Fallout 3 I am started playing game

[cool breeze]

hacking stats would take away some joy of rpgs for me.  Even if combat is often messy, I still enjoy seeing my character improve.  In Deus Ex when you start, melee weapons and pretty much shit and if you want to play stealth, you have to use the stun prod that has limited ammo.  When you pump that stat up, you get to the point where you can take out enemies by whacking them in the back once with a baton.  Plus not being master of everything makes you focus on a certain play style, which is part of that whole role playing aspect of it.

Combat in Fallout 3 was fine, I thought.  I mostly got through the game by using VATs on faces, or going up close with a shotgun.  I like what they're doing with New Vegas.  Sounds like there are enemies that don't all succumb to bullet to the face.  Different types of weapons and areas you shoot will matter now.  Also, I think hardcore mode and adding weight to ammo will effect things. Btw, The non-lethal option doesn't sound like it changes combat at all.  You use boxing gloves instead of fisto and a bean bag shotgun instead of regular ammo.

[Himu]

Combat in Fallout 3 is totally fine.

[Ichirou]

I'm going to keep playing this game cuz people say it takes about ten hours or so to pick up.  I ran into a couple of hideously deformed Super Mutants.  One of them was chasing me with a melee weapon and the other one fired a missile and hit him instead of me, then I destroyed the missile launcher and was able to take the other one out.

Now I have no ammo left and I'm in the middle of the wasteland.  Fuck.

[bork]

I'm going to keep playing this game cuz people say it takes about ten hours or so to pick up.  I ran into a couple of hideously deformed Super Mutants.  One of them was chasing me with a melee weapon and the other one fired a missile and hit him instead of me, then I destroyed the missile launcher and was able to take the other one out.

Now I have no ammo left and I'm in the middle of the wasteland.  Fuck.

I came to a point near an old drive-in movie theater where there was a small house.  Some woman was being held prisoner and there were a couple of super mutants, one with a fucking chain gun, that would just whip my ass every time I got near.  Never did go back.

[Madrun Badrun]

Now I have no ammo left and I'm in the middle of the wasteland.  Fuck.

The words of Ichi as a young boy growing up in Puerto Rico.

[Ichirou]

Have you ever even traveled outside of Canada?

[tiesto]

Most WRPGs don't require cheating unless you suck at the genre.

I hope this wasn't aimed at me - I beat Fable, Jade Empire, ME1 and 2, Fallout 3, etc. without cheating... not gonna cheat when I go through Witcher, Planescape, FO1 and 2 later in the year. In fact I never cheat in games. I will break them tho, especially if they are of the type where the designers intend you to break (certain NIS/tri-Ace games).

[tiesto]

I'm going to keep playing this game cuz people say it takes about ten hours or so to pick up.  I ran into a couple of hideously deformed Super Mutants.  One of them was chasing me with a melee weapon and the other one fired a missile and hit him instead of me, then I destroyed the missile launcher and was able to take the other one out.

Now I have no ammo left and I'm in the middle of the wasteland.  Fuck.

Take on some dungeons, first... in dungeons, enemies don't respawn, plus you'll find a ton of loot in them... especially health packs. I was having trouble with the game, but I remember discovering a hospital in the downtown area, that had a TON of health packs, that really helped me out...

[Ichirou]

What's the easiest way to get caps?

[BlueTsunami]

What's the easiest way to get caps?

Just hittup' some metros or dungeon areas, kill enemies and sell their equipment. Building up the Repair skill is great for this since you can take multiple weapons that you find and merge them and sell them for more caps.

The Super Market thats near the starting area is a nice place to go to first (and doing some of Moira's quests will get you familiar with the locales).

[Ichirou]

I musta missed the supermarket, I headed straight toward this town headed on top of an overpass called Arefu.

[OptimoPeach]

Also, I think hardcore mode and adding weight to ammo will effect things.

LOL I didn't hear about this. Shit sequel confirmed

[Great Rumbler]

Also, I think hardcore mode and adding weight to ammo will effect things.

LOL I didn't hear about this. Shit sequel confirmed

The hard core mode is entirely optional.

[BlueTsunami]

Also, I think hardcore mode and adding weight to ammo will effect things.

LOL I didn't hear about this. Shit sequel confirmed

They're also bringing back the multiple ammo types (AP, Hollow Point? and others. Specific ammo for laser weapons too). I loved the fuck out of the AP Gun? in Fallout 2, that shit would fuck shit up.

[OptimoPeach]

Ohh I thought that was just going to be a uniform change. Phew. Nothing ruins questing and looting like a stupid weight limit

[cool breeze]

Also, I think hardcore mode and adding weight to ammo will effect things.

