Author Topic: Splinter Bourne Cell Official Thread of grandadies being panthers (Read 8165 times)

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #60 on:** April 13, 2010, 03:45:26 PM »

This game has perhaps the weirdest looking crouch walk ever.

FatalT · « **Reply #61 on:** April 13, 2010, 03:52:36 PM »

Quote from: Smooth Groove on April 13, 2010, 03:41:20 PM

Quote from: FatalT on April 13, 2010, 03:35:24 PM
Can't wait to pirate the PC version.

You'll probably be waiting a long time if it's using the same DRM as AC2. So far AC2 hasn't been completely cracked. With a crack, you can play it partially but you can't play through the whole game.

Why would you want to pirate SC anyway? Aren't you into MP games?

Phooey! Well then I'll just rent it I guess. Yeah I love MP games.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #62 on:** April 13, 2010, 04:05:22 PM »

Quote from: demi on April 13, 2010, 02:50:15 PM

Apparently the patch that they released today causes save corruption and crashes. Guess I wont be playing this yet... lmao

Hmmmm....

Got my first crash. Fairly early.

But then my 360 is also dying. So it could be that...

Edit: It crashed in the exact same spot. On the first mission. You take out people in the chandelier room. And then I went to the weapon stash looked in it but didn't upgrade. Then I turned to the right and started walking and it freezes for me right there.

maxy · « **Reply #63 on:** April 13, 2010, 04:08:38 PM »

If you crash is accompanied by weird dots,squares,loud sound,etc...360 is to blame

demi · « **Reply #64 on:** April 13, 2010, 04:17:39 PM »

At the weapons cache it locks up period, theres no way around it

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #65 on:** April 13, 2010, 04:20:47 PM »

Quote from: demi on April 13, 2010, 04:17:39 PM

At the weapons cache it locks up period, theres no way around it

You're fucking me?

??!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The Fake Shemp · « **Reply #66 on:** April 13, 2010, 04:23:07 PM »

Yeah, clear your system cache and don't update when prompted. It works fine afterwards. It's silly, but it works. Ubisoft has apparently asked Microsoft to remove the title update until they can fix it, but no dice so far.

Stupid crash aside, this is like the best 24 videogame not starring Jack Bauer ever.

drew · « **Reply #67 on:** April 13, 2010, 04:32:45 PM »

just got it

who wants to be my coop butt buddy, kara was gonna do it but i think hes broke now $:-\$

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #68 on:** April 13, 2010, 04:35:01 PM »

lulz. Release your big game which you've delayed for years only to put out a first day patch that breaks your game on the first level. That is special...

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #69 on:** April 13, 2010, 05:40:48 PM »

btw if you just unplug your ethernet cable you can play even with the update and get past the crash.

bork · « **Reply #70 on:** April 13, 2010, 06:38:12 PM »

Ubisoft says this has been fixed already. Bullshit?

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #71 on:** April 13, 2010, 06:40:15 PM »

I'm too lazy to risk a crash. I'll plug back in my ethernet cable and see if its been fixed later in the evening.

bork · « **Reply #72 on:** April 13, 2010, 07:06:40 PM »

Mine hasn't come yet. Amazon did their part, but UPS is fuckin' up. Been out for delivery all day.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #73 on:** April 13, 2010, 07:36:33 PM »

My early impression is good game but maybe not a great game. Although I'm still fairly early in the game.

The production values are nice. But I'm not sure the core gameplay is quite varied enough to really launch it up there as an amazing game for me. I find myself running into some of the same issues I always do in these sort of games as in when guys can see me or not. I mean its clear here when you are in cover because of the black and white thing but sometimes you kind of have to move into more lightened areas and its hard to perceive when they will see you and when they won't in certain situations.

The "upgrade" system is a bit of a joke. It's also a little weird how you can't hide bodies but otherwise I'm enjoying myself.

bork · « **Reply #74 on:** April 13, 2010, 07:45:04 PM »

It just came -Amazon packed in a flimsy envelope and the case is completely fucked up- but I don't know if I am going to start it yet until there's 100% confirmation it runs okay. People are talking about getting RRoDs from this shit.

WrikaWrek · « **Reply #75 on:** April 13, 2010, 08:21:51 PM »

Big games on 360 always come attached to RROD fud. It's getting old.

drew · « **Reply #76 on:** April 13, 2010, 08:25:13 PM »

games dont cause rrod's

Third · « **Reply #77 on:** April 13, 2010, 08:28:00 PM »

Only shitty hardware does. But I remember GTAIV killing my first X360. It crashed during gameplay, and when I turned it on, the X360 RRODed at my face.

cool breeze · « **Reply #78 on:** April 13, 2010, 08:39:16 PM »

GTAIV made my 360 die too

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #79 on:** April 13, 2010, 09:30:01 PM »

Yeah that Iraq level was a little weird. The controls aren't really good enough to be a straight shooter.

