Author Topic: Nintendo 3DS (Read 28763 times)

Himu · « **Reply #60 on:** March 23, 2010, 04:40:48 PM »

Quote from: BrandNew on March 23, 2010, 04:36:06 PM

Quote from: Himuro on March 23, 2010, 04:26:24 PM

I'll stick with pc thanks.

you are just the cat's meow all of a sudden, aren't you

Huh? All of a sudden? Why do think I now relegate myself to owning only one console and just a gaming pc? It's me slowly phasing myself out as a gamer. This is my last gen.

MCD · « **Reply #61 on:** March 23, 2010, 04:45:56 PM »

Quote from: Himuro on March 23, 2010, 04:26:24 PM

This is my last gen.

M3wThr33 · « **Reply #62 on:** March 23, 2010, 04:50:16 PM »

Still on my launch-day DS. I have no need or desire to upgrade. Especially until Nintendo actually unveils a fucking migration plan. DSi games that YOU BOUGHT can't be played on DSi XL. You can't migrate to new handhelds or consoles with Nintendo.

drew · « **Reply #63 on:** March 23, 2010, 05:01:26 PM »

people need to stop thinking of themselves as "gamers", because then you end up with shit like this, i didnt touch a controller from 2000-2005, it happened naturally, ugh

Himu · « **Reply #64 on:** March 23, 2010, 05:06:07 PM »

Quote from: Wrath2X on March 23, 2010, 04:52:17 PM

Quote from: Himuro on March 23, 2010, 04:40:48 PM
Quote from: BrandNew on March 23, 2010, 04:36:06 PM
Quote from: Himuro on March 23, 2010, 04:26:24 PM

I'll stick with pc thanks.

you are just the cat's meow all of a sudden, aren't you

Huh? All of a sudden? Why do think I now relegate myself to owning only one console and just a gaming pc? It's me slowly phasing myself out as a gamer. This is my last gen.
Yeah sure we believe that.

It's impossible for anyone to stop playing games, that much is true. But buying all of the systems thats available? Paying full price (60 dollars!) on games? Those days are over.

It's not like this is the first time I have gone over this on these boards or on gaf, either. I have been documented saying this same thing for the past year. TEXP can vouch for me, he seems to have the same train of thought.

You guys can continue to spend 200-400 on each system (that's three systems a pop, totaling on average 1000 for all three systems, and this isn't including the portable systems) and spend 60 (or more) on software, but I'm done with that shit.

Too much of a time sink, costs too much money, little reward.

Raban · « **Reply #65 on:** March 23, 2010, 05:06:17 PM »

Yeah I stopped living in that mentality right after I said I quit gaming. You don't need to be a "gamer" to enjoy video games. Jeebus. It isn't a niche of society anymore.

EDIT: Who the fuck buys all games/consoles on launch day? Maybe once or twice a year I pay full price for a game, but otherwise I wait for that shit to drop below at least $40 before I even think of buying it. And consoles? I learned from early this generation to never, EVER, go for the launch.

demi · « **Reply #66 on:** March 23, 2010, 05:09:41 PM »

Himuro stopping gaming cause he has no job. Ok, gotcha.

Himu · « **Reply #67 on:** March 23, 2010, 05:10:09 PM »

It's impossible to stop being a gamer. You can be a gamer by just playing solitaire on Windows. But there's a difference between that and making gaming an actual hobby.

Himu · « **Reply #68 on:** March 23, 2010, 05:10:29 PM »

Quote from: demi on March 23, 2010, 05:09:41 PM

Himuro stopping gaming cause he has no job. Ok, gotcha.

Not really.

demi · « **Reply #69 on:** March 23, 2010, 05:11:33 PM »

WOW $1000 A YEAR IM BROKE MAN

Himu · « **Reply #70 on:** March 23, 2010, 05:14:06 PM »

Who the fuck would stop playing games?

bork · « **Reply #71 on:** March 23, 2010, 05:14:32 PM »

Quote from: startselect on March 23, 2010, 05:06:17 PM

And consoles? I learned from early this generation to never, EVER, go for the launch.

