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Your toughts on SNES&NES Final Fantasies?
« on: January 12, 2010, 06:47:29 PM »
i have played them but i was just wondering what's the general opinion here on bore,to be fair i'm no big fan of them even tough i'm like the greatest FF7 toolboy ever and like quite a bit of FF6 ( :yuck world of ruin  :yuck) so i was wondering if i was just a crazy lone man or if somebody shared the sentiment
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Re: Your toughts on SNES&NES Final Fantasies?
« Reply #1 on: January 12, 2010, 06:54:11 PM »
Only good ones are 4 and 5

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Re: Your toughts on SNES&NES Final Fantasies?
« Reply #2 on: January 12, 2010, 07:02:49 PM »
4 and 6 are pretty awesome. Never got very far in 5.
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Re: Your toughts on SNES&NES Final Fantasies?
« Reply #3 on: January 12, 2010, 07:06:15 PM »
1 is average.
2 sucks.
3 is okay. 5 did it better.
4 is top 5 ff.
5 is third best ff.
6 is second best ff.
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Re: Your toughts on SNES&NES Final Fantasies?
« Reply #4 on: January 12, 2010, 07:09:19 PM »
play earthbound instead
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Re: Your toughts on SNES&NES Final Fantasies?
« Reply #5 on: January 12, 2010, 07:11:07 PM »
earthbound sucks.

mother 3 is better.
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Re: Your toughts on SNES&NES Final Fantasies?
« Reply #6 on: January 12, 2010, 07:23:07 PM »
earthbound sucks.

mother 3 is better.

Ok can you explain why? I'm seriously interested why people think this is.

I played both, and Mother 3 pretty much knocked me out of the stratosphere on how awful it was. Like, I raged when I finished, I couldn't believe what I played.
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Re: Your toughts on SNES&NES Final Fantasies?
« Reply #7 on: January 12, 2010, 07:25:33 PM »
I still need to play FFII and FFV. The only main FF games I've never played.

I'm waiting for the FFV DS remake. Don't think I'll ever play FFII. Game looks ungodly ugly.

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Re: Your toughts on SNES&NES Final Fantasies?
« Reply #8 on: January 12, 2010, 07:25:38 PM »
I like Mother 3's gameplay (dungeons, combo system, difficulty) more. I like the humor more. I like the story, characters, writing more. It's just a really charming game. But I find Earthbound eye roll inducing.
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Re: Your toughts on SNES&NES Final Fantasies?
« Reply #9 on: January 12, 2010, 07:28:06 PM »
earthbound sucks.

mother 3 is better.

Ok can you explain why? I'm seriously interested why people think this is.

I played both, and Mother 3 pretty much knocked me out of the stratosphere on how awful it was. Like, I raged when I finished, I couldn't believe what I played.

I liked both a lot when I played them the year Mother 3 came out back to back.  I don't think one is worse than the other.  3 has a more serious story while 2 is silly fun.  The wall of lights in 2 is amazingly powerful.  The battle system in 3 is a little better and deeper.  That's about the only difference I noticed.

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Re: Your toughts on SNES&NES Final Fantasies?
« Reply #10 on: January 12, 2010, 07:30:59 PM »
And for the OP

FF1 GBA- simple but great
FF2 GBA - awesome.  FFXII portable simple edition.  I heard the original sucked but I never played it and the fixed GBA version was excellent.
FF3 DS - I dunno, I've tried 3 times and never made it more than 5-6 hours because it's really boring.  Only FF I haven't beaten ;_;
FF4 SNES - Good, FF4 DS OMFGBBQ SO GOOD.  Great story/cutscenes, great hard gameplay
FFV SNES - ZOMG amazing gameplay, story is lolz (precurser to FFVIII/FFXIII storytelling)
FFVI SNES - ZOMG story, gameplay/dungeons are pretty hot too.  WoR has problems

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Re: Your toughts on SNES&NES Final Fantasies?
« Reply #11 on: January 12, 2010, 07:47:23 PM »
World of Ruin is the best part of 6, you plebes. :bow Nonlinearity :bow2

6>4>5>

The rest haven't aged so well. Never played the GBA version of 2 but the original was stupid hard from what I remember. Played the DS remake of 3 and that sucked asshole.

earthbound sucks.

mother 3 is better.
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Re: Your toughts on SNES&NES Final Fantasies?
« Reply #12 on: January 12, 2010, 07:49:44 PM »
I still need to play FFII and FFV. The only main FF games I've never played.

