Aliens VS Predator

[The Fake Shemp]

Why would a magazine that is manufactured to help sell product give a game a low score? Game Informer numbers are almost always inflated in an effort to boost GameStop sales. This is just proof that the game is complete garbage.

[duckman2000]

Besides, all of GI's complaints sound reasonable if the game is poorly designed, which it certainly seems to be. What's the point of wicked stealth stuff if the levels are super-linear and the enemies (marines) braindead? And the motion tracker, how shitty must an aliens game be to make the motion tracker anything short of bloody awesome? GI has a dodgy reputation, but Rebellion's reputation is worse.

[The Fake Shemp]

I don't think Game Informer has ever had the reputation of scoring games too low.

[Great Rumbler]

I don't think Game Informer has ever had the reputation of scoring games too low.

The only time they'll rate games low is if they think bro-gamers won't buy it.

[duckman2000]

There was the Paper Mario review, but the truth behind that has been pretty distorted (much like the "they didn't like the stealth wtf," which makes a lot more sense in context). Their reasoning for Paper Mario actually made a bit of sense, in a buyer's guide sort of way.

In any event, no, they are not exactly known for underrating games. Rebellion, on the other hand, is very well known for making low-rating games.

[maxy]

IGN UK-8.5

http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/106/1068446p1.html

Not bad at all...cant wait

[duckman2000]

Shitty framerate is now an old school flavor? 

[Tauntaun]

 :'(  AvP2 was so awesome though. 

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I'll still buy it though cause I'm a fanboy.  :'( :'(

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[duckman2000]

As I recall, it was also much more awesome than AvP.

Monolith is awesome

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Sometimes

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[duckman2000]

I guess NeoGAF got its official thread up, and the dude left out the GI review. lulz. I'd call the dude a plant, but GAFers do this for free all the time.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=387508

[FatalT]

Duckman cares way too much about hating on this game.

24 of the thread's posts are from him.

[duckman2000]

And this isn't even the Gearbox version!

[duckman2000]

After much debate, no less.

[duckman2000]

Are you trying to get yourself outed or something?

[demi]

This game has been on the net for a while now. Where are the impressions, Maxy?

[maxy]

This game has been on the net for a while now. Where are the impressions, Maxy?

When i finish Marine playthrough. 

[maxy]

Finished with predator and marine,started alien.
Verdict...good game,they really nailed the atmosphere,kills are very satisfying,predator,marine,alien,it doesn't matter,sound is excellent.And despite that the engine is a bit outdated,it looks decent,sometimes great,lightning and shadowing saves it.
Marine campaign is probably the best one in terms of story and can be damn scary sometimes,things tend to jump on you and then disappear in the dark.
Predator feels like a badass,once you master the controls you will kick some serious ass,jump attack some alien horde,kill a few and jump to some elevated position...so good...but beware,don't let your guard down,if you want to survive have to kill without hesitation
Alien,played it a little bit,feels like an alien.
Game is polished,performs good,no tearing,no "bugs" so far...

Now to less than good aka crappy stuff
Individual campaigns are short,at least they feel like that
End boss fights are easy and badly designed   
Marine gameplay feels dated,in huge locations(quite a few) he is just too slow,but nothing beats pulse rifle ripping through alien skin.
Bad cutscenes
Story is forgettable,predictable
Game features some great locations,shame that they haven't been exploited more


So,its not a disaster its not excellent,somewhere in between,game budget was obviously low,there is a hint for a sequel at the end.Hopefully it sell well and the sequel gets significantly larger budget,there is someone at Rebellion that really understands what Aliens and Predators are. 

 

[drew]

That GI review is really crap ...complaining about Predator heavy stealth focus

Another review has surfaced...OXM UK gave it 8/10

Anyway i cant wait to to start butchering marines and aliens 
Predator

bitch confirmed

opinion null and void

[maxy]

Also,play on hard,much better

[demi]

After the string of crap I've played in the past month, I'm going to just NOT play this at all and dodge a bullet. Will wait for some RPG to come out instead.

[maxy]

After the string of crap I've played in the past month, I'm going to just NOT play this at all and dodge a bullet. Will wait for some RPG to come out instead.

[youtube=560,345][/youtube]
 

He is playing on normal,btw

[Great Rumbler]

http://www.gamespot.com/ps3/action/aliensvspredatorworkingtitle/review.html

When three mediocre games are jammed into a single package, the result is still mediocre.