LOL I didn't hear about this. Shit sequel confirmed

It's not the default mode and it is up to the player if they want to use it.  It adds weight to ammo, has dehydration, and things like that.  They mentioned that the only real reward for playing this way (other than player satisfaction) is an achievement.  Plus, you can try it out, and if it is too much, you can switch to the normal mode mid-game.

[Bildi]

Adding weight to ammo?  Ew.

fallout 3 combat was awesome if you actually cranked up the difficulty instead of playing on pansy difficulty.  you actually WOULD have to use strategy because you'd do such a small amount of damage.  the early game felt almost like survival horror because you had to creep around since you couldn't take on more than a couple enemies at once.  Mutants were almost invincible unless you destroyed their weapons.  The larger animals would kill you in 2-3 hits if you didn't cripple them first to keep from getting close.  You'd even have to make good use of the available drugs/alcohol to boost your stats.  Hell, even at the end of the game deathclaws, yao guis or whatever, and those big-ass crabs could still do a decent job of fucking you up.  the challenge and strategy was there if you wanted it.

At level 27 I just did Vault 87 with my gauss rifle and Chinese stealth armour on very hard and it was VERY HARD.  Three of four super mutants on top of you in a confined space ... goddamn.

And don't even talk to me about Albino Radscorpions.

[Bildi]

What's the easiest way to get caps?

Stealing works well too if you're dying a lot.  You'll also be the baddest bad-ass in the wastelands because of all the negative karma.

[Ichirou]

bobobobobo I wanna play as a good guy.  I'm even avoiding lockpicking doors and stealing shit from people's houses.

[Joe Molotov]

Just give water to homeless people and it all balances out.

[Ichirou]

They want unpolluted water, though, dunno where to get that.

[demi]

Your robot pet in Megaton gives you filtered water

[Bildi]

If I remember right, it's much easier to build positive karma quickly than negative (give purified water or donate to a priest). So you can be a total prick, and just give a few bucks to the church to fix it if you need to.  Being evil also means you'll get easy access to a couple of places later on.  I can't recall being denied entry anywhere for being evil.

Lockpicking (and hacking terminals) is also a great way to build experience without getting your ass handed to you in the wastelands.  I think if you up the difficulty before lockpicking or hacking you may get more experience also.

[Great Rumbler]

I made it through the whole game without building much negative karma, or really needing too. You get tons of loot and caps just from fighting random bandits in the wasteland, which doesn't give you karma either way. Most of the time, you don't really come across much that's worth stealing in people's homes and in towns. Locked stuff in dungeons or abandoned buildings doesn't give you karma either and that's where you can pick up even more loot, a good place to start is the supermarket. Talk to the woman in the general store in Megaton and she'll give you a quest to head down there and check it out.

So, really, just don't worry about stealing unless you're doing very poorly early on and in that case it's easy to build your karma back up later on when you're more settled.

[Himu]

Why do people think it takes 10 hours to pick up? It takes like 30-40 minutes to an hour to out of the vault and into Megaton. And Megaton rocks. Lots of stuff happening there.

Ichi: Here's a quick tip for early game shenanigans: kill the guys selling guns and shit outside megaton. Take their weapons, armor, money...and it'll last you a while. You'll get evil points, but you can balance that out with the bum trick.

[Great Rumbler]

One of the best things to do when you first get to Megaton is to talk to everybody, some of them will give you quests and that will give you something to focus on in the early going. If you just breeze through Megaton and then run out into the wastes, it can make the game feel a bit aimless.

[BlueTsunami]

You live in a post apocalyptic world, lockpicking is a necessary evil

[Himu]

Do the Wasteland Survival Guide. It will get you up to grips and you WILL explore a giant portion of the wastes. Great for money, loot, exploration, the whole shebang.

You live in a post apocalyptic world, lockpicking is a necessary evil

I hate lockpicking in this game.

[Himu]

One of the best things to do when you first get to Megaton is to talk to everybody, some of them will give you quests and that will give you something to focus on in the early going. If you just breeze through Megaton and then run out into the wastes, it can make the game feel a bit aimless.

Who plays an rpg without talking to everybody to begin with? That's no rpg fan. That's a failure.

[BlueTsunami]

I hate lockpicking in this game.

I loved it. The lockpicking mini' in Oblivion was more of a pain in the ass. I liked how this one required a bit of a touch or feel for the sweet spot.

[fistfulofmetal]

I hate lockpicking in this game.

yeah? well i hate you

[BlueTsunami]

<3

I can pick a Very Hard lock without breaking my pick

[Himu]

I hate lockpicking in this game.

