World of Warcraft: Cataclysm thread of real gamers

[ManaByte]

Yea noticed a couple of those last month. Sucks not knowing who it was.

Just signed off after a quest marathon. I really didn't like Vashj'ir during the beta, but I'm having some fun there now. The music is amazing and having the underwater mount makes things so much faster. Really like the new quest system. Kill a random mob? Oh look, a quest pop up. Finish the quest? Complete it without having to travel to a quest giver. Me likey

Halfway to lv81. Gonna watch some SC2 GSL matches, then head back on WoW and get to 82. Most likely by doing Blackrock Caverns

I'm leveling my Mage in Vashj'ir, my Druid will level in Hijal, and my Warlock will probably do Vash.

[Raban]

Goblins

[ManaByte]

[Phoenix Dark]

Can't wait to get home. Gonna start Hijal. I'll finish a few more Vash quests first

[Himu]

i wanna jump back into WoW

[Raban]

Then do it, slut.

[ManaByte]

Goblins are the greatest thing. Ever.

[Raban]

I can't decide on a class/race combination.

[tehjaybo]

I just got out of the 55-59 pvp bracket, and I cannot express my current hatred for worgen DKs.  Holy fucking shit.

That aside, I did a little MC and AQ40 with my friend pre-60, and got four or five pieces of gear, then picked up a HWL 2H axe with the honor I got yesterday.  Holy SHIT I hit hard now.  I went ahead and made a little pvp macro. 

/cast Divine Storm
/train

[tehjaybo]

Also, easiest way to not get ganked: female character with female name.  A hunter two levels higher than me started to attack me, I three shot his pet and he left me alone. 



I sexy.

[Raban]

[FatalT]

WTF you're 62 now? I'm only 61. I need to get back to poopsockin.

[Phoenix Dark]

tehjaybo had some alliance nerd messaging me so I could tell tehjaybo what he had to say. "tell her i said sure i'll help <3"

had him by the balls 

[fistfulofmetal]

worgens are awesome

[etiolate]

Wait jaybo is in Hellfire area? On RH?

How did you level so fast?

I may have to come gank you

[Dickie Dee]

I'm without a real guild, is there any kind of server/faction that boreans cling to?

I've never minded being an amblin' man, but getting with folks you know, even virtually might help.

(I just came back from ~8 months and my guild is not disbanded but seems non-existant)

[ManaByte]

http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/1406223891

[Phoenix Dark]

 

I need to start marking mobs for cc in Tides. So many damn casters; not hard on normal but I need to start practicing for heroics. I'm almost lv83.

Really like the early blacksmith stuff. I sold my first two stacks of obsidian ore and had the third stack prospected lol; made good money and got gems but I definitely want to lv bs now. Pretty surpring that I haven't run into heavy farmers yet. When LK came out people were farming cobalt and saronite like crazy

[etiolate]

http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/1406223891

People can't adjust back. I am not sure if they are right or wrong though. I *gasp* have been playing a troll druid and tanking the revamped early dungeons. I take a lot more damage and can't just easy mode threat. Healers are use to pw: shielding the tank and falling asleep. One healer complained about it and asked if I wasn't wearing any gear. I told him shit changed and you have to really heal now. So he quit.

The thing is, I never had a problem with dungeons being quicker and easier. I am not a fan of having to stop and dole out CC. They don't add any enjoyment, but they do add time consumption and a false sense of challenge, which I think is the only language slothish MMOers understand. The Gearscore mentality overtaking everything diminishes any sense of "skill" or challenge the game tries to present. So, on one hand the people who can't adjust to having to pay attention in a dungeon annoy me, but on the other hand, the changes really are a step backwards.

[Phoenix Dark]

Spent nearly two hours in Stonecore tonight. First WoW dungeon experience I've had since BC that I actually felt was challenging and painful. Part of it had to do with having a group of people new to the instance, including myself. I made sure to read up on all the bosses before the fight, and honestly none of them gave us major problems (but I can see how they'll  be tough in heroic). The trash is what delayed us. The aoe dmg is so ridiculous a healer really has to be on his toes.

