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Espgaluda II thread of region free.
« on: February 15, 2010, 02:27:28 PM »
http://kotaku.com/5471899/if-you-want-to-play-espgaluda-ii-read-this-post

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"The Limited Edition of EspGaluda II will be region-locked to Japan because we didn't have enough time to get the application in before pressing," says Cave producer Makoto Asada. "However, we were able to make the standard edition region-free in to show our appreciation for the support we have from overseas fans."

So to review: If you do not have a Japanese Xbox 360 and want to play EspGaluda II, then get the Standard Edition. If you do have a Japanese Xbox 360, get whichever edition you like.

:bow KOTAKU :bow2

It's available on Feb 25, by the way.

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Re: Espgaluda II thread of region free.
« Reply #1 on: February 15, 2010, 02:42:35 PM »
How many japan only shooters on the 360 are region free now and how much do they usually sell for?

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« Reply #2 on: February 15, 2010, 02:52:45 PM »
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« Reply #3 on: February 15, 2010, 02:56:24 PM »
How many japan only shooters on the 360 are region free now and how much do they usually sell for?

Only Mushihime-sama Futari 1.5 and now Espgaluda II are region free. Both will run you $70+ (on play-asia and ncsx, the two best sites for importing) unless you can find a deal somewhere. There might be a few people around who regret importing Mushihime, so you might be able to find one on the cheap (relatively speaking).
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« Reply #4 on: February 15, 2010, 03:06:02 PM »
Mushihime doesn't seem to be dropping at all...I've been checking periodically.  They've been through a second printing already and now ncsx says they're waiting on more.  The LE is up to about $160-$170 on ebay and even a used copy is around $70 w/out shipping. 

I'm thinking of getting both with my refund money, before these games get fucking holy shit expensive, as they tend to do.  On the other hand, if Death Smiles does well in the U.S. and they come out here, that'll be $150 down the drain.

oh and the best deal on Mushihime right now is 8% bing cashback on ebay.  Not much, but it's something.


as for ESPgaluda 2, the gaf thread makes it seem not really confirmed that it's region free.  I'll wait until the ncsxshop pre-order goes up, I guess.

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« Reply #5 on: February 15, 2010, 03:13:54 PM »
It's only natural to be skeptical of Kotaku, since... well, it's Kotaku. But they are the ones who broke Mushi's region-freeness, and most importantly, Brian Ashcraft seems to be very into Cave and shooting games. So I'm very confident it will indeed be region free. I mean, they are directly quoting Makoto Asada after all.

I've seen Mushi pop up on occasion in the GAF buy/sell/trade thread, so you might be able to pick it up from there.
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« Reply #6 on: February 15, 2010, 03:21:34 PM »
Is there any hope this gets picked up domestically, what with Deathsmiles getting picked up and all?
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« Reply #7 on: February 15, 2010, 03:28:18 PM »
If Death Smiles does well they'll probably try to get this out overseas. Cave seems to want to expand into western markets, so I think it has a decent shot.
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« Reply #8 on: February 15, 2010, 03:35:12 PM »
It's only natural to be skeptical of Kotaku, since... well, it's Kotaku. But they are the ones who broke Mushi's region-freeness, and most importantly, Brian Ashcraft seems to be very into Cave and shooting games. So I'm very confident it will indeed be region free. I mean, they are directly quoting Makoto Asada after all.

I've seen Mushi pop up on occasion in the GAF buy/sell/trade thread, so you might be able to pick it up from there.

not after having all my accounts permabanned  :'(   I forgot all about the gaf BST, oh well. 

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Is there any hope this gets picked up domestically, what with Deathsmiles getting picked up and all?


I just hope they don't have any fucktarded expectations for the game here.  It should either be a super-limited release with a higher price or a $19.99 release that floods the front lane at every bestbuy.  You never know with these Japanese businesses...they can be surprisingly out of touch.   

See:  the Senko No Ronde/Wartech  disas-uh-tuh.  That game should have had a 1000 copies in limited release that came with pendants, sun-dials, cloth maps, an OST, and a glossy-ass case with an upskirt panty shot of a 12 year old priced at $100 a piece.   Instead, they tried to trick people with this shit:


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« Reply #9 on: February 15, 2010, 04:29:39 PM »
Uh, Deathsmiles is being released by a USA company in the America

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« Reply #10 on: February 15, 2010, 04:43:34 PM »
Right, and if it does well there's hope to get more Cave releases in the future. Death Smiles will be Cave's first game in the US, so they will surely be keeping an eye on it.

