bout to join the -sigh- pc master race

[Jansen]

pretty sure i'm gonna pull the trigger on this setup.

[Howard Alan Treesong]

WELCOME


TO THE REAL WORLD

[Raban]

If that isn't from Newegg, you have failed as a human being.

Great CPU, but I come from a land where you don't mix Intel/ATI. I'd have gone with an Nvidia GPU, but that's me. A lot of EBers I think are ATI die-hards, so I'm probably the only one of this opinion.

EDIT: Also if you're going to be running a 32-bit operating system, don't buy that much RAM.

[Howard Alan Treesong]

The 5770 is a great card; I've been nothing but pleased with mine. I know ATI's been shaky for a few years, but Nvidia's really dropped the ball at the DX10/DX11 transition and ATI is picking up the pieces with category-killers at every price range.

If you live in the U.S., buy from Newegg.

[Raban]

The 5770 is a great card; I've been nothing but pleased with mine. I know ATI's been shaky for a few years, but Nvidia's really dropped the ball at the DX10/DX11 transition and ATI is picking up the pieces with category-killers at every price range.

If you live in the U.S., buy from Newegg.

I know ATI is rock, but I don't combine Intel/ATI because of the AMD/ATI buyout thing. Doesn't seem right. But I may have to break my rule once the next line of cards comes around. Nvidia's Performance/Power Usage ratio sucks balls.

[Jansen]

but newegg wont put it together for me, will they? i dont have the know how to do it myself nor do i want to attempt it.

[Raban]

but newegg wont put it together for me, will they? i dont have the know how to do it myself nor do i want to attempt it.

It's so easy, man. Really. Just touch the inside of your case a few times before you touch any of the silicon, and it's pretty goddamn self-explanatory. Hell I'll walk you through it over IM or some shit

[demi]

Hahahahahahahahahahaha, enjoy your giant doorstop

[Jansen]

what kind of tools would i need?

[Raban]

what kind of tools would i need?

A phillips screwdriver.

[Howard Alan Treesong]

what kind of tools would i need?

a screwdriver! the plus-y one.

[Raban]

what kind of tools would i need?

a screwdriver! the plus-y one.

What the shit is a plus-y screwdriver?

EDIT: Oh, you mean one that looks like a plus. Wow.

[Howard Alan Treesong]

what kind of tools would i need?

a screwdriver! the plus-y one.

What the shit is a plus-y screwdriver?

EDIT: Oh, you mean one that looks like a plus. Wow.

I am translating your "Phillips" electronics jargon into real talk

[demi]

lefty loosey

rightey tightey

[Raban]

what kind of tools would i need?

a screwdriver! the plus-y one.

What the shit is a plus-y screwdriver?

EDIT: Oh, you mean one that looks like a plus. Wow.

I am translating your "Phillips" electronics jargon into real talk

 

[Jansen]

the diff is pretty big since the cheapest shipping option from ncix is like $70



did i miss anything that i need?

[CHOW CHOW]

did i miss anything that i need?

unless RAM prices have soared over the past few months, that is way too expensive for 4gb of RAM.  you can 4gb for like 30-40 bucks anywhere
http://forums.anandtech.com/forumdisplay.php?f=16 try this and this http://www.fatwallet.com/forums/hot-deals?

it doesn't have to all be from newegg...just get wherever is best price

[Himu]

Good, now sell your 360.

[Jansen]

i'm not a dirty poor so i have no reason to sell any of my consoles. 

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but if i had to the ps3 would go first! 

[close]

[Himu]

Who says you need to be poor to sell a console?

Give it away.

[cool breeze]

I would suggest is maybe a bigger hard drive.  Actually, in the second config you posted, the hard drive I just moved to is that Seagate one but at 1 terabyte.  It's not really important and if that 500 gig will last you, maybe wait a few years until SSDs get larger and cheaper.  My problem was that my 500 gig hard drive was filled fast because of that Steam sale.

[CHOW CHOW]

500gb should be plenty...i've made due with 14 gigs for the past nine and a half years

[archie4208]

I only have 9 games installed on Steam right now and it is taking up over 50 gigs.