I'm waiting for the FFV DS remake. Don't think I'll ever play FFII. Game looks ungodly ugly.
lol? The jaggy polygonal DS remakes look worse than the 16 bit originals
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Re: Your toughts on SNES&NES Final Fantasies?
« Reply #14 on: January 12, 2010, 07:55:01 PM »
Hey, did anyone play that FF4 "sequel" that was released exclusively on the Wii store? I tried to run it on Dolphin when it popped up online but couldn't get it to work and never heard much about it after that, so I kinda forgot about it until just now
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Re: Your toughts on SNES&NES Final Fantasies?
« Reply #15 on: January 12, 2010, 07:57:09 PM »
1 is awesome, 2 sucks balls.

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Re: Your toughts on SNES&NES Final Fantasies?
« Reply #16 on: January 12, 2010, 07:57:25 PM »
I'm near the end of it... it gets a bit too difficult around there. Otherwise it's cake and pretty decent. I ditched all the newtards once I got all the OG characters.
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Re: Your toughts on SNES&NES Final Fantasies?
« Reply #17 on: January 12, 2010, 08:12:59 PM »
My thoughts are that Final Fantasy 6 was fuck awesome and I should give it another play-through in the near future...the rest have their quirks but had no lasting effect for me

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Re: Your toughts on SNES&NES Final Fantasies?
« Reply #18 on: January 12, 2010, 08:18:41 PM »
VI is great.  IV and V are very good but have their flaws.  III is poorly aged and not that fun.  II is poorly aged and terrible.  I is not bad for what it is but it is very simple game.
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Re: Your toughts on SNES&NES Final Fantasies?
« Reply #19 on: January 12, 2010, 08:52:16 PM »
It appears that the only people that don't like 6 are the same ones that don't seem to mind 13's hand-holding narrative. HMMMM

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Re: Your toughts on SNES&NES Final Fantasies?
« Reply #20 on: January 12, 2010, 09:04:30 PM »
Who the fuck doesn't like FF6?
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Re: Your toughts on SNES&NES Final Fantasies?
« Reply #21 on: January 12, 2010, 09:06:21 PM »
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Re: Your toughts on SNES&NES Final Fantasies?
« Reply #22 on: January 12, 2010, 10:14:40 PM »
I love em all except FFIII.  One caveat is that FFII really should only be played in its GBA or PSP form.  Makes the game sane and adds a good bit to the story.

Why does everyone seem to hate 3 so much? I thought it was a pretty damn good game for the era - lots of nonlinear and optional/side stuff, a much better take on FF1's class system, all sorts of unique airships to get (the Invincible is badass!), some pretty balanced gameplay (apart from the fight with Garuda), and some of the best graphics and music on the Famicom.

FF5 will always be my favorite though.
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Re: Your toughts on SNES&NES Final Fantasies?
« Reply #23 on: January 12, 2010, 10:19:20 PM »
I love em all except FFIII.  One caveat is that FFII really should only be played in its GBA or PSP form.  Makes the game sane and adds a good bit to the story.

Why does everyone seem to hate 3 so much? I thought it was a pretty damn good game for the era - lots of nonlinear and optional/side stuff, a much better take on FF1's class system, all sorts of unique airships to get (the Invincible is badass!), some pretty balanced gameplay (apart from the fight with Garuda), and some of the best graphics and music on the Famicom.

FF5 will always be my favorite though.

I'm just going by the DS version and it has:

-Very little story
-Load times :\
-Kinda ugly DS 3d
-Job system is better in FFV

I think it's ok but it doesn't have anything to keep me glued to the game.  I actually think I'd probably like the NES version better if I gave it a shot.

Re: Your toughts on SNES&NES Final Fantasies?
« Reply #24 on: January 12, 2010, 10:19:43 PM »
Final Fantasy IV is my favorite game of all time. FFVI is pretty awesome, too.
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Re: Your toughts on SNES&NES Final Fantasies?
« Reply #25 on: January 12, 2010, 11:11:15 PM »
The SNES trilogy is solid, with V having my favorite system.  I could never get into the original and I've never played the remakes of FII and FIII.

