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Monster Hunter invades Peace Walker? WTF?
« on: April 07, 2010, 11:39:20 AM »
I'm watching the late night news here in Tokyo, and they just reported that Kojima held a press conference today about Monster Hunter being in MGS Peace Walker... huh.
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« Reply #1 on: April 07, 2010, 11:45:52 AM »
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« Reply #2 on: April 07, 2010, 12:35:05 PM »
Know I care about Monster Hunter.

:bow Kojima :bow2

Also here is the trailer: http://www.konami.jp/mgs_pw/jp/movie/pw_movie_mh_x.swf
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« Reply #3 on: April 07, 2010, 12:36:32 PM »
[youtube=560,345]3fJXHXs5TvY[/youtube]

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« Reply #4 on: April 07, 2010, 12:44:51 PM »
Big Boss fighting dinosaurs :bow2 game of the year.



FUCK YEAH!!!!
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« Reply #5 on: April 07, 2010, 02:08:53 PM »
kinda cool as an extra mode.

all the advertising shit they threw in (doritos, axe body spray) is completely fucking distinguished mentally-challenged though.  Shameless bullshit.

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« Reply #6 on: April 07, 2010, 02:16:37 PM »
ya know i would say that this makes no sense but the guy has punched mario in the face,punched optimus prime in the face and fought cartoon monkeys so yea...
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« Reply #7 on: April 07, 2010, 03:33:37 PM »
HOW IS THIS POSSIBLE

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« Reply #8 on: April 07, 2010, 04:30:48 PM »
all the advertising shit they threw in (doritos, axe body spray) is completely fucking distinguished mentally-challenged though.  Shameless bullshit.

They already did that in MGS3/4 and no one complained.

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« Reply #9 on: April 07, 2010, 04:35:48 PM »
all the advertising shit they threw in (doritos, axe body spray) is completely fucking distinguished mentally-challenged though.  Shameless bullshit.

They already did that in MGS3/4 and no one complained.

I did, the MGS3/4 advertising shit was distinguished mentally-challenged (especially in MGS4 with the fucking iPods and Otacon sucking off the BLU-RAY DISK while you spent 5 minutes installing the next act)
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« Reply #10 on: April 07, 2010, 05:00:43 PM »
all the advertising shit they threw in (doritos, axe body spray) is completely fucking distinguished mentally-challenged though.  Shameless bullshit.

They already did that in MGS3/4 and no one complained.


I sure did about the ipod in MGS4. I don't even know what was being advertised in MGS3 (calorie mate?  was i expected to pick up on that?) it was more subtle in both of those games.  

Doritos and Axe body spray just bring to mind distinguished mentally-challenged gamers.  All they need in there now is Mountain Dew...oh wait, they got that too!


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« Reply #11 on: April 07, 2010, 05:27:11 PM »
The advertising is fine and it kinda fits with the wacky jappy nature of the games.  Even in MGS1 you had people shitting their pants and Snake in a tuxedo and things like that.  In MGS2 they had video game magazines and shit like that.  You can be knocking on those swimsuit girl posters and hear a noise; Snake would even jack off to it.  It's to be expected.

this is the same series that had things like this as a bonus
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« Reply #12 on: April 07, 2010, 05:49:43 PM »
yeah i guess but this is just kinda obnoxious

i can see licensed magazines in magazine racks and wacky jappy stuff, but just throwing doritos and axe body spray into a game set in 1974 Costa Rica just seems like Kojima's lost any control and is just in full on "wacky" mode
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« Reply #13 on: April 07, 2010, 06:18:42 PM »
this isn't "wacky."  this is a "revenue stream." 

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« Reply #14 on: April 07, 2010, 06:40:22 PM »
It's a wacky revenue stream.
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« Reply #15 on: April 07, 2010, 06:58:34 PM »
OH NO DORITOS IN MY VIDYA GAME SOMEONE STOP THIS MADNESS!!!!!!
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« Reply #16 on: April 07, 2010, 07:03:50 PM »
I've heard rumors that it's impossible for this game to ever make money

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« Reply #17 on: April 07, 2010, 07:17:37 PM »
this isn't "wacky."  this is a "revenue stream." 

