Time (in so many words) says PS3=bad

[brawndolicious]

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1570831,00.html

TO PLAY'S THE THING

The big story in computer games this year was HOW TO BLOW A HUGE LEAD, by Sony. Its PlayStation 2 was the champ in the last round of the console wars. This time Sony bet on a chip called the Cell and a disc format called Blu-ray. They're probably awesome, but how would anybody know? The PS3 is hideously expensive--it goes for up to $600--and Sony manufactured only a piddling few hundred thousand for the U.S., fewer for Japan. Plus it's hard to write games for; the launch titles were lame. You know you're in trouble when you get beat by something called a Wii.

Meh, they're really can't say it has a chance?  I mean wtf?

[Eel O'Brian]

Ouch.  Between this and the New York Times article, that's a fuckton of negative press from the "legitimate" media.  That's going to be hard to overcome, especially with no E3 next year for the mainstream rebound positive game coverage.

[brawndolicious]

The stupid thing is it doesn't really explain why PS3 will fail.  It would have made a lot more sense to include this next year.

[Eel O'Brian]

Personally, I don't think it's going to be a bad system.  I'm not buying one until a huge price drop, because I refuse to help set the precedent that it's okay to charge $600 for a videogame system.  I didn't like paying $400 for the 360, but I can live with a $100 jump over a generation.  There's not a whole lot of incentive for me to buy one right now, anyway.  Once there are some PS3 Greatest Hits, and they're well rolling on their 1st party stuff, then I'll look into it. 

[FlameOfCallandor]

Wii60 for everyone

[Christopher]

WiiS3.

[Diablos]

Personally, I don't think it's going to be a bad system.  I'm not buying one until a huge price drop, because I refuse to help set the precedent that it's okay to charge $600 for a videogame system.  I didn't like paying $400 for the 360, but I can live with a $100 jump over a generation.  There's not a whole lot of incentive for me to buy one right now, anyway.  Once there are some PS3 Greatest Hits, and they're well rolling on their 1st party stuff, then I'll look into it. 

Get the $500 one, man.

Buy a cheapo USB wifi thing later on.

[CajoleJuice]

Personally, I don't think it's going to be a bad system.  I'm not buying one until a huge price drop, because I refuse to help set the precedent that it's okay to charge $600 for a videogame system.  I didn't like paying $400 for the 360, but I can live with a $100 jump over a generation.  There's not a whole lot of incentive for me to buy one right now, anyway.  Once there are some PS3 Greatest Hits, and they're well rolling on their 1st party stuff, then I'll look into it. 

Get the $500 one, man.

Buy a cheapo USB wifi thing later on.

 

[Diablos]

What? 

I don't even know what I'm buying at this point, I was just making a suggestion.

The $600 console really is overrated and Sony should have never released it. Forget two HDMI ports, who the hell REALLY needs that?
A bunch of card readers? LOL, release an official Sony USB card reader thing if you really want the option to be there. Wifi? Release an external adapter. Or leave that in while using the 20GB hard drive, and sell it for $450.

Bottom line. $500 is high, but $600 is wayyyy too much. They should've just rolled out the 20GB console and abandoned the idea of a 60GB console.

[CajoleJuice]

Well, you should've said it like that the first time, Diablos. 

[ToxicAdam]

Mainstream media always does a horrible job writing about video games.


I can't access the article here at work. But it seems they could've at least shown that historically gamers are adverse to paying alot for consoles (3D0 in NA) and that the Japanese market is currently obsessed with handheld gaming.

[brawndolicious]

That's actually the whole article right there, it's "The top 5 things that went from buzz to bust" so there's nothing they really say about it.

[MrAngryFace]

600 dollars, thats just hard to fathom. I cant imaging paying 600 dollars for the PROMISE of popular franchises and one Solid, but bland FPS from Insomniac. BLEHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

[pollo]

Needs more Shadows of the Colossus sequels 

[MrAngryFace]

Shadow of the Colossus sequels with a camera that doesnt suck and a steady framerate, no less.

[MrAngryFace]

Or you can get an xbox 360 which actually has some good games out for it already.

Sorry N-Fans n Sony-Bots, im givin yer half-baked consoles a year. Ill buy the WiiSP and the PSThree.

