Author Topic: The NBA thread (Read 1672253 times)

pilonv1 · « **Reply #3900 on:** February 17, 2012, 04:47:17 AM »

NHL does a draft for their all star game, with each team getting a captain who picks.

Norris Cole making it over Klay Thompson is stupid.

Beezy · « **Reply #3901 on:** February 17, 2012, 10:34:46 AM »

JR Smith to the Knicks

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #3902 on:** February 17, 2012, 11:32:37 AM »

Flannel Boy · « **Reply #3903 on:** February 17, 2012, 11:42:29 AM »

Quote from: pilonv1 on February 17, 2012, 04:47:17 AM

NHL does a draft for their all star game, with each team getting a captain who picks.

Only good part of the draft:

Cormacaroni · « **Reply #3904 on:** February 17, 2012, 12:08:16 PM »

I went back and watched the first Linsanity Game on LP tonight for kicks. Really kind of crazy in hindsight. It really did blindside everyone. He didn't really dominate until the 4th but his impact was immediate and broad. The first time Deron Williams isolated against Lin, the announcer started to say 'Jeremy Lin doesn't stand a chance against Williams here...' before Lin cut off D-Will's drive totally and forced him into a jumper with a hand in his face

The announcer took it straight back. By the 4th, the 'Jeremy' chants had started and he basically owned MSG like I haven't seen from a Knick since...Spreewell?

Also, I was kinda surprised that Melo was playing (although he sucked). All this talk of oh noes how will this great passing PG manage to co-exist with this great multidimensional scorer seemed founded on the fact that they had never played together...maybe everyone just forgot.

Also, Tyson Chandler. Still awesome. The more the Knicks fast-break, the more effective he will be too.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #3905 on:** February 17, 2012, 06:25:40 PM »

Jesus wins again!

Cormacaroni · « **Reply #3906 on:** February 17, 2012, 06:55:13 PM »

The Knicks sked is going to get a lot tougher - be prepared for a wicked Melo backlash when they start losing games again. Hollinger points out that they've been winning 'cause of improved defense, which will take a hit when Melo comes back (unless he finally starts trying, of course - there's no reason he should be that bad. But if he didn't motivated in the playoffs, he's not going to try against the Hornets in February)

Beezy · « **Reply #3907 on:** February 17, 2012, 07:12:07 PM »

If Amare coming back didn't fuck up their defense, then I doubt Melo's return will.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #3908 on:** February 17, 2012, 08:34:40 PM »

Lin 5 first quarter turnovers. He's really got to get that under control. That's simply something people like Nash and CP3 don't do. He gets out of control lots of times trying to create.

DJ_Tet · « **Reply #3909 on:** February 17, 2012, 08:42:48 PM »

Quote from: Beezy on February 17, 2012, 07:12:07 PM

If Amare coming back didn't fuck up their defense, then I doubt Melo's return will.

It's not that Melo is worse at D than Amare but that it's easier to cover for 1 or 2 defensive liabilities than it will be to cover for 3 (Lin included in that.)

Flannel Boy · « **Reply #3910 on:** February 17, 2012, 09:24:30 PM »

Nothing cures a losing streak like the Toronto Raptors.

edit:
On a related note, how has Rasual Butler had such a long career.* In his ten-year career, he hasn't had a single season in which his PER was at 15 (league average) or above. It's 10.4 overall and around 5 for this season.

*In before defense and three-point shooting.

Joe Molotov · « **Reply #3911 on:** February 17, 2012, 09:35:23 PM »

Toronto has a basketball team now? Well good for them!

Flannel Boy · « **Reply #3912 on:** February 17, 2012, 09:36:09 PM »

Not a professional team. But they have a team.

Flannel Boy · « **Reply #3913 on:** February 17, 2012, 09:39:05 PM »

Lin has nine turnovers? We've found a weakness* in his armor.

*racists.

BlueTsunami · « **Reply #3914 on:** February 17, 2012, 10:43:31 PM »

Reminded of the Eastbound and Down speech

"I was your savior. I was your knight in shining armour. In each of you, were the chinks upon my armour. Each of you were the chinks. You all were the chinks! Remember me, my chinks..."