[Raban]

Who says you need to be poor to sell a console?

Give it away.

To ME.

the diff is pretty big since the cheapest shipping option from ncix is like $70

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did i miss anything that i need?

Ditch the Sony disc drive for a Lite-On, I'd also ditch the Antec case to save yourself like $50 unless you really want one. And don't buy Corsair RAM, it's overpriced crap.

Are you sure you want a Core i, Jansen? They're really expensive now, and I wouldn't call early PC hardware adopters intelligent. Your rig is pretty cheap as it is, but I have a feeling your CPU is gonna get bottlenecked.

[fistfulofmetal]

Why not just bite the bullet and go for a 5870?

[archie4208]

Core i5 is probably the best price/performance CPU on the market now. 

[cool breeze]

500gb should be plenty...i've made due with 14 gigs for the past nine and a half years

I only have 9 games installed on Steam right now and it is taking up over 50 gigs.

yeah, it differs from person to person.  I'm reaching 100 gigs in my steam folder alone; that doesn't include the many retail games I own.  It doesn't help that a lot of games these days are 10+ gigs.  Modern Warfare 2 is about 11, Fear 2 is about 15, Mass Effect 1 is 10+ not including DLC.  You could always uninstall and reinstall later, but the install process is really annoying on PC.  I think Halo 2 on PC had the option to play off the DVD, which was neat but I never tried it out because why the hell would I buy Halo 2 again.

[Bebpo]

Yeah I don't really understand why PC installation requirements are out of control.

Actually I do and it's because hard drives have gotten so big the devs figure "optimization, lol; just install 20 gigs!  They have the space!".  But it's still distinguished mentally-challenged.  Especially when it's a game that fits on a 6gig X360 disc.

[CHOW CHOW]

i'm thinking of just ordering a new PC today...it might finally be time to let the celeron go

[CHOW CHOW]

any great pc exclusives over the past couple years? the majority of the best pc games are just multi-platform console ports

[Great Rumbler]

any great pc exclusives over the past couple years? the majority of the best pc games are just multi-platform console ports

King's Bounty - Armored Princess
The Witches [might be a console port sometime in the distant future, but probably not]
Stalker: Shadow of Chernobyl
Torchlight
Drakensang
Sins of a Solar Empire
Mount and Blade
Crysis
Penumbra series

[Bebpo]

any great pc exclusives over the past couple years? the majority of the best pc games are just multi-platform console ports

90% of the Indie games.
Go here: http://indiegames.com/blog/  
download free games that are actually good
Some cost money and are good too!  You can get most of these ones on Steam under Indie branch.

Most RTS/Strategy games are still PC exclusive.  Most Euro developed games are still PC exclusive.
  
Also PC has superior version of most console games this gen.  Mass Effect, L4D, Dragon Age, etc...

[Howard Alan Treesong]

any great pc exclusives over the past couple years? the majority of the best pc games are just multi-platform console ports

90% of the Indie games.
Go here: http://indiegames.com/blog/  
download free games that are actually good
Some cost money and are good too!  You can get most of these ones on Steam under Indie branch.

Most RTS/Strategy games are still PC exclusive.  Most Euro developed games are still PC exclusive.
  
Also PC has superior version of most console games this gen.  Mass Effect, L4D, Dragon Age, etc...

Truth; Bioware games are SO much better on PC, no matter how many more copies the console versions might sell.

[Fragamemnon]

any great pc exclusives over the past couple years? the majority of the best pc games are just multi-platform console ports

if multiplatform AAA games are all you want to play just stick with consoles. The PC comparative advantage is that you get good versions of those + real strategy and simulation games + indie stuff.

[pilonv1]

And better pricing and convenience. Plus no more paying for filthy console DLC.

PC has the greatest version of TF2 as well.

[Great Rumbler]

PC has the greatest version of TF2 as well.

-More players per game
-Load of free stuff

[BlueTsunami]

PC has the playable version of Risen PC Gaming already wins

[Jansen]

it is done.

