Author Topic: The only sport that matters: MLB 2010 Thread (Read 42956 times)

CajoleJuice · « **Reply #120 on:** March 22, 2010, 12:38:24 AM »

I think Fangraphs might be on the money when they say the Astros are currently the worst organization in baseball. I mean, at least the Royals have Greinke...

Himu · « **Reply #121 on:** March 22, 2010, 12:42:37 AM »

Quote from: The Fake Shemp on March 22, 2010, 12:33:10 AM

Tejada is pretty crappy now, I think replacing his bat is the least of the Astros' worries. That said, they've always seemed like a team that held together with super glue and Lance Berkman for like the past ten years, so I don't know how they manage to stay relevant but God bless 'em.

Well, there's interest in selling them.

I just think they need new management. People who are willing to build a team full of young guys.

And I know Tejada's not that great now, but he was the best hitter on the 'Stros.

The Fake Shemp · « **Reply #122 on:** March 22, 2010, 12:46:12 AM »

Quote from: CajoleJuice on March 22, 2010, 12:38:24 AM

I think Fangraphs might be on the money when they say the Astros are currently the worst organization in baseball. I mean, at least the Royals have Greinke...

And Brian Bannister! And, uh... Gil Meche!

I like reading all the Nationals blog comments on the Washington Post, where the fans get enraged about the Lerners not opening up the pocket books for Jermaine Dye, Ben Sheets, etc. It's like some weird crossover effect where they think the "overpaying for washed-up veterans that can't help you if your core team is not very good" tactic from Dan Snyder is the way to go.

I understand Washington fans are a little restless, but in my opinion, the blame should be put on Omar Minaya - not the owners and front-office that are trying to clean up Minaya and Bowden's mess.

CajoleJuice · « **Reply #123 on:** March 22, 2010, 12:51:44 AM »

Yeah, makes sense that it takes an organization 6 years to recover from Minaya. $:-\$

The Fake Shemp · « **Reply #124 on:** March 22, 2010, 12:57:25 AM »

Players traded away from the Expos' farm system prior to moving to D.C. courtesy of Omar Minaya:

Jason Bay (2004 Rookie of the Year, All-Star in 2005, 2006, & 2009, Top 25 in MVP Voting 2005 & 2006)
Cliff Lee (2008 AL Cy Young Award, All-Star in 2008, Top 25 in MVP Voting 2008, 4th in AL Cy Young Voting 2005)
Grady Sizemore (All-Star in 2006, 2007, & 2008, Gold Glove in 2007 & 2008, Silver Slugger in 2008, Top 25 in MVP Voting 2005-2008)
Brandon Phillips (Gold Glove in 2008, Top 25 in MVP Voting 2007)
Chris Young (2007 All-Star)

... Wow, thanks a lot Omar! Remember back in 2002 and 2003 when he traded all those young players for Bartolo Colon and Cliff Floyd in some stupid run for the pennant?

Basically, Minaya mortgaged the entire future of the organization for almost a decade.

Then MLB hired Bowden and he made things significantly worse.

CajoleJuice · « **Reply #125 on:** March 22, 2010, 01:00:11 AM »

Kazmir for Victor Zambrano was the Colon deal on a smaller scale. I just don't know how highly-touted Lee, Sizemore, and Phillips were at the time of that deal, while Kazmir was the gem of the Mets' system.

Edit: you know what, I always forget Minaya wasn't the one responsible for that Kazmir trade.

The Fake Shemp · « **Reply #126 on:** March 22, 2010, 01:02:19 AM »

It doesn't matter how valued they were, he traded away the entire farm system. ALL OF IT.

I think when the Nationals finally arrived in D.C., the farm system was made up 40-year-olds and that fat guy that The Rookie is based on.

CajoleJuice · « **Reply #127 on:** March 22, 2010, 01:05:14 AM »

He obviously thought they were gonna get contracted!

The Fake Shemp · « **Reply #128 on:** March 22, 2010, 01:06:50 AM »

Also, Sizemore, Lee and Phillips were all highly regarded at the time, and were given to Cleveland in ONE TRADE for BARTOLO COLON.

Yes, for BARTOLO COLON.

Also traded away Carl Pavano and Guillermo Mota, apparently.

