Author Topic: Is gaming becoming stagnant or am i just getting jaded?(some thoughts) (Read 18131 times)

Damian79 · « **on:** February 05, 2010, 08:55:42 PM »

I was wondering if you guys think gaming is reaching the end of its creativity. Is there much room for more creative titles next gen? Does it need to be more creative?

Also why arent there more games like Wonder Project J, Axelay and Cybernator. It is like good games comes and no one wants to expand on them. I so miss the days of the SNES. Where it seems devs came up with games upon games of great ideas. Todays games seem to be creative solely on asthetic like Madworld.

Please name me some creative games for this gen BORE!

Damian79 · « **Reply #1 on:** February 05, 2010, 08:59:28 PM »

Is mirror's edge on pc?

Damian79 · « **Reply #2 on:** February 05, 2010, 09:06:52 PM »

Just bought it off steam for $20.

Junpei the Tracer! · « **Reply #3 on:** February 05, 2010, 09:13:38 PM »

Bayonetta

drew · « **Reply #4 on:** February 05, 2010, 09:19:46 PM »

gaf is that way

Raban · « **Reply #5 on:** February 05, 2010, 09:21:57 PM »

Quote from: drew on February 05, 2010, 09:19:46 PM

gaf is that way

.

Himu · « **Reply #6 on:** February 05, 2010, 10:13:55 PM »

I mostly agree with you.

Stick with pc and you should be fine, but the three only truly creative games I have played this gen are Portal, Dead Rising and Mirror's Edge. Play all of them.

Also, downloadable titles are usually the way to go these days. Get stuff like Braid, Trine, the Pixeljunk games, whatever. Since they tend to have to go for a lower budget, they can involve more risk.

TripleA · « **Reply #7 on:** February 05, 2010, 10:22:02 PM »

Quote from: Damian79 on February 05, 2010, 08:55:42 PM

I was wondering if you guys think gaming is reaching the end of its creativity. Is there much room for more creative titles next gen? Does it need to be more creative?

Also why arent there more games like Wonder Project J, Axelay and Cybernator. It is like good games comes and no one wants to expand on them. I so miss the days of the SNES. Where it seems devs came up with games upon games of great ideas. Todays games seem to be creative solely on asthetic like Madworld.

Please name me some creative games for this gen BORE!

I wouldn't say it's reaching the end of its creativity, it's just very difficult to deliver completely fresh experiences without new hardware of sorts (Nintendo realized this creativity problem years ago btw).

This is the reason why I'm terribly disappointed in Sonys handling of their motion controller; They're in the perfect position to create revolutionary experiences yet here they are telling people nutty stuff like "u need a dualshock in one hand annnnnnnnd the motion controller in the other"

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Some creative games from this gen include Demons Souls, Super Mario Galaxy, Little Big Planet, Braid, and a lot more. Heavy Rain looks like another one, judging from the demo the game has the potential to be one of the most talked about games of the year.

Damian79 · « **Reply #8 on:** February 05, 2010, 10:22:36 PM »

I have heard of dead rising, but i never heard of it as creative, what makes it creative?

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #9 on:** February 05, 2010, 10:24:28 PM »

You're jaded and mixed with nostalgia for a past that never was.

Like most forum posters.

Trent Dole · « **Reply #10 on:** February 05, 2010, 10:26:53 PM »

Eh, you're just getting a bit bored. It happens. Something interesting will come along sooner or later.

TripleA · « **Reply #11 on:** February 05, 2010, 10:27:48 PM »

Quote from: Damian79 on February 05, 2010, 10:22:36 PM

I have heard of dead rising, but i never heard of it as creative, what makes it creative?

There's nothing creative about Dead Rising, it's right up there with Left 4 Dead for being one of the most overhyped games of this generation.

AdmiralViscen · « **Reply #12 on:** February 05, 2010, 10:29:14 PM »

is this the same distinguished mentally-challenged fellow who poo-pooed Mass Effect 2?

Himu · « **Reply #13 on:** February 05, 2010, 10:31:58 PM »

Quote from: TripleA on February 05, 2010, 10:27:48 PM

Quote from: Damian79 on February 05, 2010, 10:22:36 PM
I have heard of dead rising, but i never heard of it as creative, what makes it creative?

There's nothing creative about Dead Rising, it's right up there with Left 4 Dead for being one of the most overhyped games of this generation.

Get out.

