Sony E3 Conference livestream thread

[Mr. Gundam]

Sony's conference starts at 12 pm PST/3 pm EST.
http://www.youtube.com/e3

Have fun, Boritos.

[Hitler Stole My Potato]

[Third]

http://www.youtube.com/e3

Probably the best stream out there.

[cool breeze]

Sony had a hard life...

[brob]

what are we expecting them to show? I'm hoping for Vanquish.

[cool breeze]

what are we expecting them to show? I'm hoping for Vanquish.

So far the only thing we know 100% is a Dead Space 2 boss fight

[Mr. Gundam]

Amazon France put up a new PS3 game called Horizon by Quantic Dream. I wonder if that will be shown?

[fistfulofmetal]

hopefully Rock Band 3 will show up.

hopefully

[Mr. Gundam]

hopefully Rock Band 3 will show up.

hopefully

That would be nice.

[iconoclast]

All they need is Last Guardian footage and I'll be satisfied.

Ueda > *

[Tieno]

when does this shit start?

hope it'll be hipster enough

[Hitler Stole My Potato]

Maybe I'm being distinguished mentally-challenged, but I'm expecting a good show from Sony.....as long as they don't put too much focus on Move that is.  They could definitely destroy both MS and Nintendo's conferences game wise if they choose to go that direction.

[Barry Egan]

This is my most anticipated conference

[Mr. Gundam]

when does this shit start?

hope it'll be hipster enough

In about 90 minutes. 12 pm PST.

Maybe I'm being distinguished mentally-challenged, but I'm expecting a good show from Sony.....as long as they don't put too much focus on Move that is.  They could definitely destroy both MS and Nintendo's conferences game wise if they choose to go that direction.

I'm afraid there will be too much emphasis on 3D and Move.

[cool breeze]

Amazon France put up a new PS3 game called Horizon by Quantic Dream. I wonder if that will be shown?

they also showed the Team Ico collection and Uncharted 3

who knows

[Tieno]

when does this shit start?

hope it'll be hipster enough

In about 90 minutes. 12 pm PST.

Maybe I'm being distinguished mentally-challenged, but I'm expecting a good show from Sony.....as long as they don't put too much focus on Move that is.  They could definitely destroy both MS and Nintendo's conferences game wise if they choose to go that direction.

I'm afraid there will be too much emphasis on 3D and Move.

fuck that, Brazille is playing. More hipster to watch World Cup than watch a game conference speech.

[brob]

All they need is Last Guardian footage and I'll be satisfied.

Ueda > *

That would be nice. Viz is on the chat talking about a list of leaks of what's gonna be shown. Last Guardian is on it.

http://www.amazon.fr/s/qid=1276549645/ref=sr_st?__mk_fr_FR=%C5M%C5Z%D5%D1&page=1&bbn=336124011&rh=n%3A530490%2Cn%3A%21548014%2Cn%3A236758011%2Cn%3A336124011&sort=-releasedate

[Third]

MS brought us Kinetic zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
Nintendo brought us Nintendo games and dated hardware. zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

I wonder what Sony will do. I don't want them to rape the show with Move.

[Third]

All they need is Last Guardian footage and I'll be satisfied.

Ueda > *

That would be nice. Viz is on the chat talking about a list of leaks of what's gonna be shown. Last Guardian is on it.

http://www.amazon.fr/s/qid=1276549645/ref=sr_st?__mk_fr_FR=%C5M%C5Z%D5%D1&page=1&bbn=336124011&rh=n%3A530490%2Cn%3A%21548014%2Cn%3A236758011%2Cn%3A336124011&sort=-releasedate

The Last Guardian?

The Team ICO collection?

FF Versus XIII?

Uncharted 3?

Sony has won already.

[Stoney Mason]

Thought the Nintendo and MS conferences were equally boring. We'll see if Sony can deliver anything that surprises and interests me.

And interesting certainly doesn't mean re-bundling old PS 2 games to me.

[TripleA]

It won't take much for Sony to 1up Microsoft's conference: pretty good year for Ps3, good upcoming games, and it indeed looks like the Ps3 will overtake the 360 by years end.

As for beating Nintendo, a simple smiley will suffice: 

[Eel O'Brian]

this goes against everything i will post this afternoon, but i am sort of looking forward to seeing what's up with the move and how it handles stuff like socom

[Hitler Stole My Potato]

All they'd have to do is roll out a new Last Guardian trailer and it'd steamroll both MS and Nintendo.

[Eel O'Brian]

i wonder if jack tretton will scream and get sucked into the PSEye

[Eel O'Brian]

SONY = (Image removed from quote.)

someone needs to have their ass kicked for letting that dog get so fat

[Hitler Stole My Potato]

Instead of Jack Tretton, it'd be awesome if they had that guy from the commercials MC the entire show.  I know it ain't going to happen but it'd be entertaining at least.

