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« Reply #180 on: May 20, 2011, 10:26:55 AM »
Also, say what you like about DA2, the UI and inventory system in that is a lot better than the frankly amateurish effort in Witcher 2. It's particularly disappointing considering how beautiful the rest of the game is. And it's probably one of the reasons why the tutorial stuff is so terrible.  I don't even think there's a button to sort all your items in the inventory.

I think they are always good when it comes to the actual playing the game stuff mostly. It's just everything else they are kind of weak on. Which is unfortunate. If they could bridge their deep gameplay with better or more helpful menu work and tutorials I think they could expand their audience a great deal beyond just the very hardcore. I'm sure for people who didn't play the original (or even if they did) this game feels initially daunting. I'll be curious to see how they fix or address some of that stuff on the inevitable console versions.
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« Reply #181 on: May 20, 2011, 10:53:32 AM »
I haven't had any problems with the UI or figuring out what to do. 

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« Reply #182 on: May 20, 2011, 10:58:41 AM »
I did and I played the first game. The tutorial pop-ups are shit. They immediately disappear if you move and the game throws a shit ton of concepts at you at the beginning of the game as you are still just trying to figure out how to even fight properly. Not a good job with that stuff or the menu stuff imo at least in the sense of explaining it. Worse than the first game in that aspect which is quite a feat to pull off. I just bumbled around until I figured it out.

Doesn't effect how I feel about the game but it certainly was handled in a half ass manner.

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« Reply #183 on: May 20, 2011, 11:14:49 AM »
I guess the best thing I can say about the inventory management stuff is that just works. My main problem with it is that there's no sorting options and it can be kinda difficult to get a bearing on what you have, particularly because there's just tons of materials and herbs to go through.

The best thing about the UI is the radial menu which works really well.

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« Reply #184 on: May 20, 2011, 11:31:29 AM »
It's still better than The Witcher 1, which had one of the worst inventory systems of all time.

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« Reply #185 on: May 20, 2011, 12:30:00 PM »
Now I feel a bit upset that I got the free Amazon shipping, alas it hasn't come in yet so no playing this over the weekend :(
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« Reply #186 on: May 20, 2011, 06:36:19 PM »
Still waiting for AMD to release CAP 15.2 or whatever before I download this.  I've read there's performance issues for Crossfire (again!) so I'll just sit until they roll out an update to fix it.  Should be soon....hopefully.

I never really cared too much for the first Witcher but this one looks pretty freakin' awesome.  Should be fun.
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« Reply #187 on: May 20, 2011, 08:58:22 PM »
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Fought against Letho the kingslayer a few times, got totally shredded each and every time. Going toe-to-toe with another Witcher ain't no joke, that's for sure. I decided to go back to town and finished up some other quests and stuff before I try again.
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« Reply #188 on: May 21, 2011, 12:32:37 AM »
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« Reply #189 on: May 21, 2011, 07:51:20 AM »
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Fought against Letho the kingslayer a few times, got totally shredded each and every time. Going toe-to-toe with another Witcher ain't no joke, that's for sure. I decided to go back to town and finished up some other quests and stuff before I try again.
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I died a few times before I came up with this relatively simple formula

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Only use the Aard sign (force push) in that fight, and only ever use the quick attack (m1).

- You can get one or two swipes at him right at the start of the fight if you're quick.
- After that, he will use his Quen (force shield). Keep your distance and keep using the dodge button to get away from his attacks.
- Once his Quen fades, use Aard, run up to him and give him two quick swipes (3 swipes if you're quick), then dodge out of the way and keep your distance.
- Repeat until fight's over. Theoretically, you can do this fight without getting hit if you're good. 
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« Reply #190 on: May 21, 2011, 10:54:57 AM »
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Fought against Letho the kingslayer a few times, got totally shredded each and every time. Going toe-to-toe with another Witcher ain't no joke, that's for sure. I decided to go back to town and finished up some other quests and stuff before I try again.
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I died a few times before I came up with this relatively simple formula

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Only use the Aard sign (force push) in that fight, and only ever use the quick attack (m1).

