Borecast 36: Registration of Podcast Information Could Not Be Completed

[Eel O'Brian]

Direct download:  http://media.libsyn.com/media/borecast/Borecast36.mp3

Borecast 36:  Registration of Podcast Information Could Not Be Completed (80022D11)

SEGMENT ONE

Movies

(5:10) Dead Snow

(8:40) Black Dynamite

Games

(17:30) STARCRAFT 2 Beta Impressions

(43:50) Dante's Inferno

(52:30) Heavy Rain (mild spoilers)

(1:05:00) Shellshock 2: Blood Trails

(1:08:35) Volvo: The Game

(1:10:40) IRON ROSES (!)

(MUSICAL INTERLUDE BY LISTENER KESTASTROPHE)

SEGMENT TWO

(1:17:20) Listener Comments

(1:32:55)  Contest Winners announced, sickening entries read in sexy voices

INDEFENSIBLE

(1:39:20) Doug's cruising for seamen

Talk to you again next week!

[Eel O'Brian]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=389337

[Ichirou]

Why do you post links to the GAF threads on this?  Just curious.

[Eel O'Brian]

for prole, mostly

[Human Snorenado]

Sounds like someone had to defend Shenmue

[Ichirou]

It would be awesome if PD and Cheebs did a movie review podcast.

[Human Snorenado]

It would be awesome if PD and Cheebs did a movie review podcast.

And Shake.  Definitely Shake.

[Ichirou]

I think Shake's a little too busy with his real film studies to do a podcast.

[Great Rumbler]

I hope to never meet "International House of Animu" in a dark alley. Too much of what he writes sounds drawn from personal experience. 

[Ichirou]

Just downloaded it.  This'll be the very first podcast I've ever bothered to listen to.  You should feel honored.

[Eel O'Brian]

ichirou

[Vizzys]

I hope to never meet "International House of Animu" in a dark alley. Too much of what he writes sounds drawn from personal experience. 

but it was a heartwarming tale

[tehjaybo]

I hope to never meet "International House of Animu" in a dark alley. Too much of what he writes sounds drawn from personal experience. 

I hope to meet them, so I can borrow the Black Adder.   

[Brehvolution]

Syncing iphone now.

[Ichirou]

Listening to it now.  PD's crazy, Prole doesn't have a lisp.

[Kestastrophe]

Himuro annihilated in the Shenmue talk

Please keep playing more crappy games. I think you guys are best when you're condescending assholes, especially concerning games with outspoken fanbases.

[Ichirou]

Yeah, it was pretty good.  I mean, I listened through the whole thing and enjoyed it even though I didn't care about half the topics you guys were talking about (Iron Roses, Volvo, Dante's Shitferno) so that says something.

Think I'll go download the previous 'Casts now.

[Eel O'Brian]

i am turning into the crappy game guy

although i did buy deadly premonition specifically under the assumption that it was gonna be a turd in a box i could laugh at on the show,  but it turned out to be turd-shaped sweet godiva chocolate instead so i suggested it to prole, and now we will both rave about it

[Ichirou]

Do you have a link to the Borecast where you dodes talked about Bayonetta, Eel?

[Eel O'Brian]

http://media.libsyn.com/media/borecast/Borecast31.mp3

[Kestastrophe]

I would like to hear both Prole and Eel play FF XIII and talk about it on a show. Maybe even deliver a state of the JRPG speech

[Joe Molotov]

I would like to hear both Prole and Eel play FF XIII and talk about it on a show. Maybe even deliver a state of the JRPG speech

Final Fantasy XIII deserves a real-time video podcast.

[Ichirou]

What with the Mass Effect series' romance options, I'd like a Borecast detailing exactly how this differs from Japanese dating sims because it seems to me, it doesn't. Same fuckin' thing.

[Great Rumbler]

You can beat Mass Effect without even exploring any of the romance options.

[Ichirou]

You can do the same with the Persona games, doesn't stop people from mocking them.

[Great Rumbler]

You can do the same with the Persona games, doesn't stop people from mocking them.

Who mocks the Persona games?

And in Persona 3 [the one I've played], exploring the romance options was directly tied into getting super-awesome Personas. So it's not entirely the same thing.

[Ichirou]

Not on this board, necessarily (well, other than demi), but I've seen it get mocked in other gaming forums for its dating elements (and I would argue character interaction in the Persona games is actually done better than at least in the first Mass Effect - I rescued Liara and two conversations later she's talking about what a mystical experience it would be to bang Shepard).

[Great Rumbler]

Don't a lot of people make fun of the romantic scenes in Mass Effect/Dragon Age though?

[Ichirou]

I'm not sure, actually.  Since I didn't have a 360 before last year, I had sort of ignored all threads on those games.

Maybe a good topic for a Borecast would be a discussion on how JRPGs handle romance versus WRPGs?  That would be broader.

