Stuff you don't get.

[Green Shinobi]

The thing is, that was always a real career plan until recent years. My friend making $57k was a psych major. Another friend making a great salary was a philosophy major. A third friend who was making more than both of them was an art history major. Lucky for them, they were able to get in with decent companies before the recession, and they've proven their worth since then.

A business degree is great, but for an entry-level office job, will there really be any tangible difference between a business major and a sociology major? Hell no. Maybe the business guy will have used Excel a bit more, but it will take all of one night of studying for the soc major to catch up.

[Kestastrophe]

True story: the department I work in has stopped interviewing business school candidates. Having trekked through the hardly rigorous or useful coursework myself, I agree with that decision. Business schools should require at least basic calculus and more rigorous computer competency, both of which are not standard across programs. I would agree with GS's statement about sociology vs. business, the difference is probably negligable in terms of skill set.

[Green Shinobi]

What department do you work in, and what skills are necessary to perform an entry-level job there?

[Kestastrophe]

I work on a modelling team where we model consumption data and project sales volumes (in a nutshell), which requires extensive knowledge of mathematics as well as some programming.

[Green Shinobi]

How far into calculus would you have to go to be able to do that? Also, what programming languages?

I ask because I'm thinking of trying to retrain for a more technical field at some point in the future.

[Kestastrophe]

A full calculus background (typically I, II, and III) and Differential Equations helps. We obviously use Econometrics for modelling, I think there is a good text by Greene if interested. Also, economics knowledge is required/helpful. Send me a pm and I can recommend you texts on all of the above, or just grab the open coursework from MIT's website.

[tiesto]

-Gym junkies

I find it pretty addicting to go to the gym, mixing up routines and trying out different machines... I'd spend a lot more time there if I didn't have to work all the time.

[tehjaybo]

Might be the first thread where Drew and I see eye-to-eye on an issue. 

Guns

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[muckhole]

While I do get why this exists, different strokes and all, it still blows my mind that it does:



NASCAR branded Harlequin Romance novels.

Someone should be forced to read it for the borecast.

[tiesto]

How many times a week Tiesto?

Only 3 times, for about 1:15 each time... I'd totally go more if I had the time, of course.

[Robo]

While I do get why this exists, different strokes and all, it still blows my mind that it does:

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NASCAR branded Harlequin Romance novels.

Someone should be forced to read it for the borecast.

Oh my god, there's no way that's real.

Edit: http://www.amazon.com/Speed-Dating-Harlequin-Nascar-Warren/dp/0373217692/  

[Fresh Prince]

The stuff I don't get about gym junkies boils down to do these things:
- looking fit rather than being bit
- trying to look huge
since you're neither of those things I wouldn't say you're a gym junkie

[chronovore]

With any luck, I will be buying this:

FOUL: Off-topic post. This should be in the "Stuff you will get" thread, or if you'd waited a bit, one of the "WDYB" threads. 

[Boogie]

Guns are for pussies.

Naw, guns are frickin' cool.

But only for those of us authorized by law to use them.

Why not?  Handguns can hurt people just as well as a rifle, especially at a distance of 15 ft.  Plus they are easier to store. 

hahahahahahahahahahaha no.

[Boogie]

Why people who take majors like Political and Sociology just expect a $60,000 a year job just waiting for them when they graduate.

 
 

[Powerslave]

I for one can't wait to read Boogie's upcoming 12 pages long banter about the damage difference between rifles and handguns.

[Boogie]

I for one can't wait to read Boogie's upcoming 12 pages long banter about the damage difference between rifles and handguns.

Only if Teh Business is lookin' for a fight.   j/k

 

[Madrun Badrun]

hahahahahahahahahahaha no.

seriously it's true....


... in Halo 1.

[Boogie]

How often do cops shoot rifles?

Up until about six months before I joined, every single officer in the history of the RCMP was trained and qualified on rifles.

The more insightful question is "what is the greatest fear of a cop who patrols a rural area?"

And the answer is "responding to a call and driving up the looong open driveway from the highway to the house, and being worried about the possibility of the unstable fucker with a rifle taking me out before I can even think about drawing my sidearm"

Or, put another way, to change your statement of "Handguns can hurt people just as well as a rifle, especially at a distance of 15 ft." to make it truthful:

"The only chance in Satan's fiery hell that someone with a handgun has a chance of winning an encounter with someone with a rifle, is if they are within a distance of 15ft."  And even then, the guy with the rifle only needs to scored one shot to win, while the guy with the handgun might have to unload half a mag before the other guy drops.