But in each campaign, the thrill wears off quickly when you discover that Aliens vs. Predator botches a lot of the basics, and what seems thrilling at first becomes downright tedious as you struggle with poorly designed levels and gawky gameplay.

You'll crawl onto some walls and outcroppings willy-nilly whether or not it's what you intended to do. You'll try to activate one of the game's super-picky button prompts and jump onto a wall instead, or wrestle with the controls and camera trying to do something as simple as slither into a vent. You'll eventually learn to wield some control over the alien's fickle movement, but even then, moving around isn't all that enjoyable. You never feel in control of an actual creature; instead, it's as if you are floating just above the ground.

Executing a well-planned attack can be fulfilling, though the game doesn't create many such moments, leaving you to make them of your own accord.

Unfortunately, irritating mechanical and level design limits yank all the fun out of scurrying around (in the case of the alien) and leaping from one destination to the next (in the case of the predator). Some levels require you to move about only in ways the developer intended. You might want to scamper up and over an obstacle, only to run into an invisible wall or ceiling; and as the predator, you can leap to certain surfaces but not to others for reasons that don't always make sense. Why can you leap 20 feet to one spot, while you can't hop over a six-inch barbed-wire fence?

Enemy humanoids will do incredibly stupid things like take cover on the wrong side of a wall, exposing their backs to you. Sometimes, their ability to notice you even when you're camouflaged borders on the magical; other times, they're all but oblivious to your presence from two inches away. Civilians even run into the corner and cower with their backs to you in the alien campaign, clearly waiting to be harvested rather than making an authentic attempt to escape.

The marine campaign avoids some of these pratfalls, instead falling victim only to its own lack of ambition. After the first excellent levels, the lights get turned on and rarely go off, and everything becomes tepid and ordinary. It turns out to be just another everyday shooter checking off the old cliches; like in so many other shooters, you're a rookie learning the ropes, guided by the voice of an unseen comrade, a device the game loves so much, it uses it twice.

The attention to detail, the well-considered level design, and the sense of momentum that characterize the finest shooters are missing here.

5.5

[dark1x]

It's a shame that it ended up rather mediocre, but really, it's Rebellion here.  They haven't produced a worthwhile game in ages and I didn't expect that would suddenly change with this new title.  At least it seems to be better than Rogue Warrior, which was just pathetic.

To be fair, it's probably the best AvP game they've made yet as the others have aged rather poorly.  Of course, those games were better than this during their respective release time frame...

[duckman2000]

Some Swedish PC gaming site gave it a 2/5

+ Three campaigns
+ Promising multiplayer (they couldn't test it, since no one was online)   

- Repetitive
- Short campaign
- Outdated (or old fashioned)

[maxy]

Gamespot is for losers anyway.But the game is not going to get stellar scores,expect 5-8,9 range,i am curious what the pc magazines will think of it.
Btw,i am replaying Predator campaign for the third time,there is just something magical in fighting(butchering) hordes of aliens,marines.

[Herr Mafflard]

played a 3-person deathmatch in the multiplayer demo. Can't say much about the level design, but the match was tense - had me looking around corners for the predator, and the way the sound echoes when there is a nearby firefight is nice touch that scares and psychs you up at the same time.

Eerie atmosphere is pretty much all this game has going for it.

[maxy]

Here are some scores,not that i care about scores,but it will be a very polarizing game

•Empire Magazine 4/5
•Game Informer 5.75/10
•Gamers.AT 81%
•Seraphic Gaming 8.6/10
•OXM UK 8/10
•IGN UK 8.5/10
•Techdigest.TV 4/5
•PC Zone 82%
•Bit-Tech 7/10
•Polymania 3+/5
•GameReactor 6/10
•Everyeye.it 7.5/10
•Gamez.nl 86/100
•Jeuxactu.com 7/10 (SP)
•Games.Tiscali 7/10
•Gram.pl 4/6
•GamingXP.com 84%
•Gamespot 5.5/10
•Fz.se 2/5
•Eurogamer.it 7/10
•PC Powerplay 7/10
•PS3bloggen.se 60/100
•OXM AUS 9/10
•Burn360.net 3/5
•Multiplayer.it 7.2/10
•Meristation 7.5/10
•Original Gamer 6.5/10
•PSM3 91%
•OXPM 90%
•OPM 90%
•GI (Aus) 8.7/10

There is just something that makes me play it more and more,despite all its problems and outdated mission design.Its just that every time i rip marine head off or break alien on my knee,there is a big smile on my face

[Third]

You just seem to have shitty taste.

