Author Topic: World of Warcraft: Cataclysm thread of real gamers (Read 17865 times)

etiolate · « **Reply #180 on:** December 17, 2010, 11:07:36 PM »

Nope.

That was me saying I cracked some ass. Vash and Uldum are nice. I don't really like Deepholm or its look, as it reminds me of the final zones of BC like Netherstorm. Haven't touched Hyjal. I've done Tides, Blackrock, and Vortex dungeons.

tehjaybo · « **Reply #181 on:** December 18, 2010, 02:36:09 AM »

Update on my precious. 6/20 raptor teeth, so 14 more days till transfer.

tehjaybo · « **Reply #182 on:** December 18, 2010, 03:40:19 AM »

Wait, you CAN get the Winterspring Frostsaber still? I thought you couldn't anymore.

Fuck the raptor teeth. BYE RAVENHOLDT.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #183 on:** December 18, 2010, 02:37:49 PM »

Quote from: etiolate on December 17, 2010, 11:07:36 PM

Nope.

That was me saying I cracked some ass. Vash and Uldum are nice. I don't really like Deepholm or its look, as it reminds me of the final zones of BC like Netherstorm. Haven't touched Hyjal. I've done Tides, Blackrock, and Vortex dungeons.

Vash is alright. It's nigh impossible to make a good underwater level/dungeon/etc

I really like Hyjal, Uldum is amazing and I like Deepholm. It reminds me of the rocky BC zones, but the quest line is strong and it's a paradise for miners.

etiolate · « **Reply #184 on:** December 18, 2010, 06:20:18 PM »

Yeah, there are lots of mining nodes. Kate has no gathering professions, so I have to gather on my alts later on. I hit 84, so I am going to move on to Uldum.

What is annoying me right now is that nearly every time I queue for a random BG, I get Isle of COnquest. That BG has been bugged or broken the entire month, and I keep getting it. Post patch it had bugged doors on the Horde fortress. Now the pre-85 version is tuned to 85s in heroic or epics. The boss does like a 70k cleave and destroys most tanks at that level. So not only is it near impossible to win, it takes forever to win due to running out of enforcements. Plus, no matter how many times you tell people to ignore the boss, they run in and get wiped.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #185 on:** December 19, 2010, 01:10:30 AM »

The Harrison Jones questline in Uldum is amazing

I really liked his questline in Northrend too, but this takes things to another level.

ManaByte · « **Reply #186 on:** December 19, 2010, 01:35:53 AM »

Saving that until I hit 85, which will be tomorrow. Just 2 bubbles to go. Guild will be level 6 as well.

ManaByte · « **Reply #187 on:** December 19, 2010, 09:55:45 AM »

Just hit 85 and bought Master Riding.

tehjaybo · « **Reply #188 on:** December 21, 2010, 10:10:15 PM »

So close to 80 I can taste it.

BlackMage · « **Reply #189 on:** December 23, 2010, 09:30:56 AM »

jesus christ, jaybo. turn up the graphics

ManaByte · « **Reply #190 on:** December 23, 2010, 10:13:18 AM »

Kentucky doesn't have computers capable of running WoW.

MyNameIsMethodis · « **Reply #191 on:** December 23, 2010, 10:23:18 AM »

I forgot how slutty human females look. Especially dem titties

tehjaybo · « **Reply #192 on:** December 23, 2010, 11:26:00 AM »

I haven't upgraded my video card since I've been playing PC games. I've gone through four PCs since then. That card is from like, 2001. $:-\$

And at the moment, I don't have the cash to throw at video cards. Though, if you'd like to suggest some nice cheap ones...

(Also, I play on my 42" TV via VGA, if that means anything to you.)

Quote from: ManaByte on December 23, 2010, 10:13:18 AM

Kentucky doesn't have computers capable of running WoW.

