Author Topic: The NBA thread (Read 1860031 times)

Joe Molotov · « **Reply #21240 on:** May 06, 2019, 08:46:26 AM »

How much are the Spurs kicking themselves that they let Kawaii get away?

ToxicAdam · « **Reply #21241 on:** May 06, 2019, 10:24:46 AM »

It's not like they didn't want him or undervalued his worth. He just didn't want to stay.

Joe Molotov · « **Reply #21242 on:** May 06, 2019, 11:17:32 AM »

Quote from: ToxicAdam on May 06, 2019, 10:24:46 AM

It's not like they didn't want him or undervalued his worth. He just didn't want to stay.

I don't know exactly what happened in that last year with San Antonio, but it feels like they could have done more to try to make him happy but didn't think it was worth it.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #21243 on:** May 06, 2019, 11:40:00 PM »

Rockets and Harden killing it right now.

Don't break my heart rockets

agrajag · « **Reply #21244 on:** May 06, 2019, 11:41:40 PM »

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #21245 on:** May 07, 2019, 12:07:11 AM »

sigh. I feel like Houston was trying to throw that one away down the stretch. I wish they would drive more when the game counts.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #21246 on:** May 07, 2019, 08:55:54 AM »

I hate the Celtics fanbase so I like how upset they are over the team struggling. That includes Bill Simmons.

Joe Molotov · « **Reply #21247 on:** May 07, 2019, 10:26:08 AM »

https://twitter.com/AdamHimmelsbach/status/1125580358790066178

Kobe!

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #21248 on:** May 07, 2019, 07:22:58 PM »

benjipwns · « **Reply #21249 on:** May 08, 2019, 01:35:57 PM »

Evan Turner has twice as many turnovers (6) as made shots (3) in the playoffs.

benjipwns · « **Reply #21250 on:** May 08, 2019, 09:17:21 PM »

https://twitter.com/JohnnyNBA/status/1126272321386438656

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #21251 on:** May 08, 2019, 10:32:36 PM »

All the back-biting in Boston this off-season will be delicious.

There will be plenty of hypocrisy to go around. The Bill Simmons types and fanbase will trash kyrie now that he had a disappointing off-season. Even though last season, all I heard was how amazing Kyrie was and how brilliant he was. He was even on the simmons podcast. i guarantee that won't ever happen again.

Normally I side with the player in these situations as most of the fans (and Simmons) are jack-asses but Kyrie was pretty annoying himself on the way out of Cleveland now that he was in a "real sports city".

benjipwns · « **Reply #21252 on:** May 08, 2019, 11:18:03 PM »

I saw Barkley was saying that Kyrie should go join LeBron on the Lakers

also, the Lue talks broke down in a wonderful way:

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Negotiations between the Los Angeles Lakers and Tyronn Lue have ended without an agreement to make him the franchise's next head coach, league sources told ESPN.

Lue and his representatives turned down the Lakers' offer Tuesday, league sources said. The Lakers then on Wednesday offered Lue a deal in the range of three years and $18 million, after which Lue's side pulled out of negotiations.

According to the sources, Lue's camp was seeking a five-year deal with a salary commensurate with a championship résumé.

Beyond an inability to agree on contractual terms, the Lakers had proposed several scenarios involving their preferred candidates for assistant coaches, including Jason Kidd, sources said.

The Cavaliers are still paying Lue the $10 million or whatever was on his deal!