I get why the level is there but...

demi · « **Reply #80 on:** April 13, 2010, 09:33:25 PM »

My copy should be here tomorrow.

Btw, if you dont play on Realistic, you're cancer

WrikaWrek · « **Reply #81 on:** April 13, 2010, 09:41:00 PM »

Quote from: Stoney Mason on April 13, 2010, 09:30:01 PM

Yeah that Iraq level was a little weird. The controls aren't really good enough to be a straight shooter.

I get why the level is there but...

Do a more tactical approach. Each encounter should only last a couple of seconds if you do it right.

It's all about the planning, the controls and gameplay aren't really designed to improvise in heavy combat scenarios where you can't hide. But they are good if you have a plan, that will clear the area of enemies in just a couple of moves.

That's what i learned anyway.

Sho Nuff · « **Reply #82 on:** April 13, 2010, 09:55:00 PM »

Splinter Cell

God I uckfing love these games. Sam fisher

bork · « **Reply #83 on:** April 13, 2010, 10:17:19 PM »

Been playing it for a bit now (and updated), it's fine.

You can adjust the difficult in-game, BTW. I think I am going to restart on realistic because normal is WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY too easy.

The Fake Shemp · « **Reply #84 on:** April 13, 2010, 10:25:28 PM »

Yeah, it's fixed. Working fine now. Coop is fun times.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #85 on:** April 13, 2010, 11:12:07 PM »

I find I'm enjoying myself a good deal until the "action" elements kick in. It's like there are some parts where they clearly kind of want you to treat it as an action set piece. And those parts aren't nearly as enjoyable as just sort of sneaking around and killing people.

pilonv1 · « **Reply #86 on:** April 13, 2010, 11:27:39 PM »

That's what I hated from the demo. You're being funnelled into how they want you to play the game, there's very little choice in how you make your way through the levels. There's just an illusion of choice.

bork · « **Reply #87 on:** April 13, 2010, 11:28:51 PM »

I'm almost back to where I was on normal. Realistic doesn't really feel any different.

drew · « **Reply #88 on:** April 14, 2010, 01:03:52 AM »

is it just me or are they very liberal in giving out points to upgrade weapons?

also oxycontin reference

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #89 on:** April 14, 2010, 01:52:23 AM »

Quote from: pilonv1 on April 13, 2010, 11:27:39 PM

That's what I hated from the demo. You're being funnelled into how they want you to play the game, there's very little choice in how you make your way through the levels. There's just an illusion of choice.

My issue isn't necessarily that. There is some freedom in the stealth parts about how you want to play them. It's more that in a few cases action is clearly called for yet the action in the game isn't very good. Its sort of like they gimp the action part to make the stealth part more viable or still the star of the show. In a perfect world they would both be kinda kick-ass.

Either way I'm enjoying myself. Especially considering this is the first Splinter Cell I've ever been interested enough to keep playing through. Not saying its the best splinter cell game of course. Just saying this version of Splinter Cell is closer to the type of gamer that I personally am.

I don't want to make it seem like I don't enjoy them game. I do so far.

I've also came across a few cases where being able to move a body would have saved me from failing an objective.

I'm all for streamlining but that was probably one cut too many.

Third · « **Reply #90 on:** April 14, 2010, 01:28:56 PM »

Quote

This isn't the Splinter Cell of yesteryear. Sam Fisher is losing patience, which in turn translates into speedier stealth and a lot more bullets than before. It's hard not to feel a twinge of disappointment if you're a fan of the series. Sam's newest adventure doesn't offer the challenge you may be expecting, and recent stealth-action hybrids like Metal Gear Solid 4 and Batman: Arkham Asylum provide much more satisfying single-player experiences

http://www.gamespot.com/xbox360/action/tomclancyssplintercellconviction/review.html

Basically what I felt..

maxy · « **Reply #91 on:** April 14, 2010, 02:10:24 PM »

MGS4

drew · « **Reply #92 on:** April 14, 2010, 02:23:42 PM »

god why isnt anybody talking about the actual game, its just all pirates that already beat it, fuck this thread

demi · « **Reply #93 on:** April 14, 2010, 02:52:33 PM »

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single-player experiences

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #94 on:** April 14, 2010, 04:50:41 PM »

Nearing the end of the single player campaign.

