Killzone 3 Confirmed (Gamepro Article)

[magus]

TripleA replies in this thread confuse me  

[Purple Filth]

Looks like Sony is going to be owning the competition at E3 again this year

When is E3 by the way? I thought it was this month, I need mah Metal Gear rising info

IIRC June 15th-17th

[Stoney Mason]

You know, I'm up for an awesome Killzone game and I'm willing to give the third one a shot. There are a couple of problems though:

- First game was complete and utter shit
- Second game had horrible controls and felt very slow

Yeah, not really hyped for this one but Naughty Dog involvement gives me hope. Those guys know how to make a fun game with solid controls.

I think graphically Killzone 2 was and still is an amazing game. I thought as an actual game though it wasn't quite so amazing. Good but not great.

Especially the controls and the input lag.

[TripleA]

TripleA is my new favorite poster.

So is my alt.

So you think I'm Methodis.

No. I think you have the same lame gimmick as Methodis

Which is

Playing stupid like you are doing now and being a raging fanboy.

At this point I will drop it though simply because unlike you I generally want threads to be about game discussion rather than fanboy shit. Perhaps you can remember what that was before you became what you are.

Playing stupid? Sorry, you must have me confused with your reflection.

Now, as for the last sentence; that was really deep  :himu

[maxy]

I think that Naughty Dog involvement is not about making the game better.
3D is the key...Killzone 2 didn't even have split-screen,tough work to be done

But post-processing runs at 360p upscaled,so they will have no problems with that.

One more thing

This will probably be a showcase 3D title for Sony,together with GT5(zzz,racing game,no guns,no explosions)

It doesn't have much real word hype,but it has rabid hardcore fanatics...ideal audience for expensive 3D TVs

If they fuck that,3D will be proclaimed as meh the game is shit,who cares about 3D.

[TripleA]

Yeah, it looks great. You know what looks better though? Uncharted 2.

I disagree.

Uncharted 2 wins in the texture, color saturation, and shadows department. Everything else goes to Killzone 2.

[OptimoPeach]

You know, I'm up for an awesome Killzone game and I'm willing to give the third one a shot. There are a couple of problems though:

- First game was complete and utter shit
- Second game had horrible controls and felt very slow

Yeah, not really hyped for this one but Naughty Dog involvement gives me hope. Those guys know how to make a fun game with solid controls.

I think graphically Killzone 2 was and still is an amazing game. I thought as an actual game though it wasn't quite so amazing. Good but not great.

Especially the controls and the input lag.

Bububu it simulates realism

[Smooth Groove]

You know, I'm up for an awesome Killzone game and I'm willing to give the third one a shot. There are a couple of problems though:

- First game was complete and utter shit
- Second game had horrible controls and felt very slow

Yeah, not really hyped for this one but Naughty Dog involvement gives me hope. Those guys know how to make a fun game with solid controls.

I think graphically Killzone 2 was and still is an amazing game. I thought as an actual game though it wasn't quite so amazing. Good but not great.

Especially the controls and the input lag.

Yeah, reviewers really dropped the ball on this one.  It's like they all believed that Killzone 2 was AAA after the devs fed them a bunch of bs about how technologically impressive it was.

That pretty much explains why Sony is coming out with another sequel for such a middling franchise.  People are just fucking stupid in general; if you tell them something long and hard enough, they will believe it.  

It worked for Iron Man so why not expect that it'll work for Killzone?

[WrikaWrek]

Add to that better lod systems that doesn't make characters textures distort in some whacky way when they die. And let's give a nod to the level of geometry, physics, animation, character models, effects like snow .

All Killzone 2 has going for it is over use of motion blur and a lightning system that is pretty good. Everything else wasn't anything special for the time, the characters, the particle effects (explosions look like utter shit) etc.

All Killzone 2 has on Uncharted 2 is a midget with a severe case of head trauma that makes everything go blur when he moves.

And speaking of the game itself, good god mate. I read about these amazing setpieces that happen like the train...what the fuck, i played that shit, there was nothing amazing about it. The game is boring, sluggish, doesn't have anything to say and has really bad characters.

Why is it even getting hyped when the sequel did about as well as Resistance 2 (not a compliment) is just funny.

