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[Borys]

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[Ichirou]

[Donono]

Dafug.

 :'(

[Ichirou]

This sounds suspicious to me...

[Fresh Prince]

R.I.P

How long before somebody blames the Russians?  

[Ichirou]

R.I.P

How long before somebody blames the Russians?  

This sounds suspicious to me...

[Veidt]

condolences. Polish people are cool.

[Fresh Prince]

If Kosma were here he'd blame the Russians

[Veidt]

Then I'll do that for him

It was the Russians.

[Ichirou]

I wouldn't trust Putin for shit...wouldn't surprise me at all if it turns out the Russkies were behind this.

[Fresh Prince]

For Kosma: Russian takeover of Poland imminent

wtf Ichi?

[Ichirou]

They're one of our most important allies in the war on terror.  George W. Bush said "Don't forget about Poland!"

I guess Putin didn't...

[Fresh Prince]

I though they were supposed to have a two plane strategy? Or are you guys that poor?

[brawndolicious]

It's pretty fucked up that it happened on his way to a memorial for a Soviet massacre.

[T-Short]

hm. I'm reading that this "air force one" only had 87 seats. Maybe the 130+ number is taken from the capacity of a standard Tu-154?

Here is a pic of the plane in question btw
http://www.airliners.net/photo/Poland---Air/Tupolev-Tu-154M/1357825/L/

[T-Short]

It was Tu-154.

I know, I just linked an image of the plane. But the 130+ figure seems to be off since the AF one used by officials only seats 87

[brawndolicious]

Where did you get that casualty list from Borys?

[T-Short]

Where did you get that casualty list from Borys?

you can see one here, semi related
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/36th_Special_Aviation_Regiment

[M3wThr33]

Wow. There's no need to think of sabotage in this case. It's a goddamn old widowmaker. :-/
I mean, when you share a list with North Korea, you know you're being cheap.

This has got to be a horrible nightmare for everyone. How does a government cope after a disaster like this?

[Himu]

So what's going to happen now?

[Veidt]

al-jazeera is showing footage of the wreckage. Shit is bad man. there's literally nothing left but smoke and ash.

[T-Short]

Wow. There's no need to think of sabotage in this case. It's a goddamn old widowmaker. :-/
I mean, when you share a list with North Korea, you know you're being cheap.

Hehe. Well at least the polish ones are Tu-154M:s, which went into mass production in 1984. Haven't been able to find a specific age of this airframe though. The NK ones are Tu-154B models which are 10 to 15 years older

[Fresh Prince]

He has an identical twin brother too. This could really be quite the conspiracy theory http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jaros%C5%82aw_Kaczy%C5%84ski

[Tieno]

 

That's like a worse polish version of "the day the music died".

My condolences.

[etiolate]

It's not exactly wise to have that many members of a government in the same plane. Why didn't their security force separate the entourage?

[Human Snorenado]

That's awful, Borys.  Condolences to you and your countrymen.

[Rman]

RIP.  Terrible news.

[Cheebs]

I wouldn't trust Putin for shit...wouldn't surprise me at all if it turns out the Russkies were behind this.

Eh, the Russians while having their problems agreed with Obama to destroy 1/3rd of all their nukes. They get at least a week free pass from being accused of shit for that.

Sucks for Poland though, must be chaotic over there. Can't imagine how scared and confused they must be with so much of their government wiped out like that.

[The Fake Shemp]

Quite the power vacuum.

Yeah, exactly. Nobody finds this odd?

Pretty awful news, but how many countries have practically half their government on one flight and it coincidentally ends up in flames?

[Cheebs]

To the people who say its crazy to have them all on the same flight it isn't that unheard of. In America we sometimes times have the President, Sec. of State plus various congressmen on the same Air Force One flight.

[The Fake Shemp]

To the people who say its crazy to have them all on the same flight it isn't that unheard of. In America we sometimes times have the President, Sec. of State plus various congressmen on the same Air Force One flight.

Including the highest ranking members of the military and the chairman of the Fed?

... I don't think so.

[Phoenix Dark]

To the people who say its crazy to have them all on the same flight it isn't that unheard of. In America we sometimes times have the President, Sec. of State plus various congressmen on the same Air Force One flight.

How many times do we have the president, vice president, and high ranking military officials on the same plane? No dude, no.

RIP, what a horrible story

[Diunx]

Thats, horrible, a lot of countries would go up in flames if something like this happened to them, good job Poland keeping it together.

As they say in Poland:

"Polak jest mądry po szkodzie" (A Pole is smart only after something bad happens; it's easy to be wise after the event).

We say something like that over here too, I think it is: "Dominicans only lock their doors after the thieve leaves" or something like that.

