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Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
« Reply #300 on: January 30, 2010, 01:25:25 AM »
My father is back to wanting one of these things again.  :-\

Him: "It will be great for people who just use computers for light entertainment.  Hell, now that I'm retired, I could do just about everything I need to on one.  I wouldn't need to buy another computer.  This would replace it entirely!"
Me: "How are you going to sync up your phone?  And your music?  And you can't do everything you need to on it anyway.  It doesn't even have a camera!"
Him: "What do you mean?  It syncs right up to a computer just like an iPhone.  And it's just missing flash -Apple will get that worked in sooner or later.  Who cares about a camera?"
Me: "No, you said an iPad would replace your computer.  You can't sync up your phone to it.  And you're also limited to the app store.  You can't use different browsers or any other types of software/plug-ins you might want to use.  No camera means no visuals on something like Skype."
Him: "......."
Me: "This thing is just a giant iPhone.  You can't use it as a computer replacement like you might be able to use a tablet PC.  And it's worthless to just about anyone who has an iPhone.  This thing is going to bomb.  It's another MacBook Air.  And you just know the next version will have a bunch of the shit this first one is missing."
Him: "It will be a lot more successful than you think!"
Me: "Whatever.  All I know is that you don't need one.  Stop trying to convince yourself.  You barely even use the iPhone you have now.   :lol"
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« Reply #301 on: January 30, 2010, 03:35:08 AM »
The only eReader I'm really interested in is the nook.

This thing is like Apple's PSPgo, but it's going to sell a ton instead of bomb.

If you want a netbook, in the same price range there are many that will net you much better specs.
If you want an eBook reader, there are cheaper alternatives that don't fricassee your eyeballs.

This really appeals to nobody but macfags.

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« Reply #304 on: January 30, 2010, 12:50:05 PM »
does mobile safari use html5?

I just looked it up and it does in some limited form. It looks to support the video tags so maybe Apple were forward thinking with this.
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« Reply #305 on: January 30, 2010, 02:46:54 PM »
http://gizmodo.com/5460203/the-apple+amazon-ebook-war-begins-amazon-deletes-macmillan-books

stuff like this is why i will never, ever pay full retail price for or fully trust digital distribution

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AWESOME! Now Book piracy will become a standard. The selection of piratable well formatted books is going to increase ten fold. THANKS PUBLISHING ASSHOLES!

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« Reply #306 on: January 30, 2010, 03:06:51 PM »
I'm still in awe (I really shouldn't be) at the publishers belief that an e-book should be priced exactly the same as something that has been printed and distributed physically (in some cases, more so!). Truly a case for wanting their cake and eating it.
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« Reply #307 on: January 30, 2010, 07:22:35 PM »
Yeah. And no-one can proffer a better reason than "Publishers are haemorrhaging money. BOOKS MAY VANISH FROM OUR CULTURE UNLESS YOU PAY UP"
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« Reply #308 on: January 30, 2010, 07:28:04 PM »
The whole debate is silly too. There are going to be so many tablet and reader devices on the market within the next year that unless everyone can agree on an affordable, impulse buy price point (like 99 cents for music) - piracy will eat away their profit margins. It doesn't help that there are like ten different formats that people are selling books in.
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« Reply #309 on: January 30, 2010, 08:18:21 PM »
somewhere in the range of $4.99-$6.99 would be ideal, and they were selling well at an inflated $9.99 but it seems pubs are intent on committing sucide by shifting to Apple and pricing text at $15

it takes less than a second to download an entire novel in .epub format, btw - pirating books is something you don't even need torrents or newsgroups for
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« Reply #310 on: January 30, 2010, 08:23:00 PM »
i still cant comprehend how they let this thing out into the wild without flash

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« Reply #311 on: January 30, 2010, 08:25:50 PM »
The whole debate is silly too. There are going to be so many tablet and reader devices on the market within the next year that unless everyone can agree on an affordable, impulse buy price point (like 99 cents for music) - piracy will eat away their profit margins. It doesn't help that there are like ten different formats that people are selling books in.

This is something I can't stand. I hate that we've done this with every media in existence, and it only gets more spun out and convoluted as time goes on. Movies have at least five different formats, music is probably around ten iirc, and eBooks are coming in different formats as well. Embedded video was once just flash, but now that's spun out into three different varieties. This shit really needs to stop.

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« Reply #312 on: January 30, 2010, 08:32:24 PM »
somewhere in the range of $4.99-$6.99 would be ideal, and they were selling well at an inflated $9.99 but it seems pubs are intent on committing sucide by shifting to Apple and pricing text at $15

At $4.99, I would impulse buy just about anything, especially older OOP stuff just to avoid the trip to the used book store / using Amazon zShops. $9.99 for hardcovers is inflated but I could deal.

