Author Topic: Conan's career is over, Leno returns to his rightful throne as King of Late Nite (Read 127156 times)

Himu · « **Reply #480 on:** January 14, 2010, 02:08:02 PM »

Yep, unless Leno walks (unlikely despite his name being tarnished due to bad press) or NBC gets rid of Leno, Conan is done.

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #481 on:** January 14, 2010, 02:09:29 PM »

Well, I don't believe any of that, but we'll see.

Also, I myself wouldn't mind him going to cable.

drew · « **Reply #482 on:** January 14, 2010, 02:10:53 PM »

just started letterman, oh my god this show is so bad, why do old guys like to give their musicians microphones

The Fake Shemp · « **Reply #483 on:** January 14, 2010, 02:11:18 PM »

If he goes to cable, he'll get a budget that will look meek in comparison to his Late Night budget. And I would agree, I can't imagine it lasting for long. When your options are to go out with a bang and retire from hosting with some dignity or try to limp along on a cable or Fox, then I'd take the former.

The guy is rich, he already has a production company. Become a showrunner, create something funny and inventive. Rebrand yourself. That would be the smart thing to do.

The Fake Shemp · « **Reply #484 on:** January 14, 2010, 02:15:25 PM »

Yeah, that's why I recommend he use his production company to become a showrunner. Create and write a television show! Heck, you can do it for Fox!

Raban · « **Reply #485 on:** January 14, 2010, 02:16:21 PM »

Quote from: The Fake Shemp on January 14, 2010, 02:15:25 PM

Yeah, that's why I recommend he use his production company to become a showrunner. Create and write a television show! Heck, you can do it for Fox!

You kidding? He'll get cancelled in LESS than seven months.

I agree with the idea of him becoming a showrunner. I really hope Stern shows up on the show next week.

CajoleJuice · « **Reply #486 on:** January 14, 2010, 02:17:39 PM »

I won't pretend to know what he will or should do. It's nice to see him going out with a bang, though.

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #487 on:** January 14, 2010, 02:20:03 PM »

I like him as a talk show host though, I've been watching him for nearly ten years now. It's part of my day, to be honest.

Just as long as he continues to do something that I can watch, I'll follow him.

Howard Alan Treesong · « **Reply #488 on:** January 14, 2010, 02:24:07 PM »

the Stuff White People like article hit the nail on the head - people on the internet "love" Conan, but they sure don't watch his show

he needs to go to HBO and make Mr. Show 2: Show Harder

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #489 on:** January 14, 2010, 02:26:24 PM »

I watch it :'(

The Fake Shemp · « **Reply #490 on:** January 14, 2010, 02:28:30 PM »

Look, he had an impressive run on Late Night and some great bits on The Tonight Show (he just could never piece together a great show for that slot). Guy has been doing late night television for almost twenty years. He had a good run.

I'm with Patel. He should hang it up, and if his interview with Gervais is any indication, we'll have a week-plus of compelling television until Zucker has enough and pulls him off the air. He should go to HBO and create a new show. He seems to get along with Gervais. I'd pay good money to see a comedy show run by Gervais and Conan.

Raban · « **Reply #491 on:** January 14, 2010, 02:30:48 PM »

Quote from: The Fake Shemp on January 14, 2010, 02:28:30 PM

Look, he had an impressive run on Late Night and some great bits on The Tonight Show (he just could never piece together a great show for that slot). Guy has been doing late night television for almost twenty years. He had a good run.

I'm with Patel. He should hang it up, and if his interview with Gervais is any indication, we'll have a week-plus of compelling television until Zucker has enough and pulls him off the air. He should go to HBO and create a new show. He seems to get along with Gervais. I'd pay good money to see a comedy show run by Gervais and Conan.

I just went from 6 to Midnight.

CajoleJuice · « **Reply #492 on:** January 14, 2010, 02:31:09 PM »

Quote from: Synthesizer Patel on January 14, 2010, 02:24:07 PM

the Stuff White People like article hit the nail on the head - people on the internet "love" Conan, but they sure don't watch his show

I would if I had a Nielsen box.

Seriously, does anyone know anyone who has one?

CajoleJuice · « **Reply #493 on:** January 14, 2010, 02:39:21 PM »

No one? THOUGHT SO

Flannel Boy · « **Reply #494 on:** January 14, 2010, 02:39:57 PM »

Quote from: CajoleJuice on January 14, 2010, 02:31:09 PM

Quote from: Synthesizer Patel on January 14, 2010, 02:24:07 PM
the Stuff White People like article hit the nail on the head - people on the internet "love" Conan, but they sure don't watch his show

I would if I had a Nielsen box.

Seriously, does anyone know anyone who has one?

shitheads.

Mr. Gundam · « **Reply #495 on:** January 14, 2010, 02:42:51 PM »

Quote from: CajoleJuice on January 14, 2010, 02:31:09 PM

Quote from: Synthesizer Patel on January 14, 2010, 02:24:07 PM
the Stuff White People like article hit the nail on the head - people on the internet "love" Conan, but they sure don't watch his show

I would if I had a Nielsen box.

Seriously, does anyone know anyone who has one?