It's alright. I mean there are things I like and there are things I definitely don't like. It's definitely not a contender for GOTY type material like I was hoping. I can safely say that at least. (at least about the single player part. A lot of people are saying the co-op is better than the single player which I could easily sort of see.)

bork · « **Reply #95 on:** April 14, 2010, 05:33:53 PM »

I see this game getting sold off pretty fast once I beat it. It's fun, but gives the same vibe as Arkham Asylum in that I don't think I will ever want to replay it. Co-op should be fun, but no Spies Vs. Mercs sucks.

They also really should have stuck with night time, stealth-based game play. The Iraq level kinda sucked (thankfully it was short and easy) and the visuals don't look so hot in daylight/bright areas.

Chaos Theory is still the best in the series.

demi · « **Reply #96 on:** April 14, 2010, 05:51:30 PM »

Amazing game, only on the Mansion level so far. WOW!!!!!!!!!! the king is back.

drew · « **Reply #97 on:** April 14, 2010, 05:54:22 PM »

a warning: if you upgrade different guns to just fuck around and see what the different upgrades do and try to quit so it doesnt save dont go back to the main menu because it autosaves when you do, i just got fucking fucked

demi · « **Reply #98 on:** April 14, 2010, 05:59:11 PM »

Did anyone else unlock the silenced machine gun from the start? Curious where that came from.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #99 on:** April 14, 2010, 06:25:46 PM »

I beat it. It's pretty short.

I'm fairly mixed on it. I sort of feel like this is the right approach for a series that I could really like but this isn't the game that delivers it. Its sort of a combo stealth/action game but the action isn't very good. It's like they are still trying to figure out how to mix the two. And while this is a step in the right direction I'm not really sure what they delivered here was a perfect combo. If they settle on this path, I think the next one could potentially be very good.

The production values were as expected very good. The story is meh but its delivered with enough production value that is good enough and its certainly better than what I've seen out of prior Splinter Cell games which were stone cold boring in that regard.

The best parts are some of the environments where you can just sneak around and take out the people as you please but often they will stick action elements in certain places which just weren't fun for me.There is some wonkiness about taking out people with the melee attack when you are on corners which frustrated me also.

Graphics are definitely very average and its not 60 fps so that's a little meh although I don't care about graphics.

It's a fun enough game. I probably feel the same way I felt after I beat Bioshock 2. Decent to good game. Nothing exceptional.

If anybody wants to try out the co-op just hit me up in this thread or on Xbox Live. I'm not especially good at the game but then I found you could often just brute force your way through some of the more difficult elements with the amount of gadgets they give you.

bork · « **Reply #100 on:** April 14, 2010, 06:27:26 PM »

How many levels is it? I hit stage eight

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(Third Eschelon)

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last night.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #101 on:** April 14, 2010, 06:34:19 PM »

Quote from: Good Day Sir on April 14, 2010, 06:27:26 PM

How many levels is it? I hit stage eight
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(Third Eschelon)
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last night.

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According to the achievements there are 11 Chapters. Third Eschelon is the 8th chapter.

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demi · « **Reply #102 on:** April 14, 2010, 06:38:08 PM »

Has anyone done a no-shot no-spot level yet? I'm trying it on Kobin's Mansion.

drew · « **Reply #103 on:** April 14, 2010, 06:40:40 PM »

Quote from: demi on April 14, 2010, 05:59:11 PM

Did anyone else unlock the silenced machine gun from the start? Curious where that came from.

its either an uplay gift that everyone got or it was from that text message deal you wrote about in the other thread

WrikaWrek · « **Reply #104 on:** April 14, 2010, 07:37:58 PM »

Quote from: Third on April 14, 2010, 01:28:56 PM

Quote
This isn't the Splinter Cell of yesteryear. Sam Fisher is losing patience, which in turn translates into speedier stealth and a lot more bullets than before. It's hard not to feel a twinge of disappointment if you're a fan of the series. Sam's newest adventure doesn't offer the challenge you may be expecting, and recent stealth-action hybrids like Metal Gear Solid 4 and Batman: Arkham Asylum provide much more satisfying single-player experiences

http://www.gamespot.com/xbox360/action/tomclancyssplintercellconviction/review.html

Basically what I felt..

Too bad he ends up on a rather embarrassing note by mentioning MGS4 and Batman.

Quote from: demi on April 14, 2010, 06:38:08 PM

Has anyone done a no-shot no-spot level yet? I'm trying it on Kobin's Mansion.

Sure, 2nd level is easy to do. Having a harder time in the whole Factory/Scientist Lab, but so far so good.

demi · « **Reply #105 on:** April 14, 2010, 08:30:37 PM »

Has anyone got past the part in Kobin's Mansion with the car without either getting caught, or not shooting a bullet? This is getting :\

I dont want to resort to shooting people up, trying to do the challenges for not getting spotted, or not shooting.

edit: Duh, the car alarm. I got it now.

drew · « **Reply #106 on:** April 14, 2010, 08:40:06 PM »

i like the iraq level

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #107 on:** April 14, 2010, 08:55:33 PM »

Co-op is pretty fun.

drew · « **Reply #108 on:** April 14, 2010, 09:08:10 PM »

are you playing with randoms?

