential backlash, i think leno's going to come off looking like a villain here
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« Reply #14 on: January 07, 2010, 05:14:03 PM »
come on, how many of you even watch network tv at 10 anyway
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Re: Leno returns to 11:30pm...no word on Conan's fate yet
« Reply #15 on: January 07, 2010, 05:14:35 PM »
conan actually needs to be on at 10

That still doesn't fix the affiliate lead in problem

it certainly would fix my not staying up to watch conan problem
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« Reply #16 on: January 07, 2010, 05:16:06 PM »
doesn't appear they're even considering the potential backlash, i think leno's going to come off looking like a villain here

yeah, definitely
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Re: Leno returns to 11:30pm...no word on Conan's fate yet
« Reply #17 on: January 07, 2010, 05:17:26 PM »
wait so conan wont be hosting the tonight show anymore?

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« Reply #18 on: January 07, 2010, 05:23:19 PM »
This is terrible.
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« Reply #19 on: January 07, 2010, 05:27:55 PM »
There won't be a backlash. Grandma won't give a fuck as long as she can get her newspaper typos at the time she was used to.
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Re: Leno returns to 11:30pm...no word on Conan's fate yet
« Reply #20 on: January 07, 2010, 05:32:31 PM »
There will be a backlash.
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Re: Leno returns to 11:30pm...no word on Conan's fate yet
« Reply #21 on: January 07, 2010, 05:36:57 PM »
well, to be honest i don't really care either, but it's pretty obvious (whether one likes him or not) that conan got kind of a raw deal

leno got pushed out the door before his time was up, sure, but he certainly didn't have to be a sulky baby about it and steal all o'brien's thunder before he really even had the chance to start

...and that's more time than i should have spent thinking about two shows i don't watch
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Re: Leno returns to 11:30pm...no word on Conan's fate yet
« Reply #22 on: January 07, 2010, 05:45:21 PM »
i will continue watching both on my 52 inch bravia because they make my ass bleed

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Re: Leno returns to 11:30pm...no word on Conan's fate yet
« Reply #23 on: January 07, 2010, 05:47:31 PM »
The thing is, Craig Ferguson is the only good late nite talk show host.

As long has he has a job, I don't give a fuck.
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Re: Leno returns to 11:30pm...no word on Conan's fate yet
« Reply #24 on: January 07, 2010, 06:07:39 PM »
http://warmingglow.uproxx.com/2010/01/f-this

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Just to recap: NBC promised “The Tonight Show” to Conan in 2004, and Leno agreed to step down when the time came. Except when the time came, Leno said he wanted to stay on the air, hence “The Jay Leno Show” at 10 o’clock, which quickly became one of the greatest programming f*ck-ups in network history. As Leno’s unwatched show was torpedoing viewership of NBC local news and the new “Tonight Show,” he openly lobbied to get his 11:30 slot back.

Gosh, what an awesome guy. If he’s not too busy during the Olympics, maybe he’d like to come over and get my sister pregnant, wait six months, then punch her in the stomach until she miscarries.

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Re: Leno returns to 11:30pm...no word on Conan's fate yet
« Reply #25 on: January 07, 2010, 06:29:22 PM »
I think Conan is overrated but he was struggling, ratings wise and diluted his material for the time slot (or is getting worse)

You guys who like him should be happy.  Conan won't have trouble finding work.
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« Reply #26 on: January 07, 2010, 06:32:08 PM »
http://warmingglow.uproxx.com/2010/01/f-this

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Just to recap: NBC promised “The Tonight Show” to Conan in 2004, and Leno agreed to step down when the time came. Except when the time came, Leno said he wanted to stay on the air, hence “The Jay Leno Show” at 10 o’clock, which quickly became one of the greatest programming f*ck-ups in network history. As Leno’s unwatched show was torpedoing viewership of NBC local news and the new “Tonight Show,” he openly lobbied to get his 11:30 slot back.

Gosh, what an awesome guy. If he’s not too busy during the Olympics, maybe he’d like to come over and get my sister pregnant, wait six months, then punch her in the stomach until she miscarries.

:lol

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Re: Leno returns to 11:30pm...no word on Conan's fate yet
« Reply #27 on: January 07, 2010, 06:41:08 PM »
so is he or is he not still hosting the tonight show?