[Ichirou]

You need to watch Fistful of Dollars, Boogie.  That has the final answer to the rifles vs. guns conundrum.

[EmCeeGrammar]

How often do cops shoot rifles?

Up until about six months before I joined, every single officer in the history of the RCMP was trained and qualified on rifles.

The more insightful question is "what is the greatest fear of a cop who patrols a rural area?"

And the answer is "responding to a call and driving up the looong open driveway from the highway to the house, and being worried about the possibility of the unstable fucker with a rifle taking me out before I can even think about drawing my sidearm"

Or, put another way, to change your statement of "Handguns can hurt people just as well as a rifle, especially at a distance of 15 ft." to make it truthful:

"The only chance in Satan's fiery hell that someone with a handgun has a chance of winning an encounter with someone with a rifle, is if they are within a distance of 15ft."  And even then, the guy with the rifle only needs to scored one shot to win, while the guy with the handgun might have to unload half a mag before the other guy drops.

Videogames taught me all I have to do is put the cursor on your head, doesn't matter what gun!

[Powerslave]

Edit:  I like how Boogie phrased his, "hardly ever" answer. 

"Hey Boogie, what kind of gun are you equipped with?"

Boogie: *writes an in-depth 8 paragraphed post explaining in careful detail the entire catalogue of guns Mounties used throughout history with random anecdotes scattered all over the place*


"Hey Boogie, how are your working shifts usually planned?"

Boogie: *Publishes 6 books*

[Boogie]

"Hey Boogie, what kind of gun are you equipped with?"

Boogie: *writes an in-depth 8 paragraphed post explaining in careful detail the entire catalogue of guns Mounties used throughout history with random anecdotes scattered all over the place*


"Hey Boogie, how are your working shifts usually planned?"

Boogie: *Publishes 6 books*

Oh, I'm sorry.  I forgot your brain can't process information more than 2 sentences at a time.

 

[Boogie]

Powerslaved. 

Don't wake the dragon, dude.

[Powerslave]

Boogie u got mad at a joke post

[Boogie]

Boogie u got mad at a joke post

dude, there's only 3 ways to deal with your shit:

1) Ignore you.  This is an increasingly popular option.
2) Deflect via flirty gay subtext.  Effective, but it gets tiring.
3) Beat the shit out of your annoying schtick.

So don't get all teary-eyed just because people get tired of picking option 1 and 2.

[Boogie]

More of a gecko, isn't it?

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[Powerslave]

yup, seriously raged would be more appropriate than mad

[chronovore]

There's a stuff you will get thread?

No, but this is the "Stuff you don't get" thread.

[drew]

"The only chance in Satan's fiery hell that someone with a handgun has a chance of winning an encounter with someone with a rifle, is if they are within a distance of 15ft."  And even then, the guy with the rifle only needs to scored one shot to win, while the guy with the handgun might have to unload half a mag before the other guy drops.

yeah this is bullshit

people need to stop projecting their own set of skills onto everybody else

what handgun do you carry anyways?

[Phoenix Dark]

I'm guessing drew watches too much 24

[drew]

you need to stop projecting your shitty taste in television onto others

[Green Shinobi]

The sport of curling.

[Powerslave]

Time to be the 9th person to ignore Powerlame.

you fucking liar :'(

[Powerslave]

awww this is so heartwarming

[Boogie]

Good thing he's not an American cop or he might go beat up some black people.  Who do Canadian cops take out their daddy issues on?  Inuits?

Polish Immigrants.

[T234]

guys that dont like guns

I love all guns (constant watch those shows on the Military channel) and their mechanics and the testosterone but I hate handgun and automatic gun ownership.

You must HATE Kentuckybore then.

[elektrikluv]

I also hate guns (and especially gun ownership). But I'm European, that's to be expected.

[Great Rumbler]

I also hate guns (and especially gun ownership). But I'm European, that's to be expected.

Yes, it's hardly surprising that someone from Europe would hate FREEDOM.

[drew]

you dont hate gun ownership, you just hate the fact that idiots get their hands on guns

[elektrikluv]

Well I'm not fond of the idea of anyone getting their hands on guns, besides law enforcement and whatnot.

[brob]

I don't get Thailand.... All the chicks have dicks and the authorities are monkeys.  

