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« on: May 10, 2010, 08:17:33 PM »
One of the Golden Age comics I have listed on ebay has been bid up to twice what I paid for it, and more than what it's worth. I don't understand ebay bidders sometimes, but considering what I've sold so far has gone for much less than book value and less than what I initially paid - *shrug*

Also got a message from someone claiming I had overgraded a book, based on the pictures I posted, and that he wants it but won't pay more than $20 for it because it's MAYBE worth that much (which is $25 less than what I paid for it years ago, and $20 less than what I started the bidding at) according to his online price guide which no dealer in their right mind uses and when I got curious and checked found out he was lying about.  I already have a bid for the $39.99 price I listed.  I destroyed him with math and lulz and blocked him from ever bidding on one of my auctions.  Dude pissed me off, I collected from 1985-2005 and was burned enough times by scumbag dealers that I'd never do that to anyone else.

So two hoorays for me today.
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Re: Ebay, you're weird
« Reply #1 on: May 10, 2010, 09:30:37 PM »
I listed some Magic cards that I bought for $.50 each and are now selling for about $20 for a set of four.  Go go profit!
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« Reply #2 on: May 10, 2010, 09:32:55 PM »
Free-market capitalism  :tophat
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« Reply #3 on: May 10, 2010, 09:36:58 PM »
I listed some Magic cards that I bought for $.50 each and are now selling for about $20 for a set of four.  Go go profit!

What card was it? I would have liked to have been one of the guys who bought a fuckton of Tarmogoyfs (http://www.magiccards.info/query?q=tarmogoyf&v=card&s=cname) for a buck each. :lol
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« Reply #4 on: May 10, 2010, 09:57:31 PM »
I listed some Magic cards that I bought for $.50 each and are now selling for about $20 for a set of four.  Go go profit!

What card was it? I would have liked to have been one of the guys who bought a fuckton of Tarmogoyfs (http://www.magiccards.info/query?q=tarmogoyf&v=card&s=cname) for a buck each. :lol

Sovereigns of Lost Alara, in the Mythic Conscription deck.  You can potentially drop one turn 3 and swing with an 11/12 Birds of Paradise.  Spicy!  The card came out of literally no where (.50 crap rare) to be in a tier one deck overnight, and I jumped on it and bought up 8 from cardkingdom.com at the aforementioned half a dollar. 
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« Reply #5 on: May 10, 2010, 10:00:41 PM »
But soon you'll have an iPad!

not for a while, this money is still going towards personal business

this is the comic that one dude was bitching about


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« Reply #6 on: May 10, 2010, 10:01:21 PM »
But soon you'll have an iPad!

not for a while, this money is still going towards personal business

this is the comic that one dude was bitching about

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Perry Como?  :lol
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« Reply #7 on: May 10, 2010, 10:07:36 PM »
I wanted to own a golden age Superman comic, and that one was affordable, plus it has a hilarious cover where it appears Superman is going to knock the shit out of Lois for making eyes at Perry Como.

I mainly collected Captain Marvel Adventures, and Plastic Man/Police Comics, but I would occasionally pick up something oddball if I found a good deal.  I quit collecting Golden Age stuff years ago when even the lower-grade issues (which is all I ever bought) priced themselves out of my reach.

Does Perry Como kick Superman's ass?

sadly, no

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« Reply #8 on: May 10, 2010, 10:08:14 PM »
I listed some Magic cards that I bought for $.50 each and are now selling for about $20 for a set of four.  Go go profit!

I got a playset of Knight of the Reliquary last year for $6.00. Now I'm working on trading them for some revised dual lands. :rock

Just had some ninthing buy out a copy of Jet Force Gemini and Mario Golf 64 complete in box for $60 total. Cash for trash indeed.
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« Reply #9 on: May 10, 2010, 10:12:02 PM »
Damn Frag I woulda bought that Mario Golf 64.
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« Reply #10 on: May 10, 2010, 10:18:56 PM »
i think this one might bring me some decent $, i have 15 people watching it right now