I tried setting up CC rotations but the dps got restless and eventually started pulling before me. One of the things I really hate about the warrior changes is the removal of Bloodthirst, which generated rage over time; it's been replaced by our health/dps shouts generating a set amount of rage that disappears so fucking fast. So when a pull goes poorly I find myself running around with no rage, not getting hit as I peel a mob off the dumbass hunter who forgot how to use ice traps. I'm sure the place would be much easier with a better group, or one with at least a couple people who had done it before. Despite the annoying length, I plan on going back asap.

Can't say I'm happy long, sprawling dungeons have completely replaced the WoTLK mixture of semi-long and short ones. I like a good long dungeon every now and then, but from the looks of it every Cata dungeon is that way.

[ManaByte]

Blackrock isn't that long really.

[fistfulofmetal]

the archeology stuff is awesome

[Van Cruncheon]

where the fuck do 80 horde go to start cataclysm quest chains

edit: nevermind, i am clearly lazy

[Phoenix Dark]

Vortex Pinnacle is beautiful holy shit. Also, Uldum is easily the best designed area of the game's history. It looks fabulous.

Anyway back to VP...it starts off quite easy, and going in knowing there are only three bosses it's easy to assume the instance will be a breeze. While the overall difficulty is quite easy, the "stuff dumb people fall for" difficulty level gets pretty high as you get further in. WoTLK has some instances where some mobs heal the others, but ultimately you can nuke any mob out of order and clear trash with ease. That's impossible here: the healing adds actually fucking heal. I did the instance twice today, and both groups failed at the basic "kill the add marked with skull first" rule. The mobs also need to be los'd, so even after telling everyone don't dps or heal until they're positioned, there's always that dps who starts nuking shit the minute you pull, screwing up the los and messing up threat.

That being said, the place is a breeze. I've been unable to get just about any group to stick to a CC rotation. Not that many mob groups need it, I just wanted to test things out in preparation for heroics. I have a feeling there are going to be some very, very lazy people reaching 85 and struggling big time.

[Van Cruncheon]

let's not forget that this patch/expansion totally fucked up the way some classes are played, and folks are having an adjustment period.

thankfully, shadow priest is still pretty brainless -- heck, it's mage-level brainless, now, at least when it comes to rotations. on the other hand, i have no idea how to respec my pally, prot-wise. yuck.

[Phoenix Dark]

The main patch was out more than a month before Cata dropped, giving many people a good amount of time to get re-adjusted. But to be fair, lots of people re-subbed when the expansion came out, so they haven't had the same amount of  time to re-adjust.

When I first played the beta I honestly thought Blizzard ruined prot warriors. I'm still not 100% happy about all the changes, but I'm having more fun with tanking being more challenging now.

[OptimoPeach]

on the other hand, i have no idea how to respec my pally, prot-wise. yuck.

This might help: http://elitistjerks.com/f76/t110338-cataclysm_tanking_protection_field_manual_updated_dec_10_2010_4_0_3a/#Talent_Specs

Not a paladin but that site is like no-lifer central for this game. They tend to always be on top of everything related to PvE

[etiolate]

There is tiny adjustments to be made. Cata didn't "totally change everything" as much as slightly alter some stuff. My Ele Shaman rotation has one minor addition and some proc watches, my Pally prot setup is a lot alike. Same opener and such, just use one skill for single target and one for multi target. Destro lock is the same rotation with a proc. There is very little adjustment, but more e-peen bruises from people who took pride in how easy things were thinking that was because of their awesomeness.

Are the dungeons really long again? And full of trash?

[tehjaybo]

I should have checked this thread earlier, my bad.  And yeah, I actually just dinged 70, made me think about this thread.  You know, everyone asks how I level so fast, and I honestly don't know. 

Could be that my /played is 5 days, 4 hours, and i started on Black Friday.  Who's to know?

