Barack Obama - One Term or Two? ROCK THE VOTE

[huckleberry]

I really really want Gingrich to run...that pig fucker makes for great theater.  A Gingrich/Palin ticket would make my dick explode.

[Phoenix Dark]

Obama doesn't have a magic wand. He can't make Ben Nelson disappear or clone Al Franken 59 times. In order to get things done he has to compromise, deal, and cuddle with assholes.

My problem is with him caving on battles that could be won, and acting like the president holds no power outside of deciding what American citizen to assassinate overseas today. He didn't fight for the public option, he didn't fight for tougher financial regulation, etc; seems like the next thing is to not fight to nominate Elizabeth Warren to head the new consumer financial protection agency. As if he doesn't have the power to recess appoint her, or any of the tons of nominees who have been obstructed by the GOP for months.

[Mandark]

Obama could very well be a one-term president.  He'll be a more skilled politician than his opponent, and demographic trends will keep pushing the US more Democratic, slowly, but a terrible economy trumps all that.

Meanwhile, I'm about ready to become a Facebook fan of Obama now that all the libruls are reverting to emo navel-gazing and I can't be accused of chasing a fad.

[Brehvolution]

The battle isn't for the presidency. It's  for the senate.

My money is on the retardicans going white party only and relying on suspect data just like the invasion of Iraq.

[TripleA]

I won't vote for him. But with that said, I'll never vote for a fucking republican.

I'd sooner drink a bucket of warm shitspray than support the scum of USA.

[bachikarn]

It wasn't that he was black, it was like, he was going to pull another WE'RE GOING TO THE MOON out of his ass or something. Some kind of big, galvanizing idea to change our country and unite us all. But, yeah, that didn't happen.

In fact, he killed the return to the moon program  :'(

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I was working on Lunar Lander simulation diagnostic tools too when he did it  :'(

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Damn, is there actually another aerospace engineer on the Bore?

[Human Snorenado]

He's getting re-elected because his likely opponents are either

A) a Mormon used car salesman
B) an Arkansas Jesus Freak that used to eat fried squirrels
C) that crazy bitch from Alaska
D) that boring dude from Minnesota

and all of them are gonna have to go full distinguished mentally-challenged fellow to get their party's nomnomnom in 2012.  Seriously, Jimmy Carter could beat those fuckwits.  Plus, after the Teatards start actually trying to govern once they're elected to a majority in the House, America will be all uh, no thanks dudes.  Y'all fuckers are crazy.

[Smooth Groove]

Smart Palin aka Tina Fey is my choice for 2012. 

[Human Snorenado]

I will vote for whoever in whichever party runs on a platform of legalizing the hunting, killing, skinning and eating of the media.  Also, the same for the rich.

[Smooth Groove]

STFU My rich family did more for humanity than your poor ass ever will.

[Ichirou]

STFU My rich family did more for humanity than your poor ass ever will.

Dr. Huxtable

[Human Snorenado]

STFU My rich family did more for humanity than your poor ass ever will.

Wrong.  And you and your family will taste so delicious.  I think I'm going to slow roast you alive, and let you watch as I go apeshit on your computers.

[Ichirou]

STFU My rich family did more for humanity than your poor ass ever will.

Wrong.  And you and your family will taste so delicious.  I think I'm going to slow roast you alive, and let you watch as I go apeshit on your computers.

The GOP was right.  This is what happens when you let the unemployed stay on welfare - they start getting a sense of entitlement.

Why didn't McCain win?

[Olivia Wilde Homo]

It all depends on whether the economy works out or not.  If it is a double dip recession like some may think, his ass is grass.  It would almost be worth it for the Democrats for him to step aside and let Hillary try to run in 2012 if that is the case.

Either way, Obama shaped up to be a disappointing president.  When push comes to shove Obama is always a day late and a dollar short.  He just kind of waffles around and never really stands up for the majority of the Democrats - usually opting to take the DINO position that Ben Nelson or Joe Lieberman likes to take.  I think it is because he is looking out for himself to make him appear to be a post partisan leader when all it is really doing is creating further uncertainty in those crucial moments.  I don't feel the need to defend him if his plan is just kind of waffle around and this is Obama with a virtual supermajority.  I don't think he'll ever improve.

I think most of it is the economy.  It's still in the shitter and the self proclaimed "summer of recovery" isn't shaping up to be anything.

[Oblivion]

Do people seriously have faith in Hilldawg doing any better? Isn't she more center-right than Obama is?