I loved it. The lockpicking mini' in Oblivion was more of a pain in the ass. I liked how this one required a bit of a touch or feel for the sweet spot.

ugh as someone who plays as ninjas and thieves and rogues, lockpicking kinda has to be my expertise. But man is it annoying in FO3, especially since picks are in limited supply due to the setting. I'd rather just have oldschool style where, so long as your stat is higher than the roll required to open the lock it automatically opens. These mini games in my arr pee gee's are mad homo.

At least the lock picking is better than the hacking, which is terrible.

Fallout 3 really isn't designed for sneaky player in mind. Is New Vegas going to do this better?

I hate lockpicking in this game.

yeah? well i hate you

I can never win you over. what's a guy gotta do to get summa dat fistful sugar?  :'(

[fistfulofmetal]

pull up developer console

type player.additem <00000a> <999>


there you go, never worry about lock picking again

[Himu]

well i played on 360, which has no console.

But when i get goty edition you can bet your ass I will do that.

[BlueTsunami]

I hate lockpicking in this game.

I loved it. The lockpicking mini' in Oblivion was more of a pain in the ass. I liked how this one required a bit of a touch or feel for the sweet spot.

Fallout 3 really isn't designed for sneaky player in mind. Is New Vegas going to do this better?

I think you can easily play as a very sneaky character in this game, to the point where it breaks the game when you have the Chinese Stealth Suit (that gives you +5 Stealth and +5 Chameleon? I think). Not sure if they're gonna tweak the abilities in New Vegas.

[Himu]

Well of course, I generally meant that playing a sneaky character isn't particularly fun because of crappy lock picking and hacking.

Is the Chinese Stealth Suit that piece of armor you get at that one place where you fight a BUNCH of Chinese people? Fuck I don't remember. I didn't even manage to beat the game!

[Great Rumbler]

I never had any problem with picking locks or with running out of lockpicks. I could usually find enough lying around to take care of any locks I came across and was good enough at the lockpicking system that I didn't loose too many during my attempts.

The hacking minigame is much easier once you realize that backing out before the final attempt resets it. Also look for brackets hidden in the code, that'll take away one of the choices or give you an extra try [I think different brackets do different things].

[BlueTsunami]

Well of course, I generally meant that playing a sneaky character isn't particularly fun because of crappy lock picking and hacking.

Is the Chinese Stealth Suit that piece of armor you get at that one place where you fight a BUNCH of Chinese people? Fuck I don't remember. I didn't even manage to beat the game!

You get it in the Operation Anchorage expansion. Not sure if you played through it. You also get the fucking awesome Gauss Rifle from that expansion <3

But about the Chinese Stealth Suit. With 100 Stealth and the Chinese Stealth Suit, you can go into sneak mode in broad daylight and slip grenades/mines into Enclave/Mutant soldiers pockets, sneak away and watch them explode. They'll never see you.

[Himu]

I only played Fallout 3 vanilla.

Are the expansions good? Honestly I don't even care about the expansions. I just want to be able to continue the game after the main story.

[BlueTsunami]

I only played Fallout 3 vanilla.

Are the expansions good? Honestly I don't even care about the expansions. I just want to be able to continue the game after the main story.

You'll want the Broken Steel expansion if you want to play beyond the ending. As far as the others, the only one I enjoyed was The Pitt. Operation Zeta was just tubes ala FFXIII, Operation Anchorage was boring and I couldn't get into Point Lookout at all.

[Himu]

Sounds like poop. I just want new features added to the main game.

[Great Rumbler]

Broken Steel
The Pitt
Point Lookout

Ignore the others.

[brawndolicious]

I only played Fallout 3 vanilla.
Are the expansions good? Honestly I don't even care about the expansions. I just want to be able to continue the game after the main story.

Well Broken Steel raises the level cap, adds new perks, and I believe that you can continue exploring after the final mission is complete.  It's real nice how those extra ten levels make it so that you can basically get all the good perks in the game.

I hate lockpicking in this game.

It's a lot better than in Oblivion where breaking picks is so easy.  I never really had a problem at any level with losing lockpicks as long as I was careful about it.  No lock should take you more than 5-10 seconds.

[fistfulofmetal]

point outlook is AWESOME. really fun location to explore. some great quests too

[OptimoPeach]

Yeah Point Lookout was my favorite by far

[Himu]

Are the dlc with the same character or a different or what?

[Great Rumbler]

Are the dlc with the same character or a different or what?

You don't need a new character to play the DLC. Point Lookout is accessed through a boat on the river and The Pitt through a highway tunnel. Broken Steel takes place after the final scene in the F3's storyline.

[demi]

Broken Steel
The Pitt
Point Lookout

Ignore the others.

Fixed (aside from stealing the baby at the end of The Pitt then dropping the baby in the poisonous water)