Book piracy is gonna be out of control, though. I mean, you thought music piracy was bad. Once these readers are out and prevalent, it's gonna be brutal.
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« Reply #313 on: January 30, 2010, 08:33:53 PM »
If books were more like .99 for older books and 4.99 for newer stuff I'd be so down.

I want the nook really bad, but the book prices are through the roof for the most part. And no support from Penguin makes me :'(

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« Reply #314 on: January 30, 2010, 08:44:36 PM »
i get the feeling apple is going to disallow any ipad-specific stanza/kindle/etc ebook reader app
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« Reply #315 on: January 30, 2010, 10:09:57 PM »
Book piracy is gonna be out of control, though. I mean, you thought music piracy was bad. Once these readers are out and prevalent, it's gonna be brutal.

Pretty much. The publishers are in for a world of pain if they're going to make it this expensive and this convoluted for people to buy books for tablets/readers. iTunes worked because it was easy, simple and affordable.

$15 for digital text? Are you fucking kidding me? I don't think I've paid that much for an actual book in like, four years.
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« Reply #316 on: January 31, 2010, 08:44:40 AM »


Here's a 15 minute hands-on.


After watching this, I am still interested, but probably will wait a few years. Seems like the apps need to "catch up" to the Ipad. They don't seem to really utilize the size and speed of the Ipad. Also, it just looks awkward balancing the thing on one hand while you have your other hand free to mash on it.

I'd probably feel different if I didn't just buy my wife an Ipod touch last christmas. Any kind of "wow" effect is muted.




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« Reply #317 on: January 31, 2010, 08:53:10 AM »
Would be awesome if they had a recessed bar in the back of the thing that you could grab (goes against the sleep jumbo iPod look though). But something definitely needs to be made to actually be able to hold the thing, I can't believe they designed it like that. The only comfortable way I can think of is placing it on your forearms like your putting it in a headlock.
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« Reply #318 on: January 31, 2010, 09:38:10 AM »
I read pirated ebooks from time to time.

There is no way I'll pay $15 for a book online.  Paying the same price for a hardcover as an online version, especially since it is digital distribution, is pretty much bullshit.  I often re-read books I own several times and I'd hate for a service to go belly up but stupidly paying the same price I could for actually owning the book.

I suppose the best thing for me to do is wait to see if the iPad shakes things up.  I suspect in the end, I'll stick with regular books.  I think the Kindle will keep going since Amazon is a strong, stable company.  The nook, not so much.
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« Reply #319 on: January 31, 2010, 10:01:12 AM »
An author on my FB feed stated that price of ebooks is just a matter of what they need to sell to make money. I'll paraphrase, but he echo'd another author's sentiment that it is preferable to have 2000 fans that paid $10 a book than 20,000 fans who paid 99˘. I can only see that thinking as very short-term. Yes, you've got a small group of people who are willing to pay more money for your stuff, but it's less likely that your audience will grow on impulse buys or advice, particularly since the "loaning" of ebooks is still complex and poorly implemented.

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« Reply #320 on: January 31, 2010, 10:26:03 AM »
Well, Jobs is somewhat right about Flash (it fucking sucks), and as for Google, I've always thought that moving to a reliance on web-only applications/programs is only partially useful.

Jobs says some incredibly short-sighted (and outright stupid) things sometimes.  When asked about ereaders a couple of years ago he responded along the lines of "No one reads anymore."  Which is flat-out wrong, and blatantly stupid.  Think about how much time the average person spends on the internet every day.  And I'm not talking about dicking around on message boards, either.  I'm talking about looking up information, online newspapers, reading for entertainment, etc.  More people read now than ever simply because of that ease of access - I'm not convinced it's made the world more intelligent as a whole, or that everything being read is beneficial or edifying, but it's a fact.  And now he's using that fact as a selling point for his slab.

I think ebooks are one of the best things to come out of the internet. Do they take some getting used to?  Sure.  However, I've already read books that I never would have had access to (without extensive travel or enormous amounts of money) had ebooks never existed.  I do worry a little about the future, and what could potentially be lost forever should books and information make that shift to being solely delivered in a digital format, but while they're around I'm glad I can take advantage of them.  