[chronovore]

Your "Limp wrist, white flag waving, watered down poop passing" is what is keeping the country running without any major fucking issues. Where is the terrorism, financial collapse, and other nonsense that happened when George W. Fucking Monkey Bush's time as President brought? Do you actually need your government to bring excitement? How about just keeping the country in check for a few years?

There were no terrorist attacks during Bush's presidency

Next you'll be denying the holocaust.

Just in case you're being forgetful:
Bush 2: Waterboard Boogaloo 2000-2008
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/September_11_attacks
(check the date, sugartits)

I still remember the sense of hilarious irony when they joked about finding Saddam in a hole, years later. W's first announcement after 9/11 was given from an underground bunker -- a well-appointed hole.

[chronovore]

Obama is the half-assed President.

Half-assed health care reform. Half-assed financial regulation. Half-assed response to oil spill. Half-assed investigations into alleged racist comments by employees. etc.

Fucking nailed it.  That's my big problem with Obama.  He seems to have very little actual convictions.  He never stands his ground on ANYthing.

You are fucking stupid, Ichirou.
There is so much corruption, back-stabbing and back-slapping behind the scenes that it's a wonder that Obama has been able to do as much as he has done. It's not that Obama lacks conviction, it's just that there is so much internal opposition to some of his ideas.

There is no need for name-calling.

Obama is in many ways complicit in the corruption.  He hired people like Tim Geithner, who is a fairly big scumbag.

When is there a need for name-calling? You seem pretty good at it in other threads --- why is it inappropriate here?

I'm not trying to incite you, I just want to know if you're being internally consistent.

[cubicle47b]

I'm still voting for him but yeah, probably a one term president.

[Eric P]

Your "Limp wrist, white flag waving, watered down poop passing" is what is keeping the country running without any major fucking issues. Where is the terrorism, financial collapse, and other nonsense that happened when George W. Fucking Monkey Bush's time as President brought? Do you actually need your government to bring excitement? How about just keeping the country in check for a few years?

There were no terrorist attacks during Bush's presidency

Next you'll be denying the holocaust.

Just in case you're being forgetful:
Bush 2: Waterboard Boogaloo 2000-2008
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/September_11_attacks
(check the date, sugartits)

I still remember the sense of hilarious irony when they joked about finding Saddam in a hole, years later. W's first announcement after 9/11 was given from an underground bunker -- a well-appointed hole.

he was quoting a republican

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[Phoenix Dark]

ahaha

On the same note, a week ago I was at the social security office helping my brother get his card. We were with like 20 people in a waiting room, and CNN was on the tv. I forgot what story was on, but a guy behind us blirted out "doesn't Obama make you miss Bush?" and nearly everyone either said "no" or groaned audibly. 

Guess the W Bush History Revision Project isn't going too well for republicans 

[Brehvolution]

To be fair, GW was on vacation for his first 6 quarters.

[BlackMage]

ehh I voted for Obama.. he's not a strong president but I'm still 100% sure McCain would have been a disaster. I'm a registered Republican btw.

[tiesto]

It wasn't that he was black, it was like, he was going to pull another WE'RE GOING TO THE MOON out of his ass or something. Some kind of big, galvanizing idea to change our country and unite us all. But, yeah, that didn't happen.

In fact, he killed the return to the moon program  :'(

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I was working on Lunar Lander simulation diagnostic tools too when he did it  :'(

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Damn, is there actually another aerospace engineer on the Bore?

Software Engineer (bachelor's in CS, master's in Systems Engineering) who works at a major defense/aerospace company.

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if you are looking for a job and don't mind moving out to Long Island I will gladly take in your resume and refer you

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[brawndolicious]

he's not getting re-elected.

Wrong, there's no viable republicans stepping up.  Pandering to the Tea Party is going to scare away all the Independents.

What I hated about 2008 is that voters assumed too much.  I was okay with voting for Obama as a centrist who can make moderate improvements but unless you magically got rid of the Senate, any major policy change would never happen.

[chronovore]

Your "Limp wrist, white flag waving, watered down poop passing" is what is keeping the country running without any major fucking issues. Where is the terrorism, financial collapse, and other nonsense that happened when George W. Fucking Monkey Bush's time as President brought? Do you actually need your government to bring excitement? How about just keeping the country in check for a few years?

There were no terrorist attacks during Bush's presidency

Next you'll be denying the holocaust.