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Re: Your toughts on SNES&NES Final Fantasies?
« Reply #26 on: January 12, 2010, 11:25:47 PM »
I've only really played VI. Really liked it.

Tried IV and wasn't into it like five years ago. Will try again later.

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Re: Your toughts on SNES&NES Final Fantasies?
« Reply #27 on: January 13, 2010, 01:24:56 AM »
FF1- Fun as a quickie RPG for me. Love to pick this up every once and a while and do a one life run through or experiment with different class groupings.

FF2- Played this for the first time recently (PSP version). Still haven't finished it but I do enjoy that it's an oddball oldschool Final Fantasy.

FF3- Still haven't finished. Maybe someday.

FF4- Need to play through the SNES version again (still haven't finished the DS one). I remember the SNES feeling like it ended prematurely, but it's been almost 15 years since I've last played it.

FF5- Finished this for the first time a few weeks ago. Really loved it. 30+ classes, several worlds to explore, great music, remained fairly challenging throughout. It felt like an evolution of the NES series more so than any of the other SNES games. I would love to see a modern Final Fantasy follow this game's structure someday.

FF6- Too much love for this game for when I was a kid so any high praise I give this could just be construed as nostalgia talkin. I played it again recently and still thought it was fucking awesome.

I have a real hard time getting into 7-9 nowadays. They just feel so slow, even in handheld form.
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Re: Your toughts on SNES&NES Final Fantasies?
« Reply #28 on: January 13, 2010, 01:43:46 AM »
FF6 is the best RPG, ever. No doubt.
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Re: Your toughts on SNES&NES Final Fantasies?
« Reply #29 on: January 13, 2010, 04:14:43 AM »
someone link me to a fucking SNES ROM site NOW
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Re: Your toughts on SNES&NES Final Fantasies?
« Reply #30 on: January 13, 2010, 05:29:00 AM »
Of course Chrono Trigger is still the RPG king.
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Re: Your toughts on SNES&NES Final Fantasies?
« Reply #31 on: January 13, 2010, 10:48:29 AM »
FF1 -- the first RPG I ever felt compelled to finish (but never could because I was too young to grasp some of the concepts/hard boss fights)

FF6 -- awesome

the rest -- dunno

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Re: Your toughts on SNES&NES Final Fantasies?
« Reply #32 on: January 13, 2010, 03:53:07 PM »
ok so to convince myself of the quality of final fantasy 5,i started replaying it and just got after the water crystal smash and i still don't understand why people like the job system that much,sure it's a cool idea but ultimately you are just going to end up mastering ranger and red mage and then everyone spams dual cast/rapid fire alternatively if you are familiar with the game or just faq savy you just end up abusing the good blue spells

a lot of jobs are pointless and have no reason to get used so what's the deal?

 
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Re: Your toughts on SNES&NES Final Fantasies?
« Reply #33 on: January 13, 2010, 03:56:13 PM »
ok so to convince myself of the quality of final fantasy 5,i started replaying it and just got after the water crystal smash and i still don't understand why people like the job system that much,sure it's a cool idea but ultimately you are just going to end up mastering ranger and red mage and then everyone spams dual cast/rapid fire alternatively if you are familiar with the game or just faq savy you just end up abusing the good blue spells

a lot of jobs are pointless and have no reason to get used so what's the deal?

 

Exactly, FF6 sucks.
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Re: Your toughts on SNES&NES Final Fantasies?
« Reply #34 on: January 13, 2010, 04:07:58 PM »
FF6 is awesome. As for playing it on SNES I'm doing so currently (emu), but the PS remake was better.
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Re: Your toughts on SNES&NES Final Fantasies?
« Reply #35 on: January 13, 2010, 04:13:55 PM »
Even though the first FF game I have played and finished was 7 I don't hold it as the best in the series. Won't make a list but suffice to say FF12 is on the top :-*

Likewise and agreed. FF12, 4 lyfe.
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Re: Your toughts on SNES&NES Final Fantasies?
« Reply #36 on: January 13, 2010, 04:16:28 PM »
ok so to convince myself of the quality of final fantasy 5,i started replaying it and just got after the water crystal smash and i still don't understand why people like the job system that much,sure it's a cool idea but ultimately you are just going to end up mastering ranger and red mage and then everyone spams dual cast/rapid fire alternatively if you are familiar with the game or just faq savy you just end up abusing the good blue spells

a lot of jobs are pointless and have no reason to get used so what's the deal?

 
friend of mine suggested i play ff5 and you just saved me the trouble.

