Beezy, your days spent worrying about X360 storage space are OV-AH!

[The Fake Shemp]

Microsoft Xbox 360
You can have 2 USB flash drive devices connected to the console at a time, (up to 16GB each) enabling up to 32GB of simultaneous storage.
20 minutes ago from web

Microsoft Xbox 360
April 6th a system update over Xbox LIVE will allow USB flash drives to be used for storing profiles, game saves, demos & more on your 360.

I hope this works for HD movie rips

[MCD]

HD movie rips? this won't add mkv playback or something.

[The Fake Shemp]

Don't the AVIs have to be under 4GB or something?

[MCD]

oh.

well i don't know about that.

[Beezy]

Microsoft still deserves to get monkey pissed on, but this is cool. 16GB is more than what the fucking 20GB HD lets you use.

[Bebpo]

But you can't use this for game installs?

Aren't those the only things that take up HD space really?

[demi]

Nobody knows what you can do with it yet.

[Ichirou]

This is all part of the plan for the 360 slim.  I bet the 360 slim won't let you use regular memory units, instead you'll have USB ports.

[Beezy]

But you can't use this for game installs?

Aren't those the only things that take up HD space really?

The Arcade games are getting a lot bigger too. If I can't save those, installs, or DLC, then this is worthless.

[iconoclast]

I thought they already said you can use it for game installs? You just need to have the disc in the system of course.

Once the update occurs, Xbox 360 owners will be able to download Xbox Live Arcade games, Xbox Live Indie games, Games on Demand, DLC and Title Updates to the storage device. "USB storage devices may, however, have far greater memory capacity than MUs (at the date of writing, the largest MU is 512 MB), and may therefore support previously infeasible operations-such as installation of a full disc-based title." That's right, you can also store disc-based games to the USB device; however, it will require the disc to be in the tray for authentication, identical to the current functionality.

http://www.joystiq.com/2010/03/18/xbox-360-gaining-usb-storage-support-in-2010-update/

Then again I guess this isn't straight from MS, but I'd  be surprised if you couldn't have games installed on them.

[Stoney Mason]

I don't think anybody knows yet although if it did game installs its weird that Microsoft didn't mention it in the information they released today which makes me skeptical it will.

If it does game installs, that's an amazing update. If it doesn't then I could give a crap about the update.

[Bebpo]

If it does game installs I'll be pretty stoked since I still have a launch 20giger and can only have 1 or 2 games installed at a time.

[brawndolicious]

If it does game installs I'll be pretty stoked since I still have a launch 20giger and can only have 1 or 2 games installed at a time.

they should just give us those new 250 GB's.  as reparations.

[OptimoPeach]

(up to 16GB each)

I knew it was too much to hope for that I might be able to use my external

[maxy]

But you can't use this for game installs?

Aren't those the only things that take up HD space really?

Nobody knows what you can do with it yet.

I don't think anybody knows yet although if it did game installs its weird that Microsoft didn't mention it in the information they released today which makes me skeptical it will.

If it does game installs, that's an amazing update. If it doesn't then I could give a crap about the update.

In a conversation with Joystiq, Hryb informed us that all data will be transferable to the USB device, except for installed games -- users will need to re-install those directly to the USB device once more. He assured us, however, that, "If you've got a 16GB and you only want to use 8, you can use the UI and throttle it back." Further, he reiterated to Joystiq that while this branded device is certainly one option, other Flash drives (including those larger than 16GB)

http://www.joystiq.com/2010/03/26/xbox-360-branded-16gb-drives-from-sandisk-coming-in-may/

[Stoney Mason]

But you can't use this for game installs?

Aren't those the only things that take up HD space really?

Nobody knows what you can do with it yet.

I don't think anybody knows yet although if it did game installs its weird that Microsoft didn't mention it in the information they released today which makes me skeptical it will.

If it does game installs, that's an amazing update. If it doesn't then I could give a crap about the update.

In a conversation with Joystiq, Hryb informed us that all data will be transferable to the USB device, except for installed games -- users will need to re-install those directly to the USB device once more. He assured us, however, that, "If you've got a 16GB and you only want to use 8, you can use the UI and throttle it back." Further, he reiterated to Joystiq that while this branded device is certainly one option, other Flash drives (including those larger than 16GB)

http://www.joystiq.com/2010/03/26/xbox-360-branded-16gb-drives-from-sandisk-coming-in-may/

Nice. Game installs was all I wanted. Look's like I'll have to pick up some 16 GB flash drives.

[Brehvolution]

Shit yeah!!!

