Author Topic: How is Fallout 3's third person view mode? (Read 9975 times)

Ichirou · « **on:** May 02, 2010, 06:21:42 AM »

I'm thinking of getting the game since a friend told me it has third person view, but I wanna know if it's any good or if it was just thrown in as an afterthought and doesn't really help from a playability aspect.

I can't play first person shooters (I get nauseous if I stare at the screen too long for some reason) so I was gonna skip it but then a friend of mine told me about the third person thing.

MCD · « **Reply #1 on:** May 02, 2010, 06:24:11 AM »

Quote from: Ichirou on May 02, 2010, 06:21:42 AM

I can't play first person shooters (I get nauseous if I stare at the screen too long for some reason)

and it's a bethesda game, don't bother.

Ichirou · « **Reply #2 on:** May 02, 2010, 06:30:47 AM »

I was looking for a bit more details than that, dude.

pilonv1 · « **Reply #3 on:** May 02, 2010, 06:35:02 AM »

It's playable, but that's about the best you can say. At least you have VATS

Ichirou · « **Reply #4 on:** May 02, 2010, 06:39:49 AM »

So basically you're saying it sucks?

Ichirou · « **Reply #5 on:** May 02, 2010, 06:47:04 AM »

Good to know. Will skip.

Ichirou · « **Reply #6 on:** May 02, 2010, 06:54:38 AM »

My friend's in Puerto Rico, while I'm in Japan. My friend has a US 360, while I have a Japanese one, and the US Fallout 3 isn't compatible with Japanese systems.

I'll skip it. Plenty of other games around anyway.

pilonv1 · « **Reply #7 on:** May 02, 2010, 07:09:01 AM »

If you like well done animations you'll probably hate it.

brawndolicious · « **Reply #8 on:** May 02, 2010, 07:10:11 AM »

As far as combat, it works for short range/melee. And the VATS system is good enough to keep you from needing to switch for long-range. You will need to be in first person for indoor exploration and for picking up items though.

huckleberry · « **Reply #9 on:** May 02, 2010, 08:37:53 AM »

For all intents and purposes the 3rd person view is useless because of the need to switch back and forth. The game is not very enjoyable in 3rd person - I tried to play it that way and after an hour or so switched back to 1st for good.

OptimoPeach · « **Reply #10 on:** May 02, 2010, 09:58:15 AM »

It's awful unless you don't mind your character walking around like a marionette

Ichirou · « **Reply #11 on:** May 02, 2010, 10:36:55 AM »

Fuck Bethesda.

Human Snorenado · « **Reply #12 on:** May 02, 2010, 10:38:39 AM »

Yeah, 3rd person view is terribad in Fallout 3. Sac up and eat some dramamine or whatever and play it in 1st person.

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #13 on:** May 02, 2010, 10:54:08 AM »

Quote from: Вiff Кoммiёslaуer on May 02, 2010, 10:38:39 AM

Sac up and eat some dramamine or whatever and play it in 1st person.

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Ichirou · « **Reply #14 on:** May 02, 2010, 11:00:21 AM »

Or just skip the fucking thing and play something else.

I kinda wanna play Bioshock more than Fallout 3...but fuckin' FPS games, man. Fuckin' FPS games.

Third · « **Reply #15 on:** May 02, 2010, 11:02:25 AM »

The game is awesome in 1st person mode.
I only use 3rd person mode when a beast is chasing me in an open field. You get a better perspective of the chase that way.

Himu · « **Reply #16 on:** May 02, 2010, 11:06:50 AM »

Ichi

This means you can't play games like Portal?

Vizzys · « **Reply #17 on:** May 02, 2010, 11:11:15 AM »

its related to field of view for some people

most games have a default of 90 now which is pretty good

Himu · « **Reply #18 on:** May 02, 2010, 11:12:32 AM »

Perhaps the fact you can look around with the mouse or right stick has fixed it. This means you don't have to stare at the same area in the screen.

fistfulofmetal · « **Reply #19 on:** May 02, 2010, 11:13:47 AM »

i only played in third person.
the first person in Fallout 3 is garbage.

OptimoPeach · « **Reply #20 on:** May 02, 2010, 11:35:57 AM »

Quote from: Ichirou on May 02, 2010, 11:00:21 AM

Or just skip the fucking thing and play something else.