[Phoenix Dark]

There is tiny adjustments to be made. Cata didn't "totally change everything" as much as slightly alter some stuff. My Ele Shaman rotation has one minor addition and some proc watches, my Pally prot setup is a lot alike. Same opener and such, just use one skill for single target and one for multi target. Destro lock is the same rotation with a proc. There is very little adjustment, but more e-peen bruises from people who took pride in how easy things were thinking that was because of their awesomeness.

Are the dungeons really long again? And full of trash?

Long, lots of trash. Blackrock Caverns has like 5 bosses. Vortex Pinnacle is long enough to make running back after a wipe a total pain; to make matters worse, you can't simply /follow and go afk because you have to jump into whirlwinds to get to various levels.

Lots of casters so the aoe dmg can be significant. That's where CC will become a must in heroics. Reminds me of the Auchindoun instances in BC, like Slabs, in terms of mob composition and instance length. The bosses aren't hard, but nearly every one has some type of unforgiving ability that will kill you if you don't pay attention.

[tehjaybo]

Looks like my friends and I are actually moving to Winterhoof Alliance.  We're looking to start a leveling (for now) and raiding (when we hit 85) guild.  We have a core of about 5 right now I think, but when we actually get the levels, I think we're gonna get some more people in.  If anyone is just starting out, I'd suggest coming over and leveling there.  It would be nice to have people around that we could invite to the guild that I know aren't douchebags or idiots. 

[ManaByte]

All of the people who rolled a Mage at the start of Lich King and have them at 80 now don't know what polymorph is and they don't even have it hotkeyed

[Dickie Dee]

Holy shit Throne of the Tides is hard compared to Blackrock Caverns - were they even meant to be comparable?

Also kinda wish I started out in vashjir instead of Hyjal, just seems alot cooler. I just got far enough in vash last night to get the mount and discover TOFT

[tehjaybo]

All of the people who rolled a Mage at the start of Lich King and have them at 80 now don't know what polymorph is and they don't even have it hotkeyed

 

Every time I play a mage, Poly goes straight into 2. 

Depending on spec:

Cone of Cold | Poly | Frostbolt | Ice Lance | Frost Nova
Dragons Breath | Poly | Fireball | Scorch | Frost Nova

[fistfulofmetal]

http://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/aggramar/varangian/advanced

My character. Will be the one I use when i finally dive into Cata stuff

[tehjaybo]

Oh wow, that's kinda cool.

Changed the stuff to me: http://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/ravenholdt/kristena/advanced

I like the new armory.  Pretty awesome that it'll tell you about enchants and do some of the Theorycrafting for you.

[Phoenix Dark]

All of the people who rolled a Mage at the start of Lich King and have them at 80 now don't know what polymorph is and they don't even have it hotkeyed

Last night I tried getting some practice in on CC, but nearly every group fucked it up. Luckily I had a very good mage in VP who was using poly correctly for some very nice pulls. But when I tried getting people to do that in Stonecore and Tides they fucked it up. The pulls before Stonecore's first boss feature a shit ton of magic damage no matter how good the tank is; you can have 100% threat on everyone, but that earthen thing is going to hit everyone with aoe and Millhouse is going to randomly bash people with lightning. I asked for a simple poly on one of the mobs, and the mage literally polymorhed it then started nuking ALL the adds with aoe 

[ManaByte]

In VP you need to poly one of the adepts and outside the grounding pyramid. Most people don't know that and just try to WOLK AOE kill everything.

[Phoenix Dark]

Exactly. Especially during the fight where there are two Adepts.

I might run heroics with my guild only. Based on what I've seen in normal modes, I can't trust dps. The instances are long as fuck, so taking 30 sec to plan strategy won't be tolerated by the ADHD crowd.

[tehjaybo]

Wait, is WOTLK why people aoe for dps?  There was some warlock that kept running into the mobs and using Hellfire, I thought he was just a distinguished mentally-challenged fellow.  That was actually VIABLE?  This game has gone to the fucking dogs.  Time to re-teach idiots how to play.

