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Beezy

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Re: Marvel vs Capcom 3
« Reply #120 on: April 23, 2010, 11:19:38 PM »
Oh well.  I'm mainly getting it to play local again like back in the day.  $15 is really too expensive, especially after the awesome Afterburner was only $10. but I'm feelin' I need this in my blood so I will pay it.
It's been on sale twice so far at like half price. I have it, but I've hardly played it. It's so different from SF4 or BlazBlue.

Bebpo

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« Reply #121 on: April 24, 2010, 02:23:42 AM »
Oh well.  I'm mainly getting it to play local again like back in the day.  $15 is really too expensive, especially after the awesome Afterburner was only $10. but I'm feelin' I need this in my blood so I will pay it.
I have it, but I've hardly played it. It's so different from SF4 or BlazBlue.

MvC2 is tied for my favorite fighting game of all time with VF4: Evo/VF5.  When I played it again tonight for the first time in many years I was rocking and immediately remembered why I loved MvC2 during my college years.

MvC2 does not require a lot of physical skill or memorization.  This may seem like a negative, but I don't have high end physical skill in fighting games, so I like that even I could play on the same level as pros.  All the other fighting games require really high physical skills for high level play.  In SF3 it was being able to parry 20 hit supers, in SF4 it's FADC which I can't do for the life of me, in Guilty Gear it was roman cancels which I could never physically pull off more then here or there, in Tatsunoko it's the baroque rainbow stuff that's basically a GG roman cancel.  Fighting games these days all have really tight timing/difficult movements for high end play and for the average joe like me that's a turn-off.  In MvC2 everything was basically the golden LP,LK,MP,MK->special or super combo.  Then do that but finish with a launcher, jump up and repeat and you have your bread and butter air combo.  After a week or playing anyone can pull off almost any combo in the game.  There just isn't much physical skill involved in performing combos and I like that.  It's also good for your non-fighting game buddies because they can pick it up really quickly.

MvC2 also has a shitton of everything.  Not only does it have one of the biggest rosters ever at 56 characters.  But each character has like 10 special moves, 3 assist attacks & 3+ supers.  Compared to say SFIV where you have 3-4 special attacks, 1 super, 1 ultra it's fun because there's just so much variety in how to play.  You can pull out different supers at different times and incorporate all kinds of moves to combo into.  Hell you can turn Zangief green and have him breath fire if you want. 

Then comes the next step which is where it gets really fun.  You see these 100s of special attacks/supers/assists available in the game and since everything combos very easily, you think "what would I like to connect?"  instead of saying "what can I connect?".  Want to have zangief jump in and juggle with an assist that you then combo into and end with a super with Ryu?  Go for it!  Mix up Blackheart's meteor shower with a strider trap on the other side?  Go for it.  Since chipping does SO MUCH DAMAGE.  It's not even up what connects/juggles.  It's also about "even if they block, I can kick their ass through chipping" ideas.  Between all the possibilities in the game there are probably 10,000 strategies you can do.

Unfortunately because of that the game is broken as hell.  It was just impossible for the game designers to test every possible move/assist pairing and keep a balance.  So people found out the ridiculously overpowered groups and as word spread out that's all everyone did.  But if you just play with friends and stay away from cheezing each other with infinites or full-life chip traps, then it can be a whole lot of fun.

MvC2 is the almost perfect fighting game for someone who wants a low/medium-skill, high strategy, high variety game.  It's all about thinking up great strategies through move pairings and less about actual execution since everyone is on the same level in physical execution skill.  This is exactly what I want out of a fighting game since I'm not great at execution and I like mind games, so I love MvC2 and hope MvC3 lives up to it.
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Robo

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Re: Marvel vs Capcom 3
« Reply #122 on: April 24, 2010, 04:28:24 AM »
MvC2 does not require a lot of physical skill or memorization.  This may seem like a negative, but I don't have high end physical skill in fighting games, so I like that even I could play on the same level as pros

I don't know MvC2 well enough to really get into an in-depth discussion about it, but this part specifically is plainly incorrect.  MvC2 moves VERY fast and while the basic inputs, normal commands and strings are pretty easy, the advanced level techniques and exploits that have become fundamental to the game are absolutely NOT.  The speed at which the game moves requires extremely refined technical proficiency.  Repeating something I said in the MvC3 GAF thread, MvC2 probably has the single largest barrier to entry to the "professional" level of any fighting game, including Virtua Fighter, period. 
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Bebpo

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« Reply #123 on: April 24, 2010, 04:36:00 AM »
ok, maybe not tourney level.  But MvC2 has the lowest barrier of any fighter in the post MvC2 days if you just want to get good enough to stand on equal ground with other players at arcades or gamers online. 