I'm running windows 7 with 8gb of ram and a decent processor, it's all video card. $:-\$ $:-\$ $:-\$

demi · « **Reply #193 on:** December 23, 2010, 11:33:52 AM »

Get me some noodz of andrewfields and I will buy you a card.

tehjaybo · « **Reply #194 on:** December 23, 2010, 11:41:40 AM »

As tempting as that is, I can't break bro-code.

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But I do have them.

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Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #195 on:** December 24, 2010, 04:13:10 PM »

Damn I haven't played much all week, feeling behind now lol. I just need one more item before I can do heroics. Should be interesting.

Guessing the guild isn't doing any of the new raids until January, so I have time

tehjaybo · « **Reply #196 on:** December 25, 2010, 01:26:38 PM »

Yeah, I finally hit 80 last night, and played until I was two bars from 81. I was kind of surprised how fast that went. I hear the rest are gonna suck though.

ManaByte · « **Reply #197 on:** December 25, 2010, 02:08:12 PM »

84 is like an old EQ hell level.

Dickie Dee · « **Reply #198 on:** December 25, 2010, 02:20:00 PM »

Not minding too much, I'm 84 and guessing 1/4ish through Uldam - I'll probably naturally hit 85 just questing in the last zone (name is escaping me), I'm in no rush.

MyNameIsMethodis · « **Reply #199 on:** December 25, 2010, 02:25:15 PM »

I thought 84-85 went by quick, I did it in about ~8 hours.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #200 on:** December 26, 2010, 12:00:32 AM »

84 isn't bad. It really depends on how you want to proceed: you can quickly level by doing random dungeons, or chain quest in a good area like Uldum, or mix it up a bit. I basically stayed in Uldum and did just about everything I could.

etiolate · « **Reply #201 on:** December 26, 2010, 05:41:41 AM »

I got to 85 pretty quickly. I still had stonecore quests, and all of Hyjal and Twilight untouched at 85. Uldum did the trick for me. Dungeons and dungeon quests help as well. Theres like three Qs in Lost City.

I dropped Elemental spec. I may go back, but its shitty and has been shitty for years. It was bottom of the barrel on DPS charts all of Wrath and all they added was fulmination. I thought Ele would be good in BGs now that they are rated, but Ele has less defensive tools now and less burst. I am not sure what the point of them is in PVP. Fulmination was supposed to be the new burst, but its impossible to set up in PVP. Now that Astral Shift is gone, I still die in a single silence.

Dickie Dee · « **Reply #202 on:** December 26, 2010, 09:33:52 AM »

The Horde questline that takes you to Twilight Highlands

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #203 on:** December 26, 2010, 11:44:53 PM »

Halls of Origination feels so much like a raid. Seven bosses, some tough trash, a mini gauntlet area, a giant elevator, Brann telling you what to do, etc. Should be very challenging on heroic

ManaByte · « **Reply #204 on:** December 29, 2010, 11:00:06 AM »

It's not possible to PUG a heroic now. People quit because it's TOO HARD. Healers bail in the middle of boss fights and distinguished mentally-challenged tanks quit after one death because there wasn't enough "AOE DPS". I've had tanks bragging about AOEing Heroic ICC and saying if he could do it there you can do it here. Motherfucking dumbasses.

Dickie Dee · « **Reply #205 on:** December 29, 2010, 04:18:40 PM »

I basically didn't heroic/raid pre-WotLK, but even I know the bare basic idea of CC - I have no idea how people are playing the game and it's such a foreign concept to them. Not just bad at it, but completely ignorant.