Depends on the maker, it seems. With Microsoft, yeah...launch systems =

:'( :'( :'( $:-\$

. The Wii I got has been fine. While I'm glad I got a launch model 20GB PS3 for the backwards-compatibility feature, I'm also unable to use ad-hoc party for PSP, something I would have enjoyed using. I think I can't do remote play either.

M3wThr33 · « **Reply #72 on:** March 23, 2010, 05:15:35 PM »

You can do remote play over Wifi on your router. It works.

Quote from: startselect on March 23, 2010, 05:06:17 PM

Yeah I stopped living in that mentality right after I said I quit gaming. You don't need to be a "gamer" to enjoy video games. Jeebus. It isn't a niche of society anymore.

EDIT: Who the fuck buys all games/consoles on launch day? Maybe once or twice a year I pay full price for a game, but otherwise I wait for that shit to drop below at least $40 before I even think of buying it. And consoles? I learned from early this generation to never, EVER, go for the launch.

Obviously I never bought a handheld again on launch day. Too broke to afford launch-day stuff now.

Raban · « **Reply #73 on:** March 23, 2010, 05:20:00 PM »

Quote from: Good Day Sir on March 23, 2010, 05:14:32 PM

Quote from: startselect on March 23, 2010, 05:06:17 PM
And consoles? I learned from early this generation to never, EVER, go for the launch.

Depends on the maker, it seems. With Microsoft, yeah...launch systems = :'( :'( :'( $:-\$ . The Wii I got has been fine. While I'm glad I got a launch model 20GB PS3 for the backwards-compatibility feature, I'm also unable to use ad-hoc party for PSP, something I would have enjoyed using. I think I can't do remote play either.

The way I see this gen is goes like this:

Wii was too expensive at launch, had you waited you would've paid the proper Nintendo console price.
Xbox 360 was

PS3 was $600 until a year and then the 60GB dropped down to $500 (slightly more reasonable but still insane)

I used to exclude handhelds from this rule but the PSP made me add them in. And I'm never buying a launch Nintendo handheld ever again. They're basically the Apple of video game consoles. Throw out a piece of shit so people pay to beta test, release the real hardware later.

Not that the DS fat is terrible, but the Lite is a marked improvement.

bork · « **Reply #74 on:** March 23, 2010, 05:24:28 PM »

The original DS was the only Nintendo handheld I regretted buying. I didn't own it for very long and traded it towards a then-just-released-in-Japan-only PSP, which was selling for insanely high prices at the time. It was worth the trade and the cash spent to get the PSP. Yeah the GBA didn't have a back or frontlight, but I didn't feel burned by it or anything. It's not that I thought the DS hardware, bulky and clunky as it was, was crappy either, just underwhelming and the launch software was pretty blah.

Didn't buy a PSP Go, but had I purchased one I'd probably be feeling that burn hard right now.

Raban · « **Reply #75 on:** March 23, 2010, 05:30:39 PM »

I think the GBA is one of the best handhelds ever, the lack of backlighting sucks, though.

I always want to get a PSP but every hardware revision gets worse and worse. The first gen was the closest to the best but the weak backlight, the malfunctioning square button and the kind of weak battery is a pain. With the 2000 and 3000 I just hate portable devices coated in shiny plastic because they get fucking NASTY over time. I'd get a Go but it's about $100 too expensive. Maybe the PSPGo-2000 will be better.

bork · « **Reply #76 on:** March 23, 2010, 05:37:14 PM »

Quote from: startselect on March 23, 2010, 05:30:39 PM

I think the GBA is one of the best handhelds ever, the lack of backlighting sucks, though.

I always want to get a PSP but every hardware revision gets worse and worse. The first gen was the closest to the best but the weak backlight, the malfunctioning square button and the kind of weak battery is a pain. With the 2000 and 3000 I just hate portable devices coated in shiny plastic because they get fucking NASTY over time. I'd get a Go but it's about $100 too expensive. Maybe the PSPGo-2000 will be better.

