Author Topic: James Cameron gets to finally play Jake Sully (Read 6057 times)

http://...THE QUALITY of Fox's new Blu-ray DOES help retain a little bit of that original roller coaster experience. Not all of it by any measure, but some. Judged on its own for Blu-ray high-definition quality, this AVC/1080p presentation - framed at the original 1.78:1 IMAX 3D aspect ratio - is very, very, VERY good. It is NOT perfect, however, despite the fact that the film is presented on a BD-50 with no other extras. But it is pretty damn stunning. Let me qualify that: I think this transfer is going to divide opinions, and what your own opinion is will depend on how large your HD display is. I think on a 40-inch flat panel, this disc will look spectacular, with vibrant color and abundant detail. When you get up to the size of the 110-inch front projection screen I'm using... the image does start to break down just a little bit. Let me say it plainly: I think this is the best looking presentation of Avatar you could ask for on a single BD disc. The bit rates are cranked and every bit of disc space is used to max out the presentation quality. But for anyone out there during the format war who claimed that a studio would never NEED all the added room a BD-50 disc can provide, here's the proof you were incorrect. Seen on a very large display, the image does occasionally look a little soft, with very minor visible compression artifacting. Not a lot, but just enough to occasionally distract. The problem is, the film is long... and there is just SO MUCH DETAIL! I can't imagine how hard the compression techs must have worked to squeeze every little bit of quality out here - and they have, by and large, succeeded wonderfully.

Visually, the colors are accurate to the theatrical presentation, and range from muted to stunningly bold and vibrant. Black levels are neigh-perfect, but shadows ranges from deep black to grayish. Neither of those things are defects - they're artistic choices. Cameron and his CG team used a ton of atmospheric effects (think smoke, haze, mist and fog - both on set and in their virtual shots) to create a sense of 3D space and greatly enhance the image depth and scale. That works beautifully in an actual 3D presentation, but in 2D it does keep the image from really popping off the screen, the way (for example) a more "cartoonish" CG-animated film like Cars or Toy Story would. Still, there's abundant fine image detail, with very little to no DNR or haloing. And the atmospheric effects, combined with the dynamic cinematography, do work to give the image a surprisingly good 3D-dimensional feel, for a 2D-only presentation. What I would say is this: The film looks fantastic on Blu-ray and I think most of you will be really blown away. But when the more elaborate Blu-ray special edition of Avatar comes out later this year (and when the 3D version appears on the format a couple years from now), I hope Cameron splits the film onto two BD-50 discs. That's probably going to sound like sacrilege to some of you younger readers, but I really don't mind a big epic film split over two discs, as was the case with the 4-disc LOTR: Extended Edition DVDs. A lot of classic films (think Lawrence of Arabia and Gone with the Wind) were split in two with an Intermission. Given that it's reported that Cameron may ADD scenes for next BD version to create an extended cut, and that there WILL be substantial extras included, I think splitting the film over two BD-50s will really give the compression the chance to breathe even more than it does here... so the images will REALLY pop off the screen. Just my feeling, anyway.

Diunx · « **Reply #69 on:** April 23, 2010, 01:14:31 PM »

Yeah I'm sure those 1.5 million people have 110 inch displays.

manabyte proves again why people considers him a shit poster.

ManaByte · « **Reply #70 on:** April 23, 2010, 01:17:13 PM »

It's a shit movie.

If I want to watch Dances with Wolves I'll watch DANCES WITH WOLVES (too bad that may never come out in BRD in the US

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Cheebs · « **Reply #71 on:** April 23, 2010, 01:25:42 PM »

I'll rent the extended edition when it's out in november just to see how it looks and what changes had been made.

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #72 on:** April 23, 2010, 01:32:02 PM »

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I think this is the best looking presentation of Avatar you could ask for on a single BD disc.

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Still, there's abundant fine image detail, with very little to no DNR or haloing. And the atmospheric effects, combined with the dynamic cinematography, do work to give the image a surprisingly good 3D-dimensional feel, for a 2D-only presentation.

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What I would say is this: The film looks fantastic on Blu-ray and I think most of you will be really blown away.

Yeah, everybody's just going to be falling all over themselves to take that BD back to Best Buy.

The Dark Shake 3000 · « **Reply #73 on:** April 23, 2010, 03:02:09 PM »

Quote from: Cheebs on April 23, 2010, 01:25:42 PM

I'll rent the extended edition when it's out in november just to see how it looks and what changes had been made.

Na'vi sex scene

Green Shinobi · « **Reply #74 on:** April 23, 2010, 03:05:31 PM »

Quote from: ManaByte on April 23, 2010, 01:17:13 PM

It's a shit movie.

If I want to watch Dances with Wolves I'll watch DANCES WITH WOLVES (too bad that may never come out in BRD in the US )

No wonder IGN fired you.

Dances With Wolves and Avatar have almost nothing in common aside from the idea of a white guy joining an indigenous culture.