- You can get one or two swipes at him right at the start of the fight if you're quick.
- After that, he will use his Quen (force shield). Keep your distance and keep using the dodge button to get away from his attacks.
- Once his Quen fades, use Aard, run up to him and give him two quick swipes (3 swipes if you're quick), then dodge out of the way and keep your distance.
- Repeat until fight's over. Theoretically, you can do this fight without getting hit if you're good. 
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I loaded up on a vitality potion and a damage potion before the fight, then added some damage oil to my sword. Still took my a few tries, but I finally got in there and tore him up. Too bad you still lose either way.
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Edit: Now I'm done with Chapter 1.

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Sided with the elves and saved the elven women instead of chasing after the commandant.
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« Reply #191 on: May 21, 2011, 03:47:10 PM »
i pains me to have to say this but... this is a controller game. the combat is so much more fluid and really fun with a gamepad.

really enjoying this.


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LOVE the LOD stuff.


To avoid spoilers I'll just mention the name of the character involved in the quest:
Mileena
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I went into the cave and killed all the Neekers. I came out and lied about what I saw. Then the fuckin bitch turned on me! So I killed all her elf buddies and now she's run off and I have to find her.
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I really love this kind of multi-tiered quest where you dont really know where it will end.
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« Reply #192 on: May 21, 2011, 05:03:24 PM »
Played a bit with the 360 controller and I'd have to agree, the game feels a lot smoother and more responsive going that route.
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« Reply #193 on: May 21, 2011, 08:47:49 PM »
i'm 8 hours in and i havent even done the main quest in the first chapter  :lol
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« Reply #194 on: May 21, 2011, 10:18:53 PM »
i'm 8 hours in and i havent even done the main quest in the first chapter  :lol

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« Reply #195 on: May 22, 2011, 08:02:03 AM »
I usually find collecting and crafting stuff woefully boring in most rpgs but I'm sorta addicted to the deep, unique system in Witcher 2. At a time when the genre's big hitters are opting to streamline most aspects of the wrpg, it's refreshing to play a big budget crpg that's committed to providing depth.

In keeping with the game's low fantasy world, there's an engaging quasi-realistic loot/economy system. You collect tons of crafting materials and you have to carefully select those of which you want to sell off so you can purchase specific crafting diagrams(recipes) . And then you find you're a little short some materials so you purchase extra crafting diagrams for those also. And the cycle continues. It's an economic system that's deep enough to allow for various risk/reward choices.

For example, I'm currently in the market for some new armor. I have two diagrams, one for a slightly better armour set ones those I currently have equipped, the other diagram for a much better set. +7 armor compared to +25. Now I already have all the materials to build the former, but if I do build it, I lose hard sought after materials to the latter, superior armor, of which I need the skin of a monster I have not yet encountered to build. Already there's a lot of choices I can make. Is this monster rare? Can I find more of the materials if I decide to craft the weaker set? Can I recoup the costs incurred if I sell off my equipped set? Now you can extend these questions to sword crafting and potion making too, so there's a lot there to sink your teeth into.

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« Reply #196 on: May 22, 2011, 11:51:15 AM »
i'm having a lot of trouble getting the Troll Trouble dlc. i think the dev's servers are getting hammered.


was able to beat the Kayran earlier. the second part of the battle is a little weird and it took me like 5 tries to figure out what i had to do.
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« Reply #197 on: May 22, 2011, 12:12:32 PM »
i'm having a lot of trouble getting the Troll Trouble dlc. i think the dev's servers are getting hammered.


was able to beat the Kayran earlier. the second part of the battle is a little weird and it took me like 5 tries to figure out what i had to do.

Most people aren't able to get the dlc currently. We have to wait for the patch which supposed to be coming this week.

I had the same problem with the 2nd part of the Kayran fight. I stood behind that rock for a few minutes trying to figure out what to do.


