Laura Bush lost her faith in God because she was a shitty driver

[Smooth Groove]

Whatever happened to taking responsibility for your own actions?

http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/laura-bush-claims-book-president-poisoned/story?id=10496545






She writes for the first time about the deadly car accident she caused as a teenager in 1963, how she ran a stop sign on the way to a drive-in theater and struck and killed classmate Mike Douglas.

"I was praying that the person in the other car was alive," she wrote. "In my mind I was calling, 'Please God, please God,' over and over again."

Bush, who was 17 at the time of the accident, wrote that she was wracked with guilt for years over the boy's death and for not attending the funeral or reaching out to his parents.
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"I lost my faith that November," she wrote. "Lost it for many, many years. It was the first time that I prayed to God for something ... and it was as if no one heard."

[tiesto]

It's OK when Laura Bush killed a person by being a shitty driver, but Ted Kennedy is the devil himself for what happened.

[The Fake Shemp]

Isn't there a conspiracy over that too?

[Smooth Groove]

What conspiracy?  The double standards that Laura benefited from are just as real and apparent as the ones you've set up. 

[BlueTsunami]

Sounds about right, all that prayin' and lovin' the lord is well and good until you really need the nicca.

[Smooth Groove]

Makes sense.  Of course God would have the biggest dong. 

[Eel O'Brian]

laura bush - 17 year old stupid kid who ran a stop sign and stayed until police arrived

ted kennedy - 37 year old grown man who drove off a bridge and left the scene of the accident (where the victim suffocated inside the car, btw) and did not notify the police until the next morning

don't let your politics get in the way of this very important distinction

[Madrun Badrun]

laura bush - 17 year old stupid kid who ran a stop sign and stayed until police arrived

ted kennedy - 37 year old grown man who drove off a bridge and left the scene of the accident (where the victim suffocated inside the car, btw) and did not notify the police until the next morning

don't let your politics get in the way of this very important distinction

[Eel O'Brian]

don't see what's funny about that

people itt are comparing the two, when the circumstances were very different

[Smooth Groove]

Not me. I was just talking about Laura's case by itself.  Given her background, it just seems odd for her to blame God for her own stupidity.  How could any rational person make that kind of leap, that it was God who caused you to make that mistake and not your own self?

[Madrun Badrun]

That's the funny part

[Eel O'Brian]

well, godfuckers are weird, yes

[Great Rumbler]

Not me. I was just talking about Laura's case by itself.  Given her background, it just seems odd for her to blame God for her own stupidity.  How could any rational person make that kind of leap, that it was God who caused you to make that mistake and not your own self?

I didn't really get from that that she blamed God for what happened, just that it caused her to question whether God even existed in the first place.

[Mandark]

Seems like a very teenage reaction:  Dealing with feelings of guilt by creating a scenario in your head in which you're the Real Victim, and other people (or in this case, God) don't understand/won't support you.

[The Fake Shemp]

I swore I heard that she used to date the guy she killed or wanted to date him or they broke up and then she murdered him.

[Smooth Groove]

That's a lot more interesting than her account.  Write that script, Wilco.

[Stoney Mason]

Who cares either way. It's the First Lady. The most overdone media position that is possible. The American equivalent of royalty since the only reason we care about this person is because of who she is fucking.

Same goes for Laura Bush or Michelle Obama. Unless they have some actual political influence or thoughts like maybe Hillary did, why would I care about these people.

[The Fake Shemp]

Sounds like murder to me:

Michael Douglas, the young man who was killed, had been a member of Laura Welch's crowd at high school and her friend. He had been a star athlete, excelling in track and football, and was looked up to by his peers not just for his athlete prowess, but for his personality and intelligence too. By all reports, he was likeable, outgoing, and funny. He was nominated as the school's most popular boy while a junior, an honor that almost always went to a senior.

There has always been speculation about the nature of his relationship with Laura Welch. One rumor asserts the two had never dated, but that Laura had been romantically interested in him. Another claims he had been Laura's boyfriend when he died, and another that he had once been her boyfriend but the couple had subsequently broken up. (The latter theory is advanced in the 2002 biography of the Bushes, George and Laura: Portrait of an American Marriage, which states Laura Welch and Michael Douglas had dated throughout early and mid-1963, but by the fall of that year Michael was going out with Regan Gammon, one of Miss Welch's closest friends.)