[Great Rumbler]

Here's a list I got from Wikipedia, although it's still just a partial:

Lech Kaczyński, President of Poland
Maria Kaczyńska, First Lady of Poland
Andrzej Błasik, Chief of the Polish Air Force
Krystyna Bochenek, Deputy Speaker of the Senat
Archbishop Miron Chodakowski, Orthodox Ordinary of the Polish Army
Leszek Deptuła, member of the Sejm
Grzegorz Dolniak, member of the Sejm
Janina Fetlińska, member of the Senat
General Franciszek Gągor, Chief of the Polish Army General Staff
Grażyna Gęsicka, member of the Sejm
Przemysław Gosiewski, member of the Sejm
Mariusz Handzlik, Undersecretary of State in the Office of the President of the Republic of Poland
Izabela Jaruga-Nowacka, member of the Sejm
Ryszard Kaczorowski, the last President of the Polish government-in-exile
Sebastian Karpiniuk, member of the Sejm
Vice Admiral Andrzej Karweta, Commander-in-chief of the Polish Navy
Janusz Kochanowski, Polish Ombudsman for Citizen Rights
Andrzej Kremer, Deputy Minister of Foreign Affairs
Janusz Kurtyka, Historian and president of the Institute of National Remembrance
Aleksandra Natalli-Świat, member of the Sejm
Piotr Nurowski, President of the Polish Olympic Committee
Maciej Płażyński, President of the Polish Community Association
Tadeusz Płoski, bishop of the Military Ordinariate of the Polish Army
Krzysztof Putra, Deputy Speaker of the Sejm
Andrzej Przewoźnik, Secretary-General of the Council for the Protection of Struggle and Martyrdom Sites
Ryszard Rumianek, Rector of the Cardinal Stefan Wyszyński University
Arkadiusz Rybicki, member of the Sejm
Sławomir Skrzypek, President of the National Bank of Poland
Władysław Stasiak, Chief of the Office of the President of the Republic of Poland
Aleksander Szczygło, head of the National Security Bureau
Jerzy Szmajdziński, Deputy Speaker of the Sejm
Jolanta Szymanek-Deresz, member of the Sejm
Anna Walentynowicz, free trade union activist, member of Solidarity
Zbigniew Wassermann, member of the Sejm
Wiesław Woda, member of the Sejm
Edward Wojtas, member of the Sejm
Paweł Wypych, Secretary of State in the Office of the President of the Republic of Poland
Stanisław Zając, member of the Senat

Man, this is insane. I can't believe they'd put that many different members of the government on one plane. I can't even begin to imagine what people in Poland are feeling right now over this.

A 90th passenger, presidential aide Zofia Kruszyńska-Gust, felt sick just before the trip and did not board the plane.

Oh wow, did that guy catch a lucky break or what?

[Joe Molotov]

What a tragedy.

[Yeti]

Poor Poland

[Bebpo]

condolences, Borys.   

[muckhole]

Unbelievable. I'll echo the surprise that so many important people were allowed on the same flight.

What a dark day for Poland.

[Olivia Wilde Homo]

Today, we are all Poles.

[Madrun Badrun]

Mr Kaczynski's twin brother, Jaroslaw, a former prime minister and now head of the main opposition party

That is so weird. 

[The Dark Shake 3000]

Holy fuck. So literally the entire high chain of command was on one flight?

[Himu]

Borys how the fuck is Poland going to get out of this mess? Next election soon?

[The Dark Shake 3000]

This whole thing seemed like a disaster waiting to happen. No real conspiracy, just poor planning.

[Cheebs]

Clearly the fog which led to the crash was a secret Russian agent.

[The Dark Shake 3000]

This would be a pretty spiffy cover-up if they all wanted to fake their own deaths, though. One single isolated incident taking out almost 90 people, including tons of Poland's top political figures -- it does sound shady, but anyone looking for a conspiracy or someone to blame is likely to come up empty handed. If anything it just sounds like a really bad idea that came back to bite them all in the ass.

[drew]

im sorry, but you guys have two presidents?

well not anymore of course

i am a horrible human being

[Himu]

This would be a pretty spiffy cover-up if they all wanted to fake their own deaths, though. One single isolated incident taking out almost 90 people, including tons of Poland's top political figures -- it does sound shady, but anyone looking for a conspiracy or someone to blame is likely to come up empty handed. If anything it just sounds like a really bad idea that came back to bite them all in the ass.

[The Dark Shake 3000]

im sorry, but you guys have two presidents?

well not anymore of course

i am a horrible human being

Yeah, you are.

And I believe one was the sitting president while the other was a former president.

[drew]

is there an echo in here?

[The Dark Shake 3000]

is there an echo in here?

Again you fail to actually read the thread before making stupid replies, in a thread as serious and sad as this no less. You really are a piece of shit.

[drew]

well then you could have said president and former president, fucker

[The Dark Shake 3000]

well then you could have said president and former president, fucker

He did, in the very first post. You're just an ignorant piece of shit.

[drew]

oh no, i failed to read something before i made a joke, how will i ever live with myself?

[Mandark]

Good God.  Has anything like this ever happened, not counting massacres during a regime change?

[Himu]

Good God.  Has anything like this ever happened, not counting massacres during a regime change?

Haven't heard of anything like this.

[The Dark Shake 3000]

oh no, i failed to read something before i made a joke, how will i ever live with myself?

Suicide is the only option.

[The Dark Shake 3000]

Borys should run for new president

[Himu]

Fresh Prince, Kosma, Karakand, Malek (lil' faker) and me should stay together in these hard times 

Fresh Prince is Polish? He said he was Indian.

[Crushed]

Borys should run for new president

Run? This is time for a coup d'etat.

Borys ruling the nation with an iron heel

[Fresh Prince]

Fresh Prince, Kosma, Karakand, Malek (lil' faker) and me should stay together in these hard times 

Fresh Prince is Polish? He said he was Indian.

I'm a black pole.