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[drew]

"whatnot" being the bad guys, because even if you made it illegal to own a legal gun theres always the black market, yeah that sounds like a great idea, i cant wait till some guy breaks into our house and makes my family rape eachother at gunpoint before shooting us all in the head, with no way of stopping it

[Human Snorenado]

Rush; people who like Rush.

[Boogie]

"whatnot" being the bad guys, because even if you made it illegal to own a legal gun theres always the black market, yeah that sounds like a great idea, i cant wait till some guy breaks into our house and makes my family rape eachother at gunpoint before shooting us all in the head, with no way of stopping it

It's true, this happens all the time in England.

[brob]

In danger of some real talk, the proliferation of guns is very serious issue and in an ideal situation it would be possible but difficult to get a firearm that is not used for hunting. The situation in America now though is so beyond that point that everyone should just be given a gun and assumed armed and dangerous at any point.

Criminals use knives and shit over here. I've seen a gun once. So the situation in Europe is not comparable to America. I tend to think of it along the lines of polygamous relationships, which are common in part of Asia, and just not give a shit as it doesn't concern me.

[drew]

whats wrong with going to the range and practice your shooting skills? isnt that better than killing defenseless animals? (im all for the hunting of animals that can kill you though, like bears, the pride these hunting assholes take in shooting a turkey is disgusting)

[elektrikluv]

Yeah there's always the black market, which isn't as accessible as when it is legal. When people are using guns, people are more likely to die, mortality rate for a gunshot to the heart is 84%, knife is 30%.

America has practically the highest homicide rate in the developed world (2 or 4 times higher than most), with handgun homicides accounting for the majority of the difference.

I don't like guns, I'm glad I live in a country where they are outlawed and the self-defense argument is redundant.

I'm not going to get caught up in a guns debate with Americans. Good for you if you like your guns, you live in a country where you're allowed to own them.

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[Eric P]

whyzit gotta be a black market?

[drew]

yeah BUT they would still be accessible to the bad guys, whereas to a regular person they wouldnt be accessible at ALL, how prolific they are in the black market doesnt matter in the end

[Smooth Groove]

Yeah, elektrikluv, what's up with the stereotyping?  Whites buy guns too.

[elektrikluv]

yeah BUT they would still be accessible to the bad guys, whereas to a regular person they wouldnt be accessible at ALL, how prolific they are in the black market doesnt matter in the end

So just because something can always be acquired illegally it should be made legal?

At the end of the day, the statistics speak for themselves. More people die due to gun crime in America.

[The Fake Shemp]

Yes, but we have better quality health care, so it evens out.

[drew]

So just because something can always be acquired illegally it should be made legal?

drugs? no. guns? yes.

id take the option of more good guys being able to protect eachother with the negative of them being more common

what youre not getting is that the vast majority of that murder rate is from thugs killing other thugs

At the end of the day, the statistics speak for themselves. More people die due to gun crime in America.

at the end of the day we will still have more gangs and worse ghettos

[The Fake Shemp]

Yeah, you can come in here with your fancy charts and high-falutin' "statistics", but what do you tell honest Americans who are stuck in an inner city that is nothing more than a glorified Sergio Leone western with black people? We need our guns to fight off the guys with guns! It's just science.

Maybe if you guys had guns, we wouldn't have to police the world.

[elektrikluv]

Yeah thugs killing other thugs because they have the means to do it. A death is still a death.

And guns are only used as self-defense in America in 0.2% of crimes, 0.8% in violent crimes. Oh and a large percentage of that small percentage is police officers use. Clearly they're not really doing their job and are predominantly being used for criminal purposes, of which the rate of homicide by gun would be much lower if the guns weren't actually legal. Regardless of who is killing who. If your theory about the bad guys acquiring them regardless if they're outlawed was true, then surely the statistics would be more level with the rest of the developed world as far as gun crime was concerned, because thugs and ghettos exist everywhere, and even if there are more in America it would not be enough to explain such a vast disparity in figures.

[The Fake Shemp]

If I killed a thug, would I report it? Nope - that's murder! So your stats are obviously bunk. Tell me another one.

[Bloodwake]

I'm on the fence. I feel that there is a solution for living in an area in which I feel I would need protection: move.

But, target practice is fun.

[brob]

If I killed a thug, would I report it? Nope - that's murder! So your stats are obviously bunk. Tell me another one.

But are you a thug yourself willco? Because that's what we're talking about - thug on thug crime.