I kinda wanna play Bioshock more than Fallout 3...but fuckin' FPS games, man. Fuckin' FPS games.

Just play it. VATS should be enough to mitigate whatever motion sickness you get from other FPSs unless you're a total pansy

Quote from: fistfulofmetal on May 02, 2010, 11:13:47 AM

i only played in third person.
the first person in Fallout 3 is garbage.

Himu · « **Reply #21 on:** May 02, 2010, 11:38:38 AM »

Quote from: fistfulofmetal on May 02, 2010, 11:13:47 AM

i only played in third person.
the first person in Fallout 3 is garbage.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #22 on:** May 02, 2010, 11:40:13 AM »

The third person is poor in all Bethesda games because they are very poor when it comes to animation. It also doesn't help that the world is a very varied 3-D landscape where it would be hard to match up a lot of the animations properly even if they were good at that which they aren't.

It's not impossible to play in third person. Most people don't simply because they don't want their character to walk around looking like a dork. Same with oblivion.

BlueTsunami · « **Reply #23 on:** May 02, 2010, 02:00:25 PM »

You should get it Ichi, its a great game. As far as third person view, it sucks but its not like it effects how VATS works (which is what I used most of the time, unless the enemy is an easy kill).

Quote from: Viz on May 02, 2010, 11:11:15 AM

its related to field of view for some people

most games have a default of 90 now which is pretty good

Having played Morrowind recently and messing with the FoV, the damn game feels like it has a default FoV of like 50.

huckleberry · « **Reply #24 on:** May 02, 2010, 02:05:13 PM »

Yeah you should definitely get it. I have gotten sick from 1st person console games before...none of that in Fallout. Just stick to the fighting in VATS and you are golden.
Such an awesome game.

Robo · « **Reply #25 on:** May 02, 2010, 02:06:45 PM »

I played the game mostly in 3rd person, only really switching to first when I got into corridors. The animation isn't that bad if you keep the lower body out of frame so you can't see the floaty running not matching to the terrain. I think I kept the view about in the same place as where Dead Space's main character is positioned.

Smooth Groove · « **Reply #26 on:** May 02, 2010, 03:15:26 PM »

WTF's wrong with you motion sickness pussies? Do you walk around in 3rd person mode?

huckleberry · « **Reply #27 on:** May 02, 2010, 03:42:29 PM »

It's only happened to me on a few games over the years. Doom 32X would make me jucking hurl. So would the 1st and 2nd Metroid games for GameCube. $:-\$

Positive Touch · « **Reply #28 on:** May 02, 2010, 04:15:06 PM »

playing doom 32x would make anyone hurl

Mr. Gundam · « **Reply #29 on:** May 02, 2010, 04:35:11 PM »

I got extremely sick watching a friend play Halo 2 once. I have no problem playing FPS's, though.

huckleberry · « **Reply #30 on:** May 02, 2010, 04:43:37 PM »

I have randomly gotten sick playing or watching people play fps games over the years - but rarely. Usually I was hungover.

A few though are fucking hurlcoasters.

Madrun Badrun · « **Reply #31 on:** May 02, 2010, 05:25:05 PM »

Quote from: Mr. Gundam on May 02, 2010, 04:35:11 PM

I got extremely sick watching a friend play Halo 2 once. I have no problem playing FPS's, though.

I can get sick watching games, but playing them is just fine.

Mr. Gundam · « **Reply #32 on:** May 02, 2010, 05:40:34 PM »

Quote from: Father_Mike on May 02, 2010, 05:25:05 PM

Quote from: Mr. Gundam on May 02, 2010, 04:35:11 PM
I got extremely sick watching a friend play Halo 2 once. I have no problem playing FPS's, though.

I can get sick watching games, but playing them is just fine.

Yeah, it really messed with me since I expected the character to move one way, but my friend did something else. Same thing has happened watching friends play Left 4 Dead.

BlueTsunami · « **Reply #33 on:** May 02, 2010, 06:03:11 PM »

The only FPS that ever gave me issues was Black on PS2. Didn't it have some prehistoric (tech wise) blurring going on? Made my eyes hurt.