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« Reply #198 on: May 22, 2011, 12:26:34 PM »
i'm having a lot of trouble getting the Troll Trouble dlc. i think the dev's servers are getting hammered.


was able to beat the Kayran earlier. the second part of the battle is a little weird and it took me like 5 tries to figure out what i had to do.

Most people aren't able to get the dlc currently. We have to wait for the patch which supposed to be coming this week.

I had the same problem with the 2nd part of the Kayran fight. I stood behind that rock for a few minutes trying to figure out what to do.



Yeah, that part got me at first too. But I figured it out on the second try.
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« Reply #199 on: May 22, 2011, 08:36:22 PM »
I'm in the Chapter 2 now and I encountered a little oversight in the quest design. nothing major:

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I got some info of some plotters who may have information I want so I managed to find their hideout and had to fight a lot of them. The main dude had some armor on and mentioned some names I didn't know anything about. Later on after I had already taken the armor I spoke with a dude from the camp and he told me about a big batter years earlier and referenced the armor and the person who wore it and we both inquired as to the whereabouts of the armor (that i was currently wearing lol). Also he spoke about the guy i fought down in the hideout.
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It's obvious the former quest is supposed to occur after the latter.

So far the story is kind of hard to follow. There's a lot of names and history being thrown around that I don't know anything about
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« Reply #200 on: May 22, 2011, 09:04:47 PM »
Sometimes the story is a bit too "epic" for its own good. That's what your journal's for though, I've gone to it a few times to refresh my memory [or expand my knowledge] of who someone is and what they're up to. That's basically what I'd suggest if you're a bit lost.
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« Reply #201 on: May 24, 2011, 12:42:15 PM »
I beat The Witcher 2.  It is, in my opinion, the best RPG to have come out in over half a decade.  There are many things the game does right, and few that it does wrong.  I'm going to make a small list of pluses and minuses.  There aren't any story spoilers:

+The best looking game I have ever seen (played the game on Ultra sans ubersampling).  The art style also successfully conveys a medieval feel.
+The combat mechanics are leaps and bounds ahead of its predecessor.  The combat feels like a hybrid between Batman:AA and 3D Zelda.  It isn't the deepest game in the world, but it is highly enjoyable.
+Choices that actually matter.  I can think off the top of my head at least four major decisions that directly affected the story.
+Delayed response on choices.  Decisions in act 1 might not reveal themselves until act 3.
+Hard choices.  There were a few instances where I spent a few minutes dwelling upon the outcome of my choices.
+The appearance of a loot table.  I beat The Witcher 1 with my default jacket and steel sword.  The game isn't Diablo, but I would parallel TW2's loot table is akin to the Baldur's Gate series where new items are somewhat sporadic, but they provide meaningful upgrades.  Crafting items and alchemy is also fun and rewarding.
+The game world does a good job of inviting the player to explore every nook and cranny, even if the only reward is some herbs.
+ The game is relatively bug and jank free (for me at least), which is a small miracle for a Euro RPG.

+/- The voice acting is a mixed bag.  Geralt, Iorveth and Zoltan have great VA, but everyone else ranges from 'very good' to 'laughable'
+/- The game is fairly short.  I beat it in about 25 hours, but there is a diverging point that drastically changes the second half of the game and lends itself to replayability.

- The last third of the game is disappointingly short, but the game still delivers a satisfying ending.
- The combat targeting system leaves alot to be desired.
- The skill tree is unbalanced.  One spell in particular makes the game a breeze once you level it up.
- The animation in cutscenes is laughably bad.

The Witcher 2 is not a perfect game, and there is room for improvement, but an Enhanced Edition that adds more content, polishes combat and rebalances the skill trees would make a great game even better.

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« Reply #202 on: May 24, 2011, 12:46:12 PM »
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+ The game is relatively bug and jank free (for me at least), which is a small miracle for a Euro RPG.