Wacky jappy is another breed.  It's code geass pizza hut type stuff.  There is no context for why the ads are there other than to make money.  But I don't get why you'd be upset about it.
 
I've heard rumors that it's impossible for this game to ever make money

it's a psp game

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« Reply #18 on: April 07, 2010, 07:18:15 PM »
this isn't "wacky."  this is a "revenue stream." 

Wacky jappy is another breed.  It's code geass pizza hut type stuff.  There is no context for why the ads are there other than to make money.  But I don't get why you'd be upset about it.
 
I've heard rumors that it's impossible for this game to ever make money

it's a psp game

With a staff of +100 to boot

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« Reply #19 on: April 07, 2010, 07:35:19 PM »
maybe kojipro will finally bankrupt konami and his next game will be hello kitty soccer adventure
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« Reply #20 on: April 07, 2010, 07:50:21 PM »
Peace Walker will end in a huge cliffhanger.  After it bombs, there will be the 3DS port of peace walker that includes "MGS3: The Movie" with it.  Then Kojima will announce an MMO Metal Gear; it gets cancelled.  No one hears from Kojima ever again.

Why would you need 100+ people to work on a PSP game?

98 pillow fluffers, Kojima, and the dramaturg who was fired.
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« Reply #21 on: April 07, 2010, 08:02:46 PM »
Why would you need 100+ people to work on a PSP game?

Kojima for some reason decided that this is MGS5, and the game he really wanted to make instead of MGS4, and therefore the best place for it is the PSP.

It's also got co-op where Snake and a bunch of masked dudes shoot laser beams at each other to turn invisible, cross the streams to explode, and shoot psychic lightning bolts at people. Then they trick enemies with cardboard cutouts and put on their inviso-blankets before sucking enemies up into the sky with balloons that go through ceilings so a magic invisible helicopter can pick them up and nobody else in the room notices.
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« Reply #22 on: April 07, 2010, 08:11:55 PM »
you forgot fighting dinosaurs


:bow peace walker :bow2

My only problem is really that it's on the PSP, or more that I still can't play PSP games on my PS3.

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« Reply #23 on: April 07, 2010, 08:16:07 PM »
oh and apparently now there's a mech building part where big boss goes into a hole and uses cards to build his own metal gears (pettrovich and otacon were apparently lying hacks for claiming to have designed Metal Gears, as well as mei ling for lying about creating the radar)

and you can put Wanzer parts in there from Front Mission, which reminds me that my FM5 disk broke about five hours in and I was really pissed about that because I never finished


edit also big boss apparently had terrible fashion sense back then

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« Reply #24 on: April 07, 2010, 08:16:48 PM »
I've heard rumors that it's impossible for this game to ever make money

I thought you meant "Monster Hunter in the market outside of Japan" and I thought, yeah, that's about right.

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« Reply #25 on: April 07, 2010, 08:27:08 PM »
can you actually control the metal gears you build?

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« Reply #26 on: April 07, 2010, 08:29:15 PM »
Kinda lame this is PSP only.  I like the PSP, but I just can't play these types game without dual analog controls.
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« Reply #27 on: April 07, 2010, 08:29:58 PM »
can you actually control the metal gears you build?

i have no goddamned clue, the trailer was captured by camera and there were no subtitles and nobody seems to have any gameplay impressions of that
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« Reply #28 on: April 07, 2010, 08:39:17 PM »
http://www.andriasang.com/e/blog/2010/04/08/peace_walker_mother_base/

that seems to have a bit on it.  Doesn't say much on your own metal gear, probably whatever ??? is meant to be.

The base and army building stuff sounds like Portable Ops but not a hassle, except they're keeping the dumb "get stabbed trying to find a wi-fi source" stuff.  I wonder if Versus play is like Portable Ops too where you can use soldiers you recruited.

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« Reply #29 on: April 07, 2010, 08:40:07 PM »
oh yeah there's also this

[youtube=560,345][/youtube]

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« Reply #30 on: April 07, 2010, 08:43:05 PM »
moe walker.

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« Reply #31 on: April 07, 2010, 08:58:15 PM »
moe filth and base management?

this game has everything

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« Reply #32 on: April 07, 2010, 09:02:03 PM »
I've heard rumors that it's impossible for this game to ever make money

It's going to be the highest selling MGS ever in Japan.  I don't think this will be a problem.