[Diablos]

600 dollars, thats just hard to fathom. I cant imaging paying 600 dollars for the PROMISE of popular franchises and one Solid, but bland FPS from Insomniac. BLEHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

I know this sounds trollish, but you don't HAVE to buy the $600 one. Not that $500 is significantly cheaper, but I'm just sayin'.

[bork]

Isn't the article really talking about products released THIS YEAR that were overhyped? 

It's not like this is it for PS3, nothing else will be released, it's in a slump, etc.  It fucking JUST CAME OUT.  It sold out at all stores.  A year from now this kind of stuff will be laughable.

[MrAngryFace]

It sold out cause there were like 0 released in the US lol. I think the only people who got the system were sports stars and people who dont mind dealing with shifty russian mafia types operating out of the back of their trucks.

Its neato completo that its all wizbang 600 dollar hardware, but the simple fact is it is a long way from being a competitive front for Sony. Hell at this point I could argue the PSP is a better front for Sony. The PS2, whether they back it at all next year or not, will continue to carry the PSP and the PS3 into the next gen even if consumers arent forking over the cash.

Lets just hope NEXT NEXT GEN Sony understands that GENERAL consumers (not gamer fanboys) dont want a testbed for new storage mediums and over-priced tech.

PS3 and Wii get a year from me, then i'll consider picking up the Wii SP and the PSThree when Sony and Nintendo are satisfied with their beta tests of next gen.

[Tigerriot]

The stupid thing is it doesn't really explain why PS3 will fail.  It would have made a lot more sense to include this next year.

Doesn't explain why it will fail?  Well, the $600 price is certainly a good place to start.  Thats just too expensive for most people.  I've bought every single console at launch for the past 15 years, and I had no itnerest in even trying to get a PS3 this fall.  That should tell you something.  I know this was the case with a lot of other hardcore gamers as well.


Sony has simply not offered anything that compels me to want this machine.  They've got an uphill fight ahead of them if they ever hope of truly being number one this generation.

[MrAngryFace]

360 was too much too, if I hadnt got a deal on it I wouldnt have bothered for a good year.

Im GLAD I got it tho, its the cornerstone of my living room media center.

[Himu]

360 may cost 400 dollars, but at least we're getting a good number of a games with that 400 dollars. The Sony shills who buy 500-600 dollar ps3 basically have nada as of now. I see no reason to spend that much money on something that is merely potential. In fact, spending that much money on a video game system period is not my thing and not something I will be doing in the future.

I'm getting a 360 next year and I'm going to be just fine with my Wii60 combo. I'll get a ps3 in 2010 when it costs 200 dollars.

[Eel O'Brian]

If you're a last-minute Christmas type of parent who doesn't know shit about video games, and the yard critter is yammering in your ear about new video game systems and Marios or Halos or Final Fantasies, the wager at Best Circuit City Gamestop Buy is going to break it down like this for bottom line prices:

Wii:  $250, but we don't have any.

PS3:  $500, but we don't have any.

Xbox 360:  $299, you need a memory card, we gots plenty.  Discount and used games, too.

360 is going to do great this season, but no video game systems are going to sell as well overall as past generations have.  This generation, all the video game companies are going to learn a lesson, and that lesson is the limit of BOHICA your average consumer has.

[MrAngryFace]

A head start counts for a lot, but in addition to that the 360 isnt nearly as....specific as the Wii or PS3.

PS3 is specific to 'people with lots of money' and the Wii is specific to 'people who think a new controller will lead to innovative gameplay'. PS3 isnt 'for everyone'. Its for people who make more money than they know what to do with or have parents that make more money than they know what to do with. None of the library thus far has proven to be a compelling element of PURCHASE.

I do NOT buy consoles based on their potential. That is FOOLISH SPENDING. There will be plenty of the console out when three games I actually WANT come out, and by then the price will probably have dropped. Early adopter support for either the Wii or PS3 borders on fanaticism.

[Bacon]

lol PS3 lost VF5.

[Diablos]

360 may cost 400 dollars, but at least we're getting a good number of a games with that 400 dollars. The Sony shills who buy 500-600 dollar ps3 basically have nada as of now. I see no reason to spend that much money on something that is merely potential. In fact, spending that much money on a video game system period is not my thing and not something I will be doing in the future.

You're getting to be as bad as Kaz and Ken, but you're on the other side of the spectrum.

[MrAngryFace]

Wasnt VF5 developed for hardware VERY similar to 360's anyway? I assumed 360 would at least get a really good port