ManaByte · « **Reply #206 on:** December 30, 2010, 10:53:35 AM »

I just had a tank ask me to sheep one of the mobs he marked. He said "start", I sheeped it and he just stood there while I was killed. He didn't know sheeping a mob made them aggro the caster.

tehjaybo · « **Reply #207 on:** December 30, 2010, 02:26:10 PM »

Level 84 and I'm apping to one of the top raiding guilds on the server for a community slot. I figure get in early as community, get to know them, and then apply as a raider. All my friends are level 20ish anyway, I can play alts with them and be set.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #208 on:** January 01, 2011, 03:07:19 AM »

Completed my first heroic today: Vortex Pinnacle. Despite not having the best group composition we got through it without too many problems. Biggest challenge was the last boss. In heroic mode he has a static charge cast that snares you; if you can't get out of it before he does his massive aoe, you're fucked. Group consisted of a DK, warlock, hunter, me, and a resto druid. I didn't have any problems because Intervene breaks snares/stuns/etc, but everyone except the hunter struggled. Druid didn't want to use mana dispelling people because the group damage was so high. Eventually we looked up the fight and realized shapeshift breaks the snare, and if you jump right before Asaad finishes the cast you avoid it.

Can't wait until tomorrow so I can try to get the achievement for not getting snared lol

cubicle47b · « **Reply #209 on:** January 03, 2011, 10:44:34 AM »

That fight has very little damage if people spread out and you only have to cleanse the 2nd static charge.

We're on Chimaeron in my 2 night a week raiding guild (7/12). We probably could have killed it last night but didn't understand the mechanics well enough and came up with a bad strategy.

Disposable White Guy · « **Reply #210 on:** January 04, 2011, 10:35:48 PM »

So I'm actually having fun again. Opting between arena and rated BGs is a nice change. Raids aren't anything special butsome of the heroics are brutally fun.

Tol Barad

Don Flamenco · « **Reply #211 on:** January 04, 2011, 11:54:04 PM »

how do the expansions for this game work? didn't cataclysm convert the entire world or something like that? Just curious if it's all new stuff + everything from before or if you have to play through earlier expansions to get to the new content?

if you treated this like a single player RPG, how long does it take to just play through the main quests?

cubicle47b · « **Reply #212 on:** January 05, 2011, 10:18:30 AM »

It's a little complicated. The old world is almost completely overhauled and by buying only the base game you'll be playing this overhauled content. Certain things will be locked out, though. You won't be able to create certain classes or races, certain areas will be locked out (the starting areas for the races you can't play), your level cap will be 60 instead of 85, certain professions, etc. There's not really a central questline. Leveling to 85 takes about 3 1/2 days if you burn through everything (84 hours). If you actually read quest text, mess around with professions, PVP, etc it will take *considerably* longer.

Disposable White Guy · « **Reply #213 on:** January 05, 2011, 10:19:49 AM »

Technically you can just buy the original World of Warcraft and play from 1-60 with most (maybe all) of the Cataclysm quests, but certain combinations of race/class, dungeons, and PVP content will be unavailable. Ideally, you want all 3 expansions so you can get to 85 and be "caught up" with the storyline - if you could even call it that - and be able to access everything in the game. Also note that you'd probably be patching all 3 expansions which is more than a few gigs worth of data to download and install.

As for leveling, it took me about a month of casual gaming to get to 80 before they implemented the Cataclysm quests. With all the new content it would probably be about the same or less when flying solo. However, it's even faster when you're in a guild that's actually progressed because you get a flat 10% experience bonus fairly quickly.

Don Flamenco · « **Reply #214 on:** January 05, 2011, 10:20:24 AM »

Is it mostly solo-able from start to finish?

Disposable White Guy · « **Reply #215 on:** January 05, 2011, 10:38:27 AM »

Yup. If you find yourself dying constantly, then just read a little bit about the class you're playing either on the official forums, MMO Champion, or Elitest Jerks. They all have resources on what your stat values are, spell/ability priorities etc. The only things you can't really solo are dungeon quests as you get them.

Dickie Dee · « **Reply #216 on:** January 05, 2011, 04:04:00 PM »

There's really no reason not to start off with just the "new vanilla" and try a go at 1-60 and see. You really will miss out on very little - some options are restricted but you are by no means gimped. The few things denied to you in that range will be things that you won't even notice and might only care once you're invested in the game and want to lvl another character. (you can't pick some races - you won't even care until you're well invested into the game, 1 class that needs another lvl80 character to unlock, a profession you wouldn't be able to afford without starting fresh anyways...) Of course post-60 comes with all the normal added content level cap expansion stuff, but by then you can make your own choice, but know you weren't really hindered getting there.