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Makota Asada: "Mushihime-sama Futari was our first region-free game and we were happy enough with the response to finalize our plans for the US release of Deathsmiles."

"We are already thinking worldwide in the sense of how we design our games, and we hope that the US version of Deathsmiles does well enough for us to put out more games around the world."
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« Reply #11 on: February 15, 2010, 05:27:33 PM »
Uh, Deathsmiles is being released by a USA company in the America

it's also made by a company that has been conspicuously absent from the US market, is notoriously strict with its releases, and probably has its own sales expectations for how the game should perform. 

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« Reply #12 on: February 15, 2010, 05:40:32 PM »
:omg

Espgaluda might be my favorite shooter of all time.

Scoring systems :rock

you like it even more than Gradius V?!  :o
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« Reply #13 on: February 15, 2010, 05:52:09 PM »
why cant they make raiden region free :(
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« Reply #14 on: February 15, 2010, 07:46:49 PM »
:omg

Espgaluda might be my favorite shooter of all time.

Scoring systems :rock

you like it even more than Gradius V?!  :o

My name is not Cohen, but definitely.  Espgaluda is my favorite Cave shmup and I've had more fun with the good Cave shmups than any other shmup although Raiden Fighters Aces comes VERY CLOSE.

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« Reply #15 on: February 15, 2010, 08:06:26 PM »
Raiden Aces is fun but the scoring system in RF Jet has nearly driven me insane. I've come SO CLOSE to the 100 million achievement several times, but I can never get it. I HATE having to memorize the locations of hidden fairies and micluses on every level, and then I hate having to collect EVERY single medal that falls, because if you miss one they reset back to a low value. Just thinking about it annoys me. >:(

My biggest complaint with those games is the visibility issues though. I dunno if it's just me, but it's very easy to lose track of the bullets since they're small and kinda blend in with the background on some stages. Not like the big pink Cave bullets. Didn't have a problem with it in Raiden IV either.
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« Reply #16 on: February 15, 2010, 08:12:55 PM »
Agree 100%

My favorite thing about Cave are their BIG PINK BUBBLES.  Like Ibara normal mode I can't play.  Too many wtf deaths.  But the pink mode I can.  I wish every shmup used bright colored bullets.

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« Reply #17 on: February 15, 2010, 10:03:36 PM »
If you're looking for a Cave game to import, get Mushi first.  Espgaluda 2 is a fantastic game, but it's VERY difficult, and substantially harder than the first game.  I wouldn't recommend it to beginners, but it's definitely worth picking up when you get more used to the genre.

most importantly, Brian Ashcraft seems to be very into Cave and shooting games. So I'm very confident it will indeed be region free. I mean, they are directly quoting Makoto Asada after all.

No no no, do not believe this at all.  Ashcraft pretends to be a lover of obscure Japanese games, but his articles are almost always full of misinformation and would give the impression that he's never actually played them.  He does it to get "hardcore cred" on his site.

Ashcraft is not known in any shooting game community, has no accomplishments, and is not very good at them at all.  The only way he's known at all in the scene here is when he requests an "exclusive interview" with some of the better players, all for his beloved site.  You'll never see him at any major events, location tests, tournaments, etc.  People who have witnessed him playing have said that he plays at an extremely basic level.  Now, there's absolutely nothing wrong with liking the genre and not being very good at them, but he tries his hardest to lead people into knowing what he's talking about.

Best example I can give is when Otomedius first came out here, Ashcraft wrote a ton of articles about the game and how "crazy" it is, look at dem girls!  At TGS later that year, he played the 360 port on display and said something like he was glad to finally get a chance to play the game.  The game had been out in arcades for the better part of the year, but despite writing plenty of articles about it, he never found it worth his time to actually play the damn game before the port was out.  Bloody phony.  The shit he writes about other games that he supposedly loves are just as bad (his posts about iDOLM@STER-related things are guaranteed to have inaccuracies).