DJ_Tet · « **Reply #3915 on:** February 17, 2012, 10:49:16 PM »

Toronto

People who think the Bobcats are the worst team to ever exist in the NBA

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #3916 on:** February 17, 2012, 11:19:24 PM »

The cream is starting to rise to the top.

Miami is looking scary good at the moment. Lebron is having another crazy MVP season. Shooting 54%.

And if we cut off the first 5 games of the season Dallas is a fairly solid 19-7.

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #3917 on:** February 17, 2012, 11:46:52 PM »

Quote from: Stoney Mason on February 17, 2012, 11:19:24 PM

And if we cut off the first 5 games of the season Dallas is a fairly solid 19-7.

Dallas has looked pretty good recently, especially with a revolving door of injured players. One of the strongest defenses in the West, too.

Cormacaroni · « **Reply #3918 on:** February 18, 2012, 04:35:05 AM »

Spurs are better too, not that anyone cares or notices.

I assume Dallas will be very tough by playoff time. Dirk is improving but man, that 5-6 month long party clearly took a lot out of him

BlueTsunami · « **Reply #3919 on:** February 18, 2012, 09:53:20 AM »

Oh my God....

Flannel Boy · « **Reply #3920 on:** February 18, 2012, 09:57:13 AM »

Quote from: Stoney Mason on February 17, 2012, 11:19:24 PM

And if we cut off the first 5 games of the season Dallas is a fairly solid 19-7.

I believed all along.

Quote from: Cormacaroni on February 18, 2012, 04:35:05 AM

Dirk is improving but man, that 5-6 month long party clearly took a lot out of him

He did play in the Euros* on a team with Chris Kaman and a bunch of other Germans too tall to play soccer. That should turn someone off basketball more than playing with Josh Howard.

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*I thought he didn't play well, but I guess it's all relative: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dirk_Nowitzki#International_career His performance from the 2001 Euros to the 2008 Olympic qualifiers was pretty sick (note: 40-minute games). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dirk_Nowitzki#International_statistics

Not as sick as his career playoff numbers though: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dirk_Nowitzki#Playoffs

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #3921 on:** February 18, 2012, 11:22:26 PM »

etiolate · « **Reply #3922 on:** February 19, 2012, 12:42:22 AM »

Isn't that more the inbounders fault for not waiting for Paul to be in the backcourt before making the pass?

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #3923 on:** February 19, 2012, 01:21:50 PM »

Quote from: etiolate on February 19, 2012, 12:42:22 AM

Isn't that more the inbounders fault for not waiting for Paul to be in the backcourt before making the pass?

It kinda was.

That was a good game last night.

Also JR smith is playing for the knicks today.

Flannel Boy · « **Reply #3924 on:** February 19, 2012, 01:22:32 PM »

Send Smith's ass back to China.

Flannel Boy · « **Reply #3925 on:** February 19, 2012, 01:34:03 PM »

Do they even call travels anymore.

Flannel Boy · « **Reply #3926 on:** February 19, 2012, 02:31:51 PM »

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #3927 on:** February 19, 2012, 02:39:06 PM »

Each games that goes on they are starting to figure out Lin more and more. Defense I mean. Especially on how he penetrates.

edit: Then he makes two great drives. lol.

Flannel Boy · « **Reply #3928 on:** February 19, 2012, 02:52:08 PM »

Linsanity is back

Nowitzki: +22
Lamar Odom: -11

In fairness, that was a great pass by Odom to end the quarter.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #3929 on:** February 19, 2012, 02:52:24 PM »

Good game. Close going into the 4th.

Lin
22 points (FG 9-17)
8 assists
3 steals
4 turnovers.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #3930 on:** February 19, 2012, 02:53:36 PM »

Quote from: Flannel Boy on February 19, 2012, 02:52:08 PM

Linsanity is back

Nowitzki: +22
Lamar Odom: -11

In fairness, that was a great pass by Odom to end the quarter.

Odom is a lost cause this season. Better to just look towards next year.

T-Short · « **Reply #3931 on:** February 19, 2012, 02:56:00 PM »

Tied! ahuahuahua Odom with the airball

Joe Molotov · « **Reply #3932 on:** February 19, 2012, 03:00:12 PM »

Can Odom suck any harder? Let's find out!