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« Reply #11 on: May 10, 2010, 10:21:21 PM »
Damn Eel, found your listings on ebay. Those comics are cheddar. I bet ebay fees are gonna eat you up though.
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« Reply #12 on: May 10, 2010, 10:24:56 PM »
yeah, they've been killing me so far

i don't have much up right now, took a weeklong break after listing a ton of stuff - taking pictures, regrading, writing up the listings(you have to note all defects on stuff like this), and packing those old comics up for shipment is more time-consuming than i thought
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« Reply #13 on: May 10, 2010, 10:28:17 PM »
Prices on ebay are certainly a strange animal. I sold my Mass Effect 2 Collector's Armor dlc code for $35, which almost doubles the price difference between the collectors edition and standard edition of the game. I've also sold some other games for more than retail value during well advertised sales.
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« Reply #14 on: May 10, 2010, 10:29:27 PM »
this is the one that's going for more than it's worth

http://cgi.ebay.com/Daredevil-Comics-8-March-1942-Dick-Briefer-Art-/280504759393?cmd=ViewItem&pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item414f62f461

i sort of feel bad in a way, that comic is beat up as fuck
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« Reply #15 on: May 10, 2010, 10:54:30 PM »
Yeah, I don't get Ebay either.  A few years ago, a buyer thanked me profusely after I sold him a used videocard for $15 more than the retail price for a new one. 

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« Reply #16 on: May 10, 2010, 10:57:43 PM »
:lol
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« Reply #17 on: May 10, 2010, 11:00:16 PM »
I listed some Magic cards that I bought for $.50 each and are now selling for about $20 for a set of four.  Go go profit!

I got a playset of Knight of the Reliquary last year for $6.00. Now I'm working on trading them for some revised dual lands. :rock

Just had some ninthing buy out a copy of Jet Force Gemini and Mario Golf 64 complete in box for $60 total. Cash for trash indeed.

:rock

Nothing beats my buddy spotting the awesomeness of Stone Forge Mystic and Basilisk Collar before Worldwake even released and pre-ordering like 50 of each from Starcity at rock bottom prices, though.
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« Reply #18 on: May 11, 2010, 12:16:49 AM »
I wanted to own a golden age Superman comic, and that one was affordable, plus it has a hilarious cover where it appears Superman is going to knock the shit out of Lois for making eyes at Perry Como.

I mainly collected Captain Marvel Adventures, and Plastic Man/Police Comics, but I would occasionally pick up something oddball if I found a good deal.  I quit collecting Golden Age stuff years ago when even the lower-grade issues (which is all I ever bought) priced themselves out of my reach.

Does Perry Como kick Superman's ass?

sadly, no


Newsflash: that is some oddball sheeeit.

I was a contemporary collector in 1983-1985, then sold my collection to finance a trip. Stuff would probably be worth quite a bit now, but going on a trip sure seems like a better deal than nine long boxes now. Now unless the comic is in clear and present danger of having its singles run ended, I stick with trade paperbacks which will never be collectible.   :(

What's the deal with eBay fees? I never had much of a problem with them, but I haven't been on ebay on 10 years.

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« Reply #19 on: May 11, 2010, 01:28:01 AM »
captain marvel and plastic man aren't oddball amongst golden age collectors

captain marvel adventures used to regularly outsell superman during the 40s, and jack cole's plastic man is held in high regard even by the snoots at the new yorker

ebay final value fees are asshole high now since the spring fee change
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« Reply #20 on: May 11, 2010, 02:01:59 AM »
I wanted to own a golden age Superman comic, and that one was affordable, plus it has a hilarious cover where it appears Superman is going to knock the shit out of Lois for making eyes at Perry Como.

I mainly collected Captain Marvel Adventures, and Plastic Man/Police Comics, but I would occasionally pick up something oddball if I found a good deal.  I quit collecting Golden Age stuff years ago when even the lower-grade issues (which is all I ever bought) priced themselves out of my reach.

Does Perry Como kick Superman's ass?

sadly, no


Newsflash: that is some oddball sheeeit.

I was a contemporary collector in 1983-1985, then sold my collection to finance a trip. Stuff would probably be worth quite a bit now, but going on a trip sure seems like a better deal than nine long boxes now. Now unless the comic is in clear and present danger of having its singles run ended, I stick with trade paperbacks which will never be collectible.   :(

What's the deal with eBay fees? I never had much of a problem with them, but I haven't been on ebay on 10 years.

eBay fees arent a problem, to me. It's the fact that you get charged twice - once from ebay, the second from paypal - who is owned by ebay. Plus you cant accept other forms of payment.
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« Reply #21 on: May 11, 2010, 02:40:40 AM »
So, I've been thinking of selling some... junk... around the house in my quest to buy an Xbox360.  (I now consider myself a loser for never owning any next-gen consoles above the Wii.)

