Author Topic: Jurassic Park - Looking Back (Read 11237 times)

MrAngryFace · « **on:** December 17, 2006, 01:21:12 PM »

I picked this up the other day because I was going to buy the first movie for 10 dollars anyway, why not get the lower quality sequels for 5 bux each in a neat package. To be honest tho, my nostalgia was taking me for a ride. The movie just isn't that good aside from one scene which is just badass. First off, what's with the directors choice to show me this whenever possible:

I mean why open a scene with that shot in the first place? I was pretty young back then but its easy to understand if I selectively forgot that ol Jeff was a sex symbol of some sort. I also hated the whole girl knows computer angle just cause they couldnt back it up. She's a self proclaimed 'hacker' but she stumbles and fumbles and gawks in wonder at a unix based system running the park. OMG I JUST GOTTA FIND RITE FILE:

Then there's that scene where the man HIRED to care for the health of the DINOSAURS has apparently forgotten to check the sick dinosaur's eyes for pupil dilation. So the guy who is apparently the expert, and labeled VET in the subtitles, avoided doing some of the most basic exercises for locating symptoms and instead sat there going "I DUNNO".

Then there's the GREAT ICE CREAM DEBATE where two of the main characters shove ice cream in their face to discuss the implications of the park. Which leads me to the bigger question, you know all that food the kids are shoving their face with when they get back to the vistors center? WHERE DID IT COME FROM? Everyone was sent home the night before. A night of open air for all of that food would have fucking RUINED IT. I mean its clearly there to serve as an element of the wooo everything is ok NO ITS NOT RAPTORS scene, but jesus christ couldnt they have found the food in generic sliding door fridge units or SOMETHING?

This leads me to believe that not only can the Raptors test electric fences, kill an experienced HUNTER, OPEN DOORS, and KILL SAMUEL L JACKSON, but they are also expert chefs!

The best part of the movie, and probably the only part that didnt die to deflated nostalgia was:

The Miles Trahan Burger Experiment · « **Reply #1 on:** December 17, 2006, 01:22:25 PM »

I've never been a big fan of any Jurassic Park films. Just not my cup of tea.

Solo · « **Reply #2 on:** December 17, 2006, 01:22:32 PM »

Newsflash: the movie has always been shit. But I'll be damned if the visual effects arent still mighty impressive, and I like the score.

MrAngryFace · « **Reply #3 on:** December 17, 2006, 01:23:29 PM »

Lost World the book was wayyyy better than the movie.

Cheebs · « **Reply #4 on:** December 17, 2006, 02:06:24 PM »

Jurassic Park is far from the best mainstream blockbuster Spielberg film. Hell, War of the Worlds is better than Jurassic Park.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #5 on:** December 17, 2006, 02:19:28 PM »

Quote from: Cheebs on December 17, 2006, 02:06:24 PM

Shut up

I watched Jurassic Park last night, along with Lord of the Rings: ROTK, Gladiator, The Matrix, and 5 minutes of Judge Dredd (it sucked so bad I had to turn the TV off).

MAF all your complaints seem like very weak nit-pickings, especially when aimed toward an adventure movie. I don't think anyone's first complaint about an adventure movie is going to be how unrealistic small parts are such as the girl's alleged hacking skills. If you're going to nit-pick something as insignifigant as that I'm suprised you aren't complaining about the very point of the movie: that the world's greatest scientists would be stupid enough to use frog DNA to fill in gene sequences and NOT know the possible dangers in sex transformation. If you can get by that, you can get by a little girl wishing she was a hacker.

In fact my opinion is that the scientists at Jurassic Park were not that smart. It makes more since to think that they were quickly assembled by John Hammond, paid a bunch of money, and then pushed to create the dinosaurs with little research or experimentation. Remember, Hammond offered Dr. Grant and his girlfriend a bunch of money to come to the island on the spot and then told them they'd be leaving for the island in less than a week. He was like a mad scientist. And when you think of the movie from that angle, it makes perfect sense.