It's like:
top 1% - pro players
next 90% - everyone who put a week or two into learning the game - everyone whose been playing it for years
bottom 10% - people not willing to put a week in to learn the basics

whereas I feel most fighting games these days break down to:
top 1% - pro players
next 30% - people who've been playing for months and have mastered the skills necessary
next 30% - people who've been playing for weeks and have got most of the skills down
next 30% - people who've played a week or two and have the basics down
next 10% - people who haven't played a week and don't know the basics


Then again I feel VF has a low level barrier of entry.  The commands in VF are really basic outside a couple that aren't important and the combos are short and simple.  There's very little reflex/physical timing that needs to be practiced for months on end.  It's more about looking at the moves you do have and figuring out what's useful or not and since everyone has like 300 moves that takes a while but you learn new things each time you play.

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« Reply #124 on: April 24, 2010, 09:17:09 AM »
MvC2 does not require a lot of physical skill or memorization.  This may seem like a negative, but I don't have high end physical skill in fighting games, so I like that even I could play on the same level as pros

I don't know MvC2 well enough to really get into an in-depth discussion about it, but this part specifically is plainly incorrect.  MvC2 moves VERY fast and while the basic inputs, normal commands and strings are pretty easy, the advanced level techniques and exploits that have become fundamental to the game are absolutely NOT.  The speed at which the game moves requires extremely refined technical proficiency.  Repeating something I said in the MvC3 GAF thread, MvC2 probably has the single largest barrier to entry to the "professional" level of any fighting game, including Virtua Fighter, period. 

pretty much.

Go to a tourney at an arcade and tell me you can play like that. MvC2 has an easy learning curve, but getting to pro level is tough. Favorite fighting game next to VF4 EVO  :bow
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MoxManiac

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« Reply #125 on: April 26, 2010, 10:09:43 PM »
MvC2 probably has one of the highest execution barriers of any fighter to play at a high level.

EDIT: I wish I had read Robo's post more closely considering he said the same exact thing first. Still, some of the stuff in high level marvel (trijumps, ROMS, fly/unfly with sent, double snaps, etc) take crazy execution skill.
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Re: Marvel vs Capcom 3
« Reply #126 on: May 11, 2010, 09:46:39 PM »
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Beezy

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« Reply #127 on: May 11, 2010, 09:58:02 PM »
I know it's in 3D, but I wish they could keep the backgrounds bright and colorful like MvC2.

Bebpo

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« Reply #128 on: May 11, 2010, 10:09:32 PM »
Yeah, I'm guessing this will be a game that you have to see in motion to appreciate the visuals.  I won't believe that with all the money behind this game they're settling on PS2/Wii level graphics on PS3/X360 when SFIV looks darn good.


The Fake Shemp

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« Reply #130 on: May 27, 2010, 06:20:05 PM »
I think it looks pretty awesome, actually. Finally, a button masher! Now even I can beat RoboJ!
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« Reply #131 on: May 27, 2010, 06:37:55 PM »
Is that Chris from Resident Evil?  His bicep is bigger than his head, and yet he uses guns.
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Re: Marvel vs Capcom 3
« Reply #132 on: May 27, 2010, 07:58:47 PM »
Is that Chris from Resident Evil?  His bicep is bigger than his head, and yet he uses guns.

It's so he can hold his gun VERY steadily.

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« Reply #133 on: May 27, 2010, 08:14:26 PM »
Is that Chris from Resident Evil?  His bicep is bigger than his head, and yet he uses guns.
[youtube=560,345]4xuXkVzBdJQ[/youtube]

Enl

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« Reply #134 on: June 11, 2010, 01:44:06 PM »
http://www.gametrailers.com/video/e3-2010-marvel-vs/101063

New trailer. Pretty much the same as before but with Dante and Deadpool in it.
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Robo

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Re: Marvel vs Capcom 3
« Reply #135 on: June 11, 2010, 01:54:34 PM »
Okay, that was a hell of a lot better than the first trailer.  :bow Capcom :bow2
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Re: Marvel vs Capcom 3
« Reply #136 on: June 11, 2010, 02:12:03 PM »
Deadpool :hyper
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« Reply #137 on: June 11, 2010, 05:12:31 PM »
Was that CLOUD GALACTUS at the end?
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« Reply #138 on: June 11, 2010, 05:28:53 PM »
No idea but people were hinting Phoenix.