Any thoughts on this?  Is Ebay worth it?  A lot of the stuff I'm considering selling is stuff that's been picked up at auctions by my father-in-law and that he finds no need to sell, but doesn't care if it stays or not.  Tips or advice?
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« Reply #22 on: May 11, 2010, 07:04:25 AM »
I've had good luck selling stuff here and at GAF, which circumvents the listing fees. I would try there before putting stuff on the bay
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« Reply #23 on: May 11, 2010, 08:05:37 AM »


captain marvel adventures used to regularly outsell superman during the 40s, and jack cole's plastic man is held in high regard even by the snoots at the new yorker


well, Art Spiegleman anyway who helped create the "i don't read comics, i read graphic novels" contingency
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« Reply #24 on: May 11, 2010, 09:32:40 AM »
nevertheless, jack cole's plastic man is awesome, and recommended (by me) even to people who don't read comics

sometimes it is like reading a tex avery cartoon

one of the first plastic man stories has him being captured by a bunch of vaguely lesbian female gangsters who make him smoke a bunch of "reefers" which make him go crazy and take off on a shooting spree

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« Reply #25 on: May 11, 2010, 09:36:21 AM »
oh, i agree, but it's very easy to walk back a lot of current literary mainstreaming of comics to Art and especially Maus.  "Bang Pow Comics aren't Just for Arrested Development Man Babies Anymore!" and all that.

Are you familiar with Milt Grossman?  I just wrapped up a book that collected all of his comic book work and it's in the same vein as the Jack Cole in tone, but not content.
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« Reply #26 on: May 11, 2010, 09:38:47 AM »
I've had good luck selling stuff here and at GAF, which circumvents the listing fees. I would try there before putting stuff on the bay

I realize that it's a direct result of our much smaller community, but I wish the buy/sell thread here was more active. Mostly just because I love reading through shit I could buy. It only ever seems to pop up when I have no money to burn.  :'(

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« Reply #27 on: May 11, 2010, 09:44:07 AM »
So, I've been thinking of selling some... junk... around the house in my quest to buy an Xbox360.  (I now consider myself a loser for never owning any next-gen consoles above the Wii.)

Any thoughts on this?  Is Ebay worth it?  A lot of the stuff I'm considering selling is stuff that's been picked up at auctions by my father-in-law and that he finds no need to sell, but doesn't care if it stays or not.  Tips or advice?

Hey cutie. What kind of junk? Try local. Set up a Garage Sale, advertise it in the paper. Post stuff in the paper. CraigsList (you would be surprised how many people use this - even in a ghetto like Toledo).

Do research on eBay for stuff first. Look up recent completed auctions for your product to see a good idea if its worth putting up. If I had the money I'd buy you a 360 right now.
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« Reply #28 on: May 11, 2010, 09:45:52 AM »
oh, i agree, but it's very easy to walk back a lot of current literary mainstreaming of comics to Art and especially Maus.  "Bang Pow Comics aren't Just for Arrested Development Man Babies Anymore!" and all that.

Are you familiar with Milt Grossman?  I just wrapped up a book that collected all of his comic book work and it's in the same vein as the Jack Cole in tone, but not content.

I'm familiar with the name, but can't recall ever reading any of his stuff.  What's the collection called? Also recommended - Sparky Watts by Boody Rogers, a dead-on hilariously weird early parody of Superhero comics:

http://www.amazon.com/Boody-Bizarre-Comics-Rogers/dp/1560979615

A lot of people are digging Fletcher Hanks stuff nowadays because he was so goddamned weird, but I never thought it was that great (his stories were only that weird and nonsensical because he was a raving alcoholic)

http://www.amazon.com/Shall-Destroy-All-Civilized-Planets/dp/1560978392

http://www.amazon.com/You-Shall-Your-Evil-Creation/dp/1606991604
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« Reply #29 on: May 11, 2010, 09:52:49 AM »
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« Reply #30 on: May 11, 2010, 09:56:39 AM »
I've had good luck selling stuff here and at GAF, which circumvents the listing fees. I would try there before putting stuff on the bay

Neo-Geo.com is another good place.  Try to sell your stuff on forums first, for free, before resorting to eBay.