The movie is filled with amazing scenes, and to say the T-Rex scene is the only good one is being a little too hyperbolic, even for you. The rapter scene in the kitchen is one of the best scenes in the movie. The chase scene with the T-Rex. The rapter hunting scene. Hammond's confrontation with Ellie Sattler over dinner (the "flea circus" scene). Or what about Dennis' 15 minute dash to sell the dino DNA, and his hilarious demise? The movie is filled with awesome action/adventure scenes.

Jurassic Park is a great adventure movie, and it stands the test of time by even today's standards. In fact, it surpasses them in some ways. The dinosaurs in Jurassic Park look much better than the "dragon" in Eragon. In fact, the only good dragon in that movie is shown for like 3 seconds at the very end of the movie, to set up the sequel.

CajoleJuice · « **Reply #6 on:** December 17, 2006, 02:21:45 PM »

Quote from: Phoenix Dark on December 17, 2006, 02:19:28 PM

Wow. That's like 10 hours of movies.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #7 on:** December 17, 2006, 02:24:50 PM »

Indeed. TNT was fucking awesome last night

Van Cruncheon · « **Reply #8 on:** December 17, 2006, 02:28:32 PM »

Jurassic Park sucks, PD, you're just a fanboy because it's a fable for the Christian home-schooled: you shouldn't tamper in God's domain!

AHUAHUA

Garnet · « **Reply #9 on:** December 17, 2006, 02:34:46 PM »

the first one was awesome. It was something new and exciting then they bloody ruined it with the shit sequels. Boo I say. Boo.

brawndolicious · « **Reply #10 on:** December 17, 2006, 02:38:08 PM »

God PD, shut the fuck up about frog DNA. The movie sucked. HORRIBLE acting, cheesy plot, and no real ending.

Ecrofirt · « **Reply #11 on:** December 17, 2006, 02:41:13 PM »

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whiteACID · « **Reply #12 on:** December 17, 2006, 02:46:31 PM »

Jurassic Park is still a great movie.

Cheebs · « **Reply #13 on:** December 17, 2006, 02:54:38 PM »

The ONLY people who love JP are those who were young when it came out and got caught up in the mania. I was 7 or 8 when it came out and I knew even then Jaws, Indiana Jones, CE3K, & ET were far better.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #14 on:** December 17, 2006, 03:04:07 PM »

Quote from: Cheebs on December 17, 2006, 02:54:38 PM

ET is the most overrated movie of all time.

Indiana Jones>Jaws>Jurassic Park>*

And it looks like all the babes agree with me. I WIN

CajoleJuice · « **Reply #15 on:** December 17, 2006, 03:09:43 PM »

Yea, ET does suck, that's for sure.

Cheebs · « **Reply #16 on:** December 17, 2006, 03:14:18 PM »

Quote from: Phoenix Dark on December 17, 2006, 03:04:07 PM

No one can call Jurassic Park better than CE3K. It is one of the top films Spielberg EVER did. It was in that AFI Top 100 films of all time that you posted sir(#64)!

How can you call JP better than CE3K? It's one of the most beloved "blockbuster" films Spielberg did and damn was it amazing.

Van Cruncheon · « **Reply #17 on:** December 17, 2006, 03:16:41 PM »

ET is a fuckin' turd

Cheebs · « **Reply #18 on:** December 17, 2006, 03:17:17 PM »

Quote from: Drinky Crow on December 17, 2006, 03:16:41 PM

I liked ET but Indiana Jones, Jaws, and CE3K are better.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #19 on:** December 17, 2006, 03:20:23 PM »

Quote from: Cheebs on December 17, 2006, 03:14:18 PM

CE3K is almost more overrated than ET. Granted I haven't seen it since I was 10, but if I remember correctly it was extremely boring with a terrible ending that didn't warrant watching the movie.

Cheebs · « **Reply #20 on:** December 17, 2006, 03:21:18 PM »

Quote from: Phoenix Dark on December 17, 2006, 03:20:23 PM

Your AFI list states you never have seen it though

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #21 on:** December 17, 2006, 03:24:12 PM »

I've seen it; forgot to bold it, along with Mutiny on the Bounty (which rocks).