My wife had one for a couple years when she was like 13.

Howard Alan Treesong · « **Reply #496 on:** January 14, 2010, 02:53:17 PM »

Quote from: Green Man on January 14, 2010, 02:49:20 PM

http://www.suntimes.com/entertainment/1991307,jay-leno-conan-obrien-feud-011410.article

Jesus.

don't read the comments unless you want to see people talking about what a nice boy that Leno is

Flannel Boy · « **Reply #497 on:** January 14, 2010, 02:54:20 PM »

Quote from: Green Man on January 14, 2010, 02:49:20 PM

http://www.suntimes.com/entertainment/1991307,jay-leno-conan-obrien-feud-011410.article

Jesus.

Leno is the everyman, the Joe-Lunchbox, strolling through his garage full of hundreds of exotic cars.

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #498 on:** January 14, 2010, 02:55:31 PM »

comments on any news story are just $:-\$

Flannel Boy · « **Reply #499 on:** January 14, 2010, 02:57:05 PM »

the people have spoken

Himu · « **Reply #500 on:** January 14, 2010, 02:58:10 PM »

We totally need a jay leno

emoticon

Look at that.

That exudes

Fuck it. I'm making it.

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #501 on:** January 14, 2010, 03:00:42 PM »

yeah it's pretty perfect

:santocry

that works for conan

CajoleJuice · « **Reply #502 on:** January 14, 2010, 03:00:57 PM »

thirded

Mandark · « **Reply #503 on:** January 14, 2010, 03:03:13 PM »

Quote from: Synthesizer Patel on January 14, 2010, 02:24:07 PM

the Stuff White People like article hit the nail on the head - people on the internet "love" Conan, but they sure don't watch his show

he needs to go to HBO and make Mr. Show 2: Show Harder

Wait, are we trying to increase his ratio of professed fans to actual viewers? Mr. Show is distilled SWPL.

Flannel Boy · « **Reply #504 on:** January 14, 2010, 03:03:20 PM »

Quote from: Green Man on January 14, 2010, 03:01:28 PM

I wish I could send Conan a letter.

You'll be able to afford that stamp one day.

Flannel Boy · « **Reply #505 on:** January 14, 2010, 03:05:25 PM »

Quote from: Green Man on January 14, 2010, 03:04:41 PM

I want to send one directly to him. I feel like at this point NBC is going to steal all his mail.

NBC won't; Leno will.

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #506 on:** January 14, 2010, 03:05:48 PM »

conebone69@nbc.com

drew · « **Reply #507 on:** January 14, 2010, 03:06:00 PM »

Quote from: Green Man on January 14, 2010, 03:04:41 PM

I want to send one directly to him. I feel like at this point NBC is going to steal all his mail. He should have an email address, or something.

Flannel Boy · « **Reply #508 on:** January 14, 2010, 03:07:07 PM »

Quote from: BrandNew on January 14, 2010, 03:05:48 PM

conebone69@nbc.com

there's that sophisticated Harvard humor of Conan's.

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #509 on:** January 14, 2010, 03:08:33 PM »

oh wait a minute man wait a minute...

huahuahuhahahuha

oh man...

Himu · « **Reply #510 on:** January 14, 2010, 03:11:47 PM »

Quote from: BrandNew on January 14, 2010, 03:08:33 PM

oh wait a minute man wait a minute...

huahuahuhahahuha

oh man...
(Image removed from quote.)

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #511 on:** January 14, 2010, 03:12:30 PM »

WILLCO

Himu · « **Reply #512 on:** January 14, 2010, 03:15:27 PM »

I'm trying to make it an animated gif, but I'm not used to animating gifs in photoshop. I'm more used to imageready but that's KIA.

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #513 on:** January 14, 2010, 03:16:03 PM »

I think what you have now is just fine

Saint Cornelius · « **Reply #514 on:** January 14, 2010, 03:16:49 PM »

I definitely disagree with the Conan naysayers.

Himu · « **Reply #515 on:** January 14, 2010, 03:19:08 PM »

Quote from: BrandNew on January 14, 2010, 03:16:03 PM

I think what you have now is just fine

I disagree, now I'm going to come over and fuck your sister.

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #516 on:** January 14, 2010, 03:20:36 PM »

it needs to have "eh eh" coming out of a dialogue line or something

Himu · « **Reply #517 on:** January 14, 2010, 03:21:23 PM »

That's easy.

Raban · « **Reply #518 on:** January 14, 2010, 03:22:46 PM »

Quote from: Genghis Cohen on January 14, 2010, 03:22:10 PM

http://artsbeat.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/01/14/dont-cry-for-me-downtown-burbank/?hp
The money shot:
"It seems obvious that what’s really at play here is a generation gap. A younger, more vocal, more online audience simply doesn’t like Mr. Leno’s show, which has gradually come to represent an entire pre-digital, Middle American culture that the Internet commentariat wishes would just get out of the way. Unfortunately for them, their parents are more likely to be watching television at 11:35 p.m. than they are."

Nailed it.

Flannel Boy · « **Reply #519 on:** January 14, 2010, 03:24:31 PM »

Conan's fans support his show by forming facebook groups; Leno's fans support his show by watching it!