[Stoney Mason]

You know, I'm up for an awesome Killzone game and I'm willing to give the third one a shot. There are a couple of problems though:

- First game was complete and utter shit
- Second game had horrible controls and felt very slow

Yeah, not really hyped for this one but Naughty Dog involvement gives me hope. Those guys know how to make a fun game with solid controls.

I think graphically Killzone 2 was and still is an amazing game. I thought as an actual game though it wasn't quite so amazing. Good but not great.

Especially the controls and the input lag.

Yeah, reviewers really dropped the ball on this one.  It's like they all believed that Killzone 2 was AAA after the devs fed them a bunch of bs about how technologically impressive it was.

That pretty much explains why Sony is coming out with another sequel for such a middling franchise.  People are just fucking stupid in general; if you tell them something long and hard enough, they will believe it.  

It worked for Iron Man so why not expect that it'll work for Killzone?

I've always thought the bias most hardcore gamers and reviewers have is that they think automatically great graphics equal great gameplay. So suddenly in praising the great graphics they often let that slip over into the gameplay. When honestly they are two separate things almost completely.

[WrikaWrek]

I love how much hype Killzone 2 received before the game launched when Guerilla Game's game portfolio at the time consisted of mostly shitty games and completely shitty games when they were known as Lost Boys. I guess Liberation was pretty decent but that was neither a FPS or on a console.

Because Sony bought them, and pumped a lot of money into tech. That's it.

[Smooth Groove]

It's crazy how much hype (insert Sony title) got... 10,000 post threads at GAF with sfags circle-jerking each other off 24/7 for months on end.  I'm shocked to find out the game turned out to be nothing more than an average (insert type of game), stunned!  Disgusting sfags..

This template pretty much works for any Sony exclusive.  I just ripped it off K-bear. 

[Shurs]

I enjoyed Killzone 2. I felt a bit lost with the multiplayer, which I liked more in theory than in execution. I always felt like the matches took too long and felt like there weren't enough options in match types. Also, I felt like the GAF clan was kind of an insular group, and not very welcoming.

I'd like to see more info on Killzone 3, though the idea of the game being in 3d and using the Move does nothing for me, as I'm not going to be purchasing a 3D TV for years and I couldn't care less about waggle. I actually liked Killzone 2's controls, especially the way they felt during the beta.

[brawndolicious]

yeah I really hate 3D in a game with a fixed camera.

It just looks wrong.

[Smooth Groove]

At the least, it'll be interesting to see how 3D is implemented in Killzone 3.  Killzone 2 barely ran at 30fps and it's well known that true 3D has a huge impact on performance.  

[brawndolicious]

They're actually going to do it the Nvidea way?  Maybe that's why it looks so similar to the last game.

[TripleA]

Yeah, it looks great. You know what looks better though? Uncharted 2.

I disagree.

Uncharted 2 wins in the texture, color saturation, and shadows department. Everything else goes to Killzone 2.

The effects in Killzone 2 are top notch (even if they use sub HD buffer resolutions) but I prefer the superior art direction, texturing, shadows, lighting, and environment design in Uncharted 2. Plus the overused motion blur reduces the visual fidelity IMO.

Lighting goes to Killzone 2. You're crazy if you think Uncharted 2 had more impressive lighting.

Also, the art direction in KZ2 was phenomenal; they really nailed the atmosphere in that game.

[TripleA]

(explosions look like utter shit)

You're cute when you're bullshitting.

[brawndolicious]

By lighting, do you mean lens-flare and effects like that?

Uncharted had much more a much more vibrant and colorful style.  Hell there's no way KZ2 had any HDR.

[TripleA]

By lighting, do you mean lens-flare and effects like that?

Uncharted had much more a much more vibrant and colorful style.  Hell there's no way KZ2 had any HDR.

I'm talking about everything to do with lighting. Uncharted 2 definitely had more color, I believe I mentioned this a few posts up.

The only game in recent memory that had very impressive lighting was BF:BC2 on PC. And that's a directx 11 game.

[brawndolicious]

What was so good about BC2's lighting?

I'm not sure what specifically you're talking about with regards to KZ2's lighting.

[TripleA]

What was so good about BC2's lighting?

Have you heard of HBAO?