The only real problem I've run into is the game sporadically crashing to desktop. It's annoying, and forced me to save very often, but it's at least not a hard crash of the entire computer.
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« Reply #203 on: May 24, 2011, 12:49:41 PM »
Here's the only negative review so far, from Destructiod:

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While hardcore fans will likely dive into the game and have fun, those who don't feel that they should be made to pay for a game with their patience will be put off. 6/10

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« Reply #204 on: May 24, 2011, 12:51:36 PM »
Oh yeah, another minus:

The game's political story is sometimes too big for its own good.  There are tons of namedrops thrown around like water.  The main narrative is easy to follow, but adding King Queef from the Isles of Poopania can make things confusing.

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« Reply #205 on: May 24, 2011, 12:52:43 PM »
I ran into a really funny "bug"
in chapter 2 there's a sword fighting tournament you can enter. there are two dudes in there always fighting when you're not taking part. somehow they managed to get out of the tournament area and are just fighting their way around the camp. last i saw them they where up to where the king was sitting. pretty funny
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« Reply #206 on: May 24, 2011, 02:16:24 PM »
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A new Witcher game will be announced at E3 next month, developer CD Projekt has told Eurogamer.

Could it possibly be the mooted console version of The Witcher 2: Assassins of Kings? Senior producer Tomasz Gop wasn't giving much away, but did hint that CD Projekt might have good news for PlayStation 3 and Xbox 360 users.

"I can't say anything obviously for gazillions of reasons but it is a Witcher game, and I can say that console gamers might be interested in it," he explained.

One thing seems certain though – it won't be The Witcher 3.

"No, I'm not going to lie to you, we haven't started work on The Witcher 3," he said. "But it's possible we might do it in the future."

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« Reply #207 on: May 24, 2011, 02:19:20 PM »
Console peasants will finally get a chance to experience a good RPG instead of that crap Bioware shoves down their throats.  CDProjekt.  :bow2

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« Reply #208 on: May 24, 2011, 02:24:05 PM »
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A new Witcher game will be announced at E3 next month, developer CD Projekt has told Eurogamer.

Could it possibly be the mooted console version of The Witcher 2: Assassins of Kings? Senior producer Tomasz Gop wasn't giving much away, but did hint that CD Projekt might have good news for PlayStation 3 and Xbox 360 users.

"I can't say anything obviously for gazillions of reasons but it is a Witcher game, and I can say that console gamers might be interested in it," he explained.

One thing seems certain though – it won't be The Witcher 3.

"No, I'm not going to lie to you, we haven't started work on The Witcher 3," he said. "But it's possible we might do it in the future."

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Witcher 2: Enhanced Edition?! :omg
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« Reply #210 on: May 24, 2011, 05:11:16 PM »
I ran into a really funny "bug"
in chapter 2 there's a sword fighting tournament you can enter. there are two dudes in there always fighting when you're not taking part. somehow they managed to get out of the tournament area and are just fighting their way around the camp. last i saw them they where up to where the king was sitting. pretty funny

haha yeah I got that too



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« Reply #211 on: May 24, 2011, 06:08:49 PM »
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A new Witcher game will be announced at E3 next month, developer CD Projekt has told Eurogamer.

Could it possibly be the mooted console version of The Witcher 2: Assassins of Kings? Senior producer Tomasz Gop wasn't giving much away, but did hint that CD Projekt might have good news for PlayStation 3 and Xbox 360 users.

"I can't say anything obviously for gazillions of reasons but it is a Witcher game, and I can say that console gamers might be interested in it," he explained.

One thing seems certain though – it won't be The Witcher 3.

"No, I'm not going to lie to you, we haven't started work on The Witcher 3," he said. "But it's possible we might do it in the future."

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Witcher 2: Enhanced Edition?! :omg

If not, you know it's coming just like the original Witcher.  I think I'll hold off until it comes out.  AMD should have their shit together by then and release drivers that'll allow me to play this at 60fps.
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« Reply #212 on: May 25, 2011, 04:52:01 PM »
AMD hotfix is out.  Crossfire support for Witcher 2.