[etiolate]

Most every trash mob in wotlk was an aoe fest. Even when people stepped into the first raid(Naxx) it was aoe everything. They also gave the tanks more aoe threat to go with it. Now its back to CC, as though people were happy with the trash in Tempest Keep.

http://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/ravenholdt/kateground/advanced

The ever rare Ele Shaman.

[MyNameIsMethodis]

I feel bad for you plebians who arent in a real guild.

[Phoenix Dark]

Naxx trash was extremely boring. Oh look, a bunch of spiders. Plus back then as a warrior tank it kinda sucked watching a prot pally faceroll and keep every add on him lol.

[Phoenix Dark]

Uldum is an amazing zone. Beautiful, and a great quest line. Many are kill x,y,z but the story (lol) is interesting enough to keep you going. The rep rewards are pretty shitty for tanks/plate dps, but I kept trucking through the zone simply due to how well done it is.

Also had a blast with the Stormwind chain that ultimately results in you saving a certain secret agent 

Lost City of the Tol'vir:

Sprawling outside dungeon that really reminded me of Zul'Farrak. Luckily the group had featuring someone who had done it before or I would have been lost as hell killing mobs that didn't need to be engaged. Trash wasn't hard, and there's more than enough stuff - pillars, fountains, stairs, etc - to use for los in heroic mode. Only used los a couple times to be extra careful around pats.

One thing that took me off guard: the trash have very, very large aggro radius. I'd imagine a mage trying to poly stuff would aggro everything the second he slightly entered their los.

Bosses weren't hard, and the last boss is pretty fun. I'd say in terms of difficulty

Stonecore>Tides>Vortex Pinnacle>Lost City of the Tol'vir>Blackrock Cavern

Tides isn't hard, there's just so much aoe damage and the last boss could fuck you if the group doesn't have their cameras panned out.

[etiolate]

You hit 84?

While playing low level hordies, I realized that the recent changes made prot pallies king of early BGs. So I made a Tauren Pally. Its basically world of glory to keep yourself alive as vengeance starts to pile up and Avengers shield hits pretty hard at that level.

Still unsure if I should play Cata or not. Not sure if playing a Shaman is going to be worth it.

[ManaByte]

I feel bad for you plebians who arent in a real guild.

God you're stupid.

[Phoenix Dark]

You hit 84?

While playing low level hordies, I realized that the recent changes made prot pallies king of early BGs. So I made a Tauren Pally. Its basically world of glory to keep yourself alive as vengeance starts to pile up and Avengers shield hits pretty hard at that level.

Still unsure if I should play Cata or not. Not sure if playing a Shaman is going to be worth it.

Yup despite finals and work lol. It's ridiculous how quickly people have sped to 85. imo I've been going at a nice pace, doing as many quests in a zone before jumping to another, and I haven't been spamming dungeons. Got half way to 85 last night in Uldum and the one dungeon run.

[ManaByte]

I'm a couple bubbles from 84.

My guild took down the Whale Shark the other night, but I missed out on it.

[tehjaybo]

You hit 84?

While playing low level hordies, I realized that the recent changes made prot pallies king of early BGs. So I made a Tauren Pally. Its basically world of glory to keep yourself alive as vengeance starts to pile up and Avengers shield hits pretty hard at that level.

Still unsure if I should play Cata or not. Not sure if playing a Shaman is going to be worth it.

Yup despite finals and work lol. It's ridiculous how quickly people have sped to 85. imo I've been going at a nice pace, doing as many quests in a zone before jumping to another, and I haven't been spamming dungeons. Got half way to 85 last night in Uldum and the one dungeon run.

Had a friend xfer to Ravenholdt with top of the top 80 gear, and level to 85.  He transferred back a week ago, and he had been 85 for a day or two.  lol  I hope that I level that fast at that level.  Otherwise I'm gonna be a saad panda. 

I'm almost 73 now, still collecting my raptor teeth so I can transfer.  I really hope to hit 85 before moving though.  Then I can come look for some peedee/etiolate luvv.   