Van Cruncheon · « **Reply #22 on:** December 17, 2006, 03:24:21 PM »

You mean RAIDERS was better. Crusade was by-the-numbers family fare, and Temple of Doom is downright Uwe Boll-esque.

Jaws is pretty eh. Spielberg's the Steven King of directors -- his products are supremely accessible and likewise supremely predictable. He's a mass-market champion and he has a Neil Peart-like technical excellence, but he hasn't brought anything new to the table since the late 70s. He's the dude the studios go to when they need their summer action blocksbuster to pull in good critical ratings; there's nothing of the auteur about him, really. I think Ridley Scott's the better and more challenging director, if we're talking prole-appeal.

Cheebs · « **Reply #23 on:** December 17, 2006, 03:26:58 PM »

Ridley Scott is one hell of a director. Everyone HAS to see the director's cut of Kingdom of Heaven. The theatrical cut was a pretty bad movie but the director's cut is arguably better than Gladiator.

Van Cruncheon · « **Reply #24 on:** December 17, 2006, 03:28:52 PM »

Alien still blows me away to this day -- it set the formula for the modern superthriller, and it holds up better than its many, many subsequent imitators.

However, I blame Ridley for introducing inferior directors to the frame-skip epic battle sequence with Gladiator. NOBODY has used it correctly since.

Cheebs · « **Reply #25 on:** December 17, 2006, 03:31:07 PM »

I liked Alien more than Aliens. Both great but Alien is better. I might be biased since I prefer Ridley Scott as a director to James Cameron.

Also I know its a weird movie but I find Scott's movie Legend rather fun. $:-\$

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #26 on:** December 17, 2006, 03:32:14 PM »

Quote from: Drinky Crow on December 17, 2006, 03:24:21 PM

You don't like Jaws? $:-\$

RAIDERS is classic. Temple of Doom was decent but disappointing. Crusade is amazing because it got back to fighting Nazis while adding some very cool things (CONNERY).

I think the only Scott movies I've seen are Gladiator, Alien, and Thelma and Louise, all of which rocked. Everyone says Blade Runner is imo awesome so I'll check it out.

Spielberg is still a brilliant director though. Even I can admit that movies like ET revolutionalized modern films in many ways. That still doesn't stop it from sucking in my eyes. Hook>ET

-Indiana Jones (Raiders and Crusade)
-Jaws
-Duel
-The Color Purple
-Amistad (criminally underappreciated)
-Saving Private Ryan
-AI
-Minority Report
-Jurassic Park
-CE3K (another innovative movie, but I just wasn't impressed as a kid)

Not many directors have such varied, awesome lists of films under their belt.

Van Cruncheon · « **Reply #27 on:** December 17, 2006, 03:33:57 PM »

I liked Alien better, too; in fact, nowadays, it's the ONLY one of the series I'll consistently watch. Aliens is well-shot and fun to view from time to time, but the sets look hokey and there's just too much Cameron-styled directorial bombast -- it's like the insulin shock of cinema.

CajoleJuice · « **Reply #28 on:** December 17, 2006, 03:34:19 PM »

You forgot Schindler's List, PD

And Cheebs, I guess I have to check out that director's cut of Kingdom of Heaven because the theatrical cut was pretty god-awful.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #29 on:** December 17, 2006, 03:35:30 PM »

Alien is one of the scariest movies I've ever seen, if not the scariest. The idea of being chased by some douche in a mask is simply not scary to me; I could outrun that fucker Michael Myers with a bladder full of Corona.

On the other hand, the idea of unknowingly being impregnated by an alien species and having it bust out of my stomach at a random moment in time...damn.

The Miles Trahan Burger Experiment · « **Reply #30 on:** December 17, 2006, 03:35:51 PM »

Hey, leave PD alone, his favorite movie is Forrest Gump after all.