Dead Rising is creative because it mixes an open-world and with time constraints. It's similar to Majora's Mask and BOF: Dragon Quarter, but more evolved. Every action you make will have to be accounted for on the clock, so you have to make every second count. It is a game where failure must be accepted to continue.

drew · « **Reply #14 on:** February 05, 2010, 10:33:18 PM »

FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

TripleA · « **Reply #15 on:** February 05, 2010, 10:36:11 PM »

Quote from: Himuro on February 05, 2010, 10:31:58 PM

Quote from: TripleA on February 05, 2010, 10:27:48 PM
Quote from: Damian79 on February 05, 2010, 10:22:36 PM
I have heard of dead rising, but i never heard of it as creative, what makes it creative?

There's nothing creative about Dead Rising, it's right up there with Left 4 Dead for being one of the most overhyped games of this generation.

Get out.

Dead Rising is creative because it mixes an open-world and with time constraints. It's similar to Majora's Mask and BOF: Dragon Quarter, but more evolved. Every action you make will have to be accounted for on the clock, so you have to make every second count. It is a game where failure must be accepted to continue.

I don't call that creativity, I call that a challenge.

drew · « **Reply #16 on:** February 05, 2010, 10:38:18 PM »

nfag has a childlike mind and doesnt enjoy the same genres his peers do (zombies)

heres me trying to act surprised

cool breeze · « **Reply #17 on:** February 05, 2010, 10:39:46 PM »

Quote from: Damian79 on February 05, 2010, 10:22:36 PM

I have heard of dead rising, but i never heard of it as creative, what makes it creative?

you...?

The game puts you in a mall with zombies and wacko bosses. Every time you play, the game is different because it has a time system that makes it impossible to do everything. Like, if some shit is going down in one part of the mall, you won't be there to see it if you're fighting a clown with two mini-chainsaws. There is the camera mechanic where pictures you take get rated on various criteria (sexy, horror, etc.) Then there is the entire juice mechanic where you mix various food and fruits to make different drinks that can make you run faster, increase life, etc. as well as a book mechanic that has bonuses like increased weapon durability. You also level up and gain more abilities; later in the game you get the imitate zombie walk from Shaun of the Dead and the ability to rib zombie guts out with your bare hands. And because the game is set in a mall, you're able to go into any store and use those items to kill the zombies, or just steal a nice suit to wear. It's fun.

Just don't get the Wii version. It's a very different game than the 360 game and they remove almost everything that made the 360 game good. I don't mean "graphics hurr hurr" but the core game is totally different and awful.

TripleA · « **Reply #18 on:** February 05, 2010, 10:40:30 PM »

Quote from: drew on February 05, 2010, 10:38:18 PM

nfag has a childlike mind and doesnt enjoy the same genres his peers do (zombies)

heres me trying to act surprised

*Yawn* Are you done yet.

Damian79 · « **Reply #19 on:** February 05, 2010, 10:41:01 PM »

Quote from: AdmiralViscen on February 05, 2010, 10:29:14 PM

is this the same distinguished mentally-challenged fellow who poo-pooed Mass Effect 2?

Yup, but i was just trolling, i wouldnt do something like that in the main thread because that would be lame of me, hence why i didnt.

Quote from: Himuro on February 05, 2010, 10:31:58 PM

Get out.

Dead Rising is creative because it mixes an open-world and with time constraints. It's similar to Majora's Mask and BOF: Dragon Quarter, but more evolved. Every action you make will have to be accounted for on the clock, so you have to make every second count. It is a game where failure must be accepted to continue.

THat sounds so sweet, loved Majoras mask and BoF:DQ.

cool breeze · « **Reply #20 on:** February 05, 2010, 10:42:33 PM »

holy shit someone said braid

AVOID! AVOID! AVOID!

do not salt your gaming hobby by playing braid.

drew · « **Reply #21 on:** February 05, 2010, 10:43:16 PM »

yawn

guy with mario avatar doesnt like xbox game

YAWN

TripleA · « **Reply #22 on:** February 05, 2010, 10:44:46 PM »

Quote from: drew on February 05, 2010, 10:43:16 PM

yawn

guy with mario avatar doesnt like xbox game

YAWN

Let me know when you're done behaving like a toddler.

TripleA · « **Reply #23 on:** February 05, 2010, 10:46:14 PM »

Quote from: swaggaz on February 05, 2010, 10:42:33 PM

holy shit someone said braid

AVOID! AVOID! AVOID!

do not salt your gaming hobby by playing braid.

You had a bad experience with it I assume.

drew · « **Reply #24 on:** February 05, 2010, 10:46:31 PM »

taking what i said and trying to flip it back on me (key word trying)

nice defense mechanism youve got going on there

TripleA · « **Reply #25 on:** February 05, 2010, 10:48:07 PM »

Quote from: drew on February 05, 2010, 10:46:31 PM

taking what i said and trying to flip it back on me (key word trying)

nice defense mechanism youve got going on there

What are you talking about?

drew · « **Reply #26 on:** February 05, 2010, 10:51:03 PM »

nfags brain is too underdeveloped to understand what hes even doing

youre just full of surprises!

