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What do the smart people on the 'bore think of this?
« on: July 12, 2010, 03:27:40 PM »
http://www.helium.com/items/1882339-doomsday-how-bp-gulf-disaster-may-have-triggered-a-world-killing-event

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Ominous reports are leaking past the BP Gulf salvage operation news blackout that the disaster unfolding in the Gulf of Mexico may be about to reach biblical proportions.

251 million years ago a mammoth undersea methane bubble caused massive explosions, poisoned the atmosphere and destroyed more than 96 percent of all life on Earth. [1] Experts agree that what is known as the Permian extinction event was the greatest mass extinction event in the history of the world. [2]


 


55 million years later another methane bubble ruptured causing more mass extinctions during the Late Paleocene Thermal Maximum (LPTM).

The LPTM lasted 100,000 years. [3]

Those subterranean seas of methane virtually reshaped the planet when they explosively blew from deep beneath the waters of what is today called the Gulf of Mexico.

Now, worried scientists are increasingly concerned the same series of catastrophic events that led to worldwide death back then may be happening again-and no known technology can stop it.

The bottom line: BP’s Deepwater Horizon drilling operation may have triggered an irreversible, cascading geological Apocalypse that will culminate with the first mass extinction of life on Earth in many millions of years.

The oil giant drilled down miles into a geologically unstable region and may have set the stage for the eventual premature release of a methane mega-bubble.

Ryskin’s methane extinction theory

Northwestern University's Gregory Ryskin, a bio-chemical engineer, has a theory: The oceans periodically produce massive eruptions of explosive methane gas. He has documented the scientific evidence that such an event was directly responsible for the mass extinctions that occurred 55 million years ago. [4]

Many geologists concur: "The consequences of a methane-driven oceanic eruption for marine and terrestrial life are likely to be catastrophic. Figuratively speaking, the erupting region "boils over," ejecting a large amount of methane and other gases (e.g., CO2, H2S) into the atmosphere, and flooding large areas of land. Whereas pure methane is lighter than air, methane loaded with water droplets is much heavier, and thus spreads over the land, mixing with air in the process (and losing water as rain). The air-methane mixture is explosive at methane concentrations between 5% and 15%; as such mixtures form in different locations near the ground and are ignited by lightning, explosions and conflagrations destroy most of the terrestrial life, and also produce great amounts of smoke and of carbon dioxide..." [5]

The warning signs of an impending planetary catastrophe—of such great magnitude that the human mind has difficulty grasping it-would be the appearance of large fissures or rifts splitting open the ocean floor, a rise in the elevation of the seabed, and the massive venting of methane and other gases into the surrounding water.

Such occurrences can lead to the rupture of the methane bubble containment—it can then permit the methane to breach the subterranean depths and undergo an explosive decompression as it catapults into the Gulf waters.  [6]

All three warning signs are documented to be occurring in the Gulf.

Ground zero: The Gulf Coast

The people and property located on the greater expanse of the Gulf Coast are sitting at Ground Zero. They will be the first exposed to poisonous, cancer causing chemical gases. They will be the ones that initially experience the full fury of a methane bubble exploding from the ruptured seabed.

The media has been kept away from the emergency salvage measures being taken to forestall the biggest catastrophe in human history. The federal government has warned them away from the epicenter of operations with the threat of a $40,000 fine for each infraction and the possibility of felony arrests.

Why is the press being kept away? Word is that the disaster is escalating.

Cracks and bulges

Methane is now streaming through the porous, rocky seabed at an accelerated rate and gushing from the borehole of the first relief well. The EPA is on record that Rig #1 is releasing methane, benzene, hydrogen sulfide and other toxic gases. Workers there now wear advanced protection including state-of-the-art, military-issued gas masks.

Reports, filtering through from oceanologists and salvage workers in the region, state that the upper level strata of the ocean floor is succumbing to greater and greater pressure. That pressure is causing a huge expanse of the seabed-estimated by some as spreading over thousands of square miles surrounding the BP wellhead-to bulge. Some claim the seabed in the region has risen an astounding 30 feet.