The last two items I listed didn't sell.  The buyer on one of them won the auction, gave me flaky responses, and then stopped responding.  What's worse is that he wasn't from the States and I specifically stated in the auction that I'd only ship within the continental U.S.   :-\ 

One game I listed is pretty rare and is listed on eBay for $300-$400.  I had it posted for $175 and still got no takers.   :'(
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« Reply #31 on: May 11, 2010, 11:05:15 AM »
Eric, is this the collection?

http://www.amazon.com/Complete-Gross-Comic-Books-Story/dp/1600105467

Yah, that's the one. 

and i understand why people like fletcher hanks, but let's face it, if it weren't for the publisher's superb ability to market, it wouldn't have gotten as big as it has within the community.
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« Reply #32 on: May 11, 2010, 01:25:58 PM »
So, I've been thinking of selling some... junk... around the house in my quest to buy an Xbox360.  (I now consider myself a loser for never owning any next-gen consoles above the Wii.)

Any thoughts on this?  Is Ebay worth it?  A lot of the stuff I'm considering selling is stuff that's been picked up at auctions by my father-in-law and that he finds no need to sell, but doesn't care if it stays or not.  Tips or advice?

 :lol Wii being "next gen"  :lol

I agree with Demi, hit up Craigslist.  There's some interesting folks on there.  I bought some cheap magic cards that way.
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« Reply #33 on: May 11, 2010, 03:41:15 PM »
So Demi, how many pictures of my "junk" would it take to pay for a 360?  :-*
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« Reply #34 on: May 11, 2010, 03:48:45 PM »
Depends on how far you're willing to go
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« Reply #35 on: May 11, 2010, 03:58:33 PM »
Depends on how far you're willing to go
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« Reply #36 on: May 14, 2010, 10:33:29 PM »
update:

two of the comics are now going for crazy prices, and i expect one will go even crazier as there are 25 people currently watching it

this makes me feel a little better about losing money on some of the earlier stuff i listed (still kicking myself in the ass for letting go of those police/plastic man comics for so cheap, shouldn't have put a buy it now price on them)
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« Reply #37 on: May 16, 2010, 09:25:50 PM »
Well, hopefully I won't get screwed here.  One of my books got bumped up to $169 at the last second by a new (less than 2 weeks) ebay member with a 0 rating.  It takes around two weeks to file/clear up a nonpaying bidder claim and free it up for relisting or second chance offers.   I've already had to do it once so far :-\
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« Reply #38 on: May 16, 2010, 09:28:13 PM »
here's hoping!
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« Reply #39 on: May 16, 2010, 09:37:27 PM »
If I were just selling this stuff off to buy other things it wouldn't be so bothersome (although still annoying), but i'm selling it to pay off debts, and while I am dealing with trying to get my money interest and fees keep mounting.

Ebay really ought to let you set feedback/join date requirements for bidders.  The dude who stiffed me on the two books he won had a 4 rating.  As it stands now, you can only block people who have negative feedback, live in countries you don't ship to, or have multiple nonpaying strikes against them - and since sellers can no longer leave negative feedback for buyers, that particular setting isn't really worth shit.  For these types of expensive books I'd personally require a feedback of at least 20, unless the person who wanted to bid personally contacted me.

Ebay doesn't give a fuck about the sellers, which is weird considering that's who they earn 100% of their money from.
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« Reply #40 on: May 16, 2010, 09:47:42 PM »
On the bright side, all my stuff sold for way the hell more than I thought it would!
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« Reply #41 on: May 25, 2010, 07:40:08 PM »
as expected, had to file a nonpaying bidder case against that guy so i can get a refund/credit on my fees
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« Reply #42 on: May 26, 2010, 08:18:58 AM »
It's too bad there's no easy way to use Amazon reseller for your stuff. It seems like there would be a mess of traffic there, or even tangential hits from their Recommendation feature. Everything seems to flow so smoothly from search to purchase on Amazon, eBay feels like putting my feet intentionally into a pile of poop.  :yuck