If they still had the $5 Vanilla $5 BC $10 WotLK deal going I'd probably hop on that though.

Howard Alan Treesong · « **Reply #217 on:** January 05, 2011, 04:39:55 PM »

Quote from: Disposable White Guy on January 05, 2011, 10:19:49 AM

Technically you can just buy the original World of Warcraft and play from 1-60 with most (maybe all) of the Cataclysm quests, but certain combinations of race/class, dungeons, and PVP content will be unavailable. Ideally, you want all 3 expansions so you can get to 85 and be "caught up" with the storyline - if you could even call it that - and be able to access everything in the game. Also note that you'd probably be patching all 3 expansions which is more than a few gigs worth of data to download and install.

Not true, Cataclysm introduced the streaming retail WoW client.

etiolate · « **Reply #218 on:** January 05, 2011, 05:59:44 PM »

Quote from: Disposable White Guy on January 05, 2011, 10:38:27 AM

Yup. If you find yourself dying constantly, then just read a little bit about the class you're playing either on the official forums, MMO Champion, or Elitest Jerks. They all have resources on what your stat values are, spell/ability priorities etc. The only things you can't really solo are dungeon quests as you get them.

For the love of God, do not read the official forums. Worse than GAF. Use MMo champ and maybe EJ, but EJ has less on how to play a class and more on how to optimize at the end. I'll tell you how to play if you want. I think i' have played every class to at least 60.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #219 on:** January 05, 2011, 06:40:11 PM »

Spent about 3 hours in heroic Throne of Tides today. The heroics might be too hard to do with pugs, dunno. All I know is that 7 out of ever 10 hunter I come across doesn't know how to use ice traps, Shamans don't realize you shouldn't hex before letting the rogue sap someone, and DKs are just dumb. The only reliable class seems to be mages. I fist bump whenever I get one in my groups.

Trash isn't a problem, but getting people to work together on a boss is often impossible. The first boss in Tides is a god damn nightmare. Not because she's hard, but because you need crowd control and people paying attention to multiple things at the same time. People don't listen, they break CC etc

fuck it i'm going outside

ManaByte · « **Reply #220 on:** January 05, 2011, 06:57:54 PM »

I can't remember how many groups I had to leave after the DK thought he could tank in Unholy or Frost.

etiolate · « **Reply #221 on:** January 05, 2011, 11:17:05 PM »

Quote from: Phoenix Dark on January 05, 2011, 06:40:11 PM

Spent about 3 hours in heroic Throne of Tides today. The heroics might be too hard to do with pugs, dunno. All I know is that 7 out of ever 10 hunter I come across doesn't know how to use ice traps, Shamans don't realize you shouldn't hex before letting the rogue sap someone, and DKs are just dumb. The only reliable class seems to be mages. I fist bump whenever I get one in my groups.

Trash isn't a problem, but getting people to work together on a boss is often impossible. The first boss in Tides is a god damn nightmare. Not because she's hard, but because you need crowd control and people paying attention to multiple things at the same time. People don't listen, they break CC etc

fuck it i'm going outside

Pfft. I've pulled off a double CC of hex and bind Elemental on pulls. Dumb pugs shamans.

Of course, I gave up trying to get a heroic queue as DPS a week ago. I got about four queues, about one per hour and the group dropped as soon as anyone died.