[Brehvolution]

That is a pretty low watt power supply for that rig. The 5770 requires 500 watts as a minimum and although it doesn't draw near that, throw in fans, processor, and hard disk and it adds up quick.

[archie4208]

It should be fine unless he wants to OC.

[Jansen]

man i had a ton of people go over that list of shit and they said it was fine. if they're wrong imma hunt them down!

[Fragamemnon]

I have a 500W PSU in one of my computers and it has much more power hungry parts than that. He'll be fine.

[archie4208]

man i had a ton of people go over that list of shit and they said it was fine. if they're wrong imma hunt them down!

That is a pretty solid build.  You should be able to play nearly every game at 1680x1050 and 60 fps, barring Crysis.

[Jansen]

cool. i really didn't expect to spend so much but i'm glad i went this route rather than purchasing a prebuilt system from a store.

[pilonv1]

It should be fine unless he wants to OC.

indeed. i've got a 550w Antec TruPower PSU in my machine with the same stuff and it's more than enough.

[CHOW CHOW]

how does this look

[archie4208]

Spend the extra $75 and get a core i5.  The PC gurus should be able to dole out other bits of advice.

[CHOW CHOW]

i also want to buy a 24 inch monitor for like $250-300

[CHOW CHOW]

Spend the extra $75 and get a core i5. 

is it rly that much faster

[archie4208]

Yeah.

[CHOW CHOW]

lynnefield or clarkdale i5?

why is lynnefield $199 and have 8mb of cache yet the clarkdales are the same price but have 4mb

the only difference i see is that lynnfield is 45nm and clarkdale is 32nm

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=2010340343%201050749234&name=Core%20i5
look there

[CHOW CHOW]

whoa microcenter has i5 for only $120 http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0325942

newegg :sick

[Jansen]

REAL TALK

how hard is it going to be for me to put my rig together when the most experience i have had with pc hardware is swapping out an hdd and adding more memory.

all my parts should be here by friday and i'm already feelin nervous about this.

[cool breeze]

REAL TALK

how hard is it going to be for me to put my rig together when the most experience i have had with pc hardware is swapping out an hdd and adding more memory.

all my parts should be here by friday and i'm already feelin nervous about this.

Everything is is pretty straight forward.  Only annoyances, for me at least, are wiring and the cpu

[Brehvolution]

REAL TALK

how hard is it going to be for me to put my rig together when the most experience i have had with pc hardware is swapping out an hdd and adding more memory.

all my parts should be here by friday and i'm already feelin nervous about this.

It's very simple. If it doesn't fit, it doesn't belong there.

[Stoney Mason]

It's very simple. If it doesn't fit, it doesn't belong there.

Just like sex!

[CHOW CHOW]

hey i have a choice between these 2 motherboards

1.  has usb 3.0  http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128429
2.  has no usb 3.0 but is $20 cheaper  http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131623

what to do? i'm guessing get the one with usb 3.0 unless it's not a big deal?

[Raban]

hey i have a choice between these 2 motherboards

1.  has usb 3.0  http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128429
2.  has no usb 3.0 but is $20 cheaper  http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131623

what to do? i'm guessing get the one with usb 3.0 unless it's not a big deal?

iirc USB 3.0 isn't utilized by like, anything.

[CHOW CHOW]

you think it will in a couple years?  i'll def still have this mobo then

also, what do you think of getting a 24" monitor?  is that overkill?  this is the one i'm getting http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236049, only $230 and 5 stars from like 600 reviews

[Raban]

you think it will in a couple years?  i'll def still have this mobo then

also, what do you think of getting a 24" monitor?  is that overkill?  this is the one i'm getting http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236049, only $230 and 5 stars from like 600 reviews

No, you won't have that mobo then. Not if you want to stay up to date. Usually you want to cycle out the guts of your computer every two/three years. It'll eventually catch on, but it isn't worth the extra $20.

As far as monitors. Price and size is all up to wallet-size and personal preference respectively. Outside of that, make sure the response time is below 5ms, and the contrast ratio is above 1,000:1.

EDIT: Yeah, that monitor is solid afaik.