Just in case you're being forgetful:
Bush 2: Waterboard Boogaloo 2000-2008
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/September_11_attacks
(check the date, sugartits)

I still remember the sense of hilarious irony when they joked about finding Saddam in a hole, years later. W's first announcement after 9/11 was given from an underground bunker -- a well-appointed hole.

he was quoting a republican

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Ah. Interesting. Thanks for the clarification. You know what PD could have used that would have made that clear?

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Quotation marks.

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[Phoenix Dark]

I need quotation marks to say there were no terrorists attacks on Bush's watch? Sounds like someone flew a 747 into your sarcasm meter

[Cheebs]

I need quotation marks to say there were no terrorists attacks on Bush's watch? Sounds like someone flew a 747 into your sarcasm meter

People for some reason still think you are a secret conservative

[Phoenix Dark]

Well I did vote for Huckabee in the republican primary

[Beezy]

If Bush could get re-elected...

[Phoenix Dark]

interesting article on Romney v Palin
http://theamericanscene.com/2010/07/22/taking-palin-s-chances-seriously

[chronovore]

I need quotation marks to say there were no terrorists attacks on Bush's watch? Sounds like someone flew a 747 into your sarcasm meter

I live in Japan, a country which has doesn't support sarcasm, and whose sense of irony doesn't mesh well with western sensibilities.

Also, crazier shit has been posited in this forum.

[chronovore]

Yeah, I'm not Japanese, but I'm not sure why you're calling me an idiot. I've lived here 9 years. It has seriously impaired my ability to parse sarcasm; I'm not even looking for sarcasm most of the time.

Anyway, I'll stick to my original statement: quotations need quotes.

[Ichirou]

This is Green Shinobi-levels of trying to justify yourself.  Give it up, dude.

[bagofeyes]

I've lived here 9 years. It has seriously impaired my ability to parse sarcasm.

Time to leave, brah

[Beardo]

what's the unemployment rate at in america now?

10% is the official number, I believe.

It can't be 10% because Obama said that wouldn't happen if we passed the stimulus bill. And why would he lie.

[Solo]

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[Ichirou]

what's the unemployment rate at in america now?

10% is the official number, I believe.

It can't be 10% because Obama said that wouldn't happen if we passed the stimulus bill. And why would he lie.

The real number is probably higher than 10%, honestly.

[Beardo]

what's the unemployment rate at in america now?

10% is the official number, I believe.

It can't be 10% because Obama said that wouldn't happen if we passed the stimulus bill. And why would he lie.

The real number is probably higher than 10%, honestly.

Lies!! All that stimulus went straight to hard working middle class america who then used it to rebuild industry in heavily hurt areas.

[Olivia Wilde Homo]

what's the unemployment rate at in america now?

10% is the official number, I believe.

It can't be 10% because Obama said that wouldn't happen if we passed the stimulus bill. And why would he lie.

The real number is probably higher than 10%, honestly.

The real number is around 17%

Great Depression 2 total.  People are just too scared to call it that.

[Oblivion]

what's the unemployment rate at in america now?

10% is the official number, I believe.

It can't be 10% because Obama said that wouldn't happen if we passed the stimulus bill. And why would he lie.

The real number is probably higher than 10%, honestly.

Lies!! All that stimulus went straight to hard working middle class america who then used it to rebuild industry in heavily hurt areas.

Obama still created more jobs in less than a year than Bush did in 8, so...

[drew]

Yes, if Sarah palin gets elected I'm leaving the country, and no not to Afghanistan

In before a joke about me leaving the country being a reason to vote for someone

[Beardo]

Obama still created more jobs in less than a year than Bush did in 8, so...

Well shit now that you mention it the economy must be rocking pretty hard then.

[brawndolicious]

In 2008, I voted for Obama because he was the most viable democratic nominee (my first choice was Biden) and 2010 looks the same, since "conservatives" have just gotten crazier since 2008.

My problems with politics is really just with the Senate though.  I mean, maybe you could say that Obama wasn't what you expected but with the Senate the way it is, who cares?  It's not like a white guy with a long, connected political history and no real skeletons in his closet (like Biden!) would've totally turned the country around.

[Phoenix Dark]

If there was majority rule in the senate, we'd all be praising Obama as the greatest president ever.

[drew]

would all of you republicunts vote for obama's opponent even if it was palin?

[chronovore]

I've lived here 9 years. It has seriously impaired my ability to parse sarcasm.

Time to leave, brah

Working on it. Probably two more years. Maybe one.