As for pricing, this is just another example of media corporations making the transition to digital by overreacting, and fucking themselves into a rampant piracy situation before they finally wise up and start realising that five dollars is better than no dollars.  They better come to that realisation faster than the music and movie businesses did, though.  I agree with the thought that this will be worse than music or movies, as far as piracy.  There are already scanning groups out there who OCR paper books which aren't available in ebook formats (which is sort of crazy to me, considering the time involved). The average size of an ebook in a pure .txt file format is around 500kb, and as I've said it takes less than a second to download.  You don't need torrents or newsgroups to get them.  What would be equivalent to a bookshelf full of novels can be sent as an email attachment.  This will spin out of corporate control faster than music or movies ever did, because you don't need anything special to pirate it.
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« Reply #321 on: January 31, 2010, 10:36:03 AM »
$5 is an excellent price for an eBook.
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« Reply #322 on: January 31, 2010, 09:27:51 PM »
hahaha, amazon already caved:

http://gizmodo.com/5460826/amazon-gives-in-will-sell-ebooks-on-macmillans-terms

amazon has their own print-on-demand self-publishing service called createspace - https://www.createspace.com/ and you can self-publish your work via kindle format here https://dtp.amazon.com/mn/signin

i wonder if any big names will start bypassing publishers altogether?



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« Reply #323 on: February 01, 2010, 12:16:47 AM »
hahaha, amazon already caved:

http://gizmodo.com/5460826/amazon-gives-in-will-sell-ebooks-on-macmillans-terms

amazon has their own print-on-demand self-publishing service called createspace - https://www.createspace.com/ and you can self-publish your work via kindle format here https://dtp.amazon.com/mn/signin

i wonder if any big names will start bypassing publishers altogether?
Way to cave, Amazon! "We will eventually capitulate, at which point it will be up to you" -- pass that buck. Or fifteen bucks, as the case may be.

In reality, this is how it should be, though: let the market decide what it will pay. If other publishers are offering lower prices than MacMillan, they may eventually come around. Hopefully it doesn't go the other way.

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« Reply #324 on: February 01, 2010, 12:46:09 AM »
lol at amazon bleating in defeat about MacMillan having a 'monopoly' over its own titles. Fuck off, it owns them! It doesn't prevent other publishers from owning other books, which would be monopolistic perhaps.

Amazon needs to man up and buy a publisher, THEN we can talk seriously about a 'monopoly' in the publishing industry.

Having said that, MacMillan is surely taking a big risk here. Amazon knows a hell of a lot more about what prices people will tolerate for online purchases than they do. I think $5 should be plenty to let everybody dip their beak, myself, but I'm aware that most niche authors only survive because a passionate minority are prepared to pay $30-plus for hardbacks and rare works. Most textbooks would not exist at a $5 price point, for example.
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« Reply #325 on: February 01, 2010, 01:06:01 AM »
Online textbooks by themselves usually cost $40-$50 but usually the big $200 physical textbook is bundled with an online access code that includes everything (etext and the often graded online homework problems) and that lasts you for the entire course series.  At least that's how math and science classes are doing it these days.

If ebook readers had a touch screen (so you can do the homework) and compatibility with all of the online stuff on the publisher websites, I could see them really taking off with the students who don't want to lug around a textbook everywhere.  We're probably a few years away from that though.
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« Reply #326 on: February 01, 2010, 01:11:38 AM »
My point is that textbooks are limited by the size of the market, so reducing the price won't do anything for increasing total sales. Selling more of the ebook version will just cannibalize sales of the paper version, resulting in a net loss for the publisher vs 100% paper sales.
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« Reply #327 on: February 01, 2010, 01:37:13 AM »
It's not the same thing as obscure writers with niche markets because the textbooks publishers usually make dozens of different textbooks for many different subjects and they already know precisely how many teachers are going to require their classes to buy that book.  That means that they have guaranteed sales and know exactly how many pennies to charge for everything to make a profit.  You can right now buy an online etextbook with all the online homework and guides for a fraction of the cost of the physical textbook, which to me sounds like there's a huge cost in actually printing and shipping a book.

If you're student, it's more convenient to get a netbook/tablet and access your (cheaper/more useful version) books on that.  Hell, I probably already spend more time looking at online material than looking at the paper books and I usually don't carry a computer to school.
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« Reply #328 on: February 01, 2010, 01:53:32 AM »
I don't even know what point you're trying to make, never mind what point of mine you're responding to. You do this a lot.

Yes, they have guaranteed sales, but they also have a hard ceiling on sales. Just because they have guaranteed sales does NOT imply that they make a profit, however. A large percentage of retail offerings in any market never make a profit yet they continue to be offered. This is especially true of publishing - the profits on best sellers pay for everything else. So you can't just work back from current prices and say 'that's what they cost, and this is how much profit the publishers must be making'.