Now let's see how long I can hold out.  I keep telling myself to wait until the limited edition comes out or a price drop but I might cave in as soon as my summer vacation starts.
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« Reply #213 on: May 25, 2011, 07:05:20 PM »
AMD hotfix is out.  Crossfire support for Witcher 2.

Now let's see how long I can hold out.  I keep telling myself to wait until the limited edition comes out or a price drop but I might cave in as soon as my summer vacation starts.

Is this game relatively well put together precluding the need for an "Enhanced Edition" to make to it worthwhile (not to say it's not gonna get patched and expanded with better deals down the road, but you can say that about anything)

I've been reading as little as possible on this, but it doesn't seem like it needs a fundamental fix like OG Witcher 1
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« Reply #214 on: May 25, 2011, 07:17:42 PM »
I've been playing it and I think its pretty janky in a lot of ways but its janky in a way that I don't think will be fixed by patches necessarily. I still like it but Real Talk.

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« Reply #215 on: May 25, 2011, 11:24:13 PM »
I've been trying to avoid reading or watching too much about Witcher 2 so when I do get it I'll go in fresh but it does seem like the most common complaints I've seen are the steep learning curve, the unforgiving combat at the beginning, and the story drop off towards the end.  I'm not sure if an enhanced edition would necessarily correct any of that but I'm going to try to hold out and see if there's any rumblings of something to that effect at E3 this year, but I'm not holding out hope.  It's way too early for them to be talking about and enhanced version.
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« Reply #216 on: May 25, 2011, 11:27:46 PM »
I've been trying to avoid reading or watching too much about Witcher 2 so when I do get it I'll go in fresh but it does seem like the most common complaints I've seen are the steep learning curve, the unforgiving combat at the beginning, and the story drop off towards the end.  I'm not sure if an enhanced edition would necessarily correct any of that but I'm going to try to hold out and see if there's any rumblings of something to that effect at E3 this year, but I'm not holding out hope.  It's way too early for them to be talking about and enhanced version.

The combat in theory is cool but in practice its really flawed. It's not because its difficult. Its just not great for a number of reasons.

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« Reply #217 on: May 25, 2011, 11:32:11 PM »
Hmm.  As someone that didn't care too much for the first Witcher, I really wish there was a demo of this so I could see if the combat is something I could live with.
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« Reply #218 on: May 26, 2011, 08:59:53 AM »
The combat isn't perfect, but compared to the first game it is a massive improvement.
The learning curve isn't too bad.  Just don't stand next to four enemies and you won't die often.
The story ends on a low key, but it still has a satisfying conclusion.  The main story arc is completed, but alot of new threads are left hanging.  If you are expecting some kind of 'epic' ending, then there will be disappointment.  The finale reminds me alot of Fallout 1 where
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.  I really appreciated such a thing.

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« Reply #219 on: May 26, 2011, 09:04:27 AM »
Got my 'holy shit edition' but the stone head of Geralt busted through a bit of the packaging in shipping  :-\

Still am anxious to start playing this Memorial Day vacay.
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« Reply #220 on: May 26, 2011, 09:20:57 AM »
I was really liking the game but then i started playing L.A Noire and couldn't put that down. I was at the beginning of Chapter 2, and now i'm not feeling it. Maybe i need to start it over.

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« Reply #221 on: May 26, 2011, 10:27:43 AM »
problem with the combat I find is that it starts out difficult and once you level up your shield spell (Quen) it basically becomes a cakewalk.

it feels great for an action rpg, but it isn't really balanced and any complexity or depth goes out the window because you can mash the attack buttons and plough through everything with Quen power.