Unfortunately, the people who do know what they're talking about usually stay within their community, so the greater masses just read Kotaku and believe everything.  It's because of sites like them that there's so much misinformation present in the Japanese games scene.
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« Reply #18 on: February 15, 2010, 10:34:54 PM »
 :( I almost never read Kotaku, but I noticed he covers most of the shooter posts over there so I figured he was pretty into it. Ah well, as long as he keeps getting interviews with Cave that's all I really care about.
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« Reply #19 on: February 15, 2010, 10:35:30 PM »
I don't trust a single quote/word on Kotaku.  So I'll believe it when I am playing EspII on my US X360.

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« Reply #20 on: February 15, 2010, 10:36:53 PM »
If you're looking for a Cave game to import, get Mushi first.  Espgaluda 2 is a fantastic game, but it's VERY difficult, and substantially harder than the first game.  I wouldn't recommend it to beginners, but it's definitely worth picking up when you get more used to the genre.

thanks for the heads up.  I'll get mushihime, then see how I feel about shmups.  as it is, I love them, but never sink the time in to get really good. 

and yeah, still waiting for definite confirmation on the region-freeness

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« Reply #21 on: February 15, 2010, 10:37:14 PM »
They can't fake an email using direct quotes from Asada man. They just can't.

I hope. :gloomy

They were the first to mention a possible Death Smiles US release and the whole Mushi Futari deal. I still have faith!
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« Reply #22 on: February 15, 2010, 10:38:05 PM »
They can't fake an email using direct quotes from Asada man. They just can't.

I hope. :gloomy

it's just that they also said that it wasn't region free.  so we have 2 conflicting quotes...

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« Reply #23 on: February 15, 2010, 10:51:11 PM »
Well, the LE and SE are two separate pressings if Mushi Futari is anything to go by. The LE had Reko on the disc and the SE has Palm... Not a huge difference but it's possible they made the LEs early and then decided at the last minute to make the SEs region free.
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« Reply #24 on: February 15, 2010, 10:51:19 PM »
They can't fake an email using direct quotes from Asada man. They just can't.

I hope. :gloomy

They were the first to mention a possible Death Smiles US release and the whole Mushi Futari deal. I still have faith!

Actually, both the Deathsmiles USA release and region free Mushi news originated from the STG community, Kotaku just stole it (hell, I think the DS thing was known about for several weeks before it broke out).  Kotaku's original content was from an interview in TGS, and they reported about an upcoming XBLA port of Mushi Mushi Pork, which oddly enough has never been mentioned again and I think has actually been removed from their site from what I've heard.

I'd wait for Cave themselves to confirm the game going region-free, or at least wait for confirmations from other people before ordering it.  The Cave people are pretty chill and actually do respond to Emails and fan requests, so it wouldn't be unusual for Ashcraft to get such a message if he sent them some questions, it's just strange considering how everything Cave themselves recently said would point towards the game being locked (although, they've also somewhat recently acknowledged a petition that the community sent them to keep games region-free).

The other possibility is that preorders have been lower than expected, and they want to open the game up in order to increase export sales.

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« Reply #25 on: February 15, 2010, 11:18:24 PM »
Really? Did it originate on shmups or cave-stg or somewhere else? I don't look over those sites often, maybe a few times a month, but the first I heard of it was from Kotaku's TGS interview with Asada. Just looking over the Mushi thread on cave-stg it seems the news originated from the Kotaku interview, so I dunno any more.

I still have my ncsx pre-order up and I'm sticking with it. If for some reason it's not region free I'll be the first to send Ashcraft the bill.
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« Reply #26 on: February 16, 2010, 01:24:29 AM »
Really? Did it originate on shmups or cave-stg or somewhere else? I don't look over those sites often, maybe a few times a month, but the first I heard of it was from Kotaku's TGS interview with Asada. Just looking over the Mushi thread on cave-stg it seems the news originated from the Kotaku interview, so I dunno any more.

I still have my ncsx pre-order up and I'm sticking with it. If for some reason it's not region free I'll be the first to send Ashcraft the bill.

It was talked about on both sites, although I know that they definitely originated from CAVESTG.  It wasn't really a confirmation, more like "well, you know, Cave is really interested in expanding their audience", followed up by "they're considering a test of making an upcoming title region free" (which was obviously Mushi), and "they mentioned something about Deathsmiles, I can't say what it is, but I would hold off on buying a J360 until you hear it!"  Essentially, a lot of news comes from that, but it isn't directly said, although anyone who follows the scene can easily figure out what they're saying.  I guess since Kotaku and the like aren't actually part of the community, their breaking news is usually old.