[The Fake Shemp]

Yeah, what Third said. Those scores are pretty mediocre. Looks like bargain bin material.

[maxy]

You just seem to have shitty taste.

At least i don't play Wii games,like you.

[duckman2000]

I guess the latest excuse is "so what if SP is buggy and sucky, it's all about MP anyway," in regards to an Aliens game. I mean what the fuck is going on.

Anyway, I've come to the realization that MMaRsu and slasher_thrasher on GAF are better reference points than any review. If either of those two are burning brightly for a game with poor or "mixed" reviews, then it pretty much deserves the lower scores.

[maxy]

I guess the latest excuse is "so what if SP is buggy and sucky, it's all about MP anyway," in regards to an Aliens game. I mean what the fuck is going on.

Anyway, I've come to the realization that MMaRsu and slasher_thrasher on GAF are better reference points than any review. If either of those two are burning brightly for a game with poor or "mixed" reviews, then it pretty much deserves the lower scores.

To be fair most of the time SP feels like playing MP with dumb marines and vicious alien horde,from predator perspective.

[FatalT]

I bought it for 360. Multiplayer is so fucking fun.

[duckman2000]

I hammered AvsP2 multiplayer and loved it, i assume we have similar modes in this one ?

I know this is probably going to be poop on a disk, but as a sucker for Aliens i'll probably give it a whirl.

See, this is precisely why I'm staying away. I really don't think I have it in me to experience a Rebellion AvP game first hand. I also strongly recall feeling that AvP2 was a massive improvement on a buggy and slightly shitty first stab at it by Rebellion.

Anyway, so the survival mode only has two fucking maps?

[duckman2000]

Two maps, and more through DLC!

Is that correct, maxy?

[maxy]

Yes,only two maps.

[ManaByte]

TWO MAPS?

[maxy]

Yes for single player survival mode,dont know about online.

[dark1x]

Need to play Deadliest Catch first though to lessen my expectations some more. Went into Biocock after Mass Effect and was "uh, yeah, right, whatever! mehfest"

Damn, man, you are jaded as hell.   

Unfortunately, I'm slowly getting there as well.  :\

[Cravis]

A game that's "polarizing" is almost always a bad game. The group of reviewers that grade it less harshly usually ignore the obvious and glaring flaws of the title due to their blinding love for the source material, characters, or plot.

It's really not that hard to like a bad game but that shouldn't excuse poor gameplay because you happen to really like a certain spiky haired dough-eyed character, for example.

I'm loving this game for the exact above reason, I love the source material. Despite it's flaws it nails the atmosphere and feeling of the films.

[duckman2000]

There's this dude on GAF that keeps posting these god awful shots of the PC version at max, and he seems to in all seriousness believe that they look amazing.

[dark1x]

Ha ha, I suppose I can see where you're coming from.  I enjoy most games as well, even those with shitty framerates and other problems (though my enjoyment DOES decrease when that is the case).  I just enjoy bitching on message boards.    Positive comments rarely receive replies and threads end up going nowhere.

[pilonv1]

Impossible Mission on the C64 (well, the DS, but i'm playing it in full retro mode)

The amount of hours I put into this game as a child would be sickening to most people. It's such an awesome game.

[pilonv1]

fuck no. I'd always get about 75% of rooms on the map, and a few pieces of the puzzle but never got that far. No matter how frustrating it got I always loved it.

[duckman2000]

Oh damn

http://www.1up.com/do/reviewPage?cId=3177998&p=4

1up is ripping the early 2010 games apart 

[FatalT]

Why the fuck can I block goddamn predator BLADES with my bare hands? Who thought this was a good idea?

The people balancing the game.

[Cravis]

Why the fuck can I block goddamn predator BLADES with my bare hands? Who thought this was a good idea?

Yeah it balances the game. It would be a little unfair for a single species' melee to be unblockable. That's like saying "Why the fuck can I block Zelda's sword in Smash Brothers!!??"

I bet you'd be bitching about why you can't block the Predator blades if they were unblockable.

[maxy]

On hard blocking wont help you much,but you will be blocked a lot.