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Re: Your toughts on SNES&NES Final Fantasies?
« Reply #37 on: January 13, 2010, 06:29:58 PM »
ok so to convince myself of the quality of final fantasy 5,i started replaying it and just got after the water crystal smash and i still don't understand why people like the job system that much,sure it's a cool idea but ultimately you are just going to end up mastering ranger and red mage and then everyone spams dual cast/rapid fire alternatively if you are familiar with the game or just faq savy you just end up abusing the good blue spells

a lot of jobs are pointless and have no reason to get used so what's the deal?

 

Because I DON'T do that?
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Re: Your toughts on SNES&NES Final Fantasies?
« Reply #38 on: January 13, 2010, 06:33:21 PM »
that's the best way to exploit the game and exploiting stuff is what all rpg are about... that's why we have elemental weakness and stuff like that

how do you play anyway? do you make everyone a bard and use hide with all of your characters? :teehee
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Re: Your toughts on SNES&NES Final Fantasies?
« Reply #39 on: January 13, 2010, 06:48:56 PM »
No. I use a knight, bm, monk, and thief at first. Then, when they get better stuff, I upgrade their jobs to compliment their base class. So for example, Bartz is a knight, so he gets upgrade to stuff like Samurai. Ferris gets stuff like ninja, archer. Galuf gets berserker, trainer. Lenna gets red mage, summoner, shit like that.

Exploits are boring unless they make the game harder.

Just like with any rpg, I give each character a defined role, usually given off by the story or their character background, and I keep that role throughout the whole game. So in my game, Bartz isn't going to learn magic. He's no mage, he's a fighter. Faris ain't no mage or a warrior she's a pirate, a thief. Galuf is this amnesiac old man who's got a mean fist, so I give him any and every class which is nature or bare fist-based since he's got balls and he rocks. Since what's her face is his granddaughter, I give her a similar style, mostly because I'm lazy and don't want to break up my style. Lenna's a princess, and she's quite fragile. So I give her all magic skills. She's my only mage in the game.

I do this with every single rpg I play. Even in games like FF7 and FF12 which have customization systems that call for the characters to be similar.

THe job system in FF5 is so fun because it gives you so many options. Mastering a job and giving those skills to the character while he's using another job, complimenting  his current class is fun as fuck. Every time.
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Re: Your toughts on SNES&NES Final Fantasies?
« Reply #40 on: January 13, 2010, 06:51:50 PM »
People who make parties with nothing but one class are pussies.
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Re: Your toughts on SNES&NES Final Fantasies?
« Reply #41 on: January 13, 2010, 06:54:46 PM »
my 6 mewtwos will destroy you any day

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Re: Your toughts on SNES&NES Final Fantasies?
« Reply #42 on: January 13, 2010, 06:57:58 PM »
How did you get 6 mewtwo's in your party? The missing no. glitch?
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Re: Your toughts on SNES&NES Final Fantasies?
« Reply #43 on: January 13, 2010, 07:02:31 PM »
action replay because i was rich kid

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Re: Your toughts on SNES&NES Final Fantasies?
« Reply #44 on: January 13, 2010, 07:03:48 PM »
Haha.
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Re: Your toughts on SNES&NES Final Fantasies?
« Reply #45 on: January 13, 2010, 07:05:29 PM »
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giving those skills to the character while he's using another job, complimenting  his current class
isn't that sugar coating giving rapid-fire to a double wielding character?
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Re: Your toughts on SNES&NES Final Fantasies?
« Reply #46 on: January 13, 2010, 07:12:27 PM »
Sure. But you said everyone.

In my game, only one character would be using rapid fire.