The price of a paper textbook also factors in the RESALE value of that book. You will pay more for a physical copy if you know you can flip it when you're done with it, like a car. They can't price that in with most ebooks (yet).
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« Reply #329 on: February 01, 2010, 02:35:27 AM »
well what I'm trying to say is just that a publisher will know before the book hits the market approximately how many students will be required to buy it (as in if the class requires the book or the supplemental materials).  That makes it easier to predict how much to charge for it.

For used books, it's complicated.  If the book is about to be revised (usually every 4 years) then it has no resale value and a brand new book also loses some value after every owner, especially the second to last one since they have to sell it to someone who knows that they can't sell it again.  Even if it's cheaper that way, you may still need to buy an online access code (which is bundled with a new book or with the etext).

For math and science books, there's a definite market there.

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There goes another one
« Reply #330 on: February 02, 2010, 07:37:00 PM »
http://gizmodo.com/5462724/another-blow-in-the-great-amazonapple-publishing-war-harpercollins

The upshot is that bestsellers will be hitting the usual suspect "distribution channels" a lot sooner!
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« Reply #331 on: February 02, 2010, 08:04:29 PM »
This wouldn't be a problem if they didn't insist on selling to amazon at the same prices as their regular books. Amazon taking a $5 hit on each ebook is just surreal. That'll only last as long as they're selling mountains of kindles.

There is so much they could do here. Package codes along with physical copies. Offer all-you-can-eat services. Allow subscriptions to all publications in a particular field for scholars. But no. MUST BE SAME PRICE AS THE PAPER OR BOOKS WILL DIE.
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« Reply #332 on: February 02, 2010, 08:19:34 PM »
Its as if all these publishers don't realize that piracy is a huge threat and will only drive users to piracy by willfully sabotaging their own e-Book sales (by hiking the prices).

teiresias on GAF posted two examples. One where Mcmillan priced an e-Book and hardcover similarly and kept the e-Book price the same despite the soft cover being out for a year. Another being an e-Book priced at $16.50 and the Hardcover priced $15.50 (not exact but basically a dollar off).
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« Reply #333 on: February 02, 2010, 08:44:35 PM »
Once the legwork for the print version of a novel is done (editing, formatting, promotional expenses, etc) converting to ebook format adds very little (if any) expense on top of that.  If a major new work was released solely in the ebook format, I could understand some of the arguments being made, but that's never been the case.  People are going to vote with their wallets moreso than movies or music here.  They're just not going to buy them - or they're going to steal them.  And stealing them is very, very easy - hell, you could post the text of a novel as a message on a forum, barring any sort of character limit for posts.
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« Reply #334 on: February 02, 2010, 09:13:19 PM »
also, novels are TINY compared to music
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« Reply #335 on: February 02, 2010, 09:27:32 PM »
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« Reply #336 on: February 02, 2010, 09:43:57 PM »
Not being widescreen is just stupid. I remember reading comics on my Hp TX1000 and it was perfect. This... this is just stupid.
The iPad is 4:3, or 1.33 while western comics are 1.57. That's less horrible than watching a 2.35 movie on a 1.78 (16:9) screen.
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This wouldn't be a problem if they didn't insist on selling to amazon at the same prices as their regular books. Amazon taking a $5 hit on each ebook is just surreal. That'll only last as long as they're selling mountains of kindles.

There is so much they could do here. Package codes along with physical copies. Offer all-you-can-eat services. Allow subscriptions to all publications in a particular field for scholars. But no. MUST BE SAME PRICE AS THE PAPER OR BOOKS WILL DIE.
ebooks are living in distinguished mentally-challenged-land right now; the publishers worry about how to make as much money humanly possible, trying to carry the perceived value of their product into the digital age, ignoring the difference of the format. Ever try loaning a DRM-formatted ebook to a friend? Ever try selling a "first edition" ebook to a collector? Ever considered the shelfspace and gasoline needed to ship an ebook to its end user? Apparently they haven't.

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« Reply #337 on: February 02, 2010, 10:20:35 PM »
also, novels are TINY compared to music

I think Eel  has made this point in every single one of his posts on the thread.
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« Reply #338 on: February 02, 2010, 10:23:48 PM »
i just can't get over the fact that we know there's never been a media easier to pirate and yet, apparently, publishers don't

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« Reply #339 on: February 02, 2010, 10:29:13 PM »
It'll take a while.