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #21253 on:** May 09, 2019, 12:24:43 AM »

https://twitter.com/BleacherReport/status/1126341647648735232

benjipwns · « **Reply #21254 on:** May 09, 2019, 12:34:36 AM »

"Paul Pierce sucks" is definitely a spicy NBA meme

Kara · « **Reply #21255 on:** May 09, 2019, 12:39:13 AM »

Truly an ignoble end for Paul "Vladimir Radmanovic made me an NBA Finals MVP" Pierce. :'(

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #21256 on:** May 09, 2019, 12:40:58 AM »

You hate to see an injury but Houston is set up perfectly now. They have this game. They need to close it out here in the 4th

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #21257 on:** May 09, 2019, 12:58:10 AM »

Can't believe Houston is throwing this away. Why are they playing so slow.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #21258 on:** May 09, 2019, 01:11:25 AM »

Oh rockets.

team filler · « **Reply #21259 on:** May 09, 2019, 01:16:01 AM »

nbastreams on reddit is gone :'(

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #21260 on:** May 09, 2019, 01:25:53 AM »

I don't understand why they stopped running the offense through harden. It felt like the offense ran more often through cp3 that final quarter. I don't understand playing one way all season and then in the moment it matters most, going away from it.

You knew Curry was shooting that quarter no matter what and the offense was running through him. Rockets couldn't do the same...

edit: Chris Paul is slow as shit now. He can't beat anybody off the dribble anymore. I mean I get it. I know he's older now. But it was really an eye opener this series/game for his decline from just a couple of years ago.

benjipwns · « **Reply #21261 on:** May 09, 2019, 02:37:44 AM »

wasn't that basically what they did last year too, when Ariza was taking all those threes even after it was well past the point of being on the side of the math

that was what Harden's whole game was supposed to be this year, the ugly math for when the space and pace fell apart

benjipwns · « **Reply #21262 on:** May 09, 2019, 02:41:46 AM »

lol Stoney called it, this went up at 1AM EST: http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/26702069/kyrie-irving-failed-leadership-tells-story-celtics-failed-season

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Kyrie Irving's failed leadership tells the story of the Celtics' failed season

...

"I knew going in that it was going to be super challenging, but October screamed it," the Celtics coach told ESPN recently. "I knew after the first two exhibition games, it was going to be really, really hard."

It turned out to be harder than he could have imagined. And in the end, it was too difficult to overcome, as Boston suffered a fourth consecutive loss to the Milwaukee Bucks on Wednesday to crash out of the second round of the playoffs.

This was not what was supposed to happen to a team that made the conference finals the past two years -- and then added a healthy Kyrie Irving and Gordon Hayward to the mix.

There are plenty of reasons to explain why this season was so hard, and why these Celtics were so disappointing. At the root of all of them, though, is Irving -- and, more specifically, his leadership through words and actions on and off the court.

now i think i'm getting on board with that goofy theory that they realized that Davis was going to be too much of a clusterfuck to come close on and have resigned themselves to help Kyrie go to the Knicks

bluemax · « **Reply #21263 on:** May 09, 2019, 02:44:12 AM »

Quote from: filler on May 09, 2019, 01:16:01 AM

nbastreams on reddit is gone :'(

It was there for the start of the game :/

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #21264 on:** May 09, 2019, 08:25:18 AM »

Quote from: bluemax on May 09, 2019, 02:44:12 AM

Quote from: filler on May 09, 2019, 01:16:01 AM
nbastreams on reddit is gone :'(

It was there for the start of the game :/

It's still there. Reddit was just down for a little bit last night post game.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #21265 on:** May 09, 2019, 08:45:27 AM »

Quote from: benjipwns on May 09, 2019, 02:41:46 AM

lol Stoney called it, this went up at 1AM EST: http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/26702069/kyrie-irving-failed-leadership-tells-story-celtics-failed-season

Yeah you knew these media hit pieces were coming. I don't buy it. Or at least I don't buy pinning the season on kyrie and trying to throw him under the bus for the entire season. They overachieved one season and under-achieved the next especially in a year where the East in general got better. You could easily re-title the article, the failed leadership of Brad Stevens or failed gameplay of Gordon Hayward but that's not where the juice is in a story like this.

All that being said, I think Kyrie ultimately needs another big star to compliment him, and the Celtics couldn't bring that to bear this season. Hayward either hasn't recovered from his injury or has been diminished by his injury. The young guys never stepped up to the new level needed. It was basically a rich man's version of the Lakers this year.