... Point is, you could make a half-way decent roster of all the players Minaya traded away. Totally ridiculous.

CajoleJuice · « **Reply #129 on:** March 22, 2010, 01:10:17 AM »

You're ignoring his invaluable ability to overpay for Hispanic players!

The Fake Shemp · « **Reply #130 on:** March 22, 2010, 01:16:30 AM »

Funny, considering he was trading for Colon, El Duque, etc.

CajoleJuice · « **Reply #131 on:** March 22, 2010, 01:19:07 AM »

You're right. Before he had the Wilpons' money to waste like it was going to Madoff, he had to satiate his hunger for Latin blood with prospects.

Human Snorenado · « **Reply #132 on:** March 23, 2010, 02:16:25 PM »

Braves and Mutts on ESPN today, Tommy Hanson vs. Oliver "No Game" Perez. Braves already up 1-0.

Human Snorenado · « **Reply #133 on:** March 23, 2010, 03:44:51 PM »

Braves winning 3-2. Sadly, Heyward didn't start since Perez is "a tough lefty" or some such bullshit. Hopefully he comes into the game soon. Also, I forgot how awful Joe Morgan was/is. Thanks for the reminder!

Also, Francoeur just doubled Chipper off of first on a flyball. FFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUU

CajoleJuice · « **Reply #134 on:** March 23, 2010, 03:46:29 PM »

THE NATURAL

P.S. You see my post about the gaffer that created an ESPN auction league? I don't know if I feel like bothering creating an account, do you?

Human Snorenado · « **Reply #135 on:** March 23, 2010, 04:03:02 PM »

I didn't feel like bothering to reply. I win the lazy contest!

CajoleJuice · « **Reply #136 on:** March 23, 2010, 04:03:26 PM »

Damn, owned

Himu · « **Reply #137 on:** March 23, 2010, 04:04:13 PM »

Braves vs Mutts on ESPN!

pollo · « **Reply #138 on:** March 23, 2010, 05:03:06 PM »

i keep refreshing the roto players page to see when Heyward's available to be picked up.

Human Snorenado · « **Reply #139 on:** March 23, 2010, 05:05:47 PM »

Quote from: pollo on March 23, 2010, 05:03:06 PM

i keep refreshing the roto players page to see when Heyward's available to be picked up.

KEEP YOUR HANDS OFF, YOU VULTURE

The Fake Shemp · « **Reply #140 on:** March 24, 2010, 02:59:40 PM »

CajoleJuice's boyhood hero at it again.

CajoleJuice · « **Reply #141 on:** March 24, 2010, 03:08:57 PM »

Jesus Christ. :\

Once a Met, always a Met. :'(

pollo · « **Reply #142 on:** March 24, 2010, 03:11:13 PM »

he was my boyhood hero.

Also Yahoo is distinguished mentally-challenged, add Heyward already.

The Fake Shemp · « **Reply #143 on:** March 24, 2010, 03:11:59 PM »

The sad thing is, he could have probably been one the greatest pitchers in the game had he not been such a colossal fuck up. I mean, it's amazing to think that he's only in his forties. He could have been pitching all last decade. Almost all his decent stats are prior to the '90s. He wasted two decades.

Human Snorenado · « **Reply #144 on:** March 24, 2010, 03:45:45 PM »

Hudson just got done owning the Phils to the tune of about 3 inconsequential hits over six innings, and no runs. Meanwhile, McCannimal dropped two bombs on JA Happ.

The Fake Shemp · « **Reply #145 on:** March 24, 2010, 03:46:32 PM »

I find it kind of weird that the only division any of us care about is the NL East

Human Snorenado · « **Reply #146 on:** March 24, 2010, 03:48:22 PM »

And that my team is the only one out of all our rooting interests with a chance to do something this year.

CajoleJuice · « **Reply #147 on:** March 24, 2010, 03:48:41 PM »

pollo is a Yankee fan

Himu · « **Reply #148 on:** March 24, 2010, 03:49:36 PM »

The Lastros

Human Snorenado · « **Reply #149 on:** March 24, 2010, 03:54:59 PM »

Quote from: CajoleJuice on March 24, 2010, 03:48:41 PM

pollo is a Yankee fan

I thought everyone had his Heyward thieving ass on ignore.