The whole reason Konami put this on the psp was to do it for a much much cheaper production cost than MGS4 and it'll probably end up selling about the same worldwide.

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« Reply #33 on: April 07, 2010, 10:10:27 PM »
oh yeah there's also this

oh my god i am so glad i stopped caring about metal gear :-\
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« Reply #34 on: April 07, 2010, 10:26:50 PM »
OH NO DORITOS IN MY VIDYA GAME SOMEONE STOP THIS MADNESS!!!!!!


Yeah, judging by how forum tripe seem to not give a shit that the game they're buying is being blatantly taken over and used to sell them more crap, I think I may have misjudged this one.

It really is an ingenious narrative device--making a character that gamers can relate to.  Eating doritos while wearing a mountain dew shirt and reeking of axe body spray...I'm sure it's not too far off from reality.  Hopefully the ipod is in there as well, loaded up with shitty metal.  They should take it all the way and add girls in the game for Snake to obsess over but never ask out, a basement for him to live in, and gaming forums where he can bitch about all his problems that he'll never do anything about.

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« Reply #35 on: April 08, 2010, 01:01:53 AM »
oh yeah there's also this

[youtube=560,345][/youtube]

spoiler (click to show/hide)
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« Reply #36 on: April 08, 2010, 01:02:09 AM »
[youtube=560,345]ySjGfnkEo_U[/youtube]

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« Reply #37 on: April 08, 2010, 01:06:22 AM »
I hope they do another conference like this for Metal Gear Rising, they should do a resident evil collaboration :hyper
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« Reply #38 on: April 08, 2010, 01:15:45 AM »
Wow, I was really not expecting the RPG elements and stuff like base-building and tech trees to be so extensive.

And I sorta get the "Outer Ops" and how that works with recruiting a bunch of people (and stealing tanks and choppers, apparently). It looks like you just assign them and a Famicom Wars-style battle takes place between the two squads. That's probably how you use the Metal Gears you build as well.


Still, the "magical balloons and invisible helicopters kidnapping people" is so ridiculous. It manages to make MPO's magic truck look grounded. :lol
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« Reply #39 on: April 08, 2010, 01:18:24 AM »
I was thinking that too at first, but why would you be given the options to paint and customize your metal gear if the battles seem like it's just sprites and stats? there has to be more that the metal gears can do.

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« Reply #40 on: April 08, 2010, 01:30:00 AM »
Wow, I was really not expecting the RPG elements and stuff like base-building and tech trees to be so extensive.

And I sorta get the "Outer Ops" and how that works with recruiting a bunch of people (and stealing tanks and choppers, apparently). It looks like you just assign them and a Famicom Wars-style battle takes place between the two squads. That's probably how you use the Metal Gears you build as well.


Still, the "magical balloons and invisible helicopters kidnapping people" is so ridiculous. It manages to make MPO's magic truck look grounded. :lol

The funniest thing is when you do a balloon recover when you are INDOORS lololol

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« Reply #41 on: April 08, 2010, 01:34:26 AM »
I was thinking that too at first, but why would you be given the options to paint and customize your metal gear if the battles seem like it's just sprites and stats? there has to be more that the metal gears can do.

Yeah, the Metal Gears will probably come into play when the game suddenly stops being Pokemon, Advance Wars, and Monster Hunter and suddenly becomes a Front Mission-esque SRPG.

It's all making sense. Kojima's finally figured out how to make Metal Gear sell in Japan. You make something else.
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« Reply #42 on: April 08, 2010, 02:05:51 AM »
OH NO DORITOS IN MY VIDYA GAME SOMEONE STOP THIS MADNESS!!!!!!

Yeah, judging by how forum tripe seem to not give a shit that the game they're buying is being blatantly taken over and used to sell them more crap, I think I may have misjudged this one.

It really is an ingenious narrative device--making a character that gamers can relate to.  Eating doritos while wearing a mountain dew shirt and reeking of axe body spray...I'm sure it's not too far off from reality.  Hopefully the ipod is in there as well, loaded up with shitty metal.  They should take it all the way and add girls in the game for Snake to obsess over but never ask out, a basement for him to live in, and gaming forums where he can bitch about all his problems that he'll never do anything about.