I'm still buzzing/thinking about/distracted by that Rockets-Warriors game last night. I feel that will absolutely be a 30 for 30 in 15 or 20 years. That felt so significant in the moment. The Warriors finally fragile. Steph having a bad game up until that point. The rockets and harden having a good game. And then a really bizarre 4th quarter from the Rockets on both ends of the floor. It was as dramatic a storyline as anything I've seen in a basketball game in a long time. I still don't understand it. Even if Durant is done, I don't have extreme confidence in the Rockets after that game.

As far as the Lakers, this drops my low confidence in them to now even more minuscule levels which is why I didn't want Lebron to go there in the first place. The decision making within the franchise is idiotic and dysfunctional. I was never a big fan of Lue in Cleveland but I had come to terms with his selection and had even started to look on the bright side of at least he will understand how to use Lebron in a system, even though his system isn't remotely ideal. They can't even land that and lowball him in a passive aggressive move by management where nobody seems to be in charge. If they fucking hire Jason Kidd, I'll riot

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #21266 on:** May 09, 2019, 03:51:05 PM »

Durant supposedly out for the rest of the series and will be re-evaluated in a week.

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/26709802/source-kd-calf-strain-miss-rest-series

ToxicAdam · « **Reply #21267 on:** May 09, 2019, 04:05:28 PM »

Boston media and assassinating athletes on the way out the door. Name a more iconic duo.

team filler · « **Reply #21268 on:** May 09, 2019, 06:18:02 PM »

https://twitter.com/SBNation/status/1126494536409153536

benjipwns · « **Reply #21269 on:** May 09, 2019, 07:06:34 PM »

lol at people acting like Steve Kerr crossed some line by cursing in his press conferences, WHAT IF CHILDREN WERE WATCHING

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #21270 on:** May 09, 2019, 11:42:15 PM »

https://twitter.com/TheOnion/status/1126594705326841862

agrajag · « **Reply #21271 on:** May 10, 2019, 05:36:00 AM »

Durant is out for the series..

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #21272 on:** May 10, 2019, 10:49:54 AM »

Portland Nuggets series has been low key great Nuggets are really fun to watch. And Hood who Lue couldn't get anything out of in Cleveland has been really good in portland.

Let's Cyber · « **Reply #21273 on:** May 10, 2019, 03:26:16 PM »

Quote from: Stoney Mason on May 10, 2019, 10:49:54 AM

Portland Nuggets series has been low key great Nuggets are really fun to watch. And Hood who Lue couldn't get anything out of in Cleveland has been really good in portland.

It's probably been the most competitive series in the playoffs so far. It's been really great to watch. Dubs/Rockets has been good too, or at least it's been high on drama.

Raptors/76ers has mostly been blowouts in either direction.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #21274 on:** May 10, 2019, 11:33:42 PM »

Rockets

jakefromstatefarm · « **Reply #21275 on:** May 10, 2019, 11:39:45 PM »

that game was super high drama

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #21276 on:** May 10, 2019, 11:49:00 PM »

I mean I'm not sure what to say. The rockets are probably the 2nd best team in the league again. They played the Warriors for the 2nd year in a row in what essentially was the NBA Finals again. There is no shame in coming up second to the Warriors generally speaking because nobody in this era can beat this stacked team but I mean this was the opportunity and year where they could have and should have. Not taking advantage of the Durant injury is a killer that is gonna haunt this franchise for quite awhile.

jakefromstatefarm · « **Reply #21277 on:** May 10, 2019, 11:56:05 PM »

https://twitter.com/mutsackcraig/status/1127053580144381952

team filler · « **Reply #21278 on:** May 11, 2019, 12:28:36 AM »

https://twitter.com/D_West30/status/1127056001901797376

Fifstar · « **Reply #21279 on:** May 11, 2019, 03:29:03 AM »

Quote from: filler on May 11, 2019, 12:28:36 AM

https://twitter.com/D_West30/status/1127056001901797376

Eh, without their ugly statistics driven by ball they're probably an average team.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #21280 on:** May 11, 2019, 08:38:11 AM »

says the ring chaser. Fuck off West.