Eel O'Brian · « **Reply #34 on:** May 02, 2010, 10:58:02 PM »

i thought it worked better than oblivion, if you kept it zoomed in to waist-level

it was fun to switch to every once in a while to see yourself limping like a gimp whenever you would get crippled, or to check yourself out and laugh while wearing some dicked-up costume

chronovore · « **Reply #35 on:** May 02, 2010, 11:35:47 PM »

Some people get sick in any first-person perspective game, regardless of frame of view. Sometimes it's no problem just if placed in third-person, sometimes not. I tend to think it's FOV and framerate more than anything else.

If you play on a PC, you can find an optimal settings and resolution for the framerate, and commonly the command-line console will allow for FOV adjustment as well.

cool breeze · « **Reply #36 on:** May 02, 2010, 11:45:33 PM »

yeah, if a game ever messes with my head, it usually has to do a choppy frame rate or narrow fov. The fov thing is one of those things that is more common because games are designed for people who play on their couch a few feet from their TV (as opposed to nerds sitting inches from their monitors

) and it technically does make sense to have a narrow fov in that situation.

about Fallout 3 third person, it is completely playable in that style even if it isn't ideal. The only problem you'd have is if you tried to play it like an action shooter, which you shouldn't because VATS is great.

chronovore · « **Reply #37 on:** May 02, 2010, 11:52:34 PM »

Yeah, VATS is the way to go, but I was always running out of VATS time.

Also, +1 vote for Fallout 3's player-character animations in 3rd person being a joke. IIRC they move the torso the same as if you'd had a FPS-style of movement, then interpolate the feet to an approximately correct animation.

The third person hack for Mirror's Edge was nearly identically bad.

Bebpo · « **Reply #38 on:** May 07, 2010, 11:41:37 PM »

Since we have a bumped fallout 3 thread, someone was posting pics of F3 running with some mods and holy crap at this picture. Man, Fallout 3 with crazy good lighting engine would have made it so much more immersive.

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #39 on:** May 08, 2010, 01:30:54 AM »

Post links to mods, please.

Bebpo · « **Reply #40 on:** May 08, 2010, 01:46:02 AM »

the dude in the gaf thread hasn't posted which ones he's using yet.

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #41 on:** May 08, 2010, 01:51:40 AM »

Quote from: Bebpo on May 08, 2010, 01:46:02 AM

the dude in the gaf thread hasn't posted which ones he's using yet.

bork · « **Reply #42 on:** May 08, 2010, 07:08:58 AM »

Ichi, if you have a decent enough PC, get the PC version instead. You can even play it using a 360 controller. The mods make it all worth it...they even have mods to change the animations and make them look better.

Ichirou · « **Reply #43 on:** May 08, 2010, 07:17:31 AM »

I have a netbook, dude.

bork · « **Reply #44 on:** May 08, 2010, 07:25:39 AM »

Quote from: Ichirou on May 08, 2010, 07:17:31 AM

I have a netbook, dude.

Which one? I do too and it's very playable.

Although if you bought it in Japan I take it it's probably not that powerful. I didn't even see the model I have for sale in stores over there.

Ichirou · « **Reply #45 on:** May 08, 2010, 08:04:34 AM »

An Aspire One. It was like $300 at Costco.

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #46 on:** May 08, 2010, 11:47:04 AM »

Just found a pretty awesome mod:

Cube Experimental Station

There's also a lot more quest mods here:

http://www.fallout3nexus.com/downloads/cat.php?id=77&page=1

chronovore · « **Reply #47 on:** May 09, 2010, 11:37:12 AM »

If the lighting looks as oppressive as it does in that pic, I couldn't play it because it would freak me the hell out.

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #48 on:** May 09, 2010, 12:25:34 PM »

I figured out which mods are being used in that picture.

Fellout
http://www.fallout3nexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=2672

Fallout Street Lights
http://www.fallout3nexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=8069

Fallout Street Lights - Wasteland
http://www.fallout3nexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=10045

Positive Touch · « **Reply #49 on:** May 09, 2010, 01:43:37 PM »

oh my god

does anyone have a spare compter they are willing to donate

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Author Topic: How is Fallout 3's third person view mode? (Read 9975 times)