I've had a white 2000 since launch. September 2007, IIRC. It still looks the same as it does the day I got it. There's no real advantage to getting a Go over the other PSP versions. Apparently you can't even make use of memory sticks as easily in the Go as you can with the other PSPs.

Hacked PSPs are the way to go. 333mhz, memory stick loading, compressed ISOs, and some sweet emulators. CPS2 and Neo-Geo on the go all day long.

Raban · « **Reply #77 on:** March 23, 2010, 05:38:58 PM »

Is it easy to hack PSP-3000s?

I haven't done that since the launch PSP.

Beezy · « **Reply #78 on:** March 23, 2010, 05:39:58 PM »

Quote from: startselect on March 23, 2010, 05:20:00 PM

Not that the DS fat is terrible, but the Lite is a marked improvement.

Everyone I know who got a lite had to replace it. Broken hinge, touchscreen stopped working, either screen stopped displaying the picture, L or R button fucked up, etc... I don't think there has been a weaker Nintendo handheld/console.

Raban · « **Reply #79 on:** March 23, 2010, 05:41:34 PM »

Quote from: Beezy on March 23, 2010, 05:39:58 PM

Quote from: startselect on March 23, 2010, 05:20:00 PM
Not that the DS fat is terrible, but the Lite is a marked improvement.
Everyone I know who got a lite had to replace it. Broken hinge, touchscreen stopped working, either screen stopped displaying the picture, L or R button fucked up, etc... I don't think there has been a weaker Nintendo handheld/console.

I thankfully never had those problems, but I do remember the hinge/shoulder buttons were an issue for some folks.

Himu · « **Reply #80 on:** March 23, 2010, 05:43:28 PM »

Quote from: Beezy on March 23, 2010, 05:39:58 PM

Quote from: startselect on March 23, 2010, 05:20:00 PM
Not that the DS fat is terrible, but the Lite is a marked improvement.
Everyone I know who got a lite had to replace it. Broken hinge, touchscreen stopped working, either screen stopped displaying the picture, L or R button fucked up, etc... I don't think there has been a weaker Nintendo handheld/console.

Haven't had that problem.

Beezy · « **Reply #81 on:** March 23, 2010, 05:56:32 PM »

quiet pcfag

Himu · « **Reply #82 on:** March 23, 2010, 06:03:52 PM »

Smooth Groove · « **Reply #83 on:** March 23, 2010, 06:08:50 PM »

Quote from: Good Day Sir on March 23, 2010, 05:37:14 PM

Hacked PSPs are the way to go. 333mhz, memory stick loading, compressed ISOs, and some sweet emulators. CPS2 and Neo-Geo on the go all day long.

Who you fooling? You hacked it for the same reason everyone else did.

Van Cruncheon · « **Reply #84 on:** March 23, 2010, 06:10:16 PM »

i didn't hack mine for piracy. i hacked it because i fuckin' hate load times. i have bought every psp game i own

rich motherfuckers

Smooth Groove · « **Reply #85 on:** March 23, 2010, 06:14:50 PM »

I've also bought every PSP game that I own.

But I don't own that many. Usually I just borrow.

Himu · « **Reply #86 on:** March 23, 2010, 07:07:48 PM »

I bought every psp game I own as well.

demi · « **Reply #87 on:** March 23, 2010, 07:11:56 PM »

Ok guys, I can do this too

I bought every PSP game I own

And downloaded the rest

Madrun Badrun · « **Reply #88 on:** March 23, 2010, 07:20:16 PM »

Quote from: demi on March 23, 2010, 07:11:56 PM

Ok guys, I can do this too

I bought every PSP game I own

And downloaded the rest

Smooth Groove · « **Reply #89 on:** March 23, 2010, 07:30:44 PM »

Quote from: demi on March 23, 2010, 07:11:56 PM

And downloaded the rest

That's what I meant by "borrow".

pilonv1 · « **Reply #90 on:** March 23, 2010, 07:39:49 PM »

@ thinking this will have "current" tech. Name the last Nintendo system to have "current" tech.

bork · « **Reply #91 on:** March 23, 2010, 07:40:56 PM »

Quote from: Smooth Groove on March 23, 2010, 06:08:50 PM

Quote from: Good Day Sir on March 23, 2010, 05:37:14 PM
Hacked PSPs are the way to go. 333mhz, memory stick loading, compressed ISOs, and some sweet emulators. CPS2 and Neo-Geo on the go all day long.