Human Snorenado · « **Reply #150 on:** March 24, 2010, 03:57:06 PM »

Also- while Joe Morgan is terrible, I find myself yearning for his insightful analysis after having listened to Ravech, Kruk and Bobby V this game. Valentine seriously sounds deranged.

The Fake Shemp · « **Reply #151 on:** March 24, 2010, 04:30:14 PM »

Again, it still sounds like the only division any of us care about is the NL East. Do Yankees fans even like baseball

Human Snorenado · « **Reply #152 on:** March 24, 2010, 04:33:18 PM »

Well, TA is an Indians fan, dm is a Mariners fan, pollo likes the Kid Rapists, and Himu thinks he's an Asstros fan. But the three of us that post the most definitely have an NL East centric view of things. I'll enjoy finishing in front of both of your teams this year.

Mr. Gundam · « **Reply #153 on:** March 24, 2010, 04:47:37 PM »

Quote from: The Fake Shemp on March 24, 2010, 04:30:14 PM

Again, it still sounds like the only division any of us care about is the NL East. Do Yankees fans even like baseball

Mariners, baby. I haven't been posting because:

1) I don't do fantasy sports.
2) The season hasn't started.
3) The lack of other AL West fans makes it difficult for my posts to have much traction.

CajoleJuice · « **Reply #154 on:** March 24, 2010, 04:49:42 PM »

Phillies 92-70
Braves 85-77
Marlins 78-84
Mets 78-84
Nationals 73-89

The Fake Shemp · « **Reply #155 on:** March 24, 2010, 04:55:39 PM »

Mets are going to be in the cellar when we call up Strasburg and Storen, and trade off Guzman so Desmond can take shortstop full-time.

CajoleJuice · « **Reply #156 on:** March 24, 2010, 04:57:47 PM »

When do you think those two get called up?

Mr. Gundam · « **Reply #157 on:** March 24, 2010, 05:04:29 PM »

Quote from: CajoleJuice on March 24, 2010, 04:49:42 PM

Phillies 92-70
Braves 85-77
Marlins 78-84
Mets 78-84
Nationals 73-89

That's an awfully generous season prediction for the Nats.

Human Snorenado · « **Reply #158 on:** March 24, 2010, 05:11:53 PM »

Don't worry, I know the real deal.

Braves 142-20
Phillies 80-82
Marlins 72-90
Nationals 68-94
Mets 1-151 (10 games away from the end of the season they'll get contracted, putting us all out of our longstanding misery)

CajoleJuice · « **Reply #159 on:** March 24, 2010, 05:15:18 PM »

Quote from: Mr. Gundam on March 24, 2010, 05:04:29 PM

Quote from: CajoleJuice on March 24, 2010, 04:49:42 PM
Phillies 92-70
Braves 85-77
Marlins 78-84
Mets 78-84
Nationals 73-89

That's an awfully generous season prediction for the Nats.

Both BP and CHONE actually have them winning 74 using the depth chart method.

http://baseballprospectus.com/fantasy/dc/
http://www.baseballprojection.com/2010/standings2010.htm

Human Snorenado · « **Reply #160 on:** March 24, 2010, 05:21:55 PM »

Over/under for days on DL for Johan Santana after his elbow 'asplodes: 120

Over/under for how long it takes Strasburg's arm to fall off in minors: 3 starts

CajoleJuice · « **Reply #161 on:** March 24, 2010, 05:28:24 PM »

I like how you keep joking about Santana when you have Hudson on your staff.

pollo · « **Reply #162 on:** March 24, 2010, 05:37:14 PM »

Braves don't have Ollie, Big Game Pelf, Maine and Niese as their 2,3,4,5

The Fake Shemp · « **Reply #163 on:** March 24, 2010, 05:48:49 PM »

Quote from: CajoleJuice on March 24, 2010, 04:57:47 PM

When do you think those two get called up?

Strasburg and Storen get called up in June, which is probably when Wang joins the rotation. Zimmermann also gets called up in August. Their pitching will be stabilized as a result after the All-Star break.

... if they can ship out Desmond, I like their infield, with the exception of Adam Kennedy.

Human Snorenado · « **Reply #164 on:** March 24, 2010, 06:02:04 PM »

Quote from: CajoleJuice on March 24, 2010, 05:28:24 PM

I like how you keep joking about Santana when you have Hudson on your staff.