I'd wait for Cave themselves to confirm the game going region-free, or at least wait for confirmations from other people before ordering it.

We have this info directly from someone who works at Cave. Limited Edition = not region free. Regular Edition = region free.
I'd imagine what went down is this - if they make all versions region free, there's very little incentive for a foreign publisher to pick up the license. If they keep the ltd ed locked, a third party can license it, and make profit off a local ltd ed.

That doesn't make any sense at all, it's not like the same LEs will be released in both regions (I doubt most Americans care about the faceplate).  I think that the LEs are already spoken for and produced, but the standards haven't met preorder expectations and thus they can change that batch easier (along with future reprints, which LEs usually don't get).  It just seems like an odd decision to make at the last moment, and giving the information to Kotaku of all places instead of posting it on the blog like normal.  Oh well, if it's true, then I won't exactly be complaining!

Either way, I'm looking forward to playing my CAVE SPECIAL LIMITED EDITION soon!  Their LE sucks compared to the Mushi one though, I don't care so much about phone cards...

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« Reply #27 on: February 16, 2010, 11:25:10 AM »
Region free confirmed 8)

Quote from: Zero Gunner @ shmups
Hi Steven, the Kotaku article is accurate. We asked one of our main distributors to corroborate the information and they confirmed the region-free status of the regular edition of ESPGaluda II.

There was some confusion at first because Cave initially told them that it would be region-locked but they were referring to the Limited Edition. They later made the distinction between the two versions of the game.

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« Reply #28 on: February 16, 2010, 11:36:34 AM »
Region free confirmed 8)

Quote from: Zero Gunner @ shmups
Hi Steven, the Kotaku article is accurate. We asked one of our main distributors to corroborate the information and they confirmed the region-free status of the regular edition of ESPGaluda II.

There was some confusion at first because Cave initially told them that it would be region-locked but they were referring to the Limited Edition. They later made the distinction between the two versions of the game.

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Sweeeet.  Do you have a link to their pre-order page for the game?  I can't find it anywhere on their site.

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« Reply #29 on: February 16, 2010, 11:43:14 AM »
http://www.shopncsx.com/espgaludaiiblacklabelregularedition.aspx

Slightly more expensive than play-asia (about $6 more I think), but PA is sloooooooooooooooow.
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« Reply #30 on: February 16, 2010, 11:48:59 AM »
I didn't realize they had a newer site...I've always gone to ncsxshop instead of shopncsx.  yeah, P-A takes forever.  When I'm already spending this much on a game, i don't mind a few bucks more for faster shipping. 

gonna order mushihime futanari first...if that really grabs my attention, I'll go for ESPgaluda.

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« Reply #31 on: February 18, 2010, 06:18:32 AM »
http://cave-game.cocolog-nifty.com/blog/2010/02/thank-you.html

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Thank you for the warm messages from all over the world.
Espgaluda II Black Label Normal Edition is region free.
But I'm afraid new games after Espgaluda II Black Label won't be region free.
I assure you that Espgaluda II Black Label Normal Edition will be the last region free game for the time being.

Cave

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Well, there you go.  Enjoy it while it lasts!

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« Reply #32 on: February 18, 2010, 09:46:24 AM »
http://www.shopncsx.com/espgaludaiiblacklabelregularedition.aspx

Slightly more expensive than play-asia (about $6 more I think), but PA is sloooooooooooooooow.

I wish NCSX had a walk-in store :( I buy from them since they're pretty close to where I live, so shipping is FAST.
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« Reply #33 on: February 18, 2010, 11:36:26 AM »
http://cave-game.cocolog-nifty.com/blog/2010/02/thank-you.html

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Thank you for the warm messages from all over the world.
Espgaluda II Black Label Normal Edition is region free.
But I'm afraid new games after Espgaluda II Black Label won't be region free.
I assure you that Espgaluda II Black Label Normal Edition will be the last region free game for the time being.

Cave

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Well, there you go.  Enjoy it while it lasts!