Who you calling forum tripe? Do I sense some self loathing there? We deal with it in every other form of media incessantly. It's a key way to make money, especially when most western customers who play this game most likely wouldn't have bought it, but yeah advertising in general weakens things. There's always been weird products in MGS games, it's just these products are either real or not a Japan-centric brand we don't recognise unlike previous MGS games. MGS is so rife with parody I couldn't take any of the advertising seriously anyway.

Really looking forward to this :-[ Don't have a PSP (and never will :piss handhelds) but hopefully I can configure an emulator to run it ok.

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« Reply #43 on: April 08, 2010, 02:34:33 AM »
OH NO DORITOS IN MY VIDYA GAME SOMEONE STOP THIS MADNESS!!!!!!


Yeah, judging by how forum tripe seem to not give a shit that the game they're buying is being blatantly taken over and used to sell them more crap, I think I may have misjudged this one.

It really is an ingenious narrative device--making a character that gamers can relate to.  Eating doritos while wearing a mountain dew shirt and reeking of axe body spray...I'm sure it's not too far off from reality.  Hopefully the ipod is in there as well, loaded up with shitty metal.  They should take it all the way and add girls in the game for Snake to obsess over but never ask out, a basement for him to live in, and gaming forums where he can bitch about all his problems that he'll never do anything about.

Yeah the publishers/developers found a way to make more money out of a game in times when making a game cost a bloody testicles and studios are closing everywhere.

"the box that heals my character is now a doritos pack why most they taint my beloved art form with shameless ads!!!?"

cry me a fucking river.
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« Reply #44 on: April 08, 2010, 01:54:33 PM »
[youtube=560,345][/youtube]
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« Reply #45 on: April 08, 2010, 08:25:40 PM »
OH NO DORITOS IN MY VIDYA GAME SOMEONE STOP THIS MADNESS!!!!!!


Yeah, judging by how forum tripe seem to not give a shit that the game they're buying is being blatantly taken over and used to sell them more crap, I think I may have misjudged this one.

It really is an ingenious narrative device--making a character that gamers can relate to.  Eating doritos while wearing a mountain dew shirt and reeking of axe body spray...I'm sure it's not too far off from reality.  Hopefully the ipod is in there as well, loaded up with shitty metal.  They should take it all the way and add girls in the game for Snake to obsess over but never ask out, a basement for him to live in, and gaming forums where he can bitch about all his problems that he'll never do anything about.

Yeah the publishers/developers found a way to make more money out of a game in times when making a game cost a bloody testicles and studios are closing everywhere.

"the box that heals my character is now a doritos pack why most they taint my beloved art form with shameless ads!!!?"

cry me a fucking river.


MGS4 sold jillions of copies and you're talking about the "harsh economic climate." :lol  You can pay for Konami's shitty management system that puts them in the position where they have to do this.  Alternatively, they could make a game using less resources and release it on a system that isn't a gigantic fucking risk.



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Who you calling forum tripe? Do I sense some self loathing there? We deal with it in every other form of media incessantly. It's a key way to make money, especially when most western customers who play this game most likely wouldn't have bought it, but yeah advertising in general weakens things. There's always been weird products in MGS games, it's just these products are either real or not a Japan-centric brand we don't recognise unlike previous MGS games. MGS is so rife with parody I couldn't take any of the advertising seriously anyway.

there we have it!  Kojima-san is just trying to parody advertising in games by actually advertising in his game!  oh wait, that's not parody at all.  We've seen advertising in actual games that are more effective than this.  Doesn't even have to be in the game...there are a million ways to market a game outside of putting items that you direct your character to to pick up and use.  This is another way for Kojima to shit on players, as he has been known to do. 

also, you don't parody shitty writing by putting in 2 hour long cutscenes--that's over the line from "parody/satire" to "we tried, but we write like shit and have no concept of effective drama."  It's pretty obvious to any person outside of the hardcore MGS forum fan base that every MGS game tries and seriously fails at telling a decent story.  It's only MGS fans that have convinced themselves that Kojima is some genius of cinematic story telling.  So lets not even get started on that point.   

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« Reply #46 on: April 09, 2010, 05:01:46 AM »
[youtube=560,345][/youtube]

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