360

[OptimoPeach]

Wait, so according to that last article the 16gb limit was in reference to the Xbox-branded flash drives only? Does this mean there is no limit?

[Brehvolution]

16GB limit per device. Limit of 2 devices.

[Brehvolution]

Now all I need is a multi disc changer for the 360. 

[OptimoPeach]

Further, he reiterated to Joystiq that while this branded device is certainly one option, other Flash drives (including those larger than 16GB) will work in the same capacity.

edit: I meant the total size of the device, not space allocated to the device by the Xbox. What I'm wondering is if I can pop in my external and have 16gb partitioned that I can use instead of having to buy a flash drive

[maxy]

Total size is not limited,but 360 will allocate 16 GB max
The rest can be used as before.

[Beezy]

Further, he reiterated to Joystiq that while this branded device is certainly one option, other Flash drives (including those larger than 16GB) will work in the same capacity.

edit: I meant the total size of the device, not space allocated to the device by the Xbox. What I'm wondering is if I can pop in my external and have 16gb partitioned that I can use instead of having to buy a flash drive

Yeah, but they said using HDs is much slower than using flashdrives.

[The Fake Shemp]

I wonder if games will load faster off the flash drive than the X360 HD

[brawndolicious]

I have a 16 GB usb drive that I bought on black friday for $15 so this has some use to me for a couple of game installs, but it seems like if you want to install every game you have then you should just get the new 250 GB hard drive.

[demi]

I wonder if games will load faster off the flash drive than the X360 HD

No

[SantaC]

so why just cap it to 16GB? I have a 32 one. And there are usb cards up to 256GB these days

[Vizzys]

so why just cap it to 16GB? I have a 32 one. And there are usb cards up to 256GB these days

so they can continue to sell hard drives

[drew]

i mean couldnt you just hook up a terabyte hard drive if they didnt cap it?

[OptimoPeach]

Yeah, they make wayyy too much money off those HDDs to provide a cheaper alternative. Just wish the cap was at least double what it is. Oh well, better than what I have now

[naff]

I wonder if games will load faster off the flash drive than the X360 HD

They should be slower, limited by the shitty speeds of USB 2.0, if it was an internal flash drive that would be different. I'm wondering if the drives will have to be formatted as FAT which means you won't be able to have single files on there greater than ~4gig which would make most games unable to be installed on the drive.

Nearly all small external flash drives (usb keys) are formatted as FAT.

[The Sceneman]

Another question would be if game installs are actually one big file or a few smaller ones?

This will be a sweet feature regardless, I want to piss on my 20 gig HDD

[demi]

Another question would be if game installs are actually one big file or a few smaller ones?

This will be a sweet feature regardless, I want to piss on my 20 gig HDD

It will be one huge file, like always.

[maxy]

Update will be live in about 3 hours...

[maxy]

Update is out.

FAQ

http://www.xbox.com/en-US/storage/default.htm

[demi]

Wow, that doesnt help at all. It's one giant advertisement.

[maxy]

Yeah...lol

Buy our stick...please

But i would avoid cheap flash

[pilonv1]

update is live. no difference to my life as I'm rolling with 120gb

[AdmiralViscen]

Someone in the GAF thread said that even that one company that cracked the 360 and enabled SD cards on it a year or so ago was capped at 16GB. There is some built-in bottleneck.


Anyone tried this yet? Does it actually give you 16GB or does it wind up being a useable 10GB with the 360 formatting?

[AdmiralViscen]

It only takes away 512MB and they tack it on after you choose how much you want to reserve.

I used a SanDisk Cruzer and it says it says it meets performance recommendations.

[MCD]

i used a no name 16gig usb and it met performance recommendations.

[AdmiralViscen]

I was playing a game and I hit guide and pressed Y to return to dash and now it's just sitting on a black screen. Cool. I'm not even using the drive.

[maxy]

Apparently update is re-enabling install feature on banned consoles...

GT and saves are still corrupt.

[maxy]

Tested it on Toshiba 8GB stick and it works flawlessly

Played GTAIV:Episodes...runs like crazy,much better than  20GB drive

Used fastest cars,maximum speed....no floating cars,no missing roads,no invisible obstacles

The Future
Solid state media






Prehistoric crap
Optical discs
HDD



Btw,if you want to test your stick,drive,etc go here

http://www.hdtune.com/

Small program,free trial-15 days

[Sho Nuff]

Wow just wow, wonder what other games have benefits from solid state installs.

Do I have to transfer my gamer profile over to the USB stick, or can I install what I want to the stick while keeping my main profile on the HDD?