[Phoenix Dark]

Had some drama resurface over the last few days. I've made many posts about my old guild and former guild leader, a supreme asshole who turned out to be a 17yo kid. Basically he took a long break, left the game and abandoned his guild. Before that many people were leaving due to being tired of his shit. Now he's back for Cata and a couple folks asked if they could rejoin his guild, and he blew them off with a "I have my own crew now, no." So people are arguing over the details of what happened, and I find myself drawing a blank. And I've realized: I remember the good times of having fun with friends in WoW (from a previous guild) far more than I remember the drama that used to be so important in other guilds.

I remember wiping on Thaddius at 3AM, and still having fun. I remember our holy pally bubbling and killing Heigan by himself with a couple hits after the rest of the raid died. I remember a friend falling asleep in the middle of a Nexus heroic run, with everyone laughing as we heard him snoring on ventrillo lmao. etc

I remember some basic things about drama, but I've forgotten the details. No point in focusing on that shit.

[tehjaybo]

See, it's stuff like that which make me want to raid, but with a guild of friends instead of some "omg we're so pro" raiding guild.  Been there, done that.  I want a relaxed environment, but one that we can still get shit done in. 

Example of my old raid leaders:
[youtube=560,345][/youtube]
The guy talking is a total dick.

We were on Vael, wiping, and he started yelling at the priests about healing, and actually yelled so long that he made one of them quit the guild.  It was ridiculous. 

I refuse to do that shit again.

[Phoenix Dark]

Agreed. Obviously sometimes someone is screwing everything up and needs to be addressed, but I've never got the impression yelling at people works. If you have to replace someone do it.

Dunno how I feel about my current guild. It has about 6-8 people I really like and have played with for years, but I don't really know anyone else. Some friends brought the idea of creating our own guild. I like the idea but it seems like those types of guilds rarely succeed, at least if you're planning on raiding; these guys are all pretty good though. We'll see, if it's put together well I'll jump on board.

[ManaByte]

Had some drama resurface over the last few days. I've made many posts about my old guild and former guild leader, a supreme asshole who turned out to be a 17yo kid. Basically he took a long break, left the game and abandoned his guild. Before that many people were leaving due to being tired of his shit. Now he's back for Cata and a couple folks asked if they could rejoin his guild, and he blew them off with a "I have my own crew now, no." So people are arguing over the details of what happened, and I find myself drawing a blank. And I've realized: I remember the good times of having fun with friends in WoW (from a previous guild) far more than I remember the drama that used to be so important in other guilds.

I remember wiping on Thaddius at 3AM, and still having fun. I remember our holy pally bubbling and killing Heigan by himself with a couple hits after the rest of the raid died. I remember a friend falling asleep in the middle of a Nexus heroic run, with everyone laughing as we heard him snoring on ventrillo lmao. etc

I remember some basic things about drama, but I've forgotten the details. No point in focusing on that shit.

Yea. I remember my Mage's Water Elemental killing Heroic Murmor while the entire group was lying there dead.

[ManaByte]

Grim Batol is so awesome.

[etiolate]

Might be rerolling on Thunderlord or xfering there. I got a shitty gift from the CE's card pack. Pet biscuits smh.

[tehjaybo]

Yeah, mine was the Spectral "tiger" or whatever, that stupid sandbox tiger.  Blah.

[ManaByte]

Wait. What? You got a Spectral Tiger?

[tehjaybo]

No, god no.  I WISH.  I had a friend that got one.

http://www.wowhead.com/item=45047 x50

Creates a "Spectral Tiger" vehicle that can be riden by either faction.

[etiolate]

I was in Deepholm and some orc shaman jumped me, which lead to a nice bit of pvp. I killed the Shaman many times, a DK and shadow priest. The shaman ended up grouping with the spriest and boomkin to get me off him. I wasn't really camping him. I'd kill him and move on, and he'd try to jump me. I guess my gear was better because I was nooking him something fierce. My favorite was when he got off a hex on me and ran away. So I chased him in frog form across the zone, hopping at his feet until the hex wore off and thunderstormed him dead.

[Phoenix Dark]

Is that your way of saying "i was wrong about cata it's pretty good, forgive me gaming gods!"?