Dante vs Deadpool is the best match ever  :lol

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Re: Marvel vs Capcom 3
« Reply #139 on: June 11, 2010, 05:34:36 PM »
Finally, a real fighting game. That trailer was hot.
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« Reply #140 on: June 11, 2010, 06:11:54 PM »
No idea but people were hinting Phoenix.

Dante vs Deadpool is the best match ever  :lol

It was just a fire cloud.  No Phoenix shape.  It could be anything.  You could also say it was Pyron from Darkstalkers.
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MoxManiac

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Re: Marvel vs Capcom 3
« Reply #141 on: June 13, 2010, 11:50:29 AM »
No idea but people were hinting Phoenix.

Dante vs Deadpool is the best match ever  :lol

It was just a fire cloud.  No Phoenix shape.  It could be anything.  You could also say it was Pyron from Darkstalkers.

I'm pretty confident it's Dormammu. He's already been hinted at by several artworks and that fire cloud is a trademark of his.
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Re: Marvel vs Capcom 3
« Reply #142 on: June 13, 2010, 12:13:52 PM »
Dante vs Deadpool will be amazing
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« Reply #143 on: June 15, 2010, 03:10:56 PM »

Bebpo

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« Reply #144 on: June 15, 2010, 03:20:52 PM »
Dante looks fucking awesome

Bebpo

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« Reply #145 on: June 15, 2010, 03:21:50 PM »
Game looks REALLY GOOD

Bebpo

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« Reply #146 on: June 15, 2010, 03:23:22 PM »
Game of the show

Bebpo

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« Reply #147 on: June 15, 2010, 03:25:20 PM »
Oh crap, Dante's assist is his lightning guitar solo  :lol

Enl

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« Reply #148 on: June 15, 2010, 03:37:32 PM »
They actually gave Deadpool the shoryuken!  :lol

Gameplay looks great. Fast as hell too.
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« Reply #149 on: June 15, 2010, 03:40:25 PM »
This is hotness. Looks really really good, suprised about all comic effects but it looks good too. FFFFFFFFFFFF WANT

Dante omg
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« Reply #150 on: June 15, 2010, 03:44:49 PM »
looked awesome

like MVC2 with cellshaded 2.5d

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« Reply #151 on: June 15, 2010, 03:47:01 PM »
These aerial raves are HIGH. love that it pans out when the character hits the ground. hotness
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« Reply #152 on: June 15, 2010, 04:02:44 PM »
 :rock
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« Reply #153 on: June 15, 2010, 04:46:49 PM »
Deadpool's voice is so obnoxious :lol
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« Reply #154 on: June 15, 2010, 05:03:26 PM »
God damn this game is white hot. And the people playing in the IGN vids actually know what they're doing :o
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« Reply #155 on: June 15, 2010, 05:23:16 PM »
God damn this game is white hot. And the people playing in the IGN vids actually know what they're doing :o

yea after seeing the air combos and "link to supers" they were pulling out

 :o

plus that deadpool voice is gonna get annoying real fast  :lol

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« Reply #156 on: June 15, 2010, 05:31:12 PM »
Extended trailer with new character reveal at the end

[youtube=560,345]7WZdQD2kEk4&hl=en_US&fs=1&[/youtube]

and "BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG!"
[youtube=560,345]Jj1_By1c39A&hl=en_US&fs=1&[/youtube]

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« Reply #157 on: June 15, 2010, 06:12:08 PM »
DUDE!

Robo

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« Reply #158 on: June 15, 2010, 07:23:12 PM »
I can't get over how perfect this is turning out.  Mind blown.  :bow
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« Reply #159 on: June 15, 2010, 07:40:14 PM »
SUCK IT

OPEN FIRE

SUCK IT

OPEN FIRE

FIRE IN THE HOLE

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« Reply #160 on: June 15, 2010, 07:55:42 PM »
I can't believe I once thought he was a bad choice

Chris :bow2

WAT  :o

For shame

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« Reply #161 on: June 15, 2010, 08:03:34 PM »
Holy, game looks like Marvel comics in action but so much better!  :drool

I take back what I said to dark1x about not being able to get excited for an unreleased game. 