Van Cruncheon · « **Reply #31 on:** December 17, 2006, 03:36:19 PM »

There's nothing challenging in that list. In fact, they fall into two category: summer blockbusters, and preachy maudlin historical commentaries. His best moment is probably Saving Private Ryan, because it wasn't shot in his typical style and DID have a big influence on the war epic. Call me when he gets REAL variety like the works of Hitchcock, Herzog, or Cronenberg.

Temple of Doom is PURE CRAP. It has an awful plot, awful acting, terrible progression, and some really REALLY awkward shots. A few big staged sequences does not make a good directorial outing; it just means you have budget and a good crew.

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Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #32 on:** December 17, 2006, 03:37:45 PM »

Quote from: Drinky Crow on December 17, 2006, 03:36:19 PM

Wow my mind is in another place; I was actually listening to them as I typed that. Amazing band

Ecrofirt · « **Reply #33 on:** December 17, 2006, 03:40:34 PM »

Quote from: Drinky Crow on December 17, 2006, 03:28:52 PM

What is this frame skip you speak of?

The Miles Trahan Burger Experiment · « **Reply #34 on:** December 17, 2006, 03:42:16 PM »

They skip a couple of frames to give the battle scenes this very "heart pusling" beat.

Van Cruncheon · « **Reply #35 on:** December 17, 2006, 03:42:55 PM »

It's when they replay a battle sequence at 12 frames per second with high sepia saturation and post-processing -- it's supposed to make the battle look adrenalized and frenzied, and capture the sort of feeling a combatant gets where time seems to reduce itself to individual intense snapshots of action and confusion. It worked in Gladiator -- kinda. It hasn't worked since.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #36 on:** December 17, 2006, 03:43:11 PM »

Quote from: The Dark Shake on December 17, 2006, 03:35:51 PM

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I got somethin' to say. And then I ain't gonna say no more. He took advantage of me. An' if you fine, fancy gentlemen ain't gonna do nothin' about it, then you're just a bunch of lousy, yella, stinkin' cowards, the - the whole bunch of ya, and your fancy airs don't come to nothin'! Your Ma'am'in' and your Miss Mayellarin' - it don't come to nothin', Mr. Finch, not... no.

The Miles Trahan Burger Experiment · « **Reply #37 on:** December 17, 2006, 03:43:54 PM »

Ah, to Kill a Mockingbird...

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Gregory Peck...

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Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #38 on:** December 17, 2006, 03:45:45 PM »

Quote from: Drinky Crow on December 17, 2006, 03:42:55 PM

At least in Gladiator you can still see exactly what's happening in the battles. Movies like BATMAN BEGINS rock, but they use that technique to very poor results. The fight in the first few minutes of the movie (in the prison) is so frenzied and shaky it's terrible.

But for an even better example of this, watch ERAGON $:-\$

CajoleJuice · « **Reply #39 on:** December 17, 2006, 03:46:13 PM »

Gladiator rocks. Watched some of it last night. I'll never forget seeing it in the theaters.

The Miles Trahan Burger Experiment · « **Reply #40 on:** December 17, 2006, 03:47:45 PM »

Yeh, if anything Batman Begins' action scenes were a little too "wtf is happening" for my tastes. $:-\$

CajoleJuice · « **Reply #41 on:** December 17, 2006, 03:48:47 PM »

Quote from: The Dark Shake on December 17, 2006, 03:47:45 PM

The Bourne Supremacy had the same bullshit. Ugh.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #42 on:** December 17, 2006, 03:49:14 PM »

Quote from: CajoleJuice on December 17, 2006, 03:46:13 PM

Hopefully you didn't watch it with complete buffons.

"Wait, that's how Julius Caeser died? I thought he got killed by Bruton?"

I kid you not

CajoleJuice · « **Reply #43 on:** December 17, 2006, 03:51:20 PM »

My friends aren't morons. If anything, I was the one making the most jokes.

We all walked out thinking....that was fucking awesome. Being 12/13 helped. It was the most awesome movie experience I had up until that time. Possibly still is, as I'm not the biggest LOTR fan.