Who you fooling? You hacked it for the same reason everyone else did.

I hacked it for the reasons above. It was the Neo-Geo and CPS emulators specifically that led to me even buying a 2000 in the first place. Downloading games is nice for trying out stuff, sure. I'm not denying I don't do it. But I buy my games and rip them:

DS is another story.

Smooth Groove · « **Reply #92 on:** March 23, 2010, 07:47:08 PM »

Lyte, I was just messing around. If you love the platform, you should support it.

I really don't care if the PSP dies so I have no qualms about downloading its games. The sad thing is that there's no PSP game that I want to play even if it's free. God of War and MGS:Portable OPs are the only two games that I've played for more than 30 mins and I paid for both of them. Basically, my PSP is just used for web browsing in the toilet or bed.

Raban · « **Reply #93 on:** March 23, 2010, 08:13:23 PM »

Lyte how can you play CPS fighting games with the PSP's horrid d-pad?

Van Cruncheon · « **Reply #94 on:** March 23, 2010, 08:27:11 PM »

the psp's d-pad has been aces since the 2000, rip van winkle

bork · « **Reply #95 on:** March 23, 2010, 08:38:13 PM »

Quote from: Smooth Groove on March 23, 2010, 07:47:08 PM

Lyte, I was just messing around. If you love the platform, you should support it.

Right...that's why I buy PSP games and got an Acekard for my DS.

I did buy the Miles Edgeworth DS game last month. First DS game I've purchased since 2008!

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I really don't care if the PSP dies so I have no qualms about downloading its games. The sad thing is that there's no PSP game that I want to play even if it's free. God of War and MGS:Portable OPs are the only two games that I've played for more than 30 mins and I paid for both of them. Basically, my PSP is just used for web browsing in the toilet or bed.

I just like having a number of console and arcade ports on the go. That's what I spend the majority of my time playing on PSP.

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Quote from: startselect on March 23, 2010, 08:13:23 PM
Lyte how can you play CPS fighting games with the PSP's horrid d-pad?
Quote from: Professor Prole on March 23, 2010, 08:27:11 PM
the psp's d-pad has been aces since the 2000, rip van winkle

.

cool breeze · « **Reply #96 on:** March 23, 2010, 08:48:23 PM »

Quote from: pilonv1 on March 23, 2010, 07:39:49 PM

@ thinking this will have "current" tech. Name the last Nintendo system to have "current" tech.

Gamecube or GBA (don't remember what came out first). It wasn't until the DS that Nintendo was a ways behind with their tech, then the Wii followed that up with five year old hardware. I mean, you always had people saying they did it because they failed so hard with the Gamecube that they had to resort to other ways of gaining appealing than just more powerful hardware. Hopefully it means that they're in a position now that they can have their gimmicky stuff along with current tech. People claim it's around Gamecube level of power and that sounds better than the current standard set by iphone, zune hd, and PSP.

I'm all for this Nintendo 3DS thing if even half of what they claim is true. The only thing I'm skeptical about is when they say Gamecube level, this is before they factor the 3D stuff they'd need to do. On PC and PS3 games usually take a noticeable hit when running in 3D. I think the average for PC is 40% decrease in performance and for Wipeout HD in 3D, you can tell it isn't as smooth and the resolution has been dropped a bit.