Hudson has already had his TJ surgery, and in recent years guys have come back really well from that. Look at Peter Moylan having over 80 relief appearances last year in his first year back, etc etc. Hudson has looked sharp all spring, too, including today when he pitched six scoreless innings against a team with a far better offense than the Mutts. Hudson will be just fine.

Lowe is the real question mark. If he continues to suck we probably don't end up contending. Then of course there's our lineup, which is held together with training tape and spit. Lots of questions around Glaus and Chipper, and McClouth has looked atrocious all spring. We could either contend for the division or finish third at barely above .500. Who knows? At least we're not like the Mets, where there's no hope for this year.

Human Snorenado · « **Reply #165 on:** March 26, 2010, 04:55:18 PM »

...and it's official: Braves' opening day RF is Jason Heyward.

CajoleJuice · « **Reply #166 on:** March 26, 2010, 05:46:02 PM »

lol

Means the Yankees get him one year earlier!

The Fake Shemp · « **Reply #167 on:** March 26, 2010, 05:47:17 PM »

Can't wait to see him in pinstripes

Human Snorenado · « **Reply #168 on:** March 26, 2010, 05:47:42 PM »

I'm jabbing needles into my Santana voodoo doll's elbow right now, Cajole. Feels good, man. Feels good.

Also dropping rocks on the Strasburg voodoo doll's head. Figure I could get the last piece of Skylab to kill him.

The Fake Shemp · « **Reply #169 on:** March 26, 2010, 05:49:32 PM »

Looks like Desmond will be the Nats opening day starter at short, but his leash is short.

pollo · « **Reply #170 on:** March 28, 2010, 09:25:50 PM »

I'm going to bid up Heyward

Human Snorenado · « **Reply #171 on:** March 28, 2010, 09:53:39 PM »

Quote from: pollo on March 28, 2010, 09:25:50 PM

I'm going to bid up Heyward

Enjoy overpaying for a guy that isn't gonna hit more than probably 15 homers this year!

I will bid up all the Stankees. ALL OF THEM. Although since they're yanquis they'll be going for too much anyway.

CajoleJuice · « **Reply #172 on:** March 28, 2010, 10:18:00 PM »

I'M SO READY FOR THIS SHIT

Human Snorenado · « **Reply #173 on:** March 29, 2010, 03:17:08 AM »

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ToxicAdam · « **Reply #174 on:** March 29, 2010, 03:18:51 AM »

Auction drafts are the Wii of fantasy gaming.

Just a fad.

CajoleJuice · « **Reply #175 on:** March 29, 2010, 03:21:01 AM »

Quote from: ToxicAdam on March 29, 2010, 03:18:51 AM

Auction drafts are the Wii of fantasy gaming.

Just a fad.

It would have to become the most popular way to draft first, which it unfortunately isn't. God, it was so awesome.

Phil Hughes $7

Human Snorenado · « **Reply #176 on:** March 29, 2010, 03:23:20 AM »

Quote from: CajoleJuice on March 29, 2010, 03:21:01 AM

Quote from: ToxicAdam on March 29, 2010, 03:18:51 AM
Auction drafts are the Wii of fantasy gaming.

Just a fad.

It would have to become the most popular way to draft first, which it unfortunately isn't. God, it was so awesome.

Phil Hughes $7

pollo getting John Maine as his first pick

me getting stuck with Santana and Rivera

pollo · « **Reply #177 on:** March 29, 2010, 10:13:48 AM »

Mo at 20 bucks and no one budging

Triumph pulling the trigger for Heyward

Human Snorenado · « **Reply #178 on:** March 29, 2010, 10:44:13 AM »

Whatever. You said there were like seven Yankee fans in the league! No one acted like it if you weren't prepared to go over $20 on Rivera. Bunch of pussies.

Also, $10 for Heyward isn't that bad, he went for like $15 in the mock draft I did beforehand. And no, I stopped bidding on him after he hit $12 in that particular draft.

The Fake Shemp · « **Reply #179 on:** March 29, 2010, 10:48:00 AM »

How much did Strasburg go for? EIGHTY DOLLARS? I'd pay a cool mint.

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Author Topic: The only sport that matters: MLB 2010 Thread (Read 42956 times)