Nola · « **Reply #21281 on:** May 11, 2019, 09:15:05 AM »

Quote from: Fifstar on May 11, 2019, 03:29:03 AM

Quote from: filler on May 11, 2019, 12:28:36 AM
https://twitter.com/D_West30/status/1127056001901797376

Eh, without their ugly statistics driven by ball they're probably an average team.

Without all that nerd shit West is ringless.

Let's Cyber · « **Reply #21282 on:** May 11, 2019, 07:33:10 PM »

The Lakers are a disaster.

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/26723733/vogel-coach-lakers-kidd-staff

Let's Cyber · « **Reply #21283 on:** May 11, 2019, 07:41:24 PM »

Bonus:

https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/nba-free-agency-rumors-kyrie-irving-has-had-discussions-about-playing-for-lakers-per-report/

Possible Cleveland West.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #21284 on:** May 11, 2019, 10:14:14 PM »

Not a huge fan of the vogel thing but I'd be fine with Kyrie on the Lakers. Until this post-season everybody loved Kyrie game. Players have bad post-seasons. It happens. Kawhi would still be my dream choice but I'd be cool with Kyrie as an addition.

I don't think the Anthony Davis thing is happening so I don't even bother to think about it.

Steve Contra · « **Reply #21285 on:** May 11, 2019, 10:29:57 PM »

I'm a Warriors fan but honestly I would have been happy with anyone knocking out the Rockets. I can't fault them for for playing to win, but God what ugly basketball.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #21286 on:** May 12, 2019, 06:29:21 PM »

Good for Portland. I would have been happy to see either team advance. Also a nice win against the punditry which was telling them to split up Mcollum and Liliard after last post season

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #21287 on:** May 12, 2019, 06:41:46 PM »

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/26731947/mavs-porzingis-involved-bloody-altercation

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TMZ reported that the men who attacked Porzingis were upset that he left the New York Knicks, who traded him to the Mavericks on Jan. 31 due in part to the All-Star being disgruntled with the franchise.

lol bullshit.

I don't believe that people in Latvia care about the New York Knicks.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #21288 on:** May 12, 2019, 11:11:24 PM »

Great day of Basketball.

I was rooting for the 76ers for selfish reasons but its pretty cool to see the two best teams out of the East play each other.

I don't have much hope for the Blazers but good on them for getting so far.

Let's Cyber · « **Reply #21289 on:** May 13, 2019, 12:21:08 AM »

Kawhi da gawd.

It's basically an annual tradition for the Dubs to suck the soul out of Portland in the playoffs so I'm not hopeful but it would be a nice redemption story if they somehow pulled it off. Could be end up being interesting if Durant is out for a few more weeks.

bluemax · « **Reply #21290 on:** May 13, 2019, 01:23:14 AM »

Quote from: filler on May 11, 2019, 12:28:36 AM

https://twitter.com/D_West30/status/1127056001901797376

Yes because the Warriors don't invest heavily in metrics... oh wait, they do!

Quote from: Let's Cyber on May 11, 2019, 07:33:10 PM

The Lakers are a disaster.