Quote from: Professor Prole on March 23, 2010, 08:27:11 PM

the psp's d-pad has been aces since the 2000, rip van winkle

PSP 2000 is the best d-pad Sony has ever made

Ichirou · « **Reply #97 on:** March 23, 2010, 08:56:02 PM »

Quote from: Beezy on March 23, 2010, 05:39:58 PM

Quote from: startselect on March 23, 2010, 05:20:00 PM
Not that the DS fat is terrible, but the Lite is a marked improvement.
Everyone I know who got a lite had to replace it. Broken hinge, touchscreen stopped working, either screen stopped displaying the picture, L or R button fucked up, etc... I don't think there has been a weaker Nintendo handheld/console.

My Lite's touchscreen broke, hinge broke, one of the buttons lost its 'clickyness' (dunno what other word to use)...

I ended up buying another one.

magus · « **Reply #98 on:** March 23, 2010, 09:11:04 PM »

Quote from: Ichirou on March 23, 2010, 08:56:02 PM

Quote from: Beezy on March 23, 2010, 05:39:58 PM
Quote from: startselect on March 23, 2010, 05:20:00 PM
Not that the DS fat is terrible, but the Lite is a marked improvement.
Everyone I know who got a lite had to replace it. Broken hinge, touchscreen stopped working, either screen stopped displaying the picture, L or R button fucked up, etc... I don't think there has been a weaker Nintendo handheld/console.

My Lite's touchscreen broke, hinge broke, one of the buttons lost its 'clickyness' (dunno what other word to use)...

I ended up buying another one.

the center of my phat touchscreen is somewhat fucked up,i didn't repair it because 1) it's not completly broken 2) the number of games that make use of the touchscreen has dwindled to single digits 3) i'm poor

Ichirou · « **Reply #99 on:** March 23, 2010, 09:17:37 PM »

Maybe you can send it in to Nintendo and have them fix it for you for cheap.

Tell them how poor you are.

MCD · « **Reply #100 on:** March 23, 2010, 09:53:21 PM »

tell them this is your last gen too.

Bebpo · « **Reply #101 on:** March 23, 2010, 11:05:19 PM »

I just wanted to post that Himuro's abandoning of gaming one games/genre/system at a time is depressing.

Soon Himuro will only play games on real life.

originalz · « **Reply #102 on:** March 23, 2010, 11:08:35 PM »

Even the DS wasn't exactly behind tech-wise, it followed the logical pattern of having N64-comparable specs, just as the GBA was SNES-comparable. It's only that the PSP started from a much higher point to begin with. Makes sense for the 3DS to go Gamecube level, not that it would be remarkable, the Wiz is already on that level. I'm just hoping for OLED! Wireless N would also be boss.

The hinge thing on my lite cracked, seemed like an unavoidable issue for launch systems. Never seemed to affect anything though, not like my system fell apart afterwards, shit worked fine up until the day I got a DSi and retired it.

Beezy · « **Reply #103 on:** March 24, 2010, 12:12:39 AM »

Smh, how many DS owners on this board have only had ONE DS?

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #104 on:** March 24, 2010, 12:24:02 AM »

Quote from: Beezy on March 24, 2010, 12:12:39 AM

Smh, how many DS owners on this board have only had ONE DS?

*raises hand*

Cormacaroni · « **Reply #105 on:** March 24, 2010, 12:24:44 AM »

Actual post about the 3DS

Doesn't this go against Nintendo's whole newb-friendly vibe? I assume stylus control is out now, and a stick seems to be a return to the sort of complex controls that would risk alienating the grannies. Although I'm intrigued, and admire their continued attempts at innovation - a simple h/w upgrade would have been pointless.

Bebpo · « **Reply #106 on:** March 24, 2010, 12:32:06 AM »

Stylus is not out. Fully compatible with DS/DSi games.

Plus that DSiware game that is 3d uses touch controls

Bebpo · « **Reply #107 on:** March 24, 2010, 12:33:08 AM »

Quote from: Beezy on March 24, 2010, 12:12:39 AM

Smh, how many DS owners on this board have only had ONE DS?

You only have a phat? Man, the phat was so shitty. I barely ever played my DS and it was all about PSP until the Lite came out.