ManaByte · « **Reply #75 on:** April 23, 2010, 03:06:43 PM »

What? I quit IGN you fucking distinguished mentally-challenged fellow.

Smooth Groove · « **Reply #76 on:** April 23, 2010, 03:07:02 PM »

I picked up Avatar on Blu-ray last night. I had already previewed it a week ago because my rental shop got it early. The transfer is excellent but even if it weren't, the chance to intricately study such a deep, multi-layered film is easily worth $20.

Smooth Groove · « **Reply #77 on:** April 23, 2010, 03:07:47 PM »

Quote from: Green Shinobi on April 23, 2010, 03:05:31 PM

Quote from: ManaByte on April 23, 2010, 01:17:13 PM
It's a shit movie.

If I want to watch Dances with Wolves I'll watch DANCES WITH WOLVES (too bad that may never come out in BRD in the US )

No wonder IGN fired you.

Dances With Wolves and Avatar have almost nothing in common aside from the idea of a white guy joining an indigenous culture.

Agreed.

Avatar is much closer to The Last Samurai.

ManaByte · « **Reply #78 on:** April 23, 2010, 03:11:27 PM »

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Green Shinobi · « **Reply #79 on:** April 23, 2010, 03:12:22 PM »

Goddamn, Manabyte, why did IGN ever hire someone who is completely unable to analyze films at anything beyond a surface level?

The Dark Shake 3000 · « **Reply #80 on:** April 23, 2010, 03:13:42 PM »

Quote from: Green Shinobi on April 23, 2010, 03:12:22 PM

Goddamn, Manabyte, why did IGN ever hire someone who is completely unable to analyze films at anything beyond a surface level?

Dude...it's IGN.

Barry Egan · « **Reply #81 on:** April 23, 2010, 03:24:48 PM »

Every time Green Shinobi implies that Avatar requires more than a surface level reading, another direct-to-video "American Pie" sequel is approved by corporate.

Raban · « **Reply #82 on:** April 23, 2010, 03:26:22 PM »

Quote from: My F*cking Grandpa on April 23, 2010, 03:24:48 PM

Every time Green Shinobi implies that Avatar requires more than a surface level reading, another direct-to-video "American Pie" sequel is approved by corporate.

They're like 100 films behind.

Diunx · « **Reply #83 on:** April 23, 2010, 03:59:57 PM »

Quote from: The Dark Shake 3000 on April 23, 2010, 03:02:09 PM

Quote from: Cheebs on April 23, 2010, 01:25:42 PM
I'll rent the extended edition when it's out in november just to see how it looks and what changes had been made.

Na'vi sex scene

oh god yes!

chronovore · « **Reply #84 on:** April 24, 2010, 10:47:24 AM »

Quote from: The Dark Shake 3000 on April 23, 2010, 03:02:09 PM

Quote from: Cheebs on April 23, 2010, 01:25:42 PM
I'll rent the extended edition when it's out in november just to see how it looks and what changes had been made.

Na'vi sex scene

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ManaByte · « **Reply #85 on:** April 24, 2010, 01:11:20 PM »

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #86 on:** April 24, 2010, 02:59:52 PM »

The Dark Shake 3000 · « **Reply #87 on:** April 24, 2010, 03:18:06 PM »

Soup drinker

ManaByte · « **Reply #88 on:** April 24, 2010, 03:23:46 PM »

You know, if they use their ponytail to fuck and they use it to ride their horses and birds...aren't they also fucking the animals?

The Dark Shake 3000 · « **Reply #89 on:** April 24, 2010, 03:24:52 PM »

I bet James Cameron watches bestiality porn

Madrun Badrun · « **Reply #90 on:** April 24, 2010, 03:25:56 PM »

Quote from: The Dark Shake 3000 on April 24, 2010, 03:24:52 PM

I bet James Cameron watches bestiality porn

Live. When he goes native in Mexico.

ManaByte · « **Reply #91 on:** April 24, 2010, 07:56:41 PM »

Movie looks A LOT better in 2D. Background detail for one is much better.

But it does look more CG in 2D.

The Dark Shake 3000 · « **Reply #92 on:** April 24, 2010, 11:59:50 PM »

Quote from: ManaByte on April 24, 2010, 07:56:41 PM

Movie looks A LOT better in 2D. Background detail for one is much better.

But it does look more CG in 2D.

What? It looks almost entirely CG in both versions. Because it is.

ManaByte · « **Reply #93 on:** April 25, 2010, 12:19:49 AM »

Parts look more CG in the 2d version. The Thanator looks almost unfinished in the 2d one and the facial mocap/animation looks more off.

But the background detail is much much much better in the 2d one.

Also colors are better since they aren't dulled out by the glasses.

chronovore · « **Reply #94 on:** April 25, 2010, 10:06:21 PM »

Going to wait for the extended edition, as it will probably be better. ALIENS director's cut is suh-weet.

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Author Topic: James Cameron gets to finally play Jake Sully (Read 6057 times)