Edit: yep, he can

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #3933 on:** February 19, 2012, 03:06:11 PM »

Holy Shit Novak.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #3934 on:** February 19, 2012, 03:08:00 PM »

Whatever bad you can say about the knicks (and there is a lot to say on defense) they are now fun to watch. When Anthony comes back they should be a beast on offense.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #3935 on:** February 19, 2012, 03:23:46 PM »

http://www.hulu.com/watch/331272/saturday-night-live-cold-opening-linsanity-postgame

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #3936 on:** February 19, 2012, 03:31:30 PM »

Lin

28 points
14 assists
5 steals

And I'm going to shut up about the turnovers. I mean yeah its a problem and he needs to work on it in the offseason with some of his decision making but being brand new. Playing the large number of minutes he does. And the pressure he creates. He brings far more to the table than he takes away with it on the turnovers.

T-Short · « **Reply #3937 on:** February 19, 2012, 03:32:12 PM »

Flannel Boy · « **Reply #3938 on:** February 19, 2012, 03:33:01 PM »

Linning > Tebowing. $:-\$

Mandark · « **Reply #3939 on:** February 19, 2012, 03:37:52 PM »

What a rough time you have rooting for the defending champions, Malek. I feel your pain.

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Flannel Boy · « **Reply #3940 on:** February 19, 2012, 03:48:40 PM »

The positive thing about being a Wizards fan is that your team can't really disappoint you.

T-Short · « **Reply #3941 on:** February 19, 2012, 03:50:16 PM »

Flannel Boy · « **Reply #3942 on:** February 19, 2012, 03:55:10 PM »

She's being a bit optimistic if she thinks he can break all Asian stereotypes.

Smooth Groove · « **Reply #3943 on:** February 19, 2012, 04:03:16 PM »

Quote from: Flannel Boy on February 19, 2012, 03:55:10 PM

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She's being a bit optimistic if she thinks he can break all Asian stereotypes.

I'm on the bandwagon but I ain't watching that pixel censored crap.

Smooth Groove · « **Reply #3944 on:** February 19, 2012, 05:52:19 PM »

Lebron putting on another monster performance. He's determined to get everyone to STFU. I hope it continues.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #3945 on:** February 19, 2012, 06:04:33 PM »

I try to catch a least a piece of nearly all Miami games and this is the best they've played over a stretch recently to me since the big three came there. I just hope they aren't peaking too early.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #3946 on:** February 19, 2012, 09:27:06 PM »

I watched the Miami game, first game I've watched in some time. Jesus christ is JVG always that much of a douche? I remember liking his commentary in the past but his rants were unbearable. I get that he's an oldschool fundamentals guy, but come on. First he complained about people not playing due to minor injuries, allegedly not taking seasons seriously. Then he jumped on the idiotic LeBron/Cavs comments media bs train. jesus

also fuuuck, so many political ads

Beezy · « **Reply #3947 on:** February 19, 2012, 10:47:02 PM »

Yeah, he can be like that. I love him when he's joking on someone. The serious business though, I'd rather not hear it during a game.

Oh yeah, I almost forgot:

KNICKS

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #3948 on:** February 19, 2012, 11:18:20 PM »

Quote from: AWESOM-O on February 19, 2012, 10:48:31 PM

It would be a crime if Durant didn't win the MVP this year.

Amazingly he may not win it with the year Lebron is having although Durant is having a monster season himself. He's shooting 50%. Easily his career high and pretty great for a guy who takes as many outside shots as he does. Also career high in rebounds and assists for him.

Tony Parker is quietly having a great season too. 19 points a game. Career high in assists. FG% is a little down for him but heck he's a 6'2" point guard and he's had to carry the load as Ginobili has missed most of the season and the spurs still have a great record.

Cormacaroni · « **Reply #3949 on:** February 19, 2012, 11:25:22 PM »

Quote from: Stoney Mason on February 19, 2012, 03:31:30 PM

Lin

28 points
14 assists
5 steals

And I'm going to shut up about the turnovers. I mean yeah its a problem and he needs to work on it in the offseason with some of his decision making but being brand new. Playing the large number of minutes he does. And the pressure he creates. He brings far more to the table than he takes away with it on the turnovers.