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/26723733/vogel-coach-lakers-kidd-staff

The Lakers have been transforming into Knick West for years. It turns out modern players aren't completely lured in by the prestige of once famous franchises in big cities.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #21291 on:** May 14, 2019, 11:24:51 PM »

https://twitter.com/darrenrovell/status/1128465208169717760

spoiler (click to show/hide)

I'm a hypocrite. When they went to commercial and the Lakers were gonna be a minimum top 4 pick and still had a chance at the top pick, I was freaking out

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Akala · « **Reply #21292 on:** May 14, 2019, 11:29:10 PM »

jakefromstatefarm · « **Reply #21293 on:** May 14, 2019, 11:34:12 PM »

Portland has to make major adjustments on both sides of the ball. Shit didn’t even feel like a playoff game

benjipwns · « **Reply #21294 on:** May 14, 2019, 11:54:45 PM »

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Zion Williamson was quickly whisked out of the room after Pelicans were announced the winner of the draft lottery. Source said the former Duke star was rooting to go to New York

this year has been

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #21295 on:** May 15, 2019, 12:17:13 AM »

Quote from: jakefromstatefarm on May 14, 2019, 11:34:12 PM

Portland has to make major adjustments on both sides of the ball. Shit didn’t even feel like a playoff game

Unfortunately Rockets/Warriors was probably the real nba finals.

jakefromstatefarm · « **Reply #21296 on:** May 15, 2019, 12:52:00 AM »

idk, I think Milwaukee’s probably better than Houston and Torontos close enough. Either one’ll have home court in the finals too

Nola · « **Reply #21297 on:** May 15, 2019, 08:38:22 AM »

Quote from: Stoney Mason on May 14, 2019, 11:24:51 PM

https://twitter.com/darrenrovell/status/1128465208169717760

spoiler (click to show/hide)
I'm a hypocrite. When they went to commercial and the Lakers were gonna be a minimum top 4 pick and still had a chance at the top pick, I was freaking out
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Better video

https://twitter.com/KevinOConnorNBA/status/1128498723619778561

Not always sold on him as a coach, but how can anyone not love Alvin Gentry?

Nola · « **Reply #21298 on:** May 15, 2019, 09:42:25 AM »

Quote from: Glen on May 15, 2019, 04:19:07 AM

Lakers moving up from 11th to 4th is pretty great. We should be able to get a good player.

I’d rather not trade for a star when we have a max slot, unless we strike out on everyone good.

People are sleeping on Garland because he went down early in the season but he has all the tools you look for in a modern NBA guard: elite shooting, elite ball handling, good passing ability, can play on and off ball. Of course, Lebron and LA aren't about that development life.

I think I even like him more than Barrett tbh.

benjipwns · « **Reply #21299 on:** May 15, 2019, 09:50:13 AM »

Quote from: Zach Lowe

Gentry wore a black tie with silver-gray striping. It was his good-luck charm. David Griffin, New Orleans' new executive vice president of basketball operations, gave it to Gentry. Griffin was a member of the Cleveland Cavaliers' front office during a stretch in which the Cavs won three lotteries in four years, from 2011 to 2014. Each time, a man named Jeff Cohen -- a former vice chair for the Cavs and confidant of owner Dan Gilbert -- represented the team in the drawing room.

I began referring to Cohen as a warlock. Gilbert and Cohen had some sort of falling out, and the Cavs have not had him in the room in either of the past two lotteries. (Cleveland owned Brooklyn's pick a year ago.) I half-jokingly said the Cavs had cursed themselves.

And then Gentry revealed the ultimate plot twist: The tie Gentry wore Tuesday was the same one Cohen wore in each of those three lottery wins. Griffin had phoned Cohen and asked for a good-luck charm in the lead-up to the lottery, he told ESPN.com in the aftermath Tuesday. Cohen scoffed at the idea that any trinket could win the favor of the lottery gods. Griffin asked if he might please send the tie. Cohen did. Griffin passed it on to Gentry.

Put Jeff Cohen and his damned tie in the Hall of Fame. Gentry said he is going to frame the tie and the lottery balls, and hang it in the Pelicans' practice facility.

...

Between Griffin, Cohen and Cohen's tie, I'm starting to believe in some real mystical stuff. I'm a little scared. I also worry that in excising all three, the Cavaliers will suffer years of self-inflicted bad luck.

yikes, i hope the NBA is looking into this

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