I'm not sure what specifically you're talking about with regards to KZ2's lighting.

There is nothing specifically, it's everything. From the lens-flare to the way the light bounces off a Helghans mask onto his clothes (diffusion), the lighting in KZ2 is unreal.

[TripleA]

He doesn't know because he's talking out of his ass.

Oh really.

[TripleA]

Lighting goes to Killzone 2. You're crazy if you think Uncharted 2 had more impressive lighting.

I think Naughty Dog had a more impressive lighting engine with their pre-pass system. They used deferred rendering in addition to forward rendering which is a step above what Killzone 2 was capable of.

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:2ZmcjgPWtSsJ:www.guerrilla-games.com/publications/dr_kz2_rsx_dev07.pdf+killzone+2+forward+rendering&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us

"Forward & Deferred Rendering Overview".

[TripleA]

Of course Lens-flares are post process effects, that is common knowledge.

Here's your post: They used deferred rendering in addition to forward rendering which is a step above what Killzone 2 was capable of.

Now here's my post: http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:2ZmcjgPWtSsJ:www.guerrilla-games.com/publications/dr_kz2_rsx_dev07.pdf+killzone+2+forward+rendering&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us

"Forward & Deferred Rendering Overview".

Your post now makes no sense.

@Amnintenho, here's a 720p screenshot of BF:BC2 running with HBAO turned on.

[TripleA]

GUESS WHAT, a lot of games have those systems in place!

Ah, so I was correct.

It looks like you were wrong in stating Uncharted 2 using deferred and forward rendering was a step above what KZ2 was capable of.

[TripleA]

Naughty Dog produced a very elegant lighting system that I believe is a step beyond Killzone 2's simple and post processor reliant system.

But this isn't the same as "They used deferred rendering in addition to forward rendering which is a step above what Killzone 2 was capable of."

It's interesting how you claim I don't know what I'm talking about, yet it is you who was just proven wrong 

[maxy]

What an epic fight!

Somebody copy-paste it on gaf.


 

[demi]

[TripleA]

To be frank, all it means is some guy named Slime had to throw in his beliefs and opinions after his facts didn't check out.

There's a name for people like that, what was it again...

[TripleA]

TripleA talks like the Beyond3D distinguished mentally-challenged fellows.

I applaud your contribution.

[TripleA]

Borys is right, he is a Beyond 3D distinguished mentally-challenged fellow.

Thank you for the kind words.

[TripleA]

Yes yes of course, it was I who was taking this seriously 

Now, back to KZ3.

[maxy]

TripleA talks like the Beyond3D distinguished mentally-challenged fellows.

Console section has been overrunned by TripleA posters so developers stopped posting there and those who post are either mods or they post like once in a year.  :'(

Now it looks like gaf with smarter mods :'(

[WrikaWrek]

(explosions look like utter shit)

You're cute when you're bullshitting.

Dude get some glasses or whatever. I don't give a shit about what you think anyway.

[TripleA]

TripleA talks like the Beyond3D distinguished mentally-challenged fellows.

Console section has been overrunned by TripleA posters

Sounds like good news.

[TripleA]

(explosions look like utter shit)

You're cute when you're bullshitting.

Dude get some glasses or whatever. I don't give a shit about what you think anyway.

I already have a pair of glasses, they're the reason why I could see your bullshit.

[WrikaWrek]

What bullshit?

You blind as hell mang. Prolly don't even know that the deferred lightning in KZ2 is pre baked.  And lol at picking BC2 lightning of all games.

If your Ps3 can handle it, try Metro 2033. It does that KZ2 thing you love, in real time.

[Smooth Groove]

If your Ps3 can handle it, try Metro 2033.

Nobody's PS3 can handle Metro 2033. 

RSX would probably blow up trying to render that quality of graphics. 


Seriously though, worst posters ITT. 

[TripleA]

What bullshit?

You blind as hell mang. Prolly don't even know that the deferred lightning in KZ2 is pre baked.  And lol at picking BC2 lightning of all games.

If your Ps3 can handle it, try Metro 2033. It does that KZ2 thing you love, in real time.

BF:BC2 has very impressive lighting.

I've played Metro 2033 on PC. But thanks for the suggestion, mang.