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Re: Leno returns to 11:30pm...no word on Conan's fate yet
« Reply #28 on: January 07, 2010, 06:52:00 PM »
Damn, I like Conan. :(
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Re: Leno returns to 11:30pm...no word on Conan's fate yet
« Reply #29 on: January 07, 2010, 07:41:29 PM »
Fuck NBC.  I'll follow Conan wherever he ends up.  Dude is the only worthwhile late night host next to Ferguson.
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Re: Leno returns to 11:30pm...no word on Conan's fate yet
« Reply #30 on: January 07, 2010, 07:46:56 PM »
I kind of want to punch Jay Leno in the face now.
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Re: Leno returns to 11:30pm...no word on Conan's fate yet
« Reply #31 on: January 07, 2010, 07:49:35 PM »
Now?
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Re: Leno returns to 11:30pm...no word on Conan's fate yet
« Reply #32 on: January 07, 2010, 07:50:00 PM »
Yeah, I didn't give a shit about the guy before.
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Re: Leno returns to 11:30pm...no word on Conan's fate yet
« Reply #33 on: January 07, 2010, 07:54:39 PM »
the guy's always been a prick when in discussion of the whole late night fiasco.  he's a cancer.
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« Reply #34 on: January 07, 2010, 08:02:07 PM »
come on, how many of you even watch network tv at 10 anyway

I do, sometimes.
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Re: Leno returns to 11:30pm...no word on Conan's fate yet
« Reply #35 on: January 07, 2010, 08:12:54 PM »
Conan web show plz.
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« Reply #36 on: January 07, 2010, 08:58:52 PM »
Conan web show plz.

Came in here to post this. Make an unscripted web show with material like that of Strike-Beard Conan. Would be the greatest thing ever created.

I love Conan, but he's been suffering on Tonight. NBC is going to drag him down if he doesn't jump ship.

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« Reply #37 on: January 07, 2010, 09:03:19 PM »
Jesus, knew Leno was a prick but didn't think he would do this to Conan. Conan needs to take his writers/andy and maybe ditch the talk show format.
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Re: Leno returns to 11:30pm...no word on Conan's fate yet
« Reply #38 on: January 07, 2010, 09:17:10 PM »
Jesus, knew Leno was a prick but didn't think he would do this to Conan. Conan needs to take his writers/andy and maybe ditch the talk show format.
This.

NBC HAS to be kidding...
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« Reply #39 on: January 07, 2010, 10:17:47 PM »
Conan got royally screwed. And what a colossal mess for NBC, after spending all that money on a brand new, multi-million dollar set (and one for Leno too!), the outrageous marketing campaign, shitbinning their network program for Leno, etc.
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« Reply #40 on: January 07, 2010, 10:32:58 PM »
doesn't appear they're even considering the potential backlash, i think leno's going to come off looking like a villain here

If he wasn't the villain in 1992 why would he be now? Conan is the one who forced him off the Tonight Show, and then ruined the Tonight Show's ratings.

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« Reply #41 on: January 07, 2010, 10:38:46 PM »
Apparently Leno is gonna do a half hour at 11:30 and Conan gets bumped to 12.  I'm guessing a lot of this actually has to do with local affiliates bitching about shitty ratings for their 11 o'clock news lead in.  Of course, I wonder how long this "Leno only gets half an hour" thing will last.  Eh, if allows Conan to be funnier then I guess I'm all for it but I don't see how it isn't ultimately doomed to fail.
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Re: Leno returns to 11:30pm...no word on Conan's fate yet
« Reply #42 on: January 07, 2010, 10:41:28 PM »
Yea, that idea sounds even worse than the last idea. Just bump that loser Fallon and put things back the way they were.

Or better yet, Conan should go to Fox.

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« Reply #43 on: January 07, 2010, 10:54:33 PM »
doesn't appear they're even considering the potential backlash, i think leno's going to come off looking like a villain here

If he wasn't the villain in 1992 why would he be now? Conan is the one who forced him off the Tonight Show, and then ruined the Tonight Show's ratings.

Conan didn't do fucking shit.
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« Reply #45 on: January 07, 2010, 10:56:03 PM »
doesn't appear they're even considering the potential backlash, i think leno's going to come off looking like a villain here

If he wasn't the villain in 1992 why would he be now? Conan is the one who forced him off the Tonight Show, and then ruined the Tonight Show's ratings.

Conan didn't do fucking shit.

He got himself a contract that either gave him the Tonight Show in 2009 or he walked with a huge severance.

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« Reply #46 on: January 07, 2010, 10:56:03 PM »
doesn't appear they're even considering the potential backlash, i think leno's going to come off looking like a villain here

If he wasn't the villain in 1992 why would he be now? Conan is the one who forced him off the Tonight Show, and then ruined the Tonight Show's ratings.

I agree.

