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ToxicAdam

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I thought Mythbusters busted this one ... ?
« on: March 01, 2010, 09:54:27 PM »
http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D9E62II80&show_article=1

MONTESANO, Wash. (AP) - Authorities believe a Washington man was killed by accidentally urinating on a downed power line after a car crash.
Grays Harbor County sheriff's Deputy Dave Pimentel (PIM'-en-tel) said Monday 50-year-old Roy Messenger was not seriously hurt after he collided with a power pole Friday and called a relative to pull his car from a ditch.

However, family members found Messenger electrocuted when they arrived.

Pimentel says Messenger apparently urinated into a roadside ditch but didn't see the live wire. The urine stream likely served as a conductor, allowing the electricity to reach his body.

Pimentel says there will be an autopsy but burn marks indicated the way the electricity traveled through Messenger's body.


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Didn't they do an episode where they found that urine wasn't conductive enough to serve as a conduit for electricity?


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Re: I thought Mythbusters busted this one ... ?
« Reply #1 on: March 01, 2010, 09:56:56 PM »
The blood is on their hands.
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Re: I thought Mythbusters busted this one ... ?
« Reply #2 on: March 01, 2010, 09:58:43 PM »
I don't know if it was the same episode, but I do recall them testing out the myth of pissing on the third rail of metro tracks, and came to the conclusion that it's plausible.  I also recall a badass lightning gun made with a pump watergun and a Tesla Coil, but I think that one was something to do with stun guns.
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Re: I thought Mythbusters busted this one ... ?
« Reply #3 on: March 01, 2010, 10:05:22 PM »
Didn't they do an episode where they found that urine wasn't conductive enough to serve as a conduit for electricity?

I hope not, because that would be complete bullshit. Urban legends aside, I've read actual new reports of dudes dying from peeing from bridges and down onto overhead wires for trains.

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Re: I thought Mythbusters busted this one ... ?
« Reply #4 on: March 01, 2010, 10:11:27 PM »
The Myth
A guy is wandering through a railyard drunk and needs to relieve himself. He makes sure no trains are coming and he starts to pee onto the third rail, which is electrical, and a current runs through his urine and kills him.

The Test

First the Mythbusters must determine if it is actually possible for urine to conduct electricty. They learn that the voltage of the third rail is 650 volts and they determine that the resistance of urine is 10,000 Ohms. Using Ohm's Law they determine that it can resistance 65 miliamps and all that is need to make you stop breathing is 30 miliamps. Now that they know it is possible to be killed through urine, they go about making a body out of ballestics gel and figure out how to make the dummy urinate. After many failures of making the dummy and success with urinating machine, they finally are able to test. They set up the dummy so that it will urinate onto a mock third rail that they set up. The first test shows no results. They decide to make the ground below the dummy wet and try again, however nothing happens. They try removing the shoes and making the ground wet again, however failure. They determine that the stream is not constant because by the time it has hit the rail it has broken up into drops. They increase the size of the tube that allows urine to exit and move the rail up so it is a few centimetres away. They try this time to success.

The Result

Busted. Although it is possible for someone to kill themselves by peeing on the third rail, it is very unlikely. (Note, this myth is revisited in Myths Revisited)


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I'm guessing the voltage in a power line is much greater than 650 volts.

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« Reply #5 on: March 01, 2010, 10:20:28 PM »
Uh, we peed on shitty electric fences when I was little.  That shit is definitely pretty conductive.  I can only imagine on a fucking power line.

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Re: I thought Mythbusters busted this one ... ?
« Reply #6 on: March 01, 2010, 10:58:28 PM »
He must have got a very consistent stream with no gaps. 

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Re: I thought Mythbusters busted this one ... ?
« Reply #7 on: March 01, 2010, 11:03:19 PM »
He must have got a very consistent stream with no gaps. 

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Re: I thought Mythbusters busted this one ... ?
« Reply #8 on: March 03, 2010, 02:29:23 AM »
I liked Mythbusters a lot more before those other three started getting airtime.

Especially Kari.  Don't like her.  So there.

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« Reply #9 on: March 03, 2010, 04:54:20 AM »
I liked Mythbusters a lot more before those other three started getting airtime.

Especially Kari.  Don't like her.  So there.



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Re: I thought Mythbusters busted this one ... ?
« Reply #10 on: March 03, 2010, 06:48:37 AM »
I feel like MythBustere is frequently full of shit.  Entertaining, but not exactly science.  Also, MythBusters is probably to blame for historically educational TV networks shittifying and sensationalizing their programming in the past 5 years.
They never test something scientific that scientists don't already know, that's what bothers me the most.  Like, they went through an insane amount of trouble to test if a bullet that was fired and another bullet that was dropped from the same height would hit the ground at the same time.  I do like the ones where they test more qualitative stuff though like whether or not something is survivable.