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #520 on:** January 14, 2010, 03:24:50 PM »

Well of course that's true. But the people who are Conan's audience are going to settle soon anyway, and fill into that role soon.

I know that seems way too hypothetical, but I feel that's the obvious flow of time.

Oh well. He should do a podcast/radio show

edit: genghis you're brutal :'(

Flannel Boy · « **Reply #521 on:** January 14, 2010, 03:25:40 PM »

Podcast? that's where the money is. Right eel?

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #522 on:** January 14, 2010, 03:26:49 PM »

I'm listening to Adam Carolla right now and he has me in stitches.

Howard Alan Treesong · « **Reply #523 on:** January 14, 2010, 03:29:33 PM »

"Don't worry, Conan. They'll name a turnpike after you...on the Information Superhighway."

\

etiolate · « **Reply #524 on:** January 14, 2010, 03:31:35 PM »

My sister and brother in law had a neilson box and htey watched Conan and Craig, switching here and there, then Conan and Craig when Conan went to the Tonight Show. So, yes, white people watching Conan.

And if there is a difference in how the fanbases watch the shows, thats more a statement on the businesses being behind on advertising. If things are moving to more net based watching, whats the point of sticking to an older TV audience that is dying out? It's ignoring the trend and another example of businesses not wanting to move with the advance of consumer bases.

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #525 on:** January 14, 2010, 03:34:12 PM »

Why can't Nielson update their methods? Do they take into account online views? DVR?

Maybe some don't watch Conan when he airs, but I know a shitload of people who watch him on hulu the next day, or nbc's website.

Flannel Boy · « **Reply #526 on:** January 14, 2010, 03:36:13 PM »

DVR? As if people don't skip the ads.

Quote

Conan O'Brien Rating for Conan O'Brien's "Tonight Show" have surged as the dispute with NBC over the late night schedule continues. The Wall Street Journal reports that viewership is up for the show, including a 42% increase for the coveted 18 to 49 demographic.

http://blogs.buffalonews.com/popstand/2010/01/morning-links--2.html
Leno increasing the Tonight Show's ratings already.

Mandark · « **Reply #527 on:** January 14, 2010, 03:37:29 PM »

Shorter etiolate: "The entertainment industry should revamp its entire business model and distribution channels in a way that, coincidentally, will result in more product aimed at me."

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #528 on:** January 14, 2010, 03:37:44 PM »

Flannel Boy · « **Reply #529 on:** January 14, 2010, 03:39:00 PM »

Himu · « **Reply #530 on:** January 14, 2010, 03:44:21 PM »

Quote from: etiolate on January 14, 2010, 03:31:35 PM

My sister and brother in law had a neilson box and htey watched Conan and Craig, switching here and there, then Conan and Craig when Conan went to the Tonight Show. So, yes, white people watching Conan.

And if there is a difference in how the fanbases watch the shows, thats more a statement on the businesses being behind on advertising. If things are moving to more net based watching, whats the point of sticking to an older TV audience that is dying out? It's ignoring the trend and another example of businesses not wanting to move with the advance of consumer bases.

I don't think Nintendo fans count as people, etiolate! So white people watching Conan has yet to be proven!

The Fake Shemp · « **Reply #531 on:** January 14, 2010, 03:50:08 PM »

Say hello to :lenowned :lenowned

Himu · « **Reply #532 on:** January 14, 2010, 03:50:45 PM »

Testing.

:lenowned

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #533 on:** January 14, 2010, 03:51:09 PM »

:lenowned

Howard Alan Treesong · « **Reply #534 on:** January 14, 2010, 03:51:48 PM »

Quote from: The Fake Shemp on January 14, 2010, 03:50:08 PM

Say hello to :lenowned :lenowned

Should be :conan
For obvious reasons.

Flannel Boy · « **Reply #535 on:** January 14, 2010, 03:53:33 PM »

Where's Conan's emoticon?
Oh wait, here it is:

:lenowned

Himu · « **Reply #536 on:** January 14, 2010, 03:54:15 PM »

etiolate · « **Reply #537 on:** January 14, 2010, 03:54:32 PM »

Quote from: Mandark on January 14, 2010, 03:37:29 PM

Shorter etiolate: "The entertainment industry should update its entire business model and distribution channels in a way that, coincidentally, will result in being ready for changing media."

Fixed because you're pathetic

The Fake Shemp · « **Reply #538 on:** January 14, 2010, 03:56:11 PM »

Quote from: etiolate on January 14, 2010, 03:54:32 PM

Quote from: Mandark on January 14, 2010, 03:37:29 PM
Shorter etiolate: "The entertainment industry should update its entire business model and distribution channels in a way that, coincidentally, will result in being ready for changing media."

Fixed because you're pathetic. Right, Kevin? :lenowned

HA HA THATS RITE JAY

Himu · « **Reply #539 on:** January 14, 2010, 03:56:33 PM »

There's a difference between being ready for changing media and changing your entire business model, dude.

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Author Topic: Conan's career is over, Leno returns to his rightful throne as King of Late Nite (Read 127156 times)