TripleA · « **Reply #27 on:** February 05, 2010, 10:53:50 PM »

Quote from: drew on February 05, 2010, 10:51:03 PM

nfags brain is too underdeveloped to understand what hes even doing

youre just full of surprises!

Here I am talking about Left 4 Dead and creative games, here you are talking about nfags and defense mechanisms and surprises.

Huh?

bork · « **Reply #28 on:** February 05, 2010, 10:54:30 PM »

Quote from: TripleA on February 05, 2010, 10:44:46 PM

Quote from: drew on February 05, 2010, 10:43:16 PM
yawn

guy with mario avatar doesnt like xbox game

YAWN

Let me know when you're done behaving like a toddler.

This coming from the guy who posted the same stupid picture of a donkey multiple times in the same thread?

TripleA · « **Reply #29 on:** February 05, 2010, 10:58:05 PM »

Quote from: Good Day Sir on February 05, 2010, 10:54:30 PM

Quote from: TripleA on February 05, 2010, 10:44:46 PM
Quote from: drew on February 05, 2010, 10:43:16 PM
yawn

guy with mario avatar doesnt like xbox game

YAWN

Let me know when you're done behaving like a toddler.

This coming from the guy who posted the same stupid picture of a donkey multiple times in the same thread?

It's nice to know I have admirers.

Tell me something, are you sure you didn't miss the point of that pic.

drew · « **Reply #30 on:** February 05, 2010, 11:03:09 PM »

there you go with another defense mechanism

TripleA · « **Reply #31 on:** February 05, 2010, 11:06:05 PM »

Quote from: drew on February 05, 2010, 11:03:09 PM

there you go with another defense mechanism

Are you still talking about defense mechanisms.

drew · « **Reply #32 on:** February 05, 2010, 11:08:40 PM »

ill try to explain this to you, you know when you read words and it makes you feel bad? a defense mechanism is that snarky stretch you make to make to...make it not sting so much

btw, this isnt gaf, this is a small forum, people are going to call you on your bullshit, its not that hard to follow peoples posts, in fact it takes more effort to avoid them, so just because someone calls you out doesnt mean they are "your fan"

Raban · « **Reply #33 on:** February 05, 2010, 11:10:43 PM »

TripleA shitting up another thread again.

TripleA · « **Reply #34 on:** February 05, 2010, 11:12:10 PM »

Quote from: drew on February 05, 2010, 11:08:40 PM

ill try to explain this to you, you know when you read words and it makes you feel bad? a defense mechanism is that snarky stretch you make to make to...make it not sting so much

btw, this isnt gaf, this is a small forum, people are going to call you on your bullshit, its not that hard to follow peoples posts, in fact it takes more effort to avoid them, so just because someone calls you out doesnt mean they are "your fan"

I'm serious when I ask this; What are you talking about?

TripleA · « **Reply #35 on:** February 05, 2010, 11:13:52 PM »

I could have sworn I've seen the name Raban before.

duckman2000 · « **Reply #36 on:** February 05, 2010, 11:14:51 PM »

I sometimes get in funks like that from playing, say, Mirror's Edge, which is such a unique take on everything it does that it makes first person shooters appear uninspired, creatively bankrupt and uninteresting, but it's pretty unfair. Games are evolving like crazy, but most of them don't do it with big swaths like ME, with a majority focusing on making many small adjustments over several versions. The short gestation period between games makes it harder to spot the new ideas and improvements, but it's all there. And like others have said, it's not exactly a unique complaint.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #37 on:** February 05, 2010, 11:15:15 PM »

Quote from: dcharlie on February 05, 2010, 10:54:38 PM

If you can't find a whole slew of games to enjoy this gen then i just don't know where you are looking...

This.

If you can't find something to like with more games coming out on a myriad of platforms than ever before then I'm not sure what to say.

There is probably no one dominant platform like in some of the gens which means you probably have to game on a couple to get your fix but if you can't find games you aren't looking.

iconoclast · « **Reply #38 on:** February 05, 2010, 11:23:50 PM »

Banjo Kazooie Nuts and Bolts

bork · « **Reply #39 on:** February 05, 2010, 11:26:17 PM »

Quote from: Raban on February 05, 2010, 11:10:43 PM

TripleA shitting up another thread again.

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Bebpo · « **Reply #40 on:** February 05, 2010, 11:29:24 PM »

just you. Take a break for a bit.