I wish they would let people Q for BGs and dungeons at the same time again. Doing Twilight quests while in waiting is boring, and watching all that time you wasted killing owls lead to a dungeon group dispersing five minutes in is just fucking ridiculous.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #222 on:** January 06, 2011, 02:50:18 AM »

I should have just done this shit with my guild. Instead I took my time leveling, then took forever to get qualified for heroics, then focused on learning the mechanics of a couple heroics etc. Been doing heroics for like a week and haven't seen a single tank drop. Nearly every time some dumbass dies, someone leaves the group. Was just in a group with a shaman who kept Chain Lightning and breaking CC jesus fuck

Or you get in the "hey we're doing an achievement run, don't kill boss until a,b,c" and of course that goes to hell, people leave etc. My guild only has like one geared tank, if I can get geared in time I can get into the main raid group. But this bullshit is too annoying for me to get motivated.

etiolate · « **Reply #223 on:** January 06, 2011, 03:16:26 AM »

I just did a heroic run with my guild. It was 3 of us Shamans and a mage in Tides. We had a pug tank is all(you could have tanked for us if you were on). The other enhance Shaman was doing like 12k dps easily. I was about half that on starter reg dungeon gear. Anyways, I only mention this to say we handled CC fine. Sheep and three hexes every pull lol. MW insta Hex is also handy for re-CCing while DPSing.

I did die once by standing in AOE. It wasn't so bad for never doing the heroic before. My DPS is always lower my first time in because I play overly cautious. Once I memorize a fight I can push without holding back.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #224 on:** January 06, 2011, 11:58:29 AM »

Nice cc. Must have had no problems on the first boss. We one shotted the second boss then got stuck on the third

Bloodwake · « **Reply #225 on:** January 06, 2011, 12:15:03 PM »

God, I started playing again.

Goodbye, life.

fistfulofmetal · « **Reply #226 on:** January 07, 2011, 12:20:44 PM »

Archaeology is really fun. probably my favorite thing to do in the game from what i found.

Disposable White Guy · « **Reply #227 on:** January 08, 2011, 06:34:24 PM »

Quote from: etiolate on January 05, 2011, 05:59:44 PM

Quote from: Disposable White Guy on January 05, 2011, 10:38:27 AM
Yup. If you find yourself dying constantly, then just read a little bit about the class you're playing either on the official forums, MMO Champion, or Elitest Jerks. They all have resources on what your stat values are, spell/ability priorities etc. The only things you can't really solo are dungeon quests as you get them.

For the love of God, do not read the official forums. Worse than GAF. Use MMo champ and maybe EJ, but EJ has less on how to play a class and more on how to optimize at the end. I'll tell you how to play if you want. I think i' have played every class to at least 60.

He couldn't just read the stickies or anything right?

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #228 on:** January 10, 2011, 01:56:06 AM »

Finally beat Tides. It's funny, the group wasn't the best I've been in, but it definitely had the best healer I've run across in a heroic (resto druid). We didn't do the third boss though, just skipped to the last one.

Still no tank drops.

tehjaybo · « **Reply #229 on:** January 12, 2011, 04:04:58 AM »

I still haven't been to Tides yet... (I haven't even found the entrance

)

I've been having problems with my guild rep. My guild just hit level 10, so I can get the BoA cloaks, but I haven't been gaining any guild rep for runs or quests. It's a bitch. I was talking to someone about it today, while in a guild run, and they said that it might have been because I was logged in when the dailies reset, that there's some kind of bug with the guild rep cap and resetting while you're online... I'm not sure, but I'm gonna log in and put in a GM ticket in a minute to try and see what the hell is going on.

Other than that, I hate heroics. They just aren't really fun to me. I'm enjoying just playing, though. I'm trying my hand at tanking and doing alright, 113k unbuffed in tank gear I think. I can tank normals, but not heroics. I rolled a worgen disc priest and I'm absolutely loving the hell out of it.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #230 on:** January 12, 2011, 05:19:39 AM »

Got into an awesome heroic group, owned Tides and BRC. Even with a good group there's gonna be wipes. Definitely feel like I've masted the bosses that initially gave me trouble there.

etiolate · « **Reply #231 on:** January 12, 2011, 05:29:52 AM »

I've done heroic Tides, SFK, Stonecore and Halls. The final Halls boss is healer intensive because of that giant aoe.