And in the meantime, we all have a great excuse to pirate the crap out of them. Yay. :pirate
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« Reply #340 on: February 02, 2010, 10:32:55 PM »
I dunno.  Libraries fulfill my need for new books so that supresses my Must Have impulses
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« Reply #341 on: February 02, 2010, 10:34:05 PM »
Japanese libraries :(
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« Reply #342 on: February 02, 2010, 11:09:41 PM »
Japanese libraries :(
Japanese libraries.
Prices on imported western books at -ANY- Japanese storefront.
Selection of imported western books at -ANY- Japanese storefront.
*weeps openly*
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« Reply #343 on: February 03, 2010, 12:22:08 AM »
Japanese libraries :(
Japanese libraries.
Prices on imported western books at -ANY- Japanese storefront.
Selection of imported western books at -ANY- Japanese storefront.
*weeps openly*
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NOW do you people see why I want an iPad.
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« Reply #344 on: February 03, 2010, 02:56:13 AM »
I can't remember a time when I didn't own 100 books :tophat
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« Reply #345 on: February 03, 2010, 03:22:47 AM »
I think I have like 20 books. Half of which are at or have more than 300 pages. Kind of tough to lug around.

But Cormac, I wouldn't get an iPad, that's like burning money. Get a legit eReader, but wait until this nonsense settles.

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« Reply #346 on: February 03, 2010, 03:37:05 PM »
I personally would have marketed it as the end all to college text books / notebooks - like Apple or Amazon really should get on that textbook market where you could just use one of these devices and download/load a CD/USB to your book and have it at your convience instead of dragging around books.

I thought of that when going with my girl her bookstore saying what shit this is still with this archaic money hole scheme that they do - making new SLIGHTLY new editions yearly and charging and arm and a leg for them.

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« Reply #347 on: February 03, 2010, 03:42:06 PM »
I can't remember a time when I didn't own 100 books :tophat

i don't even want to think about how many books i have

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« Reply #348 on: February 03, 2010, 03:44:38 PM »
I can't remember a time when I didn't own 100 books :tophat

i don't even want to think about how many books i have



Lol same

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Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
« Reply #349 on: February 03, 2010, 03:56:15 PM »
when I moved back from Japan 80% of my boxes were books, and that was after getting rid of 2/3 of my books
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Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
« Reply #350 on: February 03, 2010, 04:05:35 PM »
books and records are my love

my curse
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Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
« Reply #351 on: February 03, 2010, 04:53:04 PM »
Holy shit that is a lot of books. I own 2 books and both were gifts from EB SS.  :lol
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Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
« Reply #352 on: February 03, 2010, 07:17:43 PM »
I think I have like 20 books. Half of which are at or have more than 300 pages. Kind of tough to lug around.

But Cormac, I wouldn't get an iPad, that's like burning money. Get a legit eReader, but wait until this nonsense settles.

Buying an apartment in Tokyo is burning money. This is chump change.

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Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
« Reply #353 on: February 03, 2010, 07:43:44 PM »
I think I have like 20 books. Half of which are at or have more than 300 pages. Kind of tough to lug around.

But Cormac, I wouldn't get an iPad, that's like burning money. Get a legit eReader, but wait until this nonsense settles.

The lowest price iPad is $2 more than the large Kindle...has a color screen and a fucking BACKLIGHT. It's a more legit eReader than the Kindle is.
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Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
« Reply #354 on: February 03, 2010, 07:46:13 PM »
has a color screen and a fucking BACKLIGHT. It's a more legit eReader than the Kindle is.

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Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
« Reply #355 on: February 03, 2010, 07:48:52 PM »
Does it use e-ink? No!

I can't read a two or three page article on an LCD screen without getting eyestrain.

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Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
« Reply #356 on: February 03, 2010, 07:55:37 PM »
Three of my classes are going nuts with online materials. "We're saving paper!" No you're not; I just end up printing everything anyway.

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Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
« Reply #357 on: February 03, 2010, 08:06:44 PM »
Three of my classes are going nuts with online materials. "We're saving paper!" No you're not; I just end up printing everything anyway.
That means they're saving paper, but you're not.

BTW, this was a charming article by the articulate and largely reasonable (or at least large) Stephen Fry:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2010/jan/29/stephen-fry-apple-ipad

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« Reply #358 on: February 03, 2010, 08:12:25 PM »
Stephen Fry DEFINES articulate and charming. Utter redundancy there but thanks for the link.
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Re: Apple Announcement: iPad, more like iPass, amirite?
« Reply #359 on: February 03, 2010, 09:17:38 PM »
has a color screen and a fucking BACKLIGHT. It's a more legit eReader than the Kindle is.

Shake.my.head.

I'm glad somebody understands what's up about this piece of trash.