2009-2010 has better gaming than any years since 2004 and 1998. If you take a break and come back with a fresh outlook you will find plenty of fantastic new titles that are very fun, innovative, and polished.

Beezy · « **Reply #41 on:** February 05, 2010, 11:32:27 PM »

You haven't played Mirror's Edge yet. Don't post in this thread again until you do.

Raban · « **Reply #42 on:** February 05, 2010, 11:36:10 PM »

Quote from: Beezy on February 05, 2010, 11:32:27 PM

Don't post again.

Fixed.

bork · « **Reply #43 on:** February 05, 2010, 11:39:53 PM »

Quote from: Bebpo on February 05, 2010, 11:29:24 PM

just you. Take a break for a bit.

2009-2010 has better gaming than any years since 2004 and 1998. If you take a break and come back with a fresh outlook you will find plenty of fantastic new titles that are very fun, innovative, and polished.

I'm with you on '98, but what was so amazing about '04?

Bebpo · « **Reply #44 on:** February 05, 2010, 11:48:00 PM »

MGS3 (what I still consider the best console game to date)
Half-life 2 (what I still consider the best PC game to date)
Shadow Hearts 2 (my favorite game of all time)
Ninja Gaiden (self-explanatory)
Rallisport Challenge 2 (best arcade racer ever)
Halo 2 (love/hate but it was a big deal)
Mawaru Made in Mario (innovative and fantastic; best in the series still)
Import-wise Dragon Quest V remake on PS2 (one of the best rpgs ever in a great looking and fully orchestrated awesome remake)
And we got the Berserk PS2 game which was awesome fanservice for fans

So yeah, 2004 was insane and up there with 1998. I think 2009 is the 3rd best year in gaming and who knows what 2010 will bring. If you notice, each time it's basically the peak of the gen. 1998 = peak of the PS1 era; developers finally got their shit together, 2004 = peak of the PS2/Xbox era, 2009/maybe 2010 = peak of PS3/X360/Wii era.

*edit, yeah WoW was big too! 2004 was HUGE

Himu · « **Reply #45 on:** February 05, 2010, 11:51:05 PM »

What makes 1998 so special is that you had innovative titles across the board, no matter what platform.

The best gaming year ever.

Whoever says otherwise is an idiot.

MCD · « **Reply #46 on:** February 05, 2010, 11:52:33 PM »

2010 is already the best, bunch of old fegs in this thread.

Bebpo · « **Reply #47 on:** February 05, 2010, 11:56:20 PM »

Quote from: Himuro on February 05, 2010, 11:51:05 PM

What makes 1998 so special is that you had innovative titles across the board, no matter what platform.

The best gaming year ever.

Whoever says otherwise is an idiot.

Sure. I definitely put 1998 as 1st, and 2004 as 2nd. 1998 had Xenogears and MGS; nuff said

Bebpo · « **Reply #48 on:** February 05, 2010, 11:57:04 PM »

Quote from: MCD on February 05, 2010, 11:52:33 PM

2010 is already the best, bunch of old distinguished effete fellows in this thread.

I dunno. I mean Birth by Sleep is REAL GOOD, but dunno

Himu · « **Reply #49 on:** February 05, 2010, 11:58:43 PM »

2001 > 2004

MCD · « **Reply #50 on:** February 06, 2010, 12:00:43 AM »

bebpo hon, i think we need to talk.

Bebpo · « **Reply #51 on:** February 06, 2010, 12:01:40 AM »

Quote from: MCD on February 06, 2010, 12:00:43 AM

bebpo hon, i think we need to talk.

I don't know what this Mass Effect 2 game is that you are talking about until Steam puts it on sale

Himu · « **Reply #52 on:** February 06, 2010, 12:15:43 AM »

My favorite years are 1992, 1994, 1997, 1998, 2000, 2001, and 2004.

1998:

Final Fantasy Tactics (PS)
Tekken 3 (PS)
Parasite Eve (PS)
StarCraft (Win)
Panzer Dragoon Saga (Sat)
Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six (Win)
Spyro the Dragon (PS)
Fallout 2 (Win)
Pokémon Red and Blue (GB)
Xenogears (PS)
Metal Gear Solid (PS)
Grim Fandango (Win)
Half-Life (Win)
The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time (N64)
Sid Meier's Alpha Centauri (Win)
Brave Fencer Musashi (PS)
Daytona USA 2 (arc)
Devil Dice (PS)
Heart of Darkness (PS)
MediEvil (PS)
No One Can Stop Mr. Domino! (PS)
Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus (PS, PC)
R-Type Delta (PS)
Ridge Racer 4 (PS)
Radiant Silvergun (SAT)
RayCrysis (ARC)
Soul Calibur (ARC)
Tenchu (PS)

drew · « **Reply #53 on:** February 06, 2010, 12:55:09 AM »

im pleasantly surprised that nobody mentioned 2007

Raban · « **Reply #54 on:** February 06, 2010, 01:50:08 AM »

Quote from: drew on February 06, 2010, 12:55:09 AM

im pleasantly surprised that nobody mentioned 2007

More popular year for movies than games I'd think.