The fractured BP wellhead, site of the former Deepwater Horizon, has become the epicenter of frenetic attempts to quell the monstrous flow of methane.

The subterranean methane is pressurized at 100,000 pounds psi. According to Matt Simmons, an oil industry expert, the methane pressure at the wellhead has now skyrocketed to a terrifying 40,000 pounds psi.

Another well-respected expert, Dr. John Kessler of Texas A&M University has calculated that the ruptured well is spewing 60 percent oil and 40 percent methane. The normal methane amount that escapes from a compromised well is about 5 percent.

More evidence? A huge gash on the ocean floor—like a ragged wound hundreds of feet long—has been reported by the NOAA research ship, Thomas Jefferson. Before the curtain of the government enforced news blackout again descended abruptly, scientists aboard the ship voiced their concerns that the widening rift may go down miles into the earth.

That gash too is hemorrhaging oil and methane. It’s 10 miles away from the BP epicenter. Other, new fissures, have been spotted as far as 30 miles distant.

Measurements of the multiple oil plumes now appearing miles from the wellhead indicate that as much as a total  of 124,000 barrels of oil are erupting into the Gulf waters daily-that’s about 5,208,000 gallons of oil per day.

Most disturbing of all: Methane levels in the water are now calculated as being almost one million times higher than normal. [7]

Mass death on the water

If the methane bubble—a bubble that could be as big as 20 miles wide—erupts with titanic force from the seabed into the Gulf, every ship, drilling rig and structure within the region of the bubble will immediately sink. All the workers, engineers, Coast Guard personnel and marine biologists participating in the salvage operation will die instantly.

Next, the ocean bottom will collapse, instantaneously displacing up to a trillion cubic feet of water or more and creating a towering supersonic tsunami annihilating everything along the coast and well inland. Like a thermonuclear blast, a high pressure atmospheric wave could precede the tidal wave flattening everything in its path before the water arrives.

When the roaring tsunami does arrive it will scrub away all that is left.

A chemical cocktail of poisons

Some environmentalist experts are calling what’s pouring into the land, sea and air from the seabed breach ’a chemical cocktail of poisons.’

Areas of dead zones devoid of oxygen are driving species of fish into foreign waters, killing plankton and other tiny sea life that are the foundation for the entire food chain, and polluting the air with cancer-causing chemicals and poisonous rainfalls.

A report from one observer in South Carolina documents oily residue left behind after a recent thunderstorm. And before the news blackout fully descended the EPA released data that benzene levels in New Orleans had rocketed to 3,000 parts per billion.

Benzene is extremely toxic and even short term exposure can cause agonizing death from cancerous lesions years later.

The people of Louisiana have been exposed for more than two months—and the benzene levels may be much higher now. The EPA measurement was taken in early May. [8]

Doomsday

While some say it can’t happen because the bulk of the methane is frozen into crystalline form, others point out that the underground methane sea is gradually melting from the nearby surging oil that’s estimated to be as hot as 500 degrees Fahrenheit.

Most experts in the know, however, agree that if the world-changing event does occur it will happen suddenly and within the next 6 months.

So, if events go against  Mankind and the bubble bursts in the coming months, Gregory Ryskin may become one of the most famous people in the world. Of course, he won't have long to enjoy his new found fame because very shortly after the methane eruption civilization will collapse.

Perhaps if humanity is very, very lucky, some may find a way to avoid the mass extinction that follows and carry on the human race.

Perhaps.
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Re: What do the smart people on the 'bore think of this?
« Reply #1 on: July 12, 2010, 03:32:52 PM »
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Re: What do the smart people on the 'bore think of this?
« Reply #2 on: July 12, 2010, 03:36:14 PM »
They could stop the leak if they really wanted to, but it would hurt the bottom line. Profit > all
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Re: What do the smart people on the 'bore think of this?
« Reply #3 on: July 12, 2010, 03:37:59 PM »
How does the Fire Hurricane factor in?
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Re: What do the smart people on the 'bore think of this?
« Reply #4 on: July 12, 2010, 03:40:56 PM »
we had a good run
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« Reply #5 on: July 12, 2010, 03:42:49 PM »
I like how this is on the same website as articles about "How to use printable grocery coupons" and "How to pick the best college dorm bedding".
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« Reply #6 on: July 12, 2010, 03:46:29 PM »
I'm thinking T234 can beat it back with an aircraft carrier-sized dildo.
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Re: What do the smart people on the 'bore think of this?
« Reply #7 on: July 12, 2010, 03:47:22 PM »
So of all the wells in the gulf, this is the golden ticket?