I feel the combat system would've benefited if they omitted the shield power altogether from the game and  also not let the block move be governed by vigor points (also allow parry from all directions from the start.). so in effect you wouldn't be decimated if you're surrounded by 2 enemies and you wouldn't feel OP because of  the Quen (shield power)

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« Reply #222 on: May 26, 2011, 10:56:24 AM »
I ran into a really funny "bug"
in chapter 2 there's a sword fighting tournament you can enter. there are two dudes in there always fighting when you're not taking part. somehow they managed to get out of the tournament area and are just fighting their way around the camp. last i saw them they where up to where the king was sitting. pretty funny

haha yeah I got that too

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Re: The Witcher 2: ASSASSINS OF KINGS
« Reply #223 on: May 26, 2011, 12:06:13 PM »
I was really liking the game but then i started playing L.A Noire and couldn't put that down. I was at the beginning of Chapter 2, and now i'm not feeling it. Maybe i need to start it over.

I had the same issue. I would suggest the opposite. To keep on pushing forward. Because the game starts off really slow as you have to watch lots of cutscenes.

And for what its worth while I don't think the combat is great, its no worse and probably a good deal better than anything in the Elder Scrolls Universe. It's serviceable enough.
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« Reply #224 on: May 26, 2011, 05:27:46 PM »
man they really have to do something drastic if they want Elder Scrolls combat to stand up in the wake of Witcher 2 or even DA2. Problem is I can't see any way in which first-person melee combat doesn't suck.

it just sucks, you can't dress it up-- sorry Skyrim

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« Reply #225 on: May 27, 2011, 11:34:17 PM »
The game loses steam in the second chapter. The story gets sidetracked a bunch and I just don't really like the setting as much as Flotsam.

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« Reply #226 on: May 28, 2011, 01:26:41 PM »
http://www.tvn24.pl/0,1704729,0,1,wiedzmin--ipad-i-zepsute-pioro,wiadomosc.html

Obama received a copy of The Witcher 2 from the Polish prime minister.  :bow2

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« Reply #227 on: May 28, 2011, 01:37:45 PM »
"Obama endorses pornographic video game!"  :teehee

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« Reply #228 on: May 28, 2011, 05:59:25 PM »
1.1 patch came out. All DRM from non-GOG version is gone, giving a boost to framerate.
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« Reply #229 on: May 28, 2011, 07:29:51 PM »
Finished the game. Really enjoyed it. Biggest flaw I could find was that I was constantly having to try really hard to keep up with the story. Hopefully a replay will help with that

However... is there not a new game +? I can't find one and would be a shame if there wasn't.

Definitely a GOTY contender.
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« Reply #230 on: May 29, 2011, 05:08:06 AM »
Finished it also. Little disappointed with the combat losing some semblance of depth and skill the further you get in. I only had to adopt differing tactics for fights what, 3 times in the game? And they were all in the first chapter.

The final chapter was the weakest of the three, I feel, though mainly because the locale wasn't up to par in comparison to the other two, which were amazing. The game starts out so strong with its settings: a castle town siege; a bustling rural village - just beautifully realised. The game's low fantasy, nordic world is a joy to behold. Flotsam just looks lived in. One of the game's greatest strengths is that you can believe in its locales, more so than any cRPG since I think.


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« Reply #231 on: May 29, 2011, 10:56:57 AM »
I just beat the prologue and started the first chapter... really liking the game so far. Some random thoughts:

-I run it at 1280x720 high, and it still looks fantastic. 1920x1080 high chugs my computer too much :(
-The combat is a LOT more difficult than the first game. The fight in the courtyard I died like 10 times before bringing the difficulty down to Easy  :-\
-I really wish there was a mob-control style attack like the first game (there might be one but I haven't gotten it yet)...
-You pretty much need to have played the first game to have any idea wtf is going on with the story and the world.
-I started with my savegame from the original game, but I haven't really noticed any effect of doing this. In the first game, I basically told Triss to fuck off and hooked up with Shani, but here in the beginning I start the game with Triss nakey in the camp.
-My biggest complaint: The movement is still a bit sluggish. It feels almost "grid-based", and it's easy to get stuck on the environment. Wish they made the movement a bit smoother.
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« Reply #232 on: May 29, 2011, 12:40:28 PM »
the thing i liked the most about the game was that it accomplished "shades of gray" better than a lot of games I've played. At no point in the game I was forced with a choice that I thought was a no-brainer. Each time there would be clear pros and cons for each decision and I had to think about what this character would do given the context so far instead of just going with the simple "good" or "bad" choice.