[Purple Filth]

Beating MS is possible but for Nintendo not so much.


Should be interesting.

[Tieno]

what did nintendo do? i didn't watch the conference

[Stoney Mason]

what did nintendo do? i didn't watch the conference

3DS which was cool. Nothing else honestly.

[Mr. Gundam]

Instead of Jack Tretton, it'd be awesome if they had that guy from the commercials MC the entire show.  I know it ain't going to happen but it'd be entertaining at least.

Having "Kevin Butler" be the host would be awesome.

[TripleA]

Thought the Nintendo and MS conferences were equally boring. We'll see if Sony can deliver anything that surprises and interests me.

And interesting certainly does mean re-bundling old PS 2 games to me.

I'm sorry, but you're out of your mind if you think Nintendo's conference was on the same level of fail as Microsoft's.

Natal had soo much potential, and man, Microsoft dropped the ball hard.

Where was Milo? Why didn't they show Fable 3 using Kinect? What happened to the ability to scan objects and use them in games? Where were the hardcore games for Natal? Why does every launch game look like a bad 3rd party Wii game?

The Xbox brand is synonymous with the term "hardcore gaming", and Microsoft's attempt to shave that off with Kinect will lead to 2 significant things happening:

1- They're going to lose the hardcore market to Ps3.

2- They're going to lose whatever remaining percent of casual gamers to Wii.

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IF (and that's a big IF) Sony can show Move working well with hardcore games, Microsoft are fucked.

[Brehvolution]

Now for the REAL games.

[Third]

what did nintendo do? i didn't watch the conference

They showed the 3DS and it has some great support.

The Wii was underhwelming. New Zelda looked boring. Epic Fail Mickey looked like shit and Kirby Wii looked like a low budget flash game. The new Donkey Kong Game looked great, though.

[Stoney Mason]

bunch of dumb fanboy shit that I honestly didn't read.

Whatever dude.

[duckman2000]

I want to see Infamous 2. Some straight up blizzard and stormy seas KZ3 would be neat too, it's been a good day for shooters so that would seal it up nicely. But I'm sure it will be mostly Move stuff.

[Stoney Mason]

Where's Methodis?

http://www.evilbore.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=1845

[Brehvolution]

Time for the REAL game company to show the rookies how it's done.

[Smooth Groove]

Sony announcing its departure from portable gaming. 

[Brehvolution]

PSP3D with holograms and shit.

[Third]

Sony announcing its departure from portable gaming. 

I hope not. I want a handheld that's using current technology. Sony is the only who can do that.

I was kinda hoping that the 3DS was a technical powerhouse. But Nintendo did it again.

[Hitler Stole My Potato]

IF (and that's a big IF) Sony can show Move working well with hardcore games, Microsoft are fucked.

Move is headed right where Kinect is going - right into the fucking toilet.  Neither of these things are going to take off.

[Eel O'Brian]

I really enjoyed Uncharted 2, I'd like to see another this holiday (although it ain't gonna happen).

[Hitler Stole My Potato]

Had Kinect been 79.99, they could have marketed it well and it could have been kind of successful. That won't happen.

Move is just fucking stupid and is working with an install base who doesn't give a shit anyways.

Agreed.

[TripleA]

bunch of dumb fanboy shit that I honestly didn't read.

Whatever dude.

That's just like __________ .

[Third]

Kinect is only taking distinguished mentally-challenged a step further. Nothing else.

[Purple Filth]

Where's Methodis?

Sacrificing stuff so Sony can win?

[TripleA]

IF (and that's a big IF) Sony can show Move working well with hardcore games, Microsoft are fucked.

Move is headed right where Kinect is going - right into the fucking toilet.  Neither of these things are going to take off.

Like I said: IF it works well with hardcore games, then Microsoft can kiss that market goodbye.

Kinect is the only one out of the 3 that seems absolutely destined for failure. It's not just the fact that the tech is much less impressive than initially thought, but the pricing strategy, the marketing strategy, all this shit seems like it's headed down the wrong hole.

I hope I'm proven wrong, because if Kinect fails, hooboy.

[fistfulofmetal]

Live demo of Infamous 2
Live demo of Killzone 3
Buncha Move bullshit hosted by Kevin Butler
Some The Last Guardian

fin

[Hitler Stole My Potato]

The problem with both of them is that I just don't think the general population will ever perceive there to be much difference between either device and the Wii.  It's especially true for Move but also for Kinect as well.  It doesn't fucking matter that there's no controller.  Grandma is still doing the same distinguished mentally-challenged motions she's doing on her Wii as she'd be doing on Move or Kinect.  There's no reason for these people to adopt these things.

[duckman2000]

While Kinect kind of took the Wii tech a step further, I get the feeling like Move is perceived as.