Seriously though, it doesn't sound like it's really explaining anything at all well.  A lot of the "evidence" is anecdotal and the facts it does claim are not actually explained.  I mean, I have no fucking idea how big of a deal "40,000 psi" of methane at the wellhead is.

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« Reply #8 on: July 12, 2010, 03:49:19 PM »
Also, it says the usual psi is 100,000, then says it has skyrocketed to a terrifying 40,000 psi. Uhhh
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« Reply #9 on: July 12, 2010, 03:52:50 PM »
Found this just a few clicks over on the same site:

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The irony of a site like Helium is summed up in the words at the top of its page: "Where knowledge rules."

Helium gives voice to writers who take hearsay and rumor and present them in such a way as to make the public believe they constitute knowledge, when in fact they do not.

Let's take Terrence Aym's latest article "Doomsday: How BP Gulf disaster may have triggered a 'world-killing' event".

In it he mentions "ominous reports" leaking from the gulf operation.  What ominous reports?  Sources?  Terrence names none.

Terrence refers to the Permian extinction and that it was caused by a mammoth undersea methane bubble.  He goes so far as to list a source.  Checking the source one finds scientific theory that does not support Terrence's statement even slightly.  Scientists theorize the Permian extinction was caused by glaciation, not a giant undersea methane bubble explosion.

Terrence's mention of the LPTM and its connection to his "story" strays so far from fact that to list all of the ways he fails here would take me most of my morning.

He states, "Those subterranean seas of methane virtually reshaped the planet when they explosively blew from deep beneath the waters of what is today called the Gulf of Mexico."  Uh, no, Terrence.  There is no scientific evidence supporting that statement whatsoever, and the LPTM is said to have sourced from the Indian Ocean.

Next he goes on, "Now, worried scientists are increasingly concerned the same series of catastrophic events that led to worldwide death back then may be happening again-and no known technology can stop it."  Again, what "worried scientists"?  No mention of names or sources.  Just a blurry reference.

Terrence mentions Gregory Ryskin and his "Methane Theory."  Ryskin's theory is controversial, self-admittedly.  Further, there is virtually no connection between what Ryskin is theorizing about and what is presently going on beneath the waters in the Gulf.

In the section of this piece subtitled "Cracks and bulges," Terrence gives a laundry list of supposed facts about what is going on a mile beneath the ocean surface in the Gulf, without any supporting documentation or empirical evidence of these facts.

The end of his article wistfully offers that, should the events in the Gulf unfold into a disaster of "biblical proportions" (an overused and unqualified term), as the article suggests; Gregory Ryfkin will be world-famous, albeit for a short period as most of mankind will be wiped out.  "Perhaps..."

So, I want to personally thank Terrence and others like him (Richard Hoagland, for example) for the fear mongering.  I want to thank them for walking the streets of the information superhighway and carrying the sign high above their heads proclaiming "The End Is Nigh."  I want to thank them on behalf of my friends who might read their articles with a less analytical eye and take what they are saying as it is intended to be taken; as fact, as knowledge, when in truth it is little more than slightly informed opinion.

There is no question the BP Gulf disaster is horrible and devastating to the earth and environment, and that it shall leave an indelible mark upon our home for years to come. The facts that it is occurring a mile below sea level where no one can see it and that information about what's going on down there is difficult to obtain leaves the subject rife for doomsday scenarios, conspiracy theories, and other frightening speculation by those who wish to push buttons, get readers, make profits, get attention, etc.

http://www.helium.com/items/1889326-fear-mongering-rife-around-the-gulf
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« Reply #10 on: July 12, 2010, 03:56:03 PM »
wow, it's like getting scientifically rick-rolled.  Awesome site.