[WrikaWrek]

If your Ps3 can handle it, try Metro 2033.

Nobody's PS3 can handle Metro 2033. 

I know 

[MyNameIsMethodis]

PS3 hating on Evilbore, who wouldve thunk it 

[WrikaWrek]

Most annoying aspect of sony fegs.

For them, it's impossible to separate the game and the machine. It's this fanatical reasoning that carries them to see Killzone and Playstation as one and the same that really makes them the greatest console warriors that have ever lived.

[TripleA]

U mad?

[Purple Filth]

article link for reading.

http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=pt-PT&ie=UTF-8&sl=pt&tl=en&u=http://www.allgamesbeta.info/2010/05/killzone-3_22.html&rurl=translate.google.pt

[AdmiralViscen]

Triple A sucks

[TripleA]

♫ i sound like a broken record, record, record
a broken record, record, record
all the times i said i was gonna change
im'a sound like a broken record
a broken record, record, record
every time i lie, your ears bleed with pain
form the sounds of a broken record ♫

[AdmiralViscen]

Sounds about right

[TripleA]

♫ i didn't know what i had till you left
since you've been gone my life's been a mess
i'm sorry, sorry, sorry i'm too blame
the times you took me back, it got worse
wish i could take back all the hurt
i'm sorry, sorry, so sorry, i'm ashamed. ♫

[originalz]

wtf?  It'll be like Inglorious Basterds?  Did they even see the movie?  I know that the advertisements gave that impression, but anyone who's actually watched it and still considers it a fast-paced action movie is a bloody idiot.

[naff]

I thought Killzone 2 was alright, I only rented it for a few days but the battles were fun and the AI was smart. Graphics seemed great but I'm no graphix haxxor, it just looked good to me. I liked how the gun swayed as well, fitted the sloppy analogue sticks of the PS3.

[Shurs]

So wait, you need a 3D tv for the 3D shit right?

If so, lol at Sony.

3D is an added feature for people who have 3D televisions (coming soon from Sony!), not the only way to play the game. Even without 3D this is a sequel to one of the best looking games on consoles, arguably better than anything on 360, a game that has a Metacritic score is in the 90's and was GAF's FPS of the year in 2009.

[Purple Filth]

So wait, you need a 3D tv for the 3D shit right?

If so, lol at Sony.

Wasn't this already known that this 3d shit is gonna require new (and currently expensive) equipment .  

[OptimoPeach]

I hope those 3D TV's cause retinal cancer

[TripleA]

So wait, you need a 3D tv for the 3D shit right?

If so, lol at Sony.

So wait, you need a donkey to ride on a donkey?

If so, lol at God.

[TripleA]

So wait, you need a 3D tv for the 3D shit right?

If so, lol at Sony.

3D is an added feature for people who have 3D televisions (coming soon from Sony!), not the only way to play the game. Even without 3D this is a sequel to one of the best looking games on consoles, arguably better than anything on 360, a game that has a Metacritic score is in the 90's and was GAF's FPS of the year in 2009.

Welcome Shurs!

It's not arguably better: there's nothing on the Xbox that looks better than KZ2.

It was the same situation with GeOW1. There was nothing better looking on the Ps3 until Uncharted came out.

[maxy]

Why are you talking to yourself?

[TripleA]

Harharhar.

[Hitler Stole My Potato]

So wait, you need a 3D tv for the 3D shit right?

If so, lol at Sony.

3D is an added feature for people who have 3D televisions (coming soon from Sony!), not the only way to play the game. Even without 3D this is a sequel to one of the best looking games on consoles, arguably better than anything on 360, a game that has a Metacritic score is in the 90's and was GAF's FPS of the year in 2009.

We've got a hull breach

[Purple Filth]

So wait, you need a 3D tv for the 3D shit right?

If so, lol at Sony.

3D is an added feature for people who have 3D televisions (coming soon from Sony!), not the only way to play the game. Even without 3D this is a sequel to one of the best looking games on consoles, arguably better than anything on 360, a game that has a Metacritic score is in the 90's and was GAF's FPS of the year in 2009.

We've got a hull breach

 


Being fair its been a while since the site had some sony fans  (the last notable one was justinP ).