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« Reply #43 on: May 26, 2010, 11:43:43 AM »
yeah, you can't really list eclectic stuff like old comics on amazon, i would if i could

i just wish if someone was going to stiff me on ebay they'd just come right out and tell me so i could go ahead and start the process instead of waiting forever

it's not like i can leave bad feedback or anything, i just want to free it up so i can sell it to someone else

i even emailed the guy and asked when i should expect my money and he wrote back "Tomorrow, thx" - three days later, nothing
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« Reply #44 on: May 27, 2010, 04:40:03 PM »
Well, another day, another bunch of BS.  I received one of my comics back in the mail today.  No note inside or anything, was repacked in the same box I shipped it, had the dude's last name and return address written on it with an $11.30 postmark, delivery confirmation, and a bunch of two-cent stamps plastered all over the front.  I wrote him an email asking him what the deal was, then thought to check the Paypal transaction.  Unconfirmed address.  So either whoever received it was both honest and generous, or he sent it back without an explanation.

Man, I was so happy just a few days ago that all my auctions ended so unexpectedly high, and now I've had problems with the two that ended highest :(
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« Reply #45 on: May 27, 2010, 04:50:46 PM »
I've always had decent auction experiences but I've never dealt with "collector" items.  Maybe it's because the buyers are just anuses or the value/rarity of the items automatically attracts the scammers.

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« Reply #46 on: May 27, 2010, 04:52:02 PM »
i think it's a little of both
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« Reply #47 on: May 27, 2010, 11:47:40 PM »
man, posted the sale of computer shizzle on craigslist, and UH MAH GAWD i got like 10 mails from ten different accounts saying "i need you to send this asap since i am moving soon/going out to sea (???)/going to college/traveling in the sudan (???), i will paypal you for this" to which i said "lulz no"
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« Reply #48 on: May 28, 2010, 12:37:48 AM »
you can only accept paypal on ebay, and it's easily scammable.  All someone has to do is claim they never got something (which is why you always do delivery confirmation), or the item wasn't what they bid on, or any of a thousand other lies, and paypal will automatically refund them the money out of your account. 
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« Reply #49 on: May 28, 2010, 12:46:48 AM »
it didn't help that every response was within 10 minutes of the other from 1 AM to 3 AM PST and shared the same request, approach, and horrid grammar

maybe i should just go with ebay, but i don't wanna get burned for $1500 and have the attendant headache recouping my losses

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« Reply #50 on: May 28, 2010, 12:47:54 AM »
we need to do a borecast re: selling shit online, it's amazing the number of scams i'm discovering
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« Reply #51 on: May 28, 2010, 12:51:24 AM »
you can only accept paypal on ebay, and it's easily scammable.  All someone has to do is claim they never got something (which is why you always do delivery confirmation), or the item wasn't what they bid on, or any of a thousand other lies, and paypal will automatically refund them the money out of your account. 

I hate Paypal.
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« Reply #52 on: May 28, 2010, 09:41:28 AM »
that one dude finally paid!  i sent him a message telling him to just let me know next time if he's going to be a few days late with payment and i wouldn't file a nonpaying bidder report.  it's the only way sellers can get their fees credited back to them, and i'd already had two defaults in the past month.
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« Reply #53 on: May 29, 2010, 12:47:38 PM »
So today I got an email from the dude who returned the book:

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Hi:
I am glad to hear that you got the book back promptly and in acceptable condition. I did not think I needed to write a note since I had emailed you. I did not intend for the omission of a note to be out of the ordinary. I did in fact open the case, examine the book, contact you, wait for the reply and return it as soon as I could. I reused the package and the excellent packing material that you had used and relabeled it. At the time of the shipment there was not an unconfirmed address notice on it.
I did pay $11.50 to send it back because I wanted to make sure that you got it promptly and in the condition I received it in. [The reason for the $.20 worth of 2 cent stamps on it was because I had them and wanted to use them].
I hope everything is in order now.
Please refund the purchase price via paypal at your convenience.