The accident is difficult to understand it that it took place on a clear night on dry pavement at a crossroads described as "the middle of nowhere," where the view was unobstructed and the stop sign that faced Laura Welch was clearly visible.

... Sounds like they had a thing going on, he dumped her for her best friend and she murdered him.

[Mandark]

Read the article.  That accusation of poisoning in Germany is pretty weird.  Also, the reporter screws up the year Katrina happened.

[The Fake Shemp]

Who cares either way. It's the First Lady.

So, I take it, the First Lady is allowed to get away with murder?

[Stoney Mason]

Who cares either way. It's the First Lady.

So, I take it, the First Lady is allowed to get away with murder?

Vince Foster says yes!

[Smooth Groove]

Who cares either way. It's the First Lady.

So, I take it, the First Lady is allowed to get away with murder?

Yeah, what the hell?  She's not an Icon!

[Great Rumbler]

Who cares either way. It's the First Lady.

So, I take it, the First Lady is allowed to get away with murder?

Yeah, what the hell?  She's not an Icon!

Icons get away with murder* every single day.

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*virtual murder

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[The Fake Shemp]

I murder people in the digital realm.

[CajoleJuice]

laura bush - 17 year old stupid kid who ran a stop sign and stayed until police arrived

ted kennedy - 37 year old grown man who drove off a bridge and left the scene of the accident (where the victim suffocated inside the car, btw) and did not notify the police until the next morning

don't let your politics get in the way of this very important distinction

[Stoney Mason]

Many religious people aren't much beyond Santa God.

It makes them feel good. That's pretty much what religion is. Which would/is be fine as long as they leave it to themselves.

[Van Cruncheon]

god hates women drivers

[Van Cruncheon]

dcharlie is about as astute about religion as Bill Maher. 

which would still make him more astute than any religiotard

[brawndolicious]

The Romulans.

[Brehvolution]

Someone prayed on 9/12 and all we got was glenn beck. 

[Phoenix Dark]

It's OK when Laura Bush killed a person by being a shitty driver, but Ted Kennedy is the devil himself for what happened.

To be fair, Bush did something many people are guilty of - running a stop sign. Kennedy got drunk, drove into a lake, then left the scene, passing multiple houses where he could have called for help. Bush is negligent in her case, Kennedy was a piece of shit

[Smooth Groove]

pointing at Kennedy and saying "well he was worse!" doesn't particularly change anything though right?
I wonder if Kennedy lost his faith too? Poor guy.

At least he didn't lose his appetite. 

[Phoenix Dark]

You're right, it doesn't. I'm just pointing out there's quite a difference between the situations, so calls of hypocrisy for either side ring hollow. It had a great impact on Kennedy and he became a changed man eventually; anyone who uses it as an excuse to hate a man who accomplished so much good is a partisan hack.

[Great Rumbler]

back to the plot, what sort of bullshit is it that when you fuck up running a stop sign killing someone that you then LOSE YOUR FAITH IN GOD ?

This is not some random chaotic accident here, YOU fucked up and caused an accident, what the fuck does GOD have to do with your fuck ups?

17 year olds aren't exactly the most rational people in the world. And I imagine that killing someone at 17, especially someone that you knew quite well, is a pretty traumatic experience.

[Oblivion]

"You know, they're underprivileged anyway, so this--this (chuckles slightly) is working very well for them."

[Bloodwake]

dcharlie is about as astute about religion as Bill Maher. 

which would still make him more astute than any religiotard

As someone who used to be a devout member of the church and then actually STUDIED religion in college for a semester or two, I would have to say that Prole's assessment is 100% is correct.

[Cormacaroni]

As someone who used to be a devout member of the church and then actually STUDIED religion in college for a semester or two, I would have to say that Prole's assessment is 100% is correct.

just to add, i was raised a roman catholic in a family with an irish background, i also passed my religious studies exam.

"Irish background"