I didn't get a DSi though because there was zero point. Especially now!

cool breeze · « **Reply #108 on:** March 24, 2010, 12:33:40 AM »

I don't see why. The popular DS game like Mario Kart and NSMB use traditional controls, and even the Wii versions of those are popular. If you're talking about Brain Age and things like that, I don't see why it would be a problem. Most 3D monitors can be used as regular 2D stuff for reading or w/e. I don't think they would be getting rid of the touch screen either, especially not after it has almost become a standard on handheld devices because of the iphone. The stick (could be a new type of analog stick, btw) is probably just there because if it is Gamecube level graphics, they'd need a better control method if they wanted games like Mario Galaxy on it.

and what bebpo said in less words

I bought a DSi and haven't really used it much since I did. Only big game I played on it was Spirit Tracks (

) and Mario and Luigi 3 (

). Other than the better controls, it wasn't a worthwhile upgrade (compared to the lite). I feel the same way about getting a PSP-3000 when I had a PSP-2000.

Cormacaroni · « **Reply #109 on:** March 24, 2010, 12:52:56 AM »

Quote from: Bebpo on March 24, 2010, 12:32:06 AM

Stylus is not out. Fully compatible with DS/DSi games.

Plus that DSiware game that is 3d uses touch controls

For the old stuff, sure. Like they still have a D-pad so people can play GBA on their DS. But is it going to work as a controller for the new 3D stuff? Is the 3D only going to be on the top screen or what?

This would have been far more fun if they'd just leaked some rumors so at least we could speculate a bit more wildly. The bloody press release is as dry as toast.

Bebpo · « **Reply #110 on:** March 24, 2010, 12:55:35 AM »

Quote from: swaggaz on March 24, 2010, 12:33:40 AM

I bought a DSi and haven't really used it much since I did. Only big game I played on it was Spirit Tracks ( ) and Mario and Luigi 3 ( ). Other than the better controls, it wasn't a worthwhile upgrade (compared to the lite). I feel the same way about getting a PSP-3000 when I had a PSP-2000.

I ended up sticking with my PSP-1000. Played through BBS, Classic Dungeon, and Zettai Hero so far this year and all were perfectly fine (well one small area has some color bleeding in BBS), so meh I will stay with my 1000 until PSP2.

maxy · « **Reply #111 on:** March 24, 2010, 05:17:00 AM »

Imagine if Capcom puts Monster Hunter on this...
Monster Hunter 3D

Btw,Sony has responded,same old stuff...

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Koller, who is director of hardware and marketing at SCEA, went on to question whether Nintendo is on the right track.

"I think it remains to be seen where Nintendo goes with 3D on a portable," he said.

"Having been in the portable space for quite awhile, I think it's an interesting move but one I'd like to see where they go from a demographic standpoint. 8 and 9 year-olds playing 3D is a little bit of a stretch given where some of our research is right now."

Beezy · « **Reply #112 on:** March 24, 2010, 05:51:29 AM »

Quote from: Bebpo on March 24, 2010, 12:33:08 AM

Quote from: Beezy on March 24, 2010, 12:12:39 AM
Smh, how many DS owners on this board have only had ONE DS?

You only have a phat? Man, the phat was so shitty. I barely ever played my DS and it was all about PSP until the Lite came out.

I didn't get a DSi though because there was zero point. Especially now!

I didn't see any reason to upgrade. Portability and weak backlight isn't an issue since I only play it at home anyway. I did want a lite when it first came out, then I heard about its problems. And the DSi just isn't worth it at that price imo.

brawndolicious · « **Reply #113 on:** March 24, 2010, 05:59:36 AM »

It seems like this tech might be really cool for like 3D games being played on a 2D plane (like NSMB or maybe even Metroid

).

Of course they could cheap out on the tech and throw a bunch of gimmicky demos on it and crush my dreams.

I don't know if anybody pointed out the elephant in the room but it seems like any game that is designed for the 3DS won't really be easy to port. I wonder how all those third-party Wii publishers that made a genuine effort feel about this....