The Miles Trahan Burger Experiment · « **Reply #44 on:** December 17, 2006, 03:52:05 PM »

Quote from: CajoleJuice on December 17, 2006, 03:48:47 PM

Yeah, but that's because it was directed by a fuckin' hack.

Cheebs · « **Reply #45 on:** December 17, 2006, 03:54:51 PM »

Quote from: CajoleJuice on December 17, 2006, 03:34:19 PM

I thought the theatrical KoH was shit. It really shows when depending on what day it is I would call the director's cut of it better than Gladiator.

My top 5 Ridley movies are

1. Blade Runner
2. Alien
3. Kingdom of Heaven (DC)
4. Gladiator
5. Black Hawk Down

I also have to mention Thelma & Louise, Legend, and Matchstick Men. All great stuff.

G The Resurrected · « **Reply #46 on:** December 17, 2006, 04:14:44 PM »

Jurassic park was an awesome movie dammit I still think its an amazing movie. From a technical aspect it still holds up which to me is surprising. But its that damn score that puts everything together and really does the movie some justice.

I hated the last two Jurassic Park movies, but I'll watch 3 from time to time. Fuck Lost World I watched it once at the theater and have been able to avoid that trash since. I'll keep to the book for that one.

And yes having been a kid around the time of it coming out might have to do with me liking it more. But at least JP is better than ET.

Anyone got a updated pic of the Tom Boy girl from JP? I'd like to see how she's uh "Grown UP"

MrAngryFace · « **Reply #47 on:** December 17, 2006, 05:12:04 PM »

Lol PD sharing opinions.

MrAngryFace · « **Reply #48 on:** December 17, 2006, 05:13:03 PM »

Its clear PD wants in on some of THIS:

Vizzys · « **Reply #49 on:** December 17, 2006, 06:38:24 PM »

ET sucked, I hate anyone who disagrees. I will kill you and dump your remains into a New Mexico landfill.

Van Cruncheon · « **Reply #50 on:** December 17, 2006, 06:44:49 PM »

Drinky Crow's Good List for the Day of Sunday 12/17/2006:
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Viz

brawndolicious · « **Reply #51 on:** December 17, 2006, 06:55:55 PM »

I think the only spielberg movie I liked was IJ. And that's only because it tried to be a popcorn movie.

JP: OMG Dinosaurs
ET: OMG Aliens.
SL: OMG Holocaust.
Jaws:OMG Um...Jaws.

Maybe CE3K is good but I haven't watched it.

And yes, Ridley Scott takes a shit in Spielberg's mouth. Spielberg always tries to make Godfather like movies where there's actually no plot, but he wants it to be seen as "original" and "authentic".

But he fails so please boycott his next movie.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #52 on:** December 17, 2006, 06:58:48 PM »

There's no plot in Godfather

Please stop posting before you further embarrass yourself

CajoleJuice · « **Reply #53 on:** December 17, 2006, 07:04:47 PM »

Quote from: Drinky Crow on December 17, 2006, 06:44:49 PM

I said ET sucks too. :'(

Van Cruncheon · « **Reply #54 on:** December 17, 2006, 07:06:10 PM »

Drinky Crow's Good List for the Day of Sunday 12/17/2006:
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Viz
CajoleJuice

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #55 on:** December 17, 2006, 07:08:09 PM »

I was the first person to say ET sucked :'(

Vizzys · « **Reply #56 on:** December 17, 2006, 07:16:53 PM »

Bu bu bu but I made a clever reference to the atari game that was dumped into a new mexico landfill.

The Miles Trahan Burger Experiment · « **Reply #57 on:** December 17, 2006, 07:22:35 PM »

HAY GUYS ET SUCKS, AM I COOL NOW?

Vizzys · « **Reply #58 on:** December 17, 2006, 07:28:37 PM »

Nope.

The Miles Trahan Burger Experiment · « **Reply #59 on:** December 17, 2006, 07:30:46 PM »

CUT MY LIFE IN2 PIECES

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