[TakingBackSunday]

I'm assuming this has to be a FAT32 format?

[Stoney Mason]

http://www.xbox.com/en-US/storage

I have an unapproved small 4gb one currently which gives you the slow performance warning although I'll eventually get a 16GB "approved" one.



Seems to work fine otherwise though. Speed isn't too bad. There is a thread over on GAF where people have done a few time comparisons versus dvd, and hard drive.

[maxy]

I'm assuming this has to be a FAT32 format?

Nope,single file sizes are bigger than 4GB.

[TakingBackSunday]

Alright then help a bro out

I have a 500 gig western digital that I use for wii games, 400 some gigs dedicated to a WBFS parition and the remaining 80 is unformatted.  I know that if I plug it in to the 360 and select customize, I can make 16 of those 80 gigs allocated for the 360, but it gives me a message saying the 360 needs to format it.  Will that erase all of my wii games or just format the remaining 80 gigs thats unformatted?

[demi]

hahaha 400 gigs for wii games

[TakingBackSunday]

I will never be worried for space.  Besides, I used to only have 100 gigs dedicated to it with the rest being for laptop backups, but I won a 1TB hard drive a few months ago.  I use the 1TB one for my laptop now and use the 500 gig one exclusively for my Wii, for the most part.  I'd like to dedicate 16 gigs of it, though, to the 360.

[Stoney Mason]

Alright then help a bro out

I have a 500 gig western digital that I use for wii games, 400 some gigs dedicated to a WBFS parition and the remaining 80 is unformatted.  I know that if I plug it in to the 360 and select customize, I can make 16 of those 80 gigs allocated for the 360, but it gives me a message saying the 360 needs to format it.  Will that erase all of my wii games or just format the remaining 80 gigs thats unformatted?

I have an external drive that is like 75 gb and it just carved out the available space it needed. You may want to ask your question over at GAF though since there are more people over there.

[TakingBackSunday]

Banned.

And it told me it needed to format the entire device, saying it didn't recognize the format of the hdd.  Screw it, I'm moving all my wii games to my 1 TB for now, configuring the 500 gig'er for the 360, and reformatting the available space back to WBFS and moving the wii games back.  Goodbye, night ahead.

[demi]

Direct link for dirty pirates who got justifiably banned

Or legit people who have no internet

http://rapidshare.com/files/372747753/April2010-LiveUpdate.rar

[Stoney Mason]

All set now with the 16 gigs of storage. Obviously it would be much better if Microsoft just made the cap size unlimited but I'll take what I can get.

Like a lot of people I had a 20 gig unit and was always out of space and always deleting and installing games. Now between my original hard drive and the extra I have room for 3 full installs or 2 installs and 4 gigs of XBLA stuff.

Eventually I'll get a 16gb flash unit that is faster but for now I'm fine with the speed and reducing how loud the 360 is by playing off installed games.

[maxy]

Direct link for dirty pirates who got justifiably banned

Or legit people who have no internet

http://rapidshare.com/files/372747753/April2010-LiveUpdate.rar

Avatar stuff is missing,but it works...
To get the full update you have to connect to live,for now

[Beezy]

and 4 gigs of XBLA stuff.

XBLA games keep getting bigger. That's gonna fill up fast.

[chronovore]

All set now with the 16 gigs of storage. Obviously it would be much better if Microsoft just made the cap size unlimited but I'll take what I can get.

Like a lot of people I had a 20 gig unit and was always out of space and always deleting and installing games. Now between my original hard drive and the extra I have room for 3 full installs or 2 installs and 4 gigs of XBLA stuff.

Eventually I'll get a 16gb flash unit that is faster but for now I'm fine with the speed and reducing how loud the 360 is by playing off installed games.

Yeah, the lessened noise is what is really attractive in this whole picture.

I bought a 120GB HDD last April and have managed to fill all but 18GB with game installs and Rock Band DLC. My GTA IV folder is 10GB+ and I've got each of the RB games installed, plus I exported the RB1 songs to play in RB2. The available space, it goes away so fast.

16GB is not going to make a world of difference to me, but since I play at work and with friends, having the gamertag on a USB and even keeping some XBLA games on it is kind of exciting. I'm especially happy that I'm not going to have to replace my 512KB MU, which lately has been unable to reliable connect.

[AdmiralViscen]

haha, Brandnew is only back cuz he was banned at GAF?


Anyway on GAF they are saying that if you put your tag on a flash drive it lessens the uberload of your games library. Haven't tried it yet.

[Ichirou]

This is pretty sweet.