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Re: Your toughts on SNES&NES Final Fantasies?
« Reply #47 on: January 13, 2010, 07:13:53 PM »
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Re: Your toughts on SNES&NES Final Fantasies?
« Reply #48 on: January 13, 2010, 07:14:48 PM »
Looking back at those games, FF 1-6 feel almost exactly the same. Nothing distinguishes one from another.
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Re: Your toughts on SNES&NES Final Fantasies?
« Reply #49 on: January 13, 2010, 07:15:48 PM »
Yeah that was a stupid comment.
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Re: Your toughts on SNES&NES Final Fantasies?
« Reply #50 on: January 13, 2010, 07:21:30 PM »
Sure. But you said everyone.

In my game, only one character would be using rapid fire.


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that doesn't solve the basic problem that the job system is boring because most of the ability are pointless and the keys to deal a shit-ton of damage resides in a few skill... people complain about ff3 because in the end it's all about ninja and sages so why nobody finds a problem here?
heck do you even get enough good weapon to pull of an entire party of rapid fire people?

Optimo - funny i always tought the same thing
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Re: Your toughts on SNES&NES Final Fantasies?
« Reply #51 on: January 13, 2010, 07:21:47 PM »
I guess Borys didnt know about Auto-Battle back then...
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Re: Your toughts on SNES&NES Final Fantasies?
« Reply #52 on: January 13, 2010, 07:22:29 PM »
Most of the abilities are pointless? Not that I find.
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Re: Your toughts on SNES&NES Final Fantasies?
« Reply #53 on: January 13, 2010, 07:40:40 PM »
that's the best way to exploit the game and exploiting stuff is what all rpg are about... that's why we have elemental weakness and stuff like that

how do you play anyway? do you make everyone a bard and use hide with all of your characters? :teehee

There's a point where you lose the fun of the game though.  Finding a balance between exploiting and having fun is the main goal.

I don't remember my parties in FFV much.  I used most of the jobs and I remember beating the final boss by throwing lots of shit for 9999 damage and miming it :D

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Re: Your toughts on SNES&NES Final Fantasies?
« Reply #54 on: January 13, 2010, 07:43:53 PM »
Seriously. If you're exploiting the game and not having any fun, who's problem is that?
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Re: Your toughts on SNES&NES Final Fantasies?
« Reply #55 on: January 14, 2010, 12:05:02 AM »
I'd love to replay FFV again with only using 4 jobs.  I missed out on the GAF thread from last year.

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Re: Your toughts on SNES&NES Final Fantasies?
« Reply #56 on: January 14, 2010, 01:17:11 AM »
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Oh man, I am so gonna piss a few folks off with this image.  :lol No wonder I wasn't as taken with VII as all the newb kids, I played the same fuckin game on the SNES a few years prior!
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Re: Your toughts on SNES&NES Final Fantasies?
« Reply #57 on: January 14, 2010, 01:41:08 AM »
While there are similarities between VI and VII's story they're mostly nothing alike.

In VII you're basically a terrorist.

In VI you're a resistance fighter. Your actions in VI cannot be questioned; your actions in VII are completely questionable. And that's just one of the few basic things.
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Re: Your toughts on SNES&NES Final Fantasies?
« Reply #58 on: January 14, 2010, 01:49:00 AM »
Why must you ruin my fun?  :'(
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Re: Your toughts on SNES&NES Final Fantasies?
« Reply #59 on: January 14, 2010, 02:01:43 AM »
While there are similarities between VI and VII's story they're mostly nothing alike.

In VII you're basically a terrorist.

In VI you're a resistance fighter. Your actions in VI cannot be questioned; your actions in VII are completely questionable. And that's just one of the few basic things.

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Barret
         "You're right..."
         "It sounds cool sayin' it's to save the planet."
         "But I was the one who blew up that Mako reactor......"
         "Lookin' back on it now, I can see that wasn't the right way to
do things."
         "I made a lot of friends and innocent bystanders suffer..."

No such thing as a remorseful terrorist :wag

Besides, nothing in that image is false. FF7 is basically the Avatar to FF6's Dances With Wolves

:piss FF7 :piss2
:bow FF6 :bow2
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