Most likely, it was Monster Garage that first lowered the bar for the educational tv channels.

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« Reply #11 on: March 03, 2010, 10:10:56 AM »
I feel like MythBustere is frequently full of shit.  Entertaining, but not exactly science.  Also, MythBusters is probably to blame for historically educational TV networks shittifying and sensationalizing their programming in the past 5 years.
They never test something scientific that scientists don't already know, that's what bothers me the most.  Like, they went through an insane amount of trouble to test if a bullet that was fired and another bullet that was dropped from the same height would hit the ground at the same time.

They said from the start that they knew what the outcome was going to be based on physics. The point was to show it happening.
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Re: I thought Mythbusters busted this one ... ?
« Reply #12 on: March 03, 2010, 06:04:10 PM »
I feel like MythBustere is frequently full of shit.  Entertaining, but not exactly science.  Also, MythBusters is probably to blame for historically educational TV networks shittifying and sensationalizing their programming in the past 5 years.
They never test something scientific that scientists don't already know, that's what bothers me the most.  Like, they went through an insane amount of trouble to test if a bullet that was fired and another bullet that was dropped from the same height would hit the ground at the same time.

They said from the start that they knew what the outcome was going to be based on physics. The point was to show it happening.
Oh the myth was that that wouldn't happen?  That's still pointless though.

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Re: I thought Mythbusters busted this one ... ?
« Reply #13 on: March 03, 2010, 06:10:25 PM »
Uh, we peed on shitty electric fences when I was little.  That shit is definitely pretty conductive.  I can only imagine on a fucking power line.

:lol


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« Reply #14 on: March 03, 2010, 06:30:11 PM »
Uh, we peed on shitty electric fences when I was little.  That shit is definitely pretty conductive.  I can only imagine on a fucking power line.

why. also: who is we. who did you pee in unison with?
just other kids in the trailer park.  Yep.  Lived in a trailer park in Tennessee pissing on electric cattle fences.  Never crossed streams though.  That shit is gay.  And we peed one at a time.

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Re: I thought Mythbusters busted this one ... ?
« Reply #15 on: March 03, 2010, 06:52:06 PM »
Uh, we peed on shitty electric fences when I was little.  That shit is definitely pretty conductive.  I can only imagine on a fucking power line.

this is like your superhero origin story
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« Reply #16 on: March 03, 2010, 07:26:12 PM »
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I don't like her as a TV presenter or someone I have to listen to.

But I like her as someone I could gag and do from behind while her head bumps against a bedpost, sure.

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Re: I thought Mythbusters busted this one ... ?
« Reply #17 on: March 03, 2010, 08:44:24 PM »
Uh, we peed on shitty electric fences when I was little.  That shit is definitely pretty conductive.  I can only imagine on a fucking power line.

why. also: who is we. who did you pee in unison with?
just other kids in the trailer park.  Yep.  Lived in a trailer park in Tennessee pissing on electric cattle fences.  Never crossed streams though.  That shit is gay.  And we peed one at a time.

This is so funny to me.  It made your peen tickle? 

I gotta try this out.

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« Reply #18 on: March 03, 2010, 10:11:57 PM »
Uh, we peed on shitty electric fences when I was little.  That shit is definitely pretty conductive.  I can only imagine on a fucking power line.

this is like your superhero origin story
:lol

Uh, we peed on shitty electric fences when I was little.  That shit is definitely pretty conductive.  I can only imagine on a fucking power line.

why. also: who is we. who did you pee in unison with?
just other kids in the trailer park.  Yep.  Lived in a trailer park in Tennessee pissing on electric cattle fences.  Never crossed streams though.  That shit is gay.  And we peed one at a time.

This is so funny to me.  It made your peen tickle? 

I gotta try this out.
I'm not sure how to describe the sensation but here's the best I can describe...

It felt like I was pissing out a razorblade.  or maybe some arrowheads.  but it happens really fast and the jolt will force you to aim your piss elsewhere and it's over in a second.  This was the result of mountain dew binges.

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Re: I thought Mythbusters busted this one ... ?
« Reply #19 on: March 03, 2010, 10:37:48 PM »
do you feel like maybe you felt, for a second, what it would be like to give birth to a child?

or something?

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Re: I thought Mythbusters busted this one ... ?
« Reply #20 on: March 03, 2010, 10:42:29 PM »
a uni-baby, maybe

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Re: I thought Mythbusters busted this one ... ?
« Reply #21 on: March 03, 2010, 11:31:50 PM »
do you feel like maybe you felt, for a second, what it would be like to give birth to a child?

or something?

Or give birth to a full-blown watersport fetish?

:piss :drool :piss2

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« Reply #22 on: March 04, 2010, 10:40:15 AM »
God no!  It didn't feel like my weiner was going to explode or anything.