Thing is, I never got an email from this guy at all explaining anything.  Pretty sure he's lying about that, since this email went through just fine.  Notice he never mentions why the comic was was returned in this email, either.  And I have a no refunds policy, which is clearly stated in the auction.  So, now I'm either going to have to go through the hassle of trying to get back my fees from ebay and refund the guy's money, or...I don't know what.  Should I contact ebay about this, or what?  I was going to write the guy back and tell him he ought to learn to read auction descriptions before he overbids on things, but I thought I'd ask around first.
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Fruitless Flailing Against An Inevitable Outcome
« Reply #54 on: May 29, 2010, 01:18:05 PM »
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12:56:59 PM  kparrott@ec.rr.com
Initial Question/Comment: Selling
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12:57:25 PM  kparrott@ec.rr.com
Hi
12:57:35 PM  kparrott@ec.rr.com
I have a problem with a bidder
12:58:04 PM  kparrott@ec.rr.com
He returned an item without contacting me first, no note in the package or anything, and I have a no returns policy
12:58:43 PM  kparrott@ec.rr.com
When I emailed him, he replied with an evasive email not mentioning why he returned it, and asked for a paypal refund
12:59:32 PM  kparrott@ec.rr.com
the item was fairly and accurately described, and although he may have overbid that shouldn't be my responsibility
12:59:45 PM  Karl O.
I understand. I would be glad to help you out on this. While I'm pulling up your account, are there any other questions or concerns I can help you with?
12:59:56 PM  kparrott@ec.rr.com
No, just this one, thank you
1:00:56 PM  kparrott@ec.rr.com
He claims to have sent an email and waited for a reply before he returned the item, but I never received any such email, sounds like a lie since the other email came through just fine
1:01:05 PM  Karl O.
Okay then! Buyers should contact you before they send back the item especially if you have no return policy. I would suggest contacting the buyer one last time so you can ask for an explanation. If that doesn't work, I would suggest reporting this buyer to our Trust and Safety team instead.
1:01:37 PM  kparrott@ec.rr.com
How are these things usually resolved?
1:02:15 PM  kparrott@ec.rr.com
Basically, I'm asking if it's going to be a waste of my time and paypal is just going to refund him the money no questions asked regardless of what i do
1:02:40 PM  Karl O.
Usually, they ask the buyer to complete the transaction instead or they take the appropriate action on the buyers account so that this doesn't happen again to the other sellers.
1:03:45 PM  kparrott@ec.rr.com
do you have a direct link to the Trust and Safety team page?
1:04:25 PM  Karl O.
I do, you can contact them by using the "email us" link near the bottom of this page: http://pages.ebay.com/help/contact_us/_base/result_3_6_10.html
1:05:46 PM  kparrott@ec.rr.com
Thanks. I sort of know how this is going to turn out no matter how much I protest, so can you tell me how to request a refund for my listing and final value fees after this is all over and he gets away with it?
1:06:46 PM  Karl O.
That's by requesting to cancel the transaction. Please use the "I want to cancel a transaction." option on this page if that's the option you do want to take:

http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ResolutionCenter
1:08:39 PM  kparrott@ec.rr.com
Thank you, I appreciate your time. It might be better for me to just refund the guy his money, since that's likely how it's going to end up anyway, and then report him to your trust and safety team.
1:09:06 PM  Karl O.
You're very welcome, that option would work as well. Were all of your questions answered today? I want to make sure that when this session ends, you leave the chat having all your concerns addressed.
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1:12:12 PM  kparrott@ec.rr.com
Yes, pretty much.
1:12:16 PM  kparrott@ec.rr.com
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Re: Ebay, you're weird
« Reply #55 on: May 29, 2010, 01:52:42 PM »
I havent had any problem selling or buying on CL. I just wish there were more people in this city selling awesome deals. It's all modded Wiis and Xboxes
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Eel O'Brian

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Re: Ebay, you're weird
« Reply #56 on: May 30, 2010, 01:00:33 AM »
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Hi,
 
I never received any email from you, and you're not telling me the reason for your return in this one.  I do have a no returns policy.  The comic was fairly and accurately described as being on the Fair/Good border, all flaws were listed, and there were many pictures in the auction.  I even listed the guide Good value, so any amount bid over that was up to the bidder.  Please explain your reason for returning.
 