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« Reply #11 on: July 12, 2010, 03:57:16 PM »
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« Reply #12 on: July 12, 2010, 04:00:44 PM »
By the way, this Helium website seems to be nothing more than a prettied-up FictionPress.
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« Reply #13 on: July 12, 2010, 04:02:12 PM »
Roger Ebert actually posted this on Twitter a while ago and was like "OH MY GOD HUMANITY HAS FUCKED UP REAL GOOD"

I RT'd it just so I could make a Bruce Willis joke.
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« Reply #14 on: July 12, 2010, 04:05:45 PM »
Roger Ebert actually posted this on Twitter a while ago and was like "OH MY GOD HUMANITY HAS FUCKED UP REAL GOOD"

I RT'd it just so I could make a Bruce Willis joke.

Old man duped by vaguely-worded, unsourced doomsday article on the internet? I am SHOCKED!

Also:

http://open.salon.com/blog/aaron_rury/2010/07/10/on_methane_and_the_nature_of_inquiry
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« Reply #15 on: July 12, 2010, 04:11:27 PM »
we just need to start firing shit at this "methane bubble" to break it up so it's as big of a bubble.  preferably with guns and rockets and shit.

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« Reply #16 on: July 12, 2010, 04:12:23 PM »
No, drill, baby, drill. Like I said, Bruce Willis is the man for the job.
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« Reply #18 on: July 12, 2010, 04:29:39 PM »
on the one hand, shitawesome gigasmo explosions

on the other, you have to die after you see them

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« Reply #19 on: July 12, 2010, 04:34:35 PM »
Wouldn't it be more like the biggest fart even than an explosion?

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« Reply #20 on: July 12, 2010, 04:37:03 PM »
Wouldn't it be more like the biggest fart even than an explosion?

Yes, but flatus is combustible.
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« Reply #21 on: July 12, 2010, 04:38:43 PM »
maybe, i'm sure it would blow a fuckton of water around

and the thought of a worldwide killer fart just makes the 12 year old in me pass out from excitement
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« Reply #22 on: July 12, 2010, 04:40:01 PM »
The Day the Earth Farted and Killed Everybody. Written/Directed by M. Night Shyamalan, based on an unproduced Edward D. Wood Jr. script.
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« Reply #23 on: July 12, 2010, 04:40:45 PM »
be sure and stay after the credits for the blooper reel
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« Reply #24 on: July 12, 2010, 04:41:47 PM »
Produced by Dreamworks Animation.
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« Reply #25 on: July 12, 2010, 04:44:09 PM »
Wouldn't it be more like the biggest fart even than an explosion?

Yes, but flatus is combustible.

It would just take one wiseass with a match, and goodbye humanity.

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« Reply #26 on: July 12, 2010, 04:46:39 PM »
Well if it's that saturated, we'd suffocate.  But at least it would be odorless.

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« Reply #27 on: July 12, 2010, 09:27:26 PM »
Wouldn't it be more like the biggest fart even than an explosion?

Yes, but flatus is combustible.

It would just take one wiseass with a match, and goodbye humanity.
But who will play that wiseass in the movie?

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« Reply #28 on: July 14, 2010, 12:20:46 AM »
[youtube=560,345]cDGAoU1H2gM[/youtube]

Anybody know anything about this second leak? I'd heard there was too much leakage to be accounted for by the one that's making the news.

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« Reply #29 on: July 14, 2010, 05:27:37 PM »
This article is atop of the google spotlight article section.
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« Reply #30 on: July 14, 2010, 06:04:57 PM »
Is the original article just presuming the Gulf of Mexico was formed due to some massive natural gas explosion? I thought the true reason the gulf is as it is now is still a mystery.
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« Reply #31 on: July 14, 2010, 06:08:09 PM »
2012 seems a hell of a lot more likely.

Only if you're a distinguished mentally-challenged fellow.
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