Bebpo · « **Reply #55 on:** February 06, 2010, 01:56:12 AM »

Quote from: Himuro on February 06, 2010, 12:15:43 AM

My favorite years are 1992, 1994, 1997, 1998, 2000, 2001, and 2004.

1998:

Final Fantasy Tactics (PS)
Tekken 3 (PS)
Parasite Eve (PS)
StarCraft (Win)
Panzer Dragoon Saga (Sat)
Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six (Win)
Spyro the Dragon (PS)
Fallout 2 (Win)
Pokémon Red and Blue (GB)
Xenogears (PS)
Metal Gear Solid (PS)
Grim Fandango (Win)
Half-Life (Win)
The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time (N64)
Sid Meier's Alpha Centauri (Win)
Brave Fencer Musashi (PS)
Daytona USA 2 (arc)
Devil Dice (PS)
Heart of Darkness (PS)
MediEvil (PS)
No One Can Stop Mr. Domino! (PS)
Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus (PS, PC)
R-Type Delta (PS)
Ridge Racer 4 (PS)
Radiant Silvergun (SAT)
RayCrysis (ARC)
Soul Calibur (ARC)
Tenchu (PS)

How does Alpha Centuari hold up? It's the only thing on that list I never tried besides Pokemon which I have no interest in ever playing.

Howard Alan Treesong · « **Reply #56 on:** February 06, 2010, 02:03:18 AM »

1998 is def. the best gaming year of all time. I mean, Half-Life, Metal Gear Solid, Ocarina of Time and Xenogears all came out in the same MONTH. Love em or hate em, those are games people still talk about twelve years later.

2001 was my second favorite year - Phantasy Star Online, Final Fantasy X, ICO, Silent Hill 2, Gitaroo Man, Max Payne, Devil May Cry, Metal Gear Solid 2.

Raban · « **Reply #57 on:** February 06, 2010, 02:05:08 AM »

Quote from: Synthesizer Patel on February 06, 2010, 02:03:18 AM

1998 is def. the best gaming year of all time. I mean, Half-Life, Metal Gear Solid, Ocarina of Time and Xenogears all came out in the same MONTH. Love em or hate em, those are games people still talk about twelve years later.

2001 was my second favorite year - Phantasy Star Online, Final Fantasy X, ICO, Silent Hill 2, Gitaroo Man, Max Payne, Devil May Cry, Metal Gear Solid 2.

Some of my favorite games there.

I've always wanted to play Xenogears, from what I understand it's one of the most noteworthy JRPGs, but it's impossible to find, so that's never happening.

Himu · « **Reply #58 on:** February 06, 2010, 02:07:43 AM »

Quote from: Synthesizer Patel on February 06, 2010, 02:03:18 AM

1998 is def. the best gaming year of all time. I mean, Half-Life, Metal Gear Solid, Ocarina of Time and Xenogears all came out in the same MONTH. Love em or hate em, those are games people still talk about twelve years later.

2001 was my second favorite year - Phantasy Star Online, Final Fantasy X, ICO, Silent Hill 2, Gitaroo Man, Max Payne, Devil May Cry, Metal Gear Solid 2.

Didn't SSX Tricky come out in 2001 as well?

Gosh 2001 is my second favorite, easily.

cool breeze · « **Reply #59 on:** February 06, 2010, 02:08:13 AM »

Himuro's list of 1998 leaves off a bunch of good games (while including stuff like Spyro) I'm checking wiki and it's pretty amazing how many good games came out then.

Resident Evil 2
Baldur's Gate 1
Thief 1
Shogo
TRIBES (

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2001 was my second favorite year - Phantasy Star Online, Final Fantasy X, ICO, Silent Hill 2, Gitaroo Man, Max Payne, Devil May Cry, Metal Gear Solid 2.

you

for including Gitaroo Man

personally I have a hard time ranking this stuff. I know 1998 is the best and other years hover around after that.

I also lie and consider Symphony of the Night to be a 1998 game to make it seem even more awesome.

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Author Topic: Is gaming becoming stagnant or am i just getting jaded?(some thoughts) (Read 18131 times)