- Kevin

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HI KEVIN:
I returned the item because I found it to be not as described in that the cover(s) were brittle and the description said that they were not brittle. This could not have been known from the scans.
I am sorry that you did not get my email and I did not notice that you had a no returns policy until now.
Do you intend to send a refund now that I have disclosed this information?
I am sorry if I this situation has annoyed you that was not what I intended when I sent it back to you. I thought there was no problem but at that time I sent it I did not realize that you never got my email.
Please tell me what you want to do now.
Lying Shithead
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Bullshit, CT 06066

He's full of shit.  I can roll that comic into a tube and it's fine.  "Brittle" in comic grading terms means that the paper can no longer be moved or flexed without chipping or breaking into pieces.  I've held plenty of brittle comics in my time.  I collected for 20 years, I know what brittle is.  He just way overbid on it and wants his money back.  Fucking cocksucker.  I'm going to give him his money back minus shipping costs (if he wants to give me negative feedback he can), report him to ebay, and block him from ever bidding on my stuff again.  I'm even going to comment on it when I relist it for auction, and take an extra picture of it rolled up. 
« Last Edit: May 30, 2010, 01:05:44 AM by Eel O'Brian »
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Eel O'Brian

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Re: Ebay, you're weird
« Reply #57 on: May 30, 2010, 10:27:03 AM »
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I don't think the comic is brittle. I can roll it into a tube, and it flexes fine without cracking or chipping when I do so. I've owned and handled brittle comics before, and this just doesn't fit the definition by Overstreet grading guidelines. You're obviously unhappy with it, though, so I will refund the purchase price. I have sent a request to cancel the transaction, you need to agree to it so that I can get my listing and final value fees back.

cancel transaction request

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This case has been opened by the seller with the following reason: Buyer is returning item for a refund.
Additional information provided by the seller: Buyer claims item was not as described - this is untrue, but I just don't want the hassle or time
waste of protesting and it inevitably ending in him getting his money back anyway.

:lol I don't know if he's going to respond or agree to that, but I'm not gonna lie when I'm in the right here

also reported him:

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This ebay bidder returned an item without contacting me first. I have a no returns policy. He claims he did contact me, but there are no such messages in my ebay inbox and I never received any direct emails. Sounds suspicious to me since every email after the reurn has gone through just fine. The item # is 280504759393. The comic was described fairly and accurately. Only after pressing the issue was I able to get him to tell me why he returned it. He claims the cover was brittle - it was not, and I can prove it through photographic or physical evidence. I am going to return his purchase price since that's what's inevitably going to happen anyway no matter how much I protest, but I am sending this report to you in the event that he leaves retaliatory feedback, so that I might have it removed.  Thank you.

Thing is, if he'd just contacted me first and told me he wasn't happy with the comic for one reason or another, I probably would have just been nice about it and refunded without question.  I've refunded one person's money in the past two months, and it was hassle-free and both of us were happy.  Guy even left me good feedback afterwards.  But this guy had to be a weasel, and this is what happens to weasels.
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muckhole

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Re: Ebay, you're weird
« Reply #58 on: May 30, 2010, 10:32:05 AM »
Damn. I've got a big old pile of stuff I've been meaning to try putting up on eBay for the longest time, but the more I read, the easier it keeps getting to procrastinate. Sadly, I've already tried Craigslist (at least the local alternative to it) without much success, so sooner or later I'm going to have to bite the bullet.
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Eel O'Brian

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Re: Ebay, you're weird
« Reply #59 on: May 30, 2010, 10:47:27 AM »
90% of the time it's been hassle-free (other than on my end with the usual grind of taking photos/listing/packing).  It's just the other 10% that eats up all your time, and it's a pain going through the process of getting fees credited back.   That's what pissed me off so much about this.  If he had contacted me ahead of time before returning the comic (I am certain he's lying about that), I could have gone ahead and opened a "cancel transaction" request while he was shipping it, so that I could get my fees back and refund his money when it got here.  Now we have to do this shit after the fact.  Not to mention this tied me up for days from relisting the book and potentially missing out on several other buyers while we sorted this out, when I could have relisted as soon as it came in the mail otherwise.  This dude has 1861 feedback and has been a member since 2000, I'd imagine he well knows the rules and how to read an auction.  He was just trying to be a cagey weasel.

Even though I have a no returns policy, I will still accept them if the buyer contacts me and asks.  I honestly have no problem with refunding money or taking returns.  I just have it in my listings to help avoid stuff like this, where someone will bid on something just to test it out for a day and then send it back without notice when they're done with it.
« Last Edit: May 30, 2010, 10:50:00 AM by Eel O'Brian »
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