Himu

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Re: Marvel vs Capcom 3
« Reply #162 on: June 15, 2010, 08:42:41 PM »
cum buckets

i am
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Beezy

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« Reply #163 on: June 15, 2010, 08:46:58 PM »
Screenshots look weird, but the game looks amazing in motion.

Himu

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« Reply #164 on: June 15, 2010, 08:47:44 PM »
That was the case with SF4.
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Beezy

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Re: Marvel vs Capcom 3
« Reply #165 on: June 15, 2010, 08:52:45 PM »
http://www.famitsu.com/game/news/1236327_1124.html

Felicia in the 2nd vid, Morrigan in the 3rd.

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« Reply #166 on: June 15, 2010, 09:06:19 PM »
Game looks fucking hot! omg! :drool
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« Reply #167 on: June 15, 2010, 09:17:24 PM »
Capcom's fighting game revival is the best thing about this generation. Not only because they are making the best games, but also because it paved the way for other fighting games to get made and be successful, like BlazBlue and hopefully King of Fighters XIII.
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« Reply #168 on: July 21, 2010, 12:29:40 PM »
I just saw this vid



That is so sick. I am buying this from this video alone. BlazBlue + MVC3 leading the way :bow
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« Reply #169 on: July 21, 2010, 01:11:27 PM »
Yea 4 new characters Announced.

Super Skrull
Doctor Doom
Chun Li
Trish (Devil may Cry)


Plus Viewtiful Joe looks to be in due to his silhouette at the start where the show the Capcom and Marvel logos

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« Reply #170 on: July 21, 2010, 03:36:11 PM »
I hope with two of the Fantastic Four's main villains being in this that you can have all of the Fantastic Four as well
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« Reply #171 on: July 21, 2010, 03:44:40 PM »
that video is hot
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« Reply #172 on: July 21, 2010, 03:52:06 PM »
I hope with two of the Fantastic Four's main villains being in this that you can have all of the Fantastic Four as well

I read that licensing issues have prevented the FF from being in the game, which is why Capcom decided to go with the Super Skrull instead.
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« Reply #173 on: July 21, 2010, 06:43:31 PM »
I hope with two of the Fantastic Four's main villains being in this that you can have all of the Fantastic Four as well

Apparently Marvel wont let Capcom put any of the four in MvC.


I hope with two of the Fantastic Four's main villains being in this that you can have all of the Fantastic Four as well

I read that licensing issues have prevented the FF from being in the game, which is why Capcom decided to go with the Super Skrull instead.


Ive heard of these as well.

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« Reply #174 on: July 21, 2010, 07:21:20 PM »
honestly looks a bit janky, but the VS games always were, so who cares anyway.  :)

many parts of it look fantastic...and it's still a bit early. plenty of time to release more character info.

spoiler (click to show/hide)
this just makes me want the Darkstalkers revival rumor to be true so badly.  :'(
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« Reply #175 on: July 22, 2010, 12:43:24 AM »
Look likes some leaking went on

Thor and Amaterasu (Okami) are in.









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« Reply #176 on: July 22, 2010, 12:47:01 AM »
Not sure how I feel about Ameratsu; I was kinda hoping they'd leave out gimmicky characters with bizarre hitboxes (like Servbot :yuck), but maybe it won't be so bad.  Will wait for video.

And I hate Thor, but he looks pretty badass in that screen cap.
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« Reply #177 on: July 22, 2010, 12:48:21 AM »
Ugh mini characters :yuck
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« Reply #178 on: July 22, 2010, 12:56:28 AM »
Ugh mini characters :yuck

well Viewtiful Joe supposed to be in as well so more of them for you

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« Reply #179 on: July 22, 2010, 01:06:53 AM »
Wow, something I agree with Himuro on for once!

I hate mini characters when you whiff your attacks and they suck to fight against.  Didn't like VJ in TvC and think he's a waste of slot in MvC3


But Amaterasu gets an exception because it's fucking AMATERASU  :o :o :o