I did the heroic SFK with a LFD group and we managed to do the Bullet Time achievement. It was a good LFD group with a few people from Moon Guard.

fistfulofmetal · « **Reply #232 on:** January 12, 2011, 05:58:22 AM »

if you are doing archaeology and pick up stuff like troll tablets or dwarf runes (the description calls them archaeology keystones) dont just sell them to a vendor. on aggramar i've been selling them on the auction house for 50-60 gold a pop.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #233 on:** January 12, 2011, 07:39:27 PM »

Completely and utterly embarrassed myself on Ozruk in Stonecore. They brought in the main raid tank and made me dps lol. We're still wiping on it. Like 20 something so far

edit: beat it. God damn what a nightmare

etiolate · « **Reply #234 on:** January 12, 2011, 09:43:05 PM »

Were you having issues with running back to Ozruk? I was doing it with a War tanka nd every time he charged back to Ozruk, he'd randomly end up behind him and Ozruk would cast that rock attack that follows a straight path, leading to huge hits on the party. We only downed him once he stopped using charge and took the slower route back, and could then face him the proper direction.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #235 on:** January 13, 2011, 12:16:42 PM »

Nah, out of like 15 tries my Charge only led to him Ground Shocking the group twice. The problem was Paralyze/Shatter. I'd successfully get away multiple times, then I'd be Paralyzed for a second too long=killed by Shatter. Constantly got him down to 50%

I'm definitely going back tonight, that pissed me off lol

cubicle47b · « **Reply #236 on:** January 13, 2011, 01:47:55 PM »

Heroics become really easy after the first run. It's just a matter of learning how to deal with certain mechanics. Our first two heroics (3 days after launch) were BRC and Stonecore. Both took a good 3-4 hours to complete and I was a little worried at that point. The others felt much easier which was probably a mix of getting used to healing in Cata (I only healed one normal run and Crucible before the BRC run), gear, and actually being easier outside a couple bosses.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #237 on:** January 15, 2011, 03:07:40 PM »

Yea, they definitely get easier as you become more aware of shit. Like that first boss in Tides: the little whirlwinds that come from her during the second phase owned me often initially. I'd be so focused on interrupting chain lightning that I'd forget to move out the damn way. That fight is still tough simply due to group composition/skill, but I no longer struggle with it. Basically the heroics are: fuck up, you die.

Just did SFK which may be my favorite of the heroics so far. I never did it when it was a low level instance, although I did some holiday boss there once. Basically if your group can do the first boss, you can do the entire instance; if not gtfo. The main problem is that it's huge as hell. We only wiped once (on the third boss) so I dunno if there are any portals to save run back time. If not, ouch

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #238 on:** January 16, 2011, 12:51:35 AM »

2 shot Ozruk with a pug

I was worried initially because we had so much cc ( resto shaman, pally, mage, hunter) but were failing on trash; only one trash wipe, but the pally kept breaking cc, or someone would cc before the hunter etc. After our first wipe on Ozruk I told everyone to take some time and watch the how-to on youtube. Few minutes later we owned him, basically 4 manned considering the pally died to the first Shatter.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #239 on:** January 21, 2011, 04:45:33 AM »

Heroic Deadmines

Wow, the revamped old dungeons are better than the new ones. SFK is great, and Deadmines is epic. I love the fact that it's not a simple clone of the original version, instead offering some pretty fun boss mechanics and a couple interesting trash pulls. The last boss is so fun, from the gauntlet to the whole "swing from the boat before it explodes" shit. Oh man, I'm sure it'll result in some hilarious wipes in the future

Really the only problem with it is the same problem that plagues the rest of the heroics: too fucking long. I think the most heroics I've done in a day is two. I simply can't will myself to do heroic chains like I did during WoTLK. I'm gonna try to put some epic runs together this weekend; I want to be raid ready by early next week. But jeez, what a drive killer. I don't have as much time as I'd like to play during the week, so spending an hour and a half in 1 heroic isn't appealing.

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Author Topic: World of Warcraft: Cataclysm thread of real gamers (Read 17865 times)