For example:
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If you side with Roche in Chapter 1 you will be presented with a choice of letting him kill King Henselt or letting him live. Now this sounds like a clear "good" or "bad" choice but you have to think about the context. Henselt executed Roche's men because he believed they where a part of a conspiracy to usurp his rule. This entire time Henselt has been trying to move forward his agenda for the greater good of hid Kingdom which in term would benefit the people the live in it. So sure he's a bastard for executing Roche's men but at the same time Roche was trying to undercut Henselt which is a pretty shitty move on his part. Given the time period and context - neither man is the obvious good guy or bad guy. Also, to let Roche kill him would make Geralt no better than Letho and would in tern also turn him into the very thing he's been trying to prove he isn't - a kingslayer.
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You don't get that kind of decision making from most other games.
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« Reply #233 on: May 29, 2011, 12:49:29 PM »
Yeah, I agree with pretty much everything that's been said so far. Witcher 2 is a big step up from Witcher 1 in a ton of ways, but it's still got it's issues here and there. Nothing that really ruins the experience, but they're there. Some of the issues can fixed with a series of patches, but others can't. However, seeing how CD Projekt went from the first game to the Enhanced Edition to the second game, over the span of less than four years, really give me a lot of hope [and hype] for what they've got planned next.

I think they've got a really talented group of guys who are focused on pushing the boundaries of the modern RPG genre with Witcher 2 and I see nothing that will keep them from doing that again.
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« Reply #234 on: May 29, 2011, 04:59:01 PM »
Starting my second playthrough and I first did the Troll Trouble dlc quest. It's pretty good! Gives a decent early steel sword. Also didn't even know trolls would be in the game that early.

Something I missed the first time is if you go to Lobiden near midnight all the village inhabitants gather around the fire and Charob tells stories. It's pretty cool.

Flotsam is just such an amazing location. It's the kind of video game location that I could spent house just walking around exploring the little nooks to fine secrets.
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« Reply #235 on: May 30, 2011, 11:35:23 AM »
Chapter 2 spoiler:

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I let the peasants have Prince Stennis. I don't know if he actually poisoned Saskia or not, but the dude was a total jerkhole and a spoiled brat. Feels good man.
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Unrelated: Anybody been able to download the Troll Trouble DLC with a Steam copy of the game?
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« Reply #236 on: May 30, 2011, 11:52:00 AM »
troll trouble was included the recent patch
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« Reply #237 on: May 30, 2011, 12:01:52 PM »
Chapter 2 spoiler:

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I let the peasants have Prince Stennis. I don't know if he actually poisoned Saskia or not, but the dude was a total jerkhole and a spoiled brat. Feels good man.
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I read that spoiler and was like "wtf, I don't remember that quest - and I finished the game!"

Then I remembered that it's a completely different experience in Ch2 depending on your choices in Ch1.

Also, anyone ever gonna try an Insane runthrough of this? I could 100% all the achievements were it not for that one.   

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« Reply #238 on: May 30, 2011, 12:04:24 PM »
troll trouble was included the recent patch

Okay, I found it now. The DLC downloader on the launcher was giving me problems, but I guess that was because I already had the DLC. Anyway, it's fine now.

I read that spoiler and was like "wtf, I don't remember that quest - and I finished the game!"

Then I remembered that it's a completely different experience in Ch2 depending on your choices in Ch1.

That's awesome. I'll definitely have to play through the game again with the different Chapter 1 choice. Also pick up the Troll Trouble quest.
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