Totally agree. His usage rate is over EIGHTY PERCENT and he's on his 8th start. Yeah, there are going to be turnovers galore. If it was Tyson Chandler turning it over 7 times, it would be cause for complaint.

LeBron is better than Durant this year, no question. Durant's all-around game is amazing though.

Flannel Boy · « **Reply #3950 on:** February 19, 2012, 11:27:27 PM »

The MVP should be Lin because he's twice as good as Nash ever was.

The boring answer is that it should be James.

Cormacaroni · « **Reply #3951 on:** February 19, 2012, 11:28:11 PM »

Quote from: Beezy on February 19, 2012, 10:47:02 PM

Yeah, he can be like that. I love him when he's joking on someone. The serious business though, I'd rather not hear it during a game.

Oh yeah, I almost forgot:

KNICKS

I think he misses Mark Jackson goofing on him. 3 man teams should be the norm.

Speaking of announcing teams, it was great to hear Hubie call the Knicks-Dallas game. He was cackling like a maniac when Lin made that last-second 3 after being trapped hard by Marion and Dirk. Hubie is very high on my 'would go for a beer' list

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #3952 on:** February 19, 2012, 11:29:15 PM »

Hubie Brown on color and Marv Albert on pbp would give me boners. No lie.

Cormacaroni · « **Reply #3953 on:** February 19, 2012, 11:31:43 PM »

Quote from: Smooth Groove on February 19, 2012, 05:52:19 PM

Lebron putting on another monster performance. He's determined to get everyone to STFU. I hope it continues.

minor clarification: He's trying to get everyone talking about HIM. The sheer egotism of his Cleveland comments were just unreal. He must be insufferable to deal with off court.

Cormacaroni · « **Reply #3954 on:** February 19, 2012, 11:33:24 PM »

Quote from: Stoney Mason on February 19, 2012, 11:29:15 PM

Hubie Brown on color and Marv Albert on pbp would give me boners. No lie.

Yeah, no kidding. I just love how engaged with the game Hubie still is, unlike so many of these guys who are just doing it because they can't do anything else after retiring.

Cormacaroni · « **Reply #3955 on:** February 19, 2012, 11:34:46 PM »

Does anyone else finally feel like the season is ON? Overall, the quality of play has come back up to what I was seeing last year, it feels like. My interest is rising generally, even apart from Linsanity...

Cormacaroni · « **Reply #3956 on:** February 19, 2012, 11:36:35 PM »

Moving on to the Miami game - god, Miami fans suck compared to the way MSG has been rockin'. 4 All Stars on the court and you could hear a pin drop in the 1st quarter

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #3957 on:** February 19, 2012, 11:38:02 PM »

Quote from: Cormacaroni on February 19, 2012, 11:34:46 PM

Does anyone else finally feel like the season is ON? Overall, the quality of play has come back up to what I was seeing last year, it feels like. My interest is rising generally, even apart from Linsanity...

Its gotten better as the season has gone on. It started really sloppy. I mean look at the mavs and certain other teams that you knew should be playoff teams but got off to really shitty starts. I think teams are also being smart. Like how Miami rested Wade. The Mavs rested Dirk. There is going to be more of that in the second half. Plus I think you just have some individual players having monster seasons.

http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/hollinger/statistics?&action=login&appRedirect=http%3a%2f%2finsider.espn.go.com%2fnba%2fhollinger%2fstatistics

Hell Lin is the 12th best player using PER and that's with some games mixed in where he wasn't a starter.

DJ_Tet · « **Reply #3958 on:** February 19, 2012, 11:38:41 PM »

Miami has always had shitty fans.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #3959 on:** February 19, 2012, 11:49:08 PM »

The other thing that has happened is that the Knicks have become the Heat of last year for me at least on an interest level. A team I must watch. I barely bothered watching the knicks this year because they were fucking awful and now I can't miss a freaking game because its so exciting. Every night I'm watching them now.

Hell I can't wait for tomorrow night and Carmelo coming back. That team has JR Smith, Carmelo Anthony, and the soon to be added Baron Davis. Three of the biggest ball hogs of all time. And they are going to sometimes be on the floor all at the same time! How could you not want to watch that.

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