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #109 on:** April 14, 2010, 09:09:11 PM »

Quote from: drew on April 14, 2010, 09:08:10 PM

are you playing with randoms?

I hoped in with a random but I got pretty lucky. He was a nice dude and we finished the first mission.

naff · « **Reply #110 on:** April 14, 2010, 09:21:18 PM »

Funny they mention Batman: AA (I guess it's a pretty obvious comparison really

), I watched a walkthrough of the first mission and when he's climbing around on the pipes takin out people it felt a bit like Batman imo.

Didn't watch past the point where Fisher gets captured while threatening Kobin but it looks pretty good. The expansive but not invasive tutorial over the first level is nice (what you need to do being projected on walls).

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #111 on:** April 14, 2010, 09:27:42 PM »

Batman isn't a good comparison because that game is much more than a stealth game. It has a little bit of everything.

MGS a least falls into the same category as this game. I can't really argue the case from a quality experience as I've never played MGS 4. (Well that's not true. I played about a 1/3 of it which I enjoyed)

I also think Batman is a much better single player game but its somewhat different as they are not exactly the same thing or in the same genre really. While I think its a better game its in an overall sense not in a genre sense.

Ganhyun · « **Reply #112 on:** April 14, 2010, 09:38:46 PM »

Much better than Double Agent IMO, but not the best game from the bit I've played so far.

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I just got back to my car from meeting Vic

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naff · « **Reply #113 on:** April 14, 2010, 10:07:37 PM »

Yeah, I think MGS4 is boss same with Batman. Will be trying this game out soon as it comes to a video store near me, fuck I wish we had a gamefly-esque service here. We have 1 but I trialled it for 2 weeks and never had anythin sent to me $:-\$

demi · « **Reply #114 on:** April 14, 2010, 10:16:57 PM »

How do you take out Kobin's guards without being alerted? I made it that far and everything went to shit.

drew · « **Reply #115 on:** April 14, 2010, 11:45:49 PM »

maybe emp the lights on one side and run up to him and press b

voila no kills

bork · « **Reply #116 on:** April 15, 2010, 12:04:25 AM »

Quote from: drew on April 14, 2010, 11:45:49 PM

maybe emp the lights on one side and run up to him and press b

voila no kills

I tried to take out Kobin without killing all his guards, and it wouldn't let me until they were all dead.

demi · « **Reply #117 on:** April 15, 2010, 12:49:57 AM »

Yeah, you have to get rid of them period.

Also, co-op mode is AWESOME. It's so lienient on what you can do. We had the framerate running at least 10fps cause there were so many guys trying to come at us at once. I love this game. Haters annihilated

Third · « **Reply #118 on:** April 15, 2010, 07:12:33 AM »

Quote from: WrikaWrek on April 14, 2010, 07:37:58 PM

Too bad he ends up on a rather embarrassing note by mentioning MGS4 and Batman.

Not really. Both games are better than Conviction. IMO, of course.

Conviction is a stellar game. But it's definitely one of the worst SC games I've played. SC1, Pandora Tomorrow and Chaos Theory are better SC games. Conviction = Double Agent.

WrikaWrek · « **Reply #119 on:** April 15, 2010, 07:56:51 AM »

Quote from: demi on April 14, 2010, 10:16:57 PM

How do you take out Kobin's guards without being alerted? I made it that far and everything went to shit.

Gotta use gadgets.

Put a mine in the door, mark (if you want to kill), kill guy in the window, blow mine. Guys go watch, emp grenade, catch one from behind, execute. If you don't wanna kill them, you just have to make more noise, use diversions.

Quote from: Third on April 15, 2010, 07:12:33 AM

Quote from: WrikaWrek on April 14, 2010, 07:37:58 PM
Too bad he ends up on a rather embarrassing note by mentioning MGS4 and Batman.

Not really. Both games are better than Conviction. IMO, of course.

Conviction is a stellar game. But it's definitely one of the worst SC games I've played. SC1, Pandora Tomorrow and Chaos Theory are better SC games. Conviction = Double Agent.

No.

MGS4 doesn't come close to SC, and Batman stealth gameplay isn't on par with SC at all. Yeah...pandora tomorrow sucked dude, Double agent on Xbox is better than that.

And whatever, you like previous SCs better, you've made your point. Chaos Theory is still a better game than MGS4 and Batman, whether you think it's better than Conviction or not, so i don't quite catch the comparison repeat to previous SCs.

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