Stupid US licensing

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« Reply #34 on: February 18, 2010, 11:53:30 AM »
Gonna buy this SO HARD
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« Reply #35 on: February 18, 2010, 12:56:43 PM »
Oh well, I'm glad we got Mushi and Galuda 2. As long as we get their future games I can wait.
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« Reply #36 on: February 21, 2010, 12:58:55 AM »
Thought I'd bump this to mention the latest episode (?) of Play x Play on the Japanese marketplace is up featuring Espgaluda 2. Asada is on it and he's rocking a FABULOUS Jin Kazama style haircut. :lol
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« Reply #37 on: February 21, 2010, 01:02:31 AM »
http://cave-game.cocolog-nifty.com/blog/2010/02/thank-you.html

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Thank you for the warm messages from all over the world.
Espgaluda II Black Label Normal Edition is region free.
But I'm afraid new games after Espgaluda II Black Label won't be region free.
I assure you that Espgaluda II Black Label Normal Edition will be the last region free game for the time being.

Cave

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Well, there you go.  Enjoy it while it lasts!

ha ha ha ha supporting developers. glad this worked out for you guys!
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« Reply #38 on: February 21, 2010, 01:49:20 AM »
It did in a roundabout way though (Death Smiles getting a US release).

I just hope someone picks up the Dodonpachi Dai Ou Jou 360 port (AFTER it's been patched, which apparently should be very soon). If it weren't such a mess I probably would have got a Japanese 360 a while ago to be honest. Give me DOJ, Ketsui, Death Smiles 2 and the rest of Cave's future releases and I can live without the rest of the Japanese exclusives.

Here's a link to the video I mentioned earlier: http://dic.nicovideo.jp/v/sm9779676

Amazing haircut.
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« Reply #39 on: February 21, 2010, 07:22:18 PM »
That cave matsuri was a complete piece of shit, it took them like an hour to fix their severs, and by the time they got it done, all of the good shit was sold out.  I really wanted that Ketsui cap, kept reloading the site nonstop, eventually it worked but they told me it was sold out.  Went back, removed it from my order, then they told me that some other shit I wanted sold out in those few seconds.  Ah well...I should be used to it by now since every one of their shopping events gets hammered, but this is the first time that I wasn't able to buy everything I wanted, and I don't remember if any previous event was this bad.

Hey DCharlie, are you going to the 360 shooting festival this weekend?  I'll probably pop in, although I'm sure the lines to play the good stuff are gonna be outrageous, heh.


I just hope someone picks up the Dodonpachi Dai Ou Jou 360 port (AFTER it's been patched, which apparently should be very soon). If it weren't such a mess I probably would have got a Japanese 360 a while ago to be honest.

The DOJ port isn't perfect, but in all honesty, unless you're very good at the game and can credit it effortlessly (along with having extensive knowledge of the original versions of the game), you won't notice any problems with it.  The only real noticeable issues are the load times and some interface quirks, which don't affect the actual gameplay.  Western media really blew it out of proportion (shocking), I'll bet you any amount of money that no western "journalist" that reported on the problems has any idea of what they actually are.

Besides, being able to completely destroy the game and full-chain as Piper is so satisfying!
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« Reply #40 on: February 21, 2010, 07:35:50 PM »
The thing that really kills me about the DOJ port is the load times. I constantly restart in a shooter if I die in the first two or three stages and I'm not sure I can put up with all the loading in that game. And besides, I already have the PS2 port so I'm not in too big of a rush to get it on 360, Black Label or not.

Why can't getting around the region coding on 360 be as easy as it was on PS2 :'(
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« Reply #41 on: February 21, 2010, 07:56:17 PM »
The DOJ loadtimes only are an issue with the main menu, where you choose which version of the game you want to play.  Once you get into the game, they're pretty fast, comparable with the PS2 port.  You can do restarts within the game with no issue.

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« Reply #42 on: February 25, 2010, 05:32:51 AM »
Got it!

Man, this game looks bloody beautiful in HD.

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« Reply #43 on: February 25, 2010, 09:17:30 AM »
Mushi looks really nice in HD as well. I was surprised by how big the difference was between HD graphics and the regular arcade graphics. Though for some reason arcade mode and xbox 360 mode have separate leaderboards in Mushi - I assume it's the same in Galuda 2 (and Death Smiles)?

Hopefully NCSX will be shipping my copy today.
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