[border]

Can our dear hosts please explain the difference between an honorable concession of defeat and a dishonorable ragequit?  Frag says that you should leave when you know you're beaten, but at the same time it seems like you guys want us to honor the winner's 30-45 minute time investment by playing out a doomed scenario to completion.  If you leave early is it a slap in the face (as Doug puts it), or is it just a considerate way to prevent your victorious opponent from wasting time?

I have to say some of my favorite griefing experiences come from developers that penalize quitters.  I'd be in a Halo 2 match and every member of my team would quit after a bad first round of CTF/Bombing, and I'd stick around just for the sake of making the winners sit through several 3-5 minute rounds of painfully lopsided 1 vs 4 gameplay.  I could just hide in a corner of the map and whenever the opposing team came across me they'd scream at me to quit so they could get on with steamrolling chumps in other games -- but since the ranking system heavily penalized quitters I could make the case that I didn't want to be downranked for quitting.  Of course I actually didn't care about my rank, and just enjoyed walking away from my TV to make a sandwich while a bunch of fratboys fumed over the fact that it took them 10 minutes to sit through a game that they'd obviously won after 2 minutes.

Of course this leads to a more interesting and nuanced question: Do you think that persistent stats and metagames encourage or discourage good player etiquette?  A developer can discourage players from ragequitting with a ranking system, but if you don't care about your ranking then you can actively turn other players' metagame-obsession against them, forcing them to waste time in an already-decided match because they're too scared of quitting and being subsequently downranked for quitting.  I don't play any RTS games, but being familiar with the genre's mechanics (**DRINK**), I imagine that once you know you've lost it can be pretty easy to grief just by turtling up and forcing your opponent to stay in the game as long as possible.

[brawndolicious]

I'm not sure, actually.  Since I didn't have a 360 before last year, I had sort of ignored all threads on those games.

Maybe a good topic for a Borecast would be a discussion on how JRPGs handle romance versus WRPGs?  That would be broader.

From what my friend has shown me in the Persona 4 walkthrough, the main character in a Persona game would flirt like a whiny emo-baby but Shepard pretty much has to come off as a bit of a dudebro to get in to anybody's pants.  They're both relatively shallow conversation sequences but I know which one I'd prefer.

Plus ME actually had an explicit sex scene that got a lot of negative publicity so that also gives some motivation to actually virtual-hump.

[Ichirou]

I just got that sex scene and I sure as fuck wouldn't call it explicit.

[Eel O'Brian]

Border -

Speaking for myself here, whether or not I quit a game depends on the situation.  Yeah, I've rage quit a few games before, I'd imagine everyone has.  Normally I'll tough it out, like in the Blur beta.  I may come in last in one race, but I know I have a shot at squeaking in a 2nd or 3rd place finish in the next one. 

There have been a few times where I've been getting stomped so badly in a strategy/etc game that I've pretty much told the other person we were both wasting our time, and we'd be better off disconnecting and playing someone else as it wasn't fun for either of us.

In the case of Warhawk, I've played a few unranked matches online with some real-life friends where people who are obviously experts at it would connect to our game, get in the planes, and just light everyone's asses up from that point on.  We'd all just disconnect at a certain point, seeing as it turned into a miserable experience for us and the five-star Generals (or whatever the ranking is) were obviously just game-trolling.

And if I am on a random team in an FPS game where everyone's great at it but I am sucking ass, I figure there's no harm in me leaving since I'm serving no other purpose than to bring them down (and sometimes they will loudly and repeatedly tell me this).  If I'm playing with friends and sucking I don't really care, as I'm having fun goofing off and bullshitting with them anyway.

Botom line for me is that I play games for my own personal enjoyment, and I have a limited amount of time to play.  While I will respect someone who has taken the time to set up a one-on-one game and tough it out, in games like Battlefield or Call of Duty I'll quit if I'm not having fun or feel like I'm wasting my time.  There's always gonna be another piece of meat to fill the empty slot I leave.

[Ichirou]

You're not a piece of meat to me, Eel.

[Eel O'Brian]

 

[Ichirou]

I'm not sure, actually.  Since I didn't have a 360 before last year, I had sort of ignored all threads on those games.

Maybe a good topic for a Borecast would be a discussion on how JRPGs handle romance versus WRPGs?  That would be broader.

From what my friend has shown me in the Persona 4 walkthrough, the main character in a Persona game would flirt like a whiny emo-baby but Shepard pretty much has to come off as a bit of a dudebro to get in to anybody's pants.  They're both relatively shallow conversation sequences but I know which one I'd prefer.

Plus ME actually had an explicit sex scene that got a lot of negative publicity so that also gives some motivation to actually virtual-hump.

The conversation sequences are both fairly shallow, but I would say that the thing the Persona games have going for them is that there are more conversations so the relationships get fleshed out a bit more.  Whereas in Mass Effect, the blue chick was already talking about asari sex two conversations in.  Such a slut.