More like Eyetoy a step further. Maybe people will care about this third attempt, lulz.

[duckman2000]

Infamous 2

 

Also,

Shooters

[TripleA]

While Kinect kind of took the Wii tech a step further, I get the feeling like Move is perceived as.

WII X-TREME!!!! NOT YOUR MOM'S WAGGLE, MOTHERFUCKER!

Its like trying to get grown men to play with Tonka trucks again.

And that is exactly why Sony has the potential to get hardcore gamers on board.

Move was devised to counter the inevitable Wii HD. What Sony may very well end up doing -and again, this is IF they successfully show Move working well with hardcore games- is snatching up all the Ps3 and 360 gamers who don't give a rats ass about Kinect but WANT motion gaming.

Motion gaming in HD will be established on PlayStation. And THAT is a threat to Nintendo's next console.

[Hitler Stole My Potato]

IF (and that's a big IF) Sony can show Move working well with hardcore games, Microsoft are fucked.

Move is headed right where Kinect is going - right into the fucking toilet.  Neither of these things are going to take off.

Like I said: IF it works well with hardcore games, then Microsoft can kiss that market goodbye.

Kinect is the only one out of the 3 that seems absolutely destined for failure. It's not just the fact that the tech is much less impressive than initially thought, but the pricing strategy, the marketing strategy, all this shit seems like it's headed down the wrong hole.

I hope I'm proven wrong, because if Kinect fails, hooboy.

Kinect WILL fail but I think MS will be fine in part to the system redesign and the fact that it's still selling pretty damn well.  Kinect and Move will both be colossal blunders.

[Hitler Stole My Potato]

Yeah, unless it's on Wii no one else will give a good god damn about motion controllers.  That's the Wii market and neither Sony or MS are offering anything different enough or cheap enough as a viable alternative.  This is a losing battle for both companies.

It's amazing that people can't seem to figure this out.

[Third]

Yeah, that's being desperate.

[Brehvolution]

I'll probably get Move before Kinect if priced right.

[Stoney Mason]

And that's why Kinect and Move are mysteries to me.

I understand WHY they want to penetrate that market, but they can't!

They established themselves are hardcore machines. How do you expect to show Call of Duty and Gears of War in the same conference as Kinect and expect people to buy in to it?

They don't look at it that way. All they see is the money that Nintendo is making and they want in on it. But neither understand the market. Nor have they cultivated it, which is why neither will be able to take any marketshare from Nintendo. Both items will sell to a niche group. While Nintendo keeps killing with the Wii. Because that is Nintendo's natural audience anyway.

[duckman2000]

I still maintain that if Sony get this right, they could offer a very appealing alternative to the Wii not primarly among soccer moms, but their husbands. I know of a few dudes who are seriously miffed by the Wii, since it's popular with their wives and friends, and said wives don't think there is a need for two video game systems. Ideally for Sony, Move+PS3 will become the alternative, giving the wives their "karaoke" machine with fun games for the whole family, and the husbands their HD "hardcore" gaming machine+HD movie player.

Of course, getting that right is a tall order for a company that has spent most of the generation performing tactical blunders. It's only since the Slim and the rebranding that things have turned for the better, and I doubt they are going for a flawless streak here.

[Eel O'Brian]

Yeah, unless it's on Wii no one else will give a good god damn about motion controllers.  That's the Wii market and neither Sony or MS are offering anything different enough or cheap enough as a viable alternative.  This is a losing battle for both companies.

It's amazing that people can't seem to figure this out.

well, anecdotal here, but a friend who already owns a PS3 and has a little girl is planning on getting one for the family for Christmas

i do think there's a small existing market for it, and it is a safe decision as far as motion bullshit goes - uprezzed wii ports will likely cost companies little, so there'll probably be dozens of those, and they're at least going to make a halfassed attempt to put the functionality into normal games like socom

companies have to make kinect games from the ground up

[TripleA]

IF (and that's a big IF) Sony can show Move working well with hardcore games, Microsoft are fucked.

Move is headed right where Kinect is going - right into the fucking toilet.  Neither of these things are going to take off.

Like I said: IF it works well with hardcore games, then Microsoft can kiss that market goodbye.

Kinect is the only one out of the 3 that seems absolutely destined for failure. It's not just the fact that the tech is much less impressive than initially thought, but the pricing strategy, the marketing strategy, all this shit seems like it's headed down the wrong hole.

I hope I'm proven wrong, because if Kinect fails, hooboy.

Kinect WILL fail but I think MS will be fine in part to the system redesign and the fact that it's still selling pretty damn well.  Kinect and Move will both be colossal blunders.

But how far can a system redesign take them?

It takes a lot more than just redesigning your product to make it a long-term success. If the same creepy Baby ads were still airing, and if the Ps3 was still out of the price range of the average gamer, would the Ps3 Slim be relevant?