Edit:Review score wars

CVG-8/10

http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=235279

Damn,its from OXM... ...fail

[duckman2000]

"The game offers a variety of different multiplayer modes, too, but on the 360 version, it was often hard to find players. You may have to wait around for five or 10 minutes before collecting enough players to get a game started."

what

[FatalT]

"The game offers a variety of different multiplayer modes, too, but on the 360 version, it was often hard to find players. You may have to wait around for five or 10 minutes before collecting enough players to get a game started."

what

The longest I've waited for a match is a minute.

[ManaByte]

Oh damn

http://www.1up.com/do/reviewPage?cId=3177998&p=4

1up is ripping the early 2010 games apart 

It's Tom Chick. He'd give a Megan Fox Blowjob simulator a bad review just to be an idiot.

[Howard Alan Treesong]

Oh damn

http://www.1up.com/do/reviewPage?cId=3177998&p=4

1up is ripping the early 2010 games apart 

It's Tom Chick. He'd give a Megan Fox Blowjob simulator a bad review just to be an idiot.

Tom Chick is a gentleman and a scholar, Megan Fox is a syphilitic whore, and you? You're Manabyte.

[duckman2000]

Gerstmann rated it low as well, and he's an icon of honesty and integrity in gaming journalism. At least that's what people claim when ripping on Gamespot reviews these days.

[maxy]

Bah,Gerstmann is just fat,but that is

[maxy]

UK sales,fastest selling 2010 game,Xbox 360 accounted for 58 per cent of sales, with 32 per cent falling to PS3 and nine per cent on PC,without steam

    1              ALIENS VS PREDATOR     XB360     SEGA     SEGA
    2              JUST DANCE    WII    UBISOFT    UBISOFT
    3              ALIENS VS PREDATOR    PS3    SEGA    SEGA
    4              NEW SUPER MARIO BROS. WII    WII    NINTENDO    NINTENDO
    5              BIOSHOCK 2    XB360    2K GAMES    TAKE 2
    6              WII SPORTS RESORT    WII    NINTENDO    NINTENDO
    7              WII FIT PLUS    WII    NINTENDO    NINTENDO
    8              ALIENS VS PREDATOR    PC    SEGA    SEGA

 
  Predator

[brawndolicious]

Gerstmann rated it low as well, and he's an icon of honesty and integrity in gaming journalism. At least that's what people claim when ripping on Gamespot reviews these days.

The dude's Kane & Lynch video review (the one that got him fired) didn't even show anything past the 10 minute tutorial level actually.

[dark1x]

I played some AvP on the PC yesterday and actually thought it was decent.  It has some issues for sure, but isn't completely awful.  It basically feels a lot like Doom 3 meets FEAR 2 with Aliens, though, at least during the early marine levels.  It pretty much holds 60 fps on my PC, so it feels good.  Love the motion blur when turning in addition to all the first person body movement stuff (kind of like FEAR 2 or Killzone 2).  It does not simply feel like a rehash of the 1999 game, as I was expecting. 

I can see it falling flat, however, as I was growing weary of the game after an hour and quit.  It looks really good on my Kuro plasma, though.  I kind of wonder if the visual design was wrong for a modern game, though, as it looks like dogshit on my LCD in the other room (2009 Samsung).  Shadows permeate each and every scene and the majority of displays people are using will produce poor results with this game, I'd imagine.

Haven't run into any bugs yet, which is a surprise.  It's definitely light years beyond Rogue Warrior.

Gerstmann rated it low as well, and he's an icon of honesty and integrity in gaming journalism. At least that's what people claim when ripping on Gamespot reviews these days.

The dude's Kane & Lynch video review (the one that got him fired) didn't even show anything past the 10 minute tutorial level actually.

I doubt he assembled the footage.  His achievements (for the account he used for review) prove that he played through it, however.  I'm surprised anyone would think that he played no further than the first ten minutes, though.

[brawndolicious]

I doubt he assembled the footage.  His achievements (for the account he used for review) prove that he played through it, however.  I'm surprised anyone would think that he played no further than the first ten minutes, though.

It is possible that he finished the game but it was still a very poor review imo.

[pilonv1]

I had a copy show up yesterday and within seconds offloaded it to a co-worker. Would prefer just to laugh at the EBers playing it.

[dark1x]

I doubt he assembled the footage.  His achievements (for the account he used for review) prove that he played through it, however.  I'm surprised anyone would think that he played no further than the first ten minutes, though.

It is possible that he finished the game but it was still a very poor review imo.

Not inaccurate, however.  Mirrors how I felt at least.  :\