Conan fans getting all butthurt but Conan is drowning ratings wise and half of these people complaining were complaining about the sliding quality of Conan's show.  So is Leno's new show but TBH, it always seemed like Conan was on probation with Leno waiting to jump in if Conan is flopping at the new slot, which he is.  I mean, who in Conan's target demographic watches his show?  Half of them are probably watching Colbert and the other half are noodling around Youtube at that time for the latest Conan shit.

Conan will get the half hour show, still limp along, and then put out to pasture shortly afterwards.  Conan is better off at another network.
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Re: Leno returns to 11:30pm...no word on Conan's fate yet
« Reply #48 on: January 07, 2010, 10:59:16 PM »
doesn't appear they're even considering the potential backlash, i think leno's going to come off looking like a villain here

If he wasn't the villain in 1992 why would he be now? Conan is the one who forced him off the Tonight Show, and then ruined the Tonight Show's ratings.

Who the hell wouldn't take the Tonight Show if you had both Leno and the network's blessings?  I encourage you to read more into the history of the deal, AVClub had a wonderful piece on it a few months back.
Conan didn't do fucking shit.

He got himself a contract that either gave him the Tonight Show in 2009 or he walked with a huge severance.

edit: wtf I thought I posted something  :lol

anyhoo, what I was going to say was: Who wouldn't take the Tonight Show if you had both Leno and the network's blessing at the time?  I encourage you to read more of the history of the deal, AVClub had a fascinating article on it a few months back.
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Re: Leno returns to 11:30pm...no word on Conan's fate yet
« Reply #49 on: January 07, 2010, 11:02:06 PM »
If there is proof that Leno was more than happy to drop the show he spent his entire life squirming his way into, just post it.

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« Reply #50 on: January 07, 2010, 11:04:21 PM »
Let Conan be weird again!! Send him back to New York!!!

Bring back masturbating bear!!!
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« Reply #51 on: January 08, 2010, 12:30:45 AM »
anyhoo, what I was going to say was: Who wouldn't take the Tonight Show if you had both Leno and the network's blessing at the time?  I encourage you to read more of the history of the deal, AVClub had a fascinating article on it a few months back.

Do you  have a link?  Just searching AVClub for "Conan" or "Leno" yields too many results to sort through...

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« Reply #52 on: January 08, 2010, 12:31:32 AM »
anyhoo, what I was going to say was: Who wouldn't take the Tonight Show if you had both Leno and the network's blessing at the time?  I encourage you to read more of the history of the deal, AVClub had a fascinating article on it a few months back.

Do you  have a link?  Just searching AVClub for "Conan" or "Leno" yields too many results to sort through...

same here
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« Reply #53 on: January 08, 2010, 12:33:10 AM »
I'll hunt for it, just a moment.

edit: hm, actually it may have been a newsweek piece, one sec
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« Reply #54 on: January 08, 2010, 12:53:12 AM »
Dammit I can't find it.  I know that it was super long and detailed every little twist and turn of the deal.  It puts Leno in an even worse light, because he really IS a cocksucker.

edit: I'll dig around the few gaf threads that went up around the time on the transition
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« Reply #55 on: January 08, 2010, 12:58:35 AM »
i subscribe to the av club rss, i knew i wouldn't have missed that shit
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« Reply #56 on: January 08, 2010, 01:00:36 AM »
It came out around the break between Conan leaving Late Night and beginning the Tonight Show. 
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« Reply #57 on: January 08, 2010, 01:04:37 AM »
FOUND IT.  I'm dumb, it was a NY Times article.  7 pages long!
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/24/magazine/24Conan-t.html?_r=2
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Re: Leno returns to 11:30pm...no word on Conan's fate yet
« Reply #58 on: January 08, 2010, 03:15:59 AM »
That article is so busy sucking off Conan that it didn't meantion the origin of the initial deal (unless I missed it).

In 2004 Conan was goin to go to ABC for an 11:30 show directly competing against Leno. NBC paniced and promised him the Tonight Show. Then when Leno (who WAS still #1 in ratings) was about to leave to ABC for an 11:30 show they bent over backwards to keep him.

Conan fans can call Leno whatever they want but the 11:30 ratings dint lie and he was more popular in that timeslot.
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Re: Leno returns to 11:30pm...no word on Conan's fate yet
« Reply #59 on: January 08, 2010, 03:25:56 AM »
As far as I remember, Conan wasn't going to do anything, he was just getting calls from ABC since ABC was planning on starting